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Title: Useless information...
Post by: U-33 on January 31, 2017, 04:52:16 PM
The good lady reminded me that it was a year ago (give or take a day or so) I gave up smoking...haven't touched one, or wanted one, in all that time.


Well pleased with myself... ;D
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Post by: John W E on January 31, 2017, 05:39:40 PM
August 14 at 7.30 a.m. 2014 - sticks well in my mind

I was at my computer - almighty pain - turned around - rushed off to hospital - and remember the Doctor saying to me - you have to turn on your side - and I will always recall the excruciating pain as the medics inserted - what looked like a welding rod - through my ribcage.    That is all I remember until the next morning - woke up black and blue from my armpit to my hip on my right hand side. Pipes and bits were hanging from me - also a box type of thing attached to me that was bubbling away while I was trying to breach  - collapsed lung.   When I recovered and they came to remove all the pipes etc I asked for the pipe that was inserted through me - this serves as a reminder every time I want a cigarette.   I look at this jar with the pipe in it - and this will remind me of the pain and are cigarettes worth it.

Here you go all - if you want to PACK IN SMOKING and want something to help you along the way - HAVE A LOOK - nobody enjoyed a ciggy more than I did.

Breathing is a lot more enjoyable by the way :-)

John
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Post by: MartinL on January 31, 2017, 10:57:33 PM
Seeing your photo Bluebird reminds me of a similar thing they showed me when I went to a smoking sessation clinic at my local surgery. Put me off smoking and haven't touched one since, that was 5 years ago. I have taken to electric fags now so I get my nicotine kick that way, and it's has saved me a fortune (about £6 a day), means I can buy more boats.
Martin
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Post by: raflaunches on January 31, 2017, 11:02:43 PM
Wow now that's a stark reminder to keep you on the straight and narrow.

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Post by: BFSMP on February 01, 2017, 12:21:47 AM

The good lady reminded me that it was a year ago (give or take a day or so) I gave up smoking...haven't touched one, or wanted one, in all that time.


Well pleased with myself... ;D


Congratulations and well done rich. I hope you feel much better for doing so.


Jim.
Title: Re: Useless information...
Post by: U-33 on February 01, 2017, 08:47:37 AM
I sure do, Jim...my COPD hasn't really changed,  but my pocket money has increased  ;)


My home smells better,  cuddle ratio has increased ten fold  ;D   well worth doing!   :-))






(I should add that I do still use an e-cig, along the lines of a 'comfort blanket')
Title: Re: Useless information...
Post by: Arrow5 on February 01, 2017, 10:21:33 AM
Useful fact #2   cigarettes cost about £24 in Australia for 20, graphic disease pictures on packet.   Price them out of existence in UK I say.
Title: Re: Useless information...
Post by: U-33 on February 01, 2017, 11:52:04 AM
It's funny, the smell of cigarette smoke and/or smokers never bothered me in the past, but since giving up I can smell the merest whiff a mile off, it almost makes me pysically sick.



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Post by: boat captain on February 01, 2017, 03:50:15 PM
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cigarette smoke and/or smokers never bothered me in the past, but since giving up I can smell the merest whiff a mile off, it almost makes me pysically sick.

I am the same after packing them in 29 years ago.
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Post by: derekwarner on February 01, 2017, 11:25:36 PM
Yes, in OZ.....

Current cost is about $1.00 per cigarette = $30.00 per day for the average puffer = $10,950.00 per year   >>:-(

The alternative = $0.169 per day on Government Prescription Nicobate type patches = a 3 months set cost $15.90 :-))

Gave up the habit 20 something years ago O0......

Wasn't it Sir Francis Drake  <*< that introduced tobacco to Europe after one of his voyages to the Americas?

Derek
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Post by: BrianB6 on February 02, 2017, 12:48:34 AM
I thought it was Sir Walter Raleigh and that his housekeeper threw a bucket of water over him thinking he was on fire
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Post by: derekwarner on February 02, 2017, 01:43:01 AM
 :-))...yes 100% correct BrianB6...I could visualise the scene from the movie where the smoker was in his big chair in the ships great room & the bucket of water was thrown from afar.....however certainly got the name mixed :embarrassed:

Derek
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Post by: U-33 on February 02, 2017, 09:07:01 AM
It's strange, but when I had my second (and almost fatal) heart attack, the surgeon told me that if I didn't quit, the next time he saw me would be at my graveside. That was in 2008...I carried on smoking for another eight years! Why did I do that? Stubborness, maybe? Lord only knows...


I had my first cigarette at the tender age of nine...yes, 9. My father got his baccy tin out, rolled me a smoke, and said "eeyar boi...." and that was it. What with fifty years plus of inhaling tobacco smoke, diesel fumes, road dust, sh*t and cr*p from forty years plus of trucking, I consider myself lucky to be still alive...



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Post by: oldflyer2 on February 02, 2017, 09:16:43 PM
It's been 5 years for me and most of the time I feel the better for it. Over 50 years I smoked, mostly non filtered.  My bank account certainly feels healthier.

Tom
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Post by: derekwarner on February 02, 2017, 10:18:01 PM
Well ....some 60 years ago, my Grandfather & I would walk about 1/2 a mile to the grounds of South Bulli Colliery with a push wheel barrow & spade.....we collected the horse manure [courtesy of the Pit Ponies] .....this was destined for Pa's rose bush garden......

Pa was not allowed to smoke at home, but hid two small metal tins hidden under the house where the wheel barrow was stored.......when at the Colliery fields, Pa would make a rollie & give me a puff

I thought he was the greatest.......Nanna would chastise him  <*<...when we got back home as she could smell tobacco smoke on his clothes..... {-)

Derek
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Post by: Ianlind on February 03, 2017, 03:43:54 AM
My late Dad was taught to smoke in the army during WW2 and after 44 years decided he needed to get off them, so he went cold turkey. This is not easy or so they say, but his solution was to carry a packet of butterscotch sweets, and each time he felt like a fag ( read ciggie ), he sucked a sweet, and it worked. Probably didn't do his blood sugars any good, but it wasn't what finally killed him at 81.
He then regained his sense of taste and smell which he had lost due to the smokes, and he also became quite aggressive towards other people who smoked near him!
He never smoked tailor mades, but only rollies, and I still have a heap of the empty Capstan tins with bits and pieces stored in them.


Luckily all 4 kids never took up the habit.


Ian.
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Post by: david48 on February 03, 2017, 09:41:03 AM

My Dad smoked Condor Twist and Woodbines ,Mother smoked Embassy , Dad gave me a ten bob note and a box of matches and said set fire to the ten bob note  ,could not do it ,then he said that what you are doing every time you smoke . Never had a smoke in my life .
David
Title: Re: Useless information...
Post by: Bob K on February 03, 2017, 10:14:51 AM
I am sure the authors here feel pleased with themselves, and good luck to them. 

However their burning desire to compel their Damascus-like conversion on others often borders on radical discrimination.  Most of us if we live long enough will develop cancer of some kind.  If you are a smoker that’s the reason, if not you must have once been near one.  Doctors will tell you the risk remains for at least 15 years, so if you are into your seventies it makes little practical difference. 

As long as I do not smoke near you, please rein in the compulsion to convert me to an anti-smoker with the zeal of an I.S. fighter having caught you with a bacon butty.  We all have choices.
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Post by: derekwarner on February 03, 2017, 02:15:19 PM
1. Is this a quotation by the Chairman of the Board of British/American Tobacco?
2. Latest studies from the University of Stupidity suggests eating pork will decrease sensibility and increase senility

 :kiss:... Derek
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Post by: U-33 on February 03, 2017, 03:15:28 PM
I am sure the authors here feel pleased with themselves, and good luck to them. 

However their burning desire to compel their Damascus-like conversion on others often borders on radical discrimination.  Most of us if we live long enough will develop cancer of some kind.  If you are a smoker that’s the reason, if not you must have once been near one.  Doctors will tell you the risk remains for at least 15 years, so if you are into your seventies it makes little practical difference. 

As long as I do not smoke near you, please rein in the compulsion to convert me to an anti-smoker with the zeal of an I.S. fighter having caught you with a bacon butty.  We all have choices.


'scuse me? I don't recall attempting to turn you into a non smoker? I don't give a wotsit if you smoke, if you drink, what ever you do...doesn't worry me in the slightest.


Enjoy your bacon butty...
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Post by: IanPal on February 03, 2017, 03:58:35 PM
You upsetting people again Rich  <*<


Actually I don't think Bob was pointing the finger at anyone in particular???


For me I can't get my head around these vapour cigs, I know a few people on them, and they all seem to say the same, they've given  up smoking.
What happens when you stop using them then? Everyone I know has gone back to smoking the real things.


Just wait, 10 years time they will come out with those vapour fags are bad for your health  {-)
Title: Re: Useless information...
Post by: Bob K on February 03, 2017, 05:36:03 PM
in reply:  I was only getting tired of those who ceaselessly try to “convert” others who enjoy smoking in an almost quasi-religious obsession. 

Think on this:  If everyone in the world stopped smoking now, when most cancers and almost everything else short of ingrowing toenails is expertly blamed on it, then in twenty years’ time when the prevalence of these ailments has not declined significantly – what will they blame them on then?

Can we get back to model boats please?
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Post by: TheLongBuild on February 03, 2017, 06:08:44 PM

Again if you do not like what you read on the Chit Chat site Bob K then move on to another thread, Simples eeek   Do you have a personal vendetta against the Chit chat Section ??.


Personally I would ban cigarettes totally, not allow them in any public spaces etc etc. Anyone seen throwing a butt out of a car should have their car impounded and crushed   :police: 8) 8)
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Post by: sparkey on February 03, 2017, 06:45:16 PM
 :-)) I gave up smoking 35 years ago after a bout of pneumonia which nearly killed me,funny but now I can't stand the smell of it at all,as an apprentice I worked in a power station which was completely covered in Asbestos,after working there for 17 years I must have quite a bit in my lungs so if I get a couch I pop down to the hospital for an X ray,the thing that annoys me is that they knew how dangerous it as early as the 1930s,I worked there in the 1960s and 1970s and they never told us,I wonder how many of the people I worked with died because of this. >>:-( 
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Post by: Bob K on February 03, 2017, 09:07:34 PM

Personally I would ban cigarettes totally, not allow them in any public spaces etc etc. Anyone seen throwing a butt out of a car should have their car impounded and crushed   :police: 8) 8)

Sadly, this is typical obsessive hated of many ex-smokers.  Quite sad really what this does to some people.

BTW: My first five years in engineering I worked cutting asbestos, no masks or ventilation.  No one seemed bothered.
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Post by: Ianlind on February 03, 2017, 10:46:21 PM
I'm not an ex smoker, as I was smart enough not to get on them in the first place. But I have many friends who thought it was smart to smoke and are now enjoying the pleasures of COPD with limited lung function, and most are much younger than I am. This is not a great life with limited physical capability, and carrying around an oxygen bottle for the rest of their lives, but there has been plenty of published evidence for years that smoking is a health hazard, and it's not just about cancer, although that's one of the major effects.


I'm with The Longbuild and agree that the world would be a better place without the filthy things. Many councils here in Aus are starting to ban them in public places and food areas, and that's great because I can now walk down the main street in Tamworth without being assaulted by the smoke of inconsiderate smokers who care about nobody but themselves.
And throwing their filthy fags from cars is a major cause of bushfires here in Aus, and the penalties if caught are quite high, but the problem is catching the morons at it! Impounding their cars is a great idea, and a lot heavier penalty than what currently exists. I now have dash cams installed in my vehicles, so if I was to see it happen, there is recorded evidence.
I don't have a problem with people who want to smoke and risk their health, and I don't give a toss if if kills them, but I do have a problem with when they are about in public and spreading their smoke to other people who should not have to share in their filthy habit.


Ian.
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Post by: BrianB6 on February 03, 2017, 11:29:39 PM
Probably time this thread was closed.
Title: Re: Useless information...
Post by: derekwarner on February 03, 2017, 11:32:37 PM
.....my boss [the senior Foreman in Weapon's at Garden Island] was a man  that I considered as great in many ways :-)).......15 stone - 6' tall - jolly - knowledgeable - displayed great wisdom in industrially related dispute matters, absolutely fair, firm and authoritative in manner as needed .........I had a tremendous respect for him..... [we all learn from such superiors displaying these worldly traits] .......  a non smoker from birth to death

Sadly he died of an asbestoses related lung disease some years back......as an apprentice he spent years under the decks of HMAS Melbourne and HMAS Sydney repairing the Arrester Gear Systems.....yes steam catapult's........and all lagged with that same asbestos.....I saw coloured images of the men  from those years.....green overalls in the morning......their overalls, hair and faces all white as snow  <*< by lunchtime

World Governments have banned the use of asbestos but are faced with a trident of issues with tobacco

1. make tobacco smoking illegal
2. consequences are loss of Government revenue + the illegal industry would flourish which would also further contribute to a decrease of tax revenue
3. the loss of Government revenue would be [Politically offered] a contributor to lower funding for our health system
 
In Australia, any older person hoping to be admitted to Hospital for any type of elective surgery....if they tick the box about being a smoker is [unofficially] a trigger for the Computer system to put them and keep them on the never ending waiting list............

Most of my grandchildren whilst happy to see all grandparents, however decline to be held of cuddled by a grandmother that still part takes in the burning of tobacco as a hobby.........O0

Derek
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Post by: derekwarner on February 04, 2017, 12:10:12 AM
Hullo Bob......in an effort to gain an impartial view on this thread <*<, I have forwarded it to a relative [yes many will know O0], a now retired Professor of English Language from one of our Australian National Universities

This chap completed the PhD in the UK, and whilst now retired is often booked to speak on this subject of the English Language in World Forums

His initial comments were......'without entering into the debate in the consumption of tobacco related materials'

1. the vast majority of postings are from ex or non smokers
2. many postings offer personal views
3. a number of postings related to personal medically related matters
4. there did not appear to be any evidence written or displayed of an 'obsessive hated' [hatred?]
5. clearly no offerings or actions suggesting to the scale of a Damascus Type Conversion
6. the "zeal" of an IS fighter is yet to be qualified and so no comment is offered here

As I have recently mentioned, the English language is certainly a basket full of words that can be difficult to use, or conversely easy to mis-use
Always good to get a balanced view :-))

Derek