Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Working Vessels => Topic started by: dmsywg on August 09, 2007, 03:58:01 am
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Finally got my AZIZ in the water last night and was surprised at how well it handles..
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Looking good. Nice finish on the paintwork. Well done
Cheers...Ken
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I'll second that............looks great 8) 8)
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both ships look great ;D
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Ok what motors has the yorkshire man got in her cheers Stavros
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They both look the biz in those pics !
Nice work :)
Shane
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Hi looks great dmsywg!
But it's not like a 'real Aziz' like Tug Kenny's:-
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4192.msg41729#msg41729 ::)
Sorry Ken, couldn't resist!
Martin ;D
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Looks great on the water and not in it ;D ;D ;D (I couldn't resist either Martin, sorry Ken ;D) It certainly is an impressive model and a credit to you.
Mark.
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I was going to say "did you fit a W.T.C. (water tight compartment) ,but after the last two comments on Kenny's Aziz i wont bother .
OOPS there i said it , sorry Ken.
daz
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go slow into the turns and dont toss it in reverse
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Looks like were all waiting for the" Kenny Special" Aziz turtle photo to appear (sorry ken) we would have a matching pair of Semi submersible subtugs then :o
nice build from the look of it, like Bigford says be gentle with her ;)
Jay
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looks good :) how long are your run times with her?
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I could only run it for arround 30 minutes as a storm was brewing and it was getting dark.
ALso I will have to make the rear deck semi permanent and put down a silicon seal since some water did get in. I have had to move esc's etc forward so that they are
under the main superstructure. I guess I could allways go slower BUT who wants that!
But boy does she look good through binoculars when you cant see the shore etc.,
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an idea, get 4 rudder horns and fit them through bolts with a spring, so when you want to place them in, you push, turn and release, they should hold the deck down, either that, or epoxy 4 nuts to a strip and use recessed bolts. with some thin draft seal around the edge of the gap. that way she should remain in place if she does roll. I use captive-nuts and m4 pins to hold down the top deck of the najade.
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Wonderful work 8)!
Congratulations on building both of them they look fab!
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I had to make some modifications to the rear deck due to a little water getting in.
I inserted 4 snap bolts but prior I laid down a silicon seal all round the edge of the deck, laid down some wax paper on top and then bolted down the deck.
SO i now have as great seal and water can run over the deck with no problem ( or so I hope). Will be sailing again this Wednesday if no rain..
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Hi guys
The Yorkshireman is mine.....Dave is responsible for the wonderful Aziz.....he's a new addition to our small club here in the wilds of Manitoba...and a welcome addition at that.....he is a very talented and keen builder and has been an inspiration to our small band.
Yorkshireman has done me yeoman service for 10 years.......she has a couple Buhler motors but don't ask me what kind....I just don't know. She's in need of a refit and repair but has been a great model. Not too speedy....nice scale speed.
Bob Russell
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A few pics from tonights sail .....
Yorksireman - Bob Russell
Aziz - Dave Smith
Sheffield (1/96 scratch build) - Colin Cassidy
Namao (Cdn Coast Guard ship) - Claude Rivard
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Good Job" on your Aziz Build looks good I also like the other boat too. I hope my Aziz comes out as good..
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How you have sealed rear deck? If you finished tug as per Model Slipway manual, hull must be full of water.
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See Tug Kennys build of his Aziz
stavros
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She looks a little low in picture 0124. How did it turn out? Any leaks?
Ken
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On Kenny's tug I can not see how is sealed rear deck. I am thinking to purchase this tug, but with out good idea how to seal it, I will buy something else. On the pictures hull is around one inch or less over water level, large opening in the deck is to dangerous.I have no any friends, who is skindiver
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Stavros. You thing, I have build "box" over rear deck? I thing, real Aziz looks different, because rear deck is flat, with out any box construction.
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212
I have sent you a Private Message.
FLJ
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FullLeatherJacket I didi not received from you mail with plan. Please mail it again, if possible. Tganks
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Regret I'm unable to send any attached files to you over the Forum; it's not designed to do that. I'll need your regular E-mail address, but you can send that to me in a Private Message.
FLJ
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Some pics of a Aziz in heavy weather (without sinking 8))
(http://www.marksevloot.nl/photo/DSC_1635.JPG)
And an other one
(http://www.marksevloot.nl/photo/DSC_1668.JPG)
And a last one
(http://www.marksevloot.nl/photo/DSC_1673.JPG)
More pics on this site (http://www.marksevloot.nl/holldiep.htm)
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Very impressive Adam, that should upset Ken, all those waves and it didn't sink.
Great photos.
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Yes, this is quite normal. Very buoyant ships. (if you batten down the hatches, which of course I forgot to do)
Great pictures Adam.
I hope to have some storm photo's soon.
Cheers...ken
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Great Boat and great pics...
Tell me thats not salty sea water????
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if it is, a good washdown, and shaft lube will be ok. I had Gemini in Salt water last year and no issues, all these fears, all i did when I got home, was pop the shaft, rince lube and put shaft back in. no such issues :)
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oh Adam, forgot to mention, try not to take waves beam-on, you're lucky NOT to roll her over ala bourbon dolphin,
awsome pics though!!
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Adam, very impressive pictures!! I'm glad I'm not the only one into this self destructive behavior! My own "stormy pics" suddenly seem a little lame in comparison, but then I guess my boat is half the size of yours. After checking out your link I wish I could be a member of your club, please show more of your fantastic action pictures in the future.
Hama
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How many galons of water you pumped out of hull after this voyage?
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That is Great shot of the Aziz going thou some great waves. Did it take on much water after that? I only ask because I to have a Aziz as well. But really that is a great job shooting both pictures.
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For all it's worth, its not mine Aziz, but from an other Dutch guy. ???
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Stavros,
I'm sorry but this is an unacceptable posting no matter how strong your feelings may be and do not show us in the friendly welcoming manner we wish to portray. If you have an issue with anyone it would be best if you could take it up with them off line.
Thank you
Bunkerbarge
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Blimey ::) consider yourself well & truly flamed
We actually try very hard to avoid that here
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I think there is a little bit of harsh comment about the Aziz.
Yes it has a very low back deck and you need to seal the large hatch to prevent water getting in. If you want a model of an AHSV, you gotta live with that. If you want to drive it like a speedboat then the bow wave will break over the rear deck. If the water is so rough that it is constantly taking water onot the rear deck then it will ship water. Nothing to do with poor design, everything to do with the laws of physics. If you want to drive it in rough waters either seal the deck or fit a bilge pump or live with the consequences.
It is a cracking model - good looking, challenging but not impossible for a moderately capable builder. If you sail it sensibly it will not ship water - be a bit more rash and it will ship water - but unless you have ballasted it stern low it can ship a hell of a lot before you even notice - I have emptied in excess of a litre out of mine without having noticed it was sitting low in the water.
Wom
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Agreed Wom,
It's OK saying 'the world is coming to and end' but if you do nothing about it, what's the point?!?! Lets keep any
criticism constructive or phrase them in the form of questions .... in that way we for our own part can make the
whole world of model boats just that little bit more friendly!
Martin :)
PS. 212 we may be doing you a great injustice here because of a suspected/apparent language barrier and the perceived critical tone may not be intended. But just be aware that many on-line translators can make friendly expressions sound very curt. :(
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Bunkerbarge sorry but you are so wrong in removing the post
212 why have you an issue with Model Slipway come on be a man and not a mouse come out with it spill the beans.
If you cant give a constructive critisism well simply go away
Stavros
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Well, I've just read through the whole thread again and basically there seems to have been just the one critical comment (possibly lost in translation) about Model Slipway's instructions which I think Wombat answered very well.
Sorry Stavros, but Bunkerbarge was quite right to edit your post. It was a classic "flamer" in full Technicolor and totally against the rules. There was no way it could be allowed to stand. I don't think that the single comment in 212's post implied a general issue with Model Slipway, he just didn't agree with the suggested method of fitting the aft deck hatch on one model. Has anyone got a copy of these instructions? Maybe Jackie would care to comment.
Much of the thread is taken up with the long standing ribbing of Tug Kenny for his efforts last year at Wicksteed and which, to his very great credit, he has taken in good part as being the friendly joshing it is.
Colin
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Have to agree with you Colin, there is really nothing in 212's comments to warrant so much abuse. It seems far too innocuous to be taken so personally, Im at a bit of a loss ???
Everyones opinion is valid, even if it isn't accurate :-\
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All it takes to ensure the hatch of the Aziz is locked and secure, is a lip under the front end, a spar on the hull towards the rear, with two screws going into the spar from the hatch, this is exactly how I have secured the hatch on Nord Icelandia, which has the same hull profile, and a hatch in the same place as Aziz.
thats if you want a flat top look. using Kenny's combing and container idea works just as well.
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I was planing to purchase model of Aziz. That is all. I was making research, what kind of kit is it. Because my calculation is showing me final price about 800 euros.After pictures, I can see on this page and on Internet, I will purchase some different kit. It is just my personal oppinion. Not bad language about quality of this kit. Sorry.
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I've seen several builds of this kit and it does make an outstanding model but like everything, the finish product depends on the modeller not the kit. A good kit just makes it easier to achieve a high quality model.
The Aziz is a low freeboard offshore type vessel and there are many pictures on 'tinternet' on such full size vessels becoming almost swapped, so with that in mind, the astute modeller would take adequate precautions in sealing the aft desk.... common sense really.
Don't 'just hope for the best'...... I used that many times and "hope" glue is crap! ;)
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212
The price for Aziz in Euros is not correct. Our online catalogue shows 401 euros for the kit and the most you will pay is 75 euros carriage to Slovakia, Poland etc. Please contact us for a quotation. For more details on the build of the model why not visit our website at www.modelslipway.com and click on Aziz Builds or look at the Kit Review.
As Martin correctly says a low freeboard OSV/AHTS means some water on deck.
Jackie
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Text removed pending Moderator investigation. Colin
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This is reason, why I will buy different tug boat, not AZIZ/Arif
Then why not just do it, eh? I spent half an hour doing that drawing for you and I'm not wasting any more time trying to help you.
I'm sure no-one else on this forum would blame me.
It strikes me that you never had any intention of buying this kit; you just wanted some platform to make mischief for Model Slipway.
If you want something complete, ready-built and unsinkable then might I suggest you go and buy an airbed? >:(
FLJ
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212,
How you choose to fit out the kit is up to you therefore you control the expense.
But if you buy another kit wont you have exactly the same expense?
The idea of a hobby IS that time is for free. You choose to use your time in this way.
As has been stated before if you don't want water on the after deck choose a hull with a higher freeboard, again that is your choice.
The reason Tug Kenny's sinking is amusing is that the kit is well founded and it is an extremely rare occurrence and of course Kenny took it in good heart.
How do I know, I was there when it happened.
In my opinion you might do a little more research into the type of vessel you want to build.
You do seem a rather inexperienced modeller to be making such sweeping statements about a kit you know very little of.
You happily ignore the plaudits of this company to continue with your view at all costs.
I hope you find a suitable model to make. Your comments about a submarine are not well received, as previously stated, those that have actually built the products from Model Slipway continue to praise the quality.
How you spend your money is of course up to yourself, but you do come across as a very uninformed, opinionated modeller and I hope you make a good choice of your next model.
Bob
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In reply to reply #50, I'll second that.
I've never found Jackie and Lawrie anything but helpful and honest and I've known them both for a long time.
If people want to insult others they should first ask themselves how perfect they are and then think again about making derogatory comments which are usually found to have no substance............ >>:-( >>:-(
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here is a couple pictures on hatch that i have put into my build last year. I will say this" I do not plane on putting my Boat 5 ft Waves O0
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One more time on hatch
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Sorry people trying to get you a better picture this the last time of hatch
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Looks like she's coming on great. Could you post larger pictures please (around 150K size) then we can expand them. ;)
Keep up the good work
ken
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will do kenny I will re-do photo again. and Thank you.
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Hi
Had problems with water ingress. Firstly I used 6 blind nuts 2 foreweard 2 rear and 2 mid deck Ithen put a bead of silicone arround the entire hatch then placed the deck on top of that screwed it down and let the silicon dry. It works pretty good apart from some leakage in rough weather.
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dms, is there a bulkhead part way up the boat?