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Title: Old model boating photos...
Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 22, 2016, 12:06:59 PM
 
                 This popped up on FaceBook,  what other old model boat related photos can we find?

(https://i.imgbox.com/xouIUN7O.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/xouIUN7O)

NB: I think that's SteamBoatPhil fifth from right!  %)
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Post by: unbuiltnautilus on November 22, 2016, 06:38:21 PM
There are some seriously stylish looking boats amongst all those hats :-)
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Post by: TheLongBuild on November 22, 2016, 06:43:41 PM
All of the boaters have dark suits, bar 1 who is a light coloured suit, was that the Equivalent of Martins shirts now !! {-)
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Post by: unbuiltnautilus on November 22, 2016, 06:50:35 PM
He does look a spud, so could be :}
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Post by: Stan on November 22, 2016, 06:54:48 PM
HI Martin I did not know Mayhem went that far back ha ha.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Post by: dave301bounty on November 22, 2016, 07:18:38 PM
Yes ,shows what and how they made some seriously good models ,I have a similar ,picked it up at car boot ,and it was solid ,those guys knew how to dress too .yes it is on a face book site with other boats ,mine included ...
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Post by: Nemo on November 22, 2016, 08:06:51 PM
1.A Canadian Club somewhere.
2. An armed guard?
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Post by: plastic on November 22, 2016, 08:17:58 PM
Good to have a proper dress code at the lake. No riff-raff allowed.
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Post by: Nemo on November 22, 2016, 08:53:19 PM
Col. Cholmondleigh-Worner (2nd left) sees to that! He is anticipating a compulsory pipe-smoking club-rule in the near future!
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Post by: tugnut on November 22, 2016, 09:28:11 PM
This one is from a lake in Wales i think its black park,the tug in the middle still runs now.
Here she is last year on our lake
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Post by: ballastanksian on November 22, 2016, 09:38:00 PM
Like the type 45s we see modelled today, those destroyers in the first image woud have been cutting edge technology represented then.

Amazing.
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Post by: dave301bounty on November 22, 2016, 10:21:48 PM
I am amazed at the skill some of you guys have , I myself will have to get a rocket up the place , have not done damn thing for ages , yet I have acquired boats ,,,something has to happen , perhaps it's the traveling ,traffic is no fun , I don't know ..
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Post by: ballastanksian on November 22, 2016, 10:26:03 PM
If you have a long commute for work then it will sadly take hours each day. A friend of mine lives in Somerset and communtes daily to London and so sets off at awful O'clock in the morning and if the trains are on time etc gets back at 8:30 in the evening so can understand why it is so hard for some people to find time amongst all the real life stuff to model and sail.

I expect some of these chaps in the period photos worked long long days.
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Post by: kinmel on November 22, 2016, 10:28:48 PM
I think this is the earliest surviving photo at Llandudno West Shore lake, taken in 1904
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Post by: tigertiger on November 23, 2016, 04:12:26 AM
I never realised that they used to call West Shore, Conway Shore.
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Post by: John W E on November 23, 2016, 05:10:29 PM
this one is of South Shields South Marine Park roughly about 1886 when the Club first began.

2nd picture is of the Club after a German mine was dropped on it in about 1942

3rd picture is just after the First World War I believe.

John
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Post by: kinmel on November 23, 2016, 07:14:11 PM
Colwyn Bay's original model boating lake was built in 1931 as part of the new Eirias Park, in 1985 that was buried under a carriageway of the new A55 bypass.

Our present lake was built as a replacement, still in the park.  This lake is to be lost now for a new housing estate and we are in the middle of moving to a much larger lake 150metres to the west.
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Post by: Nemo on November 23, 2016, 09:36:02 PM
 :-))
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Post by: Nemo on November 23, 2016, 10:14:00 PM
http://www.britishpathe.com/video/dry-land-sailors/query/model+boats+and+ships

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/model-boat-regatta-lner/query/model+boats+and+ships
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Post by: BrianB6 on November 24, 2016, 01:51:27 AM
Maybe not so old, only about 60 years ago.
My father (left) and Rod Burman talking electronics at Mortlake pond
Our first boat, in the photo, was a Wavemaster built on the kitchen table and first had a Bonds electric motor but probably an E.D. Racer 2.5 cc by the time the photo was taken.
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Post by: tigertiger on November 24, 2016, 02:16:25 AM
Colwyn Bay's original model boating lake was .....


...was where we used to go for a smoke during school lunch break. 8)
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Post by: Nemo on November 24, 2016, 10:20:47 PM
Now that is some keel!! I wonder what it weighed?
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Post by: BFSMP on November 25, 2016, 09:44:19 AM

Does anyone have any old photos of Sherringham lake [just up the road from Cromer.


I always found when sitting and watching the models sailing just how user friendly that lake was, as it was raised above ground level not needing for us old crocks to have to bend over to put a model in, not that I had a model too put in.


Would be nice to see some old photos of it, as I miss the old place.


Jim.
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Post by: Nemo on November 25, 2016, 12:17:50 PM
Old-ish Jim?  Wish we had some more like it today!
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Post by: TheLongBuild on November 25, 2016, 12:48:13 PM

.  This lake is to be lost now for a new housing estate and we are in the middle of moving to a much larger lake 150metres to the west.


Which no doubt in a few years will become an aldi or lidl
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Post by: BFSMP on November 25, 2016, 02:59:10 PM

Old-ish Jim?  Wish we had some more like it today!


Thank you Nemo.


Lovely view. Brings back happy memories.


Jim.
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Post by: Netleyned on November 25, 2016, 03:22:24 PM
Back in the day Jim, were you
tall enough to see over the top?


Ned

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Post by: BFSMP on November 25, 2016, 03:59:07 PM


Just about Ned, from about the age of 8....was always a tall lanky piece of string. <:(


Age dulls most things but sights of such simple pleasures stays with you a lifetime. :-))


But in middle age it was always nice in a summer to walk up there just for the views out to sea if there were no models sailing and eat ones lunch. beautiful views over the North Sea but one heck of a biting wind in the spring and autumn, with very little shelter unless in the building enclaves next to the lake.


Jim.
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Post by: Netleyned on November 25, 2016, 04:42:36 PM
Know what you mean about the wind Jim
Our launch and control position at the
lake faces East and nowt between us and
Siberia.
Gets darn cool at times.


Ned
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Post by: BFSMP on November 25, 2016, 05:14:09 PM

Know what you mean about the wind Jim
Our launch and control position at the
lake faces East and nowt between us and
Siberia.
Gets darn cool at times.


Ned


Thought I'd escape it moving over to the west coast, but the last two years have been as cold to me as ever on the east coast. Winds straight from the North Pole via the Irish Sea and over the Lakeland fells, lol. {:-{
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Post by: ballastanksian on November 25, 2016, 08:07:29 PM
I love those raised ponds and agree they look the best for launching and recovering.

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Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 25, 2016, 08:51:16 PM

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cMIc3dPtpPI/UH2YkLwtTzI/AAAAAAAAJuM/rP_hfxRh2mA/s1600/6041546264_092c0389db_b.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vO1YAu9mDJQ/UH2Yimk3rKI/AAAAAAAAJuE/BlIlku_-XTM/s640/6040997455_0617e164d2_b.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-immZyjHx3rM/UH2YhnNW09I/AAAAAAAAJt8/LAfQBrGPQd4/s640/6025487862_cc2381be7b_b.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6aDAjbTjqJs/UH2YcDC24AI/AAAAAAAAJtk/Izm_nQ-dtfA/s1600/34078_1JP2-wi-he-re1-x0-y0-sw-sh-ro-final.jpg)

http://www.sweetjuniperinspiration.com/2012/10/a-brief-history-of-belle-isle-model.html
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Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 25, 2016, 09:00:40 PM
 
various from Google....

(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6118/6227297096_e128936f5c.jpg)

(http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/902fe609539948e08b2e225fc12759a0/prince-chula-playing-with-three-children-and-a-model-of-an-ocean-liner-f0b34p.jpg)

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_mQ_A5rrcjMSEBBK9s0z-LkY4CRrK4j2dGuGKb_YXvjNAjl5Y)

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRm-y9QOZKVHUsA7Cs-Cj74dQgHJPTzxAPCVdozavnG_2UWIHaB)
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Post by: grendel on November 26, 2016, 06:51:24 AM
If you have a long commute for work then it will sadly take hours each day. A friend of mine lives in Somerset and communtes daily to London and so sets off at awful O'clock in the morning and if the trains are on time etc gets back at 8:30 in the evening so can understand why it is so hard for some people to find time amongst all the real life stuff to model and sail.

I expect some of these chaps in the period photos worked long long days.
I leave for work at 6.30am, and get home about 7pm, yet in just over 3 months I have got half way through planking up my hull, the trick is 10-30 minutes per day, every day, even if it is just fitting 1 rib, a little every day gets there eventually, so even working long hours it is possible.
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Post by: roycv on November 26, 2016, 08:37:31 AM
Hi all, I agree little and often.  I built one model by getting up an hour earlier, during the summer, and because I had to stop at a fixed time, to go to work it made you get on with it.
regards Roy
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Post by: JayDee on November 26, 2016, 11:57:03 AM
Hello,

Photo of the Boating Lake at Southport, long since gone from the Park!.
This is where I spent many, many happy hours sailing my "Star" yacht.
Set the sails, push off and run round to the other side of the Lake to catch the boat !!.
Good fun and plenty of exercise !!.

John.
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Post by: lakesidebob on November 26, 2016, 12:57:16 PM
These old photographs are just wonderful,what a great topic!....Lakeside Bob
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Post by: BFSMP on November 26, 2016, 01:06:53 PM


These old photographs are just wonderful,what a great topic!....Lakeside Bob


The only thing missing from them all is "sound".


The sound of the steam and diesel engines and the chattering of the children and adults as they happily enjoy themselves in a lovely calming none aggressive hobby.


But we can imagine such things.


And I wonder what happened to some of those beautiful steamers. Surely they all didn't get lost in the sands of time.


Jim.
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Post by: Netleyned on November 26, 2016, 01:20:33 PM
The good old days when weed was kept at bay
by the pollution of ic engine oil and fuel.
Now the greenies have sanitized everything
the weed has a perfect habitat  >>:-(
and the duck/goose/swan poo
Is a grand fertilizer.


Ned
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Post by: JimG on November 26, 2016, 01:34:05 PM
Some old pictures from our club ponds at Dundee. Mostly yachts at this time with a few free sailing steamers. The pond is virtually unchanged although there are more houses around it.

Jim
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Post by: JimG on November 26, 2016, 01:37:25 PM
Some more recent photos. The marblehead and fast electric were sailed across the Tay From Tayport for the club centenary.

Jim
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Post by: BFSMP on November 26, 2016, 01:59:24 PM

The swans were a problem even then lol, and were those 3 guys wearing their kapok life preservers the ones who had sailed across the Tay, or just overly cautious at the pond size.


If the latter, I thought the members at Fleetwood were a rough boisterous lot, but never seen anyone wearing one of those, even in the rescue boat at a regatta, {-) %%


Jim.
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Post by: Nemo on November 26, 2016, 03:07:29 PM
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Post by: Vintage on November 26, 2016, 06:02:45 PM

Great thread and good to see so many who're interested in the early models  :-))

... I spent many, many happy hours sailing my "Star" yacht.
Set the sails, push off and run round to the other side of the Lake to catch the boat !!.
Good fun and plenty of exercise !!.

John.

Same here except I used to sail mine at Kearsney Abbey near Dover.

I've always been fascinated by Star Yachts and have started putting something together that documents the history of the company - "The History of Star Yachts of Birkenhead." (http://www.vintagepondyachts.co.uk/star-yachts-birkenhead)

Here's an early image showing the Star Yacht stand at the 3rd World Scout Jamboree, held in Arrowe Park, in 1929.

Mark

(http://www.vintagepondyachts.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/star_yachts_1929_exhibition.jpg)
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Post by: Colin Bishop on November 26, 2016, 06:40:43 PM
No R/C or modern gubbins but they had some really nice boats in those days and I bet they enjoyed themselves every much, if not more, than we do.

Colin
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Post by: BFSMP on November 26, 2016, 07:12:16 PM

there used to be a little old toy and model shop on a back street in Cromer where I lived, the same street in fact that our most famous resident Henry Blogg used to live, and they sold the full Star Range for many years.


Always looked good sat in the window for all to see.


Jim.
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Post by: JimG on November 26, 2016, 09:47:38 PM
The swans were a problem even then lol, and were those 3 guys wearing their kapok life preservers the ones who had sailed across the Tay, or just overly cautious at the pond size.


If the latter, I thought the members at Fleetwood were a rough boisterous lot, but never seen anyone wearing one of those, even in the rescue boat at a regatta, {-) %%


Jim.
That was the rig of the day for the cross Tay event. Provided by the RNR who provided the boat for us on the day. Not normally needed for the pondside although we have had a few members falling in over the years.
A good bit of fun sailing the marblehead through the middle of full size yachts from the Royal Tay Yacht Club. At one point our skipper was heard shouting at a full size yacht "If you don't get out of the way i'm going to ram you". Don't mess with the Navy even the part timers.

Jim

P.S. the swans rarely cause any problems, they are so used to the models they have even swam right through the middle of a fast electric race. :}
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Post by: verithingeoff on November 27, 2016, 12:38:17 AM
Here's the model yacht pond in Woodbridge, Suffolk, I used to live closeby and sailed small boats with my son on the pond. I believe it's been totally refurbished and in good use today (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j183/gwa_2006/Avatars%20etc/ozzhatcorks.gif) (http://s80.photobucket.com/user/gwa_2006/media/Avatars%20etc/ozzhatcorks.gif.html)

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Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 27, 2016, 01:04:20 AM
 
London in the 1920's-Whitestone Pond

(https://i.imgbox.com/q2UiPUUf.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/q2UiPUUf)
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Post by: BrianB6 on November 27, 2016, 04:27:36 AM
Ah! Yes. The Whitestone Pond.  An aunt of mine lived near there and I sailed the Wavemaster in an earlier post there as well as toboganning on the Heath.
Also sailed on the Round Pond in Kensington Gardens for a number of years.
This thread is bringing back the memories.  :embarrassed:
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Post by: tigertiger on November 27, 2016, 06:06:34 AM

Wow! I had only ever seen the Star Yachts with Bermuda rig (2 sails) before. I never realized they did multi sail gaffers and a 'J'class as well.





(http://www.vintagepondyachts.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/star_yachts_1929_exhibition.jpg)
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Post by: Nemo on November 27, 2016, 09:40:23 PM
 {-)
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Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 27, 2016, 09:46:02 PM
 
SteamBoatPhil again, on the left!
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Post by: Nemo on November 27, 2016, 10:23:44 PM
Their pride and joys no doubt! :-))

(Greg -'I think I will call her Pequod!') {-)
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Post by: Nemo on November 27, 2016, 10:24:42 PM
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Post by: plastic on November 28, 2016, 07:21:39 AM
Nice to see the old places with no vandalism, graffiti or litter.
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Post by: BFSMP on November 28, 2016, 09:03:19 AM

Nice to see the old places with no vandalism, graffiti or litter.


In those days Vandals were a race of warriors you read about in history books that stormed their way around the western Mediterranean and graffiti probably the name of an icecream seller, and litter was always put in a bin. {-)


Jim.
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Post by: verithingeoff on November 28, 2016, 09:18:35 AM
The pond in Beaumaris, alongside the pier. Has been renovated and is still in use [/size](http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j183/gwa_2006/Avatars%20etc/ozzhatcorks.gif) (http://s80.photobucket.com/user/gwa_2006/media/Avatars%20etc/ozzhatcorks.gif.html)

[/size]Mom and son on a typical summers day ok2
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag473/geoff122/Model%20Steam/Stuart%20Turner/4618934837_zps84hgx9j9.jpg) (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/geoff122/media/Model%20Steam/Stuart%20Turner/4618934837_zps84hgx9j9.jpg.html)

[/size]From about 1955

(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag473/geoff122/Model%20Steam/Stuart%20Turner/4618934967_zpseqozgvok.jpg) (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/geoff122/media/Model%20Steam/Stuart%20Turner/4618934967_zpseqozgvok.jpg.html)
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Post by: verithingeoff on November 28, 2016, 09:24:50 AM
A tidal seawater pool at Weston Super Mare (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j183/gwa_2006/Avatars%20etc/ozzhatcorks.gif) (http://s80.photobucket.com/user/gwa_2006/media/Avatars%20etc/ozzhatcorks.gif.html)(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag473/geoff122/Model%20Steam/Stuart%20Turner/_57_zpssdznhzz8.jpg) (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/geoff122/media/Model%20Steam/Stuart%20Turner/_57_zpssdznhzz8.jpg.html)
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Post by: Nemo on November 28, 2016, 11:32:16 AM
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Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 28, 2016, 11:50:12 AM
 
Now That's a regatta!    :o
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Post by: BFSMP on November 28, 2016, 12:44:49 PM

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best part of my week these days is going to Fleetwood lake, and watching the impossibilities of the number of collisions of the weekly sailing competition of the "scale" yachtsmen. Enough merriment to last the full week, the number of crashes they have during an afternoon, and they are all radio controlled and regular sailors.


I can imagine the carnage that would transpire if all those yachts were put on the lake together.


A true gem of a photo.


Jim.
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Post by: roycv on November 28, 2016, 01:15:16 PM
I beieve at sea they have 'radar assisted collisions'  we have radio controlled assisted collisions.
regards Roy
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Post by: Nemo on November 28, 2016, 07:09:29 PM
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Post by: Nemo on November 28, 2016, 07:29:27 PM
Highgate Model Yacht Club 1854
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Post by: ballastanksian on November 28, 2016, 09:17:28 PM
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That last photo with all that electronic equipment probably to operate one servo equivalent? We don't know we live these days with our multi channel digital systems. Thanks the lord! I bet his equipment either cost a packet or took many many evenings of soldering and wiring to make.
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Post by: Nemo on November 29, 2016, 12:12:20 PM
More man-toys.

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Post by: Arrow5 on November 29, 2016, 12:28:15 PM
Lets all chip in and buy Phil  a bowler hat  ;)
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Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 29, 2016, 01:02:20 PM
 
"As an island race, interest in boats & their models is an integral part of our heritage. Regattas were being held on the Serpentine from the 18th century."

(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54f4dd85e4b0c8f53fe0d7e0/56a637f81f40397dbaffd1e8/56a637fa69a91a8ab614853e/1453733882566/Untitled6.jpg)
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Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 29, 2016, 01:07:14 PM
 
Bethnal green?!

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a1/26/70/a12670f90339740427aa9f301ff9cf71.jpg)
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Post by: Nemo on November 29, 2016, 07:34:46 PM
Poles at the ready!    Duthie Park, Aberdeen, dates unknown.
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Post by: Buccaneer on November 29, 2016, 07:46:58 PM
I think that's my brother and I on the beach at Weston Super Mare!! we were about 10.
John
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Post by: Nemo on November 29, 2016, 07:51:37 PM
Felixstowe 1910
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Post by: Nemo on November 29, 2016, 07:53:46 PM
1. Clacton 1946
2. Edinburgh - maybe St Margarets Loch.
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Post by: Nemo on November 29, 2016, 08:02:35 PM

Bethnal green?!
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a1/26/70/a12670f90339740427aa9f301ff9cf71.jpg)

Yes, it could be Victoria Park Martin. The two natty gents in bowlers with pipes and raincoats were keen racers here for many years - long before this photo was taken.
Bob.
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Post by: Seacommander on November 30, 2016, 06:26:52 PM

What a fantastic thread !!

I so much enjoy seeing the older models, as said by others there are some lovely boats in the pic's

Thanks for listing

Cheers

Mark
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Post by: kinmel on November 30, 2016, 06:37:26 PM
Selling, or hiring out yachts in Paris
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Post by: John W E on November 30, 2016, 06:58:19 PM
Paddy Freeman's Newcastle upon Tyne

Yep - its a steam driven air boat (the last 2 pics)

John

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Post by: derekwarner on November 30, 2016, 08:46:46 PM
Those last two images are enlightening bluebird ...I am sure her steerage could have been a little tender  :o at speed with her high  G of G 

It just reproves that model engineering was certainly taken to extreme levels years ago........ and makes our current hi powered brushless drives with quasi battery power a little tame ;) .....

Derek
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Post by: ballastanksian on November 30, 2016, 09:25:21 PM
It looks pleasingly steam punk with all the linkages and tidy little funnel.
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Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 30, 2016, 09:48:15 PM
It looks pleasingly steam punk with all the linkages and tidy little funnel.

                   O0
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Post by: roycv on December 01, 2016, 08:57:43 AM
Hi Nemo thank you very much for the photo of the Clacton model boating pond.  It brought back many happy holiday memories of sailing model boats in the late 40's and very early 50's.
regards Roy
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Post by: Nemo on December 01, 2016, 08:22:27 PM
Nice to hear that Roy - I hoped it might 'ring a bell' with someone. :-))
Bob.
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Post by: Nemo on December 01, 2016, 08:57:38 PM
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Post by: Nemo on December 01, 2016, 09:01:21 PM
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Post by: derekwarner on December 01, 2016, 09:08:53 PM
Gentleman.......Start your Engines..... {-)

Nemo....that last image is beautiful, however I suspect that chap near the centre of image with the barge  type hydroplane craft may have an unfair advantage  <*<

Derek
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Post by: John W E on December 02, 2016, 05:19:54 PM
hi there

whilst searching on the web for photographs of Mr Bob Kirtley's hydroplane Pisces II - in the early days - doing the tethered run - up to 120 mph - at The Northern Lakes, I cam across these 2 hydroplanes but no luck as yet for Bob's
john
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Post by: John W E on December 02, 2016, 05:29:52 PM
the only image I can find of Bob's hydro is a recent one :-)

Title: Re: Old model boating photos...
Post by: Vintage on December 02, 2016, 06:12:06 PM
What a fabulous thread - hadn't realized that there were so many who're interested in the vintage models...

Talking of hydros, here's an image from the Model Engineer circa 1934 (I think) showing members of the "Wicksteed Club Team".

A couple of years ago I managed to find a couple of early hydroplanes, on a well known auction site, and they're the 4th and 5th from the left in this image. They were both owned and raced by a Mr H R Perkins and the identification was easy as he raced under the number "W13" with a boat called "JEP" (it's the 4th boat).

I'll post some photos of the actual boats when I get a chance over the weekend.

Mark

(http://www.vintagepondyachts.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/wicksteed_hydros_1934.jpg)
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Post by: ballastanksian on December 02, 2016, 06:21:33 PM
It is good to know that some of the old models still exist and are cherished. Mind you some do come up on auction sites in a right state, but all the same it is obvious that many managed to escape the skip or bonfire.
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Post by: Vintage on December 04, 2016, 12:33:03 PM
It is good to know that some of the old models still exist and are cherished. Mind you some do come up on auction sites in a right state, but all the same it is obvious that many managed to escape the skip or bonfire.

They certainly are sought after and cherished nowadays but, you're right, it's sad to think of all those that might have been consigned to the skip or bonfire...

Personally I think it's great when you can discover the provenance of such models, here are a couple of shots of the 5th hydro from the left in the above image.

Mark

(http://www.vintagepondyachts.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/vintage_model_hydroplane_1.jpg) (http://www.vintagepondyachts.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/vintage_model_hydroplane_2.jpg)
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Post by: Nemo on December 04, 2016, 02:50:36 PM
Good for you! Models well worth keeping and restoring.  :-))
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Post by: Grumpy Dave on December 06, 2016, 08:30:22 PM
Re Colwyn Bay lake. Is that the Wireless College in the background? I can't see the aerial mast. or was this pre electricity time. I was there in 1960.
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Post by: kinmel on December 06, 2016, 10:05:32 PM
Re Colwyn Bay lake. Is that the Wireless College in the background? I can't see the aerial mast. or was this pre electricity time. I was there in 1960.

That photo pre-dates the time when the Wireless College had that building, a mast is visible in this later photo taken near the lake and a different mast is shown at the top of their Facebook page....  www.facebook.com/wirelesscollege/ 
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Post by: Grumpy Dave on December 06, 2016, 10:34:59 PM
Cheers Kinmel. When I left in '62 I lost touch. I never got a ticket I couldn't get past 14WPM reading morse. When I get some more time I will go through it properly. Dave.
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Post by: steamboatmodel on December 11, 2016, 12:27:57 AM

Cheers Kinmel. When I left in '62 I lost touch. I never got a ticket I couldn't get past 14WPM reading morse. When I get some more time I will go through it properly. Dave.
The 14 WPM test was always a big hurtle. I think it was only 12 over here send and receive I could do 16 in a practice session, but as soon as you said TEST I chocked and could never pass the mark. I understand they now have a technician's test that does not require Morse.
Regards,
Gerald.
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Post by: John W E on December 11, 2016, 01:18:39 PM
More old model boating photos here.


http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,44056.msg445969.html#msg445969

john
Title: Re: Old model boating photos...
Post by: Grumpy Dave on December 11, 2016, 05:42:02 PM
The PMG ticket was 24wpm. At which speed you were hearing words rather than letters. I never did.
Title: Re: Old model boating photos...
Post by: Nemo on December 11, 2016, 08:00:05 PM
More old model boating photos hear
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,44056.msg445969.html#msg445969
john

A great selection of wonderful models for their day. What they could have done with  R/C! :-))
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Post by: Nemo on December 12, 2016, 08:44:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd2gjH3Qlwo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLSz_6oi-o0

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Post by: JayDee on December 12, 2016, 09:23:28 PM
Hello,

I noticed the ages of the guys with the boats - - just the same as now !!!!.

John.
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Post by: John W E on December 20, 2016, 08:57:16 AM
Hi 2 more from the South Shields model club
john
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Post by: Netleyned on December 20, 2016, 09:20:09 AM
Great Photos :-))


I would like to see more of the Daring class Destroyer if it is one.


Ned
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Post by: John W E on December 20, 2016, 03:56:45 PM
Hi Ned

it's a case of the pics were from a friend of a friend of a friend :-)

We need to do a little bit more research and asking as I want more information on George V tug as well.   To cut a long story short saw George V tug on the lake when I was a junior member of the Club (I was wearing short trousers them days ).    She was the first model I had set my eyes on with working lights and she is also steam powered.   The other thing to notice is, have a look at the last picture and you will see what looks to be a steam yacht - but if you look at the rudder & prop its either a Kort Nozzle or a Becker Rudder.   See if you can make it out.

Obviously we will try and get more pictures from this source.

John

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Post by: Netleyned on December 20, 2016, 04:15:05 PM
Think that might be a type of Kitchen
Gear as used on Admiralty workboats.
The prop speed is constant and speed/
ahead/astern is done by rotating the
two Buckets around the prop.
Ned


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Post by: Colin Bishop on December 20, 2016, 04:18:45 PM
Agree with Ned, more likely to be a Kitchen rudder of some type although it looks more like a hemisphere the way it is deployed. I imagine that the boat was steam powered and the engine not reversible.

Colin
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Post by: John W E on December 20, 2016, 04:36:46 PM
a Kitchener Rudder - yes I am definitely going to Specsavers - I put Bekker to make sure you were all asleep hahah :-)

Merry Christmas  %%
Title: Re: Old model boating photos...
Post by: Netleyned on December 20, 2016, 04:44:20 PM
Kitchen's Patent Reversing Rudder  :-))
Nowt to do with Lord Kitchener  8)


Ned
Title: Re: Old model boating photos...
Post by: Colin Bishop on December 20, 2016, 04:44:29 PM
Kitchen, KITCHEN John! Kitchener went down on HMS Hampshire with or without his rudder.

Colin
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Post by: John W E on December 20, 2016, 04:58:46 PM
good Lord ere I am going to go and do some modelling - I cant get anything right today :-) even the Mrs has had to fix the Christmas lights  %% %% %%

John
Title: Re: Old model boating photos...
Post by: Colin Bishop on December 20, 2016, 05:07:49 PM
Sounds like that is the very last thing you should do John. Find a dark room and just lie down until the situation improves.  :o

Colin
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Post by: Martin [Admin] on January 31, 2017, 04:10:37 PM

YouTube:
Vintage Model Yachting Post World War II   -  https://youtu.be/P98YcDCv214
Title: Re: Old model boating photos...
Post by: Martin [Admin] on March 23, 2018, 01:54:43 AM
 
(http://modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2018/03/23/29425922_1771331182905773_4279804004155785216_n.jpg) (http://modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/image/BMjkf)
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Post by: TheLongBuild on March 23, 2018, 07:23:30 AM




Used to be a shop just like the picture just out of Chester .
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Post by: Grumpy Dave on March 23, 2018, 08:51:36 AM
On the gyratory junction of Christleton Rd and Tarvin Rd a fantastic model shop. I believe it closed because it kept getting broken into and the council said the security shutters made it look nasty, so he had to take them down. So he closed. IIRC. Another opened further down Tarvin Rd by the canal but was not open for long.
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Post by: tigertiger on March 23, 2018, 09:21:51 AM
I remember being able to buy my Airfix, Revell, Humbrol paints, and other bits in Woolworths back in the very late 60s to early 70s.
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Post by: dougal99 on March 23, 2018, 12:34:09 PM
I remember buying paints in Woolies in the early sixties; 3 at 10d each making 2/6. The girl had to add it up on the till.  <:(
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Post by: ballastanksian on March 23, 2018, 09:42:50 PM

Too early for me, but I remember Martlets toys and models in Chichester having separate shops across the street from each other; one selling toys and the other selling model paraphernalia. My Dad bought our Keilkraft Triton kit there and I remember choosing the red and blue Humbrol paints and an Airfix Blac for the roof. Back in 1982?

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Post by: tr7v8 on March 24, 2018, 09:45:25 PM
This picture sits on the mantlepiece. My late father & my brother, I'm on the very left hand side. The model is Vic Smeeds Sea Kitten from the 1957 Model Maker. Taken at Teignmouth Devon sea front model boat pond. Around 1965 I'd guess. The model reskinned & repainted still exists.
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Post by: TheLongBuild on March 25, 2018, 10:29:18 AM

On the gyratory junction of Christleton Rd and Tarvin Rd a fantastic model shop. I believe it closed because it kept getting broken into and the council said the security shutters made it look nasty, so he had to take them down. So he closed. IIRC. Another opened further down Tarvin Rd by the canal but was not open for long.


That was the one, great Aladdin's cave, never impressed with the other one you mentioned.
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Post by: Grumpy Dave on March 25, 2018, 12:57:36 PM
Nice people but didn't last long as I remember.
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Post by: SteamboatPhil on March 25, 2018, 01:34:45 PM
The Blackheath Model Power Boat Club 1929, my Grandfather is 3 rd from the left and my great uncle is 4th from the right, they were the founding members.......oh and the little lad isn't me  <*<  (I was taking the picture  {-) )
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Post by: SteamboatPhil on March 25, 2018, 01:41:35 PM
Radi control comes to Blackheath early 1950's
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Post by: SteamboatPhil on March 28, 2018, 07:48:54 PM
Another one from the 1950's at Blackheath, my dad is in the tee shirt looking into the steam boat.
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Post by: Vintage on March 28, 2018, 07:56:19 PM
Fabulous images Phil  :-))

I don't suppose you have any period images showing a Bassett Lowke "Streamlinia"?

It seemed to be a popular boat at the time, so I'd imagine that there were a fair few about...

I'm currently restoring one.

Mark.
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Post by: roycv on March 28, 2018, 08:06:43 PM
Hi Vintage, those steam boats in the picture above went along at a fair old speed.  The Streamlinia crawled along on steam, nothing like the publicity shots at the time.  I think it was a minimum size for Straight Running and would have drifted off course long before completing a run.
I made my own one in 1988 and even with a home built steam plant it did not really go that well.  I went electric in the end, she got up and planed nicely.  Sold it on last year as I was not really using her.
Will you be going to the Toy Boat regatta at the North London club based at Colney Heath, between Watford and Hatfield?  There was a Streamlinia in steam there last year.
regards Roy
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Post by: Vintage on March 28, 2018, 08:30:25 PM
Hi Vintage, those steam boats in the picture above went along at a fair old speed.

Didn't they just  :-))

I have several old hydroplanes and they flew back in the day...

I acknowledge that the Streamlinia is always going to be slow but they're a beautiful boat and I've lusted after one for years.

Will you be going to the Toy Boat regatta at the North London club based at Colney Heath, between Watford and Hatfield?  There was a Streamlinia in steam there last year.
regards Roy

I am hoping to be if I can find the time to finish the boat, just lots on at the moment but fingers crossed.

Mark
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Post by: roycv on March 28, 2018, 08:48:35 PM
Hi Vintage, I built my Streamlinia from a copy of plans in the Hobbies annual 1937.  When you use a ruler over the plans it is so simple in design.  All in inches, don't know why we ever went metric!  I did make a change and that was the hollow in the bow section, which I thought kept the boat down in the water, my one is frames with 1/16th inch ply covering and the convex curve was much easier to deal with.  I did add in a spray rail as well.
But I do agree she looks good in or out of the water.  I also made my own Bowmans copy of Sea Jay.  That has an old B.L motor in it.
regards Roy
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Post by: SteamboatPhil on March 28, 2018, 08:53:42 PM
This is how a steam boat should go  O0
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Post by: Martin [Admin] on March 29, 2019, 05:48:51 AM
 
Found these on Facebook...
https://www.facebook.com/HeatonModelBoats/photos/pcb.1894259760685550/1894259020685624/?type=3&theater


(https://i.ibb.co/d2t7W4t/54728883-1894259027352290-5852025638109577216-o.jpg)
Heaton & District Model Power Boat Club founders, pictured in 1910




(https://i.ibb.co/vBfKqRM/53308985-1894259400685586-1409229536331038720-o.jpg)
The last remaining founder members pictured in 1960 at the club's golden jubilee regatta




(https://i.ibb.co/Y0ndCPS/55576216-1894259470685579-5168020184614567936-o.jpg)
The launching of the "SS Emily in 1932



(https://i.ibb.co/yS1hzLF/54728564-1894259424018917-8444865401493389312-o.jpg)
John Robert Humpish with his newly launched steamship, the "ASH" in 1957






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Post by: SteamboatPhil on March 30, 2019, 08:00:07 PM
I have in my collection a late Jack Humpish hull with original steam plant, all the boats from era tended to have the same style hull design and were very long (the one I have is 6ft)
Its awaiting for me to restore it, but there are a couple of other projects ahead of it. I will post a couple of pics soon.
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Post by: Martin [Admin] on April 01, 2019, 07:08:13 PM

More from Heaton...


(https://i.ibb.co/TRbC1n6/55548577-1902611186517074-7364442274828124160-o.jpg)
A very early picture of the club boats by the lake in 1911. All the early boats were steam powered and small enough to be carried on the "tram" by their owners, this being before the building of the boathouse in the 1920's.



(https://i.ibb.co/xsHdw7v/55698717-1902611199850406-176516524436094976-o.jpg)
A Northeast Coast Regatta at Paddy Freeman's lake in the 1950's. The boat sailing is from the South Shields club



(https://i.ibb.co/Dz0kRXC/55613111-1902611209850405-9117261992179007488-o.jpg)
Club members outside the new boathouse on the late 1920's



(https://i.ibb.co/SKL2j5N/55857687-1902610929850433-4351916599544905728-o.jpg)
Regatta at Sunderland lake in the 1950's with Heaton and Sunderland club members in the water.