Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: U-33 on January 31, 2017, 04:52:16 pm
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The good lady reminded me that it was a year ago (give or take a day or so) I gave up smoking...haven't touched one, or wanted one, in all that time.
Well pleased with myself... ;D
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August 14 at 7.30 a.m. 2014 - sticks well in my mind
I was at my computer - almighty pain - turned around - rushed off to hospital - and remember the Doctor saying to me - you have to turn on your side - and I will always recall the excruciating pain as the medics inserted - what looked like a welding rod - through my ribcage. That is all I remember until the next morning - woke up black and blue from my armpit to my hip on my right hand side. Pipes and bits were hanging from me - also a box type of thing attached to me that was bubbling away while I was trying to breach - collapsed lung. When I recovered and they came to remove all the pipes etc I asked for the pipe that was inserted through me - this serves as a reminder every time I want a cigarette. I look at this jar with the pipe in it - and this will remind me of the pain and are cigarettes worth it.
Here you go all - if you want to PACK IN SMOKING and want something to help you along the way - HAVE A LOOK - nobody enjoyed a ciggy more than I did.
Breathing is a lot more enjoyable by the way :-)
John
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Seeing your photo Bluebird reminds me of a similar thing they showed me when I went to a smoking sessation clinic at my local surgery. Put me off smoking and haven't touched one since, that was 5 years ago. I have taken to electric fags now so I get my nicotine kick that way, and it's has saved me a fortune (about £6 a day), means I can buy more boats.
Martin
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Wow now that's a stark reminder to keep you on the straight and narrow.
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The good lady reminded me that it was a year ago (give or take a day or so) I gave up smoking...haven't touched one, or wanted one, in all that time.
Well pleased with myself... ;D
Congratulations and well done rich. I hope you feel much better for doing so.
Jim.
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I sure do, Jim...my COPD hasn't really changed, but my pocket money has increased ;)
My home smells better, cuddle ratio has increased ten fold ;D well worth doing! :-))
(I should add that I do still use an e-cig, along the lines of a 'comfort blanket')
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Useful fact #2 cigarettes cost about £24 in Australia for 20, graphic disease pictures on packet. Price them out of existence in UK I say.
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It's funny, the smell of cigarette smoke and/or smokers never bothered me in the past, but since giving up I can smell the merest whiff a mile off, it almost makes me pysically sick.
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cigarette smoke and/or smokers never bothered me in the past, but since giving up I can smell the merest whiff a mile off, it almost makes me pysically sick.
I am the same after packing them in 29 years ago.
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Yes, in OZ.....
Current cost is about $1.00 per cigarette = $30.00 per day for the average puffer = $10,950.00 per year >>:-(
The alternative = $0.169 per day on Government Prescription Nicobate type patches = a 3 months set cost $15.90 :-))
Gave up the habit 20 something years ago O0......
Wasn't it Sir Francis Drake <*< that introduced tobacco to Europe after one of his voyages to the Americas?
Derek
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I thought it was Sir Walter Raleigh and that his housekeeper threw a bucket of water over him thinking he was on fire
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:-))...yes 100% correct BrianB6...I could visualise the scene from the movie where the smoker was in his big chair in the ships great room & the bucket of water was thrown from afar.....however certainly got the name mixed :embarrassed:
Derek
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It's strange, but when I had my second (and almost fatal) heart attack, the surgeon told me that if I didn't quit, the next time he saw me would be at my graveside. That was in 2008...I carried on smoking for another eight years! Why did I do that? Stubborness, maybe? Lord only knows...
I had my first cigarette at the tender age of nine...yes, 9. My father got his baccy tin out, rolled me a smoke, and said "eeyar boi...." and that was it. What with fifty years plus of inhaling tobacco smoke, diesel fumes, road dust, sh*t and cr*p from forty years plus of trucking, I consider myself lucky to be still alive...
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It's been 5 years for me and most of the time I feel the better for it. Over 50 years I smoked, mostly non filtered. My bank account certainly feels healthier.
Tom
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Well ....some 60 years ago, my Grandfather & I would walk about 1/2 a mile to the grounds of South Bulli Colliery with a push wheel barrow & spade.....we collected the horse manure [courtesy of the Pit Ponies] .....this was destined for Pa's rose bush garden......
Pa was not allowed to smoke at home, but hid two small metal tins hidden under the house where the wheel barrow was stored.......when at the Colliery fields, Pa would make a rollie & give me a puff
I thought he was the greatest.......Nanna would chastise him <*<...when we got back home as she could smell tobacco smoke on his clothes..... {-)
Derek
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My late Dad was taught to smoke in the army during WW2 and after 44 years decided he needed to get off them, so he went cold turkey. This is not easy or so they say, but his solution was to carry a packet of butterscotch sweets, and each time he felt like a fag ( read ciggie ), he sucked a sweet, and it worked. Probably didn't do his blood sugars any good, but it wasn't what finally killed him at 81.
He then regained his sense of taste and smell which he had lost due to the smokes, and he also became quite aggressive towards other people who smoked near him!
He never smoked tailor mades, but only rollies, and I still have a heap of the empty Capstan tins with bits and pieces stored in them.
Luckily all 4 kids never took up the habit.
Ian.
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My Dad smoked Condor Twist and Woodbines ,Mother smoked Embassy , Dad gave me a ten bob note and a box of matches and said set fire to the ten bob note ,could not do it ,then he said that what you are doing every time you smoke . Never had a smoke in my life .
David
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I am sure the authors here feel pleased with themselves, and good luck to them.
However their burning desire to compel their Damascus-like conversion on others often borders on radical discrimination. Most of us if we live long enough will develop cancer of some kind. If you are a smoker that’s the reason, if not you must have once been near one. Doctors will tell you the risk remains for at least 15 years, so if you are into your seventies it makes little practical difference.
As long as I do not smoke near you, please rein in the compulsion to convert me to an anti-smoker with the zeal of an I.S. fighter having caught you with a bacon butty. We all have choices.
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1. Is this a quotation by the Chairman of the Board of British/American Tobacco?
2. Latest studies from the University of Stupidity suggests eating pork will decrease sensibility and increase senility
:kiss:... Derek
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I am sure the authors here feel pleased with themselves, and good luck to them.
However their burning desire to compel their Damascus-like conversion on others often borders on radical discrimination. Most of us if we live long enough will develop cancer of some kind. If you are a smoker that’s the reason, if not you must have once been near one. Doctors will tell you the risk remains for at least 15 years, so if you are into your seventies it makes little practical difference.
As long as I do not smoke near you, please rein in the compulsion to convert me to an anti-smoker with the zeal of an I.S. fighter having caught you with a bacon butty. We all have choices.
'scuse me? I don't recall attempting to turn you into a non smoker? I don't give a wotsit if you smoke, if you drink, what ever you do...doesn't worry me in the slightest.
Enjoy your bacon butty...
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You upsetting people again Rich <*<
Actually I don't think Bob was pointing the finger at anyone in particular???
For me I can't get my head around these vapour cigs, I know a few people on them, and they all seem to say the same, they've given up smoking.
What happens when you stop using them then? Everyone I know has gone back to smoking the real things.
Just wait, 10 years time they will come out with those vapour fags are bad for your health {-)
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in reply: I was only getting tired of those who ceaselessly try to “convert” others who enjoy smoking in an almost quasi-religious obsession.
Think on this: If everyone in the world stopped smoking now, when most cancers and almost everything else short of ingrowing toenails is expertly blamed on it, then in twenty years’ time when the prevalence of these ailments has not declined significantly – what will they blame them on then?
Can we get back to model boats please?
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Again if you do not like what you read on the Chit Chat site Bob K then move on to another thread, Simples eeek Do you have a personal vendetta against the Chit chat Section ??.
Personally I would ban cigarettes totally, not allow them in any public spaces etc etc. Anyone seen throwing a butt out of a car should have their car impounded and crushed :police: 8) 8)
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:-)) I gave up smoking 35 years ago after a bout of pneumonia which nearly killed me,funny but now I can't stand the smell of it at all,as an apprentice I worked in a power station which was completely covered in Asbestos,after working there for 17 years I must have quite a bit in my lungs so if I get a couch I pop down to the hospital for an X ray,the thing that annoys me is that they knew how dangerous it as early as the 1930s,I worked there in the 1960s and 1970s and they never told us,I wonder how many of the people I worked with died because of this. >>:-(
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Personally I would ban cigarettes totally, not allow them in any public spaces etc etc. Anyone seen throwing a butt out of a car should have their car impounded and crushed :police: 8) 8)
Sadly, this is typical obsessive hated of many ex-smokers. Quite sad really what this does to some people.
BTW: My first five years in engineering I worked cutting asbestos, no masks or ventilation. No one seemed bothered.
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I'm not an ex smoker, as I was smart enough not to get on them in the first place. But I have many friends who thought it was smart to smoke and are now enjoying the pleasures of COPD with limited lung function, and most are much younger than I am. This is not a great life with limited physical capability, and carrying around an oxygen bottle for the rest of their lives, but there has been plenty of published evidence for years that smoking is a health hazard, and it's not just about cancer, although that's one of the major effects.
I'm with The Longbuild and agree that the world would be a better place without the filthy things. Many councils here in Aus are starting to ban them in public places and food areas, and that's great because I can now walk down the main street in Tamworth without being assaulted by the smoke of inconsiderate smokers who care about nobody but themselves.
And throwing their filthy fags from cars is a major cause of bushfires here in Aus, and the penalties if caught are quite high, but the problem is catching the morons at it! Impounding their cars is a great idea, and a lot heavier penalty than what currently exists. I now have dash cams installed in my vehicles, so if I was to see it happen, there is recorded evidence.
I don't have a problem with people who want to smoke and risk their health, and I don't give a toss if if kills them, but I do have a problem with when they are about in public and spreading their smoke to other people who should not have to share in their filthy habit.
Ian.
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Probably time this thread was closed.
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.....my boss [the senior Foreman in Weapon's at Garden Island] was a man that I considered as great in many ways :-)).......15 stone - 6' tall - jolly - knowledgeable - displayed great wisdom in industrially related dispute matters, absolutely fair, firm and authoritative in manner as needed .........I had a tremendous respect for him..... [we all learn from such superiors displaying these worldly traits] ....... a non smoker from birth to death
Sadly he died of an asbestoses related lung disease some years back......as an apprentice he spent years under the decks of HMAS Melbourne and HMAS Sydney repairing the Arrester Gear Systems.....yes steam catapult's........and all lagged with that same asbestos.....I saw coloured images of the men from those years.....green overalls in the morning......their overalls, hair and faces all white as snow <*< by lunchtime
World Governments have banned the use of asbestos but are faced with a trident of issues with tobacco
1. make tobacco smoking illegal
2. consequences are loss of Government revenue + the illegal industry would flourish which would also further contribute to a decrease of tax revenue
3. the loss of Government revenue would be [Politically offered] a contributor to lower funding for our health system
In Australia, any older person hoping to be admitted to Hospital for any type of elective surgery....if they tick the box about being a smoker is [unofficially] a trigger for the Computer system to put them and keep them on the never ending waiting list............
Most of my grandchildren whilst happy to see all grandparents, however decline to be held of cuddled by a grandmother that still part takes in the burning of tobacco as a hobby.........O0
Derek
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Hullo Bob......in an effort to gain an impartial view on this thread <*<, I have forwarded it to a relative [yes many will know O0], a now retired Professor of English Language from one of our Australian National Universities
This chap completed the PhD in the UK, and whilst now retired is often booked to speak on this subject of the English Language in World Forums
His initial comments were......'without entering into the debate in the consumption of tobacco related materials'
1. the vast majority of postings are from ex or non smokers
2. many postings offer personal views
3. a number of postings related to personal medically related matters
4. there did not appear to be any evidence written or displayed of an 'obsessive hated' [hatred?]
5. clearly no offerings or actions suggesting to the scale of a Damascus Type Conversion
6. the "zeal" of an IS fighter is yet to be qualified and so no comment is offered here
As I have recently mentioned, the English language is certainly a basket full of words that can be difficult to use, or conversely easy to mis-use
Always good to get a balanced view :-))
Derek
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Following is an extract from the Ipswich Journal, 25/2/1758
The subject is the grounding of HMS Invincible on the sands off Langsstone Harbour.......a good example in the use of Schaffersf to represent an S in language content......I have highlighted the f 's that I believe are pronounced as s's...... any ideas? {-)
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mmmmmmmmmmm absolutely great reading.........but all too hard to import the story <*< sorry ............
Derek
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All I got was a load of old rope ?
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Yeh....in 1/4 of a mile lengths of new rope according to the text {-) , but hit the Explore button O0
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More by luck than good judgement I have never smoked, not even one, lots of reasons why but when I grew up most people smoked and as a non smoker you were expected to put up with it. Secondary smoking kills as well.
Now if people want to smoke in general that's up to them but they do not have the right to inflict it upon others. There are well known health hazards such that all offices in the UK banned it some time ago. Quite frankly good as I no longer have clothes that stink and can breath properly in the office.
Its funny how the new norm affects people. A few years ago I was in Portugal and they still generally smoke and I had to leave the venue because of the stench. The next day all my clothes really really stank.
There is an old expression there nowt so worse as a reformed smoker but I can smell smoke from 50 yards and if someone has smoked can smell it on them if they are near me! The other truism is that a smoker cannot really understand how offensive the smell and fumes are to a non-smoker but they just expect us to put up with it - why should we?
Its just the way things are and if you choose to smoke its up to you but as above you have no right to inflict it on others who choose not to. However I think it right there should be smoking areas but they do need to be completely separate.
The only thing that should be smoking are the funnels on model boats!!
Cheers
Geoff
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The only thing that should be smoking are the funnels on model boats!!
And they just vape these days... %%
Colin
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It's a long time since I gave up smoking, just got fed up with the habit. But when we moved house about 40 years ago the two owners were both very heavy smokers and when they moved out the walls and ceilings were thick with yellow nicotine. It took me several weeks with buckets of warm water and sugar soap to get the crut off the surfaces, and even longer for the smell to disappear . I remember thinking , If the state of the walls and ceiling were any indication of the condition of their respiratory systems heaven help them.
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As a child all houses had yellowish ceilings from the smoke, it was just usual. Its rarely seen now which is a positive thing. I've often though of vaping for funnel smoke but haven't seen it done successfully yet. I think one issue is that the heating coils in vaping are only meant to be used for a second or so at a time. That could probably be circumvented by using two, one on, one off etc.
Given the clouds of vape it may look very effective.
I've actually though of going back to the old incense sticks - a couple in the funnel would probably burn for about 45 mins? Must do some experimentation!
Cheers
Geoff
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I decided to give up smoking on November 1st 2020 (Sunday 9 am), 1 pm had a heart attack......taken to hospital in Rouen (50Km away) as Dieppe hospital was full of Covid patients...
5 30 that evening in a hospital having had a stent fitted, left on the Wednesday......
Not had a cigarette since.... :-)
[size=78%]Wake up call I [/size]thought.... :-)) [size=78%] [/size]
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Tuesday 18th Aug. 2002 6.15pm last cigarette while suffering 2nd MI. Cold Turkey after 35 a day, (only 20 that day). After managing to not have to take tablets for other things, came as a system shock of having to take five a day since that date. Won't criticise anyone for smoking as I used to enjoy mine but you've got to WANT to stop and forget all the patches and potions. You got the best inducement Phil :-))
Regards Ian.
Still get the urge now and again after a meal BUT taint gonna happen.
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I've never had a cigarette in my life. Plenty of passive smoking as kids though. My Dad died of lung cancer and I have a very close relative currently in hospital with inoperable throat and mouth cancer plus severe heart disease after a lifetime of smoking. :((
Colin
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Hi Phil, good on you, tell me, what have you done with all the money you have saved since packing it in. Mother stopped smoking but she still put the money away each day what she would have spent, in short while she redecorated the entire flat. nemesis
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I smoked from age 15 to age 40 when I saw the light and stopped without substitutes of any kind, best decision of my life and 24 years later it has paid me in many ways. The guys I know of my age who still smoke all look like they don't have as long left :(( or already pegged it.
PS my dads idea of stopping me smoking was to steal my cigs and smoke them himself. Yes he's dead long ago now after 60 a day for decades.
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I'm 72 and gave up 2 years ago and still miss them. I loved my tobacco, pipe and cigs, but was always careful not to inflict my fumes on others. Looking back I was a fool to start, wisdom in hindsight.