Model Boat Mayhem

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Title: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on March 13, 2017, 06:45:09 pm
What do you use for heavy boats? I'm looking at folding fishing carts like the Trakker Galaxy


Like
https://youtu.be/qcKPa2bgVOE
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on March 13, 2017, 06:52:20 pm
Or this much cheaper
https://youtu.be/JJZX8ioaDUY
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on March 13, 2017, 07:20:16 pm
Or a possibly more stable twin wheeler
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/TJkAAOSwhdRYWkmI/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: Daleb on March 13, 2017, 07:27:58 pm
Are they on ebay  %)
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on March 13, 2017, 07:32:45 pm
Are they on ebay  %)
Everything is on ebay but not necessarily cheapest
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: cos918 on March 13, 2017, 08:09:41 pm
this is what I use


John
PS we used it to move Mikes 3m long QE2 at warwick


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Heavy-Duty-Foldable-Garden-Trolley-Cart-Wagon-Truck-Wheelbarrow-/172023188196?hash=item280d618ae4%3Ag%3AzgkAAOSwxN5WZtEc
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on March 13, 2017, 08:13:00 pm
 :-))


Theres a major angling shop near me so I'll have a browse in the flesh on Friday
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: tsenecal on March 13, 2017, 08:51:03 pm
The local Hardware conglomerate carries two different wagons, i own the red version...
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: ballastanksian on March 13, 2017, 09:04:32 pm
A chap that attended the Wicksteed show last year had a trolley mounted on bicycle wheels. It had a superb ride that absorbed bumps and wbbles better than smaller wheels. Many boats will ride these out, but some models are that bit more fragile and don't like wibbling especially if quite old with brittle glues/ building materials. I recall it was home made, so if you can get some wheels and do a bit of light engineering you could make a trolley with an easier ride to your personal specification:O)
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on March 13, 2017, 09:22:19 pm
Good replies but I'm still erring on the side of folding carts as most boats will fill a boot/trunk. So I want one that will go behind a front seat.


(http://trakkerproducts.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/215302_X-Trail_Galaxy_05.jpg)
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: tsenecal on March 13, 2017, 10:02:53 pm

thinking outside the "boot"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNYzy7buaOQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNYzy7buaOQ)
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on March 13, 2017, 10:11:34 pm
 {-)
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: jarvo on March 13, 2017, 10:28:26 pm
I use the same as cos, £30, i dont use the nylon bag, i fitted a ply floor and large boats slide into the truck with transmitter and batteries etc all carried together, empty it weighs about 15lbs, and folds to fit behind the passenger seat, (the models are in the boot) looked at fishing trolleys/barrows etc, very expensive and not much better than the truck


Mark
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: skierdive on March 13, 2017, 10:54:18 pm
Just a thought, maybe a folding / collapsible wheelchair could be adapted or even a baby buggy or pram.
Ian.
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: tigertiger on March 14, 2017, 01:19:27 am
I would often see baby buggies, in a sorry state, down at the tip/recycle centre. They could provide wheels, and if more pram like the chassis too.
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: jarvo on March 14, 2017, 08:10:28 am
Skierdive, Looked at wheel chairs and baby buggies, the wheel chair with the canvas back removed would work, keep the upright handles. A baby buggy is more integrated and most are difficult to alter, the canvas is usually one piece and part of the chassis.


tigertiger, if you just use the wheels, the effort involved as well as cost to make a chassis and framework is not worth the time, much better spent building your models and spend a little on a truck
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: Bob K on March 14, 2017, 10:28:29 am
I have one of the original Silver Cross push chairs.  Hard to find these days.
Remove 'chair' parts and add a 'drop in' horizontal platform.
Surprising how much it can carry, with room on the tray underneath for TX bag and camping chair.
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: kinmel on March 14, 2017, 03:42:01 pm
My 1:12th Tamar sat happily on a converted golf trolley that I got from the local recycling centre.

I bought that estate car because the trolley/boat fitted perfectly.
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on March 14, 2017, 03:46:10 pm
Wonderful  :-))  smashing craft
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: jarvo on March 14, 2017, 06:44:07 pm
Good one mate, the only problem is it will fit the Tamar but what about other boats??


Mark
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: Buccaneer on March 14, 2017, 08:23:18 pm
I use a slightly modified shopping trolley. £10 at the local discount store. It carries my Ben Ain, 48" and 27 lbs, quite easily and folds flat.

John
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: Chris57 on March 14, 2017, 08:36:23 pm
Surely the shopping trolley only cost a pound!? %) , they do down our way anyway!


Chris
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: kinmel on March 14, 2017, 09:20:07 pm
Good one mate, the only problem is it will fit the Tamar but what about other boats??


Mark

That trolley is dedicated to the Tamar, but in reality it is an old golf trolley with a cradle fastened to it.  Design the cradle to take whatever boats you want to move.
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: Car wash !!! on March 14, 2017, 10:03:55 pm
I dont see the problem I just take the car to the edge %) %) %%
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: gregk9 on March 14, 2017, 10:05:09 pm
I too used a golf trolley, simply fabricate a frame with two web straps which undersling the hull, so it will adapt to snugly fit any shape hull you want. then the frame clips to the gold trolley with 2 smaller web straps so easily removeable, and you can use the frame as a boat stand too, so very universal. used it for 5 yrs now and not a problem, and the golf trolley folds up and light to carry and hand up in the garage.
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on March 14, 2017, 10:08:20 pm
There's tidy for you isnit  :-)
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: BrianB6 on March 15, 2017, 07:53:44 am
I use an old pram with a piece of chipboard.
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: BrianB6 on March 15, 2017, 07:58:14 am
Of course you could build your own trailer and trolly.
This one is for 1:100 Missouri, QE2 and QM2 (3.6 metres long)
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on March 15, 2017, 10:10:48 am
Great replies and pics  :-))
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: TheLongBuild on March 15, 2017, 05:56:00 pm

May need a bit of refinement but !!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4JuB43oDoA
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on August 13, 2017, 02:39:46 pm
It's been a while  {-)  BUT I now have a transporter.
A converted newspaper cart.
I should also be able to launch and retrieve it with this.
It also folds  :-))


(https://photos.smugmug.com/Boat-bits/i-CB8zJzv/0/ffe886c8/X2/IMG_1919-X2.jpg)


(https://photos.smugmug.com/Boat-bits/i-GcGtmC2/0/0cdb2367/X2/IMG_1918-X2.jpg)
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on August 13, 2017, 03:40:06 pm
The Aluminium angle I fitted in picture one just takes the weight of my kit bag


(https://photos.smugmug.com/Boat-bits/i-27GVnNW/0/7fd2a4fc/X2/IMG_1920-X2.jpg)
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on August 13, 2017, 04:54:04 pm
Fishing line recovery system 😝
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Boat-bits/i-xtvH3KZ/0/7333fcab/XL/IMG_1924-XL.jpg)
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: BFSMP on August 13, 2017, 05:06:46 pm

nice old Penn Reel.......worth a bob or two now as a vintage piece of memorabilia. :-))

Jim.
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on August 13, 2017, 05:07:43 pm
I had it gifted recently, not in best condition but fully serviceable 👍
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: BFSMP on August 13, 2017, 06:07:51 pm
that model was my first boat reel off my parents when I passed my gce's in the early 60's.......good reel.......and the old ones are going up in price these days......like the old Mitchel's too.
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on August 13, 2017, 06:56:00 pm
I've searched eBay and cannot find one like this and unusually mine has no model markings on it.
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: BFSMP on August 13, 2017, 07:16:02 pm

been trying to remember what the model no. was since telling you, but can't....it'll come to me.........but i'll look on the US  ebay as they were a US reel.


the reels on the US site ain't so hot but mine was this model....the 109.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Penn-Peer-No-109-Level-Wind-Fishing-Reel-/122634267521?hash=item1c8d926b81:g:BcsAAOSwjC9Zh2AK
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on August 13, 2017, 07:18:22 pm
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Boat-bits/i-R9D4n5N/0/1ab4d2fb/XL/IMG_1925-XL.jpg)
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on August 13, 2017, 07:31:45 pm
I just bought this unused mint boxed  {-)
Probably paid too much but I like collectables. Holds 400yds
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/unused-penn-85-l-sea-boy-multiplier-fishing-reel-boxed-mint-/382187846969?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=0dqTe%252FR6HoDa8A6HJfV7egnNtwo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/unused-penn-85-l-sea-boy-multiplier-fishing-reel-boxed-mint-/382187846969?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=0dqTe%252FR6HoDa8A6HJfV7egnNtwo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc)
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: BFSMP on August 13, 2017, 08:41:53 pm

nice one,  :-))


Jim.
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: TugCowboy on August 13, 2017, 09:26:59 pm
"The Range" had these folding things they called 'festival carts' Today for about £40. Nice soft sides and good squidgy tyres.



Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: jarvo on August 14, 2017, 08:41:50 am
Hi Tug, Thats the one i have bought, folds up into a small size, also altered mine, removed the "bag" and added a ply platform so my smaller boats don't fall through, depending on parking i can have a 1/2 mile walk to the lakeside, can now take a few boats to sail instead of struggling with one
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on August 18, 2017, 06:09:21 pm
I found out why there are no PENN identification marks on the reel  {-)
I took it off to fit the new one and on the back of the mount is says made in Japan. So its a lookey likey  ;D
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on October 16, 2017, 09:04:28 pm
My trolley above for the Athon is not suitable for the Portgarth and not good on rough ground either.


My stand that I put together for its construction is so robust I figured I could evolve it into a cart and later make another stand for display/storage.


These are barrow wheels off eBay.
I've used 20mm conduit for the axle and 25mm conduit for the keel line tube that will after tomorrow accommodate a slide in handle. Just need a leg under the front.


(https://photos.smugmug.com/Boat-bits/i-ngzcM63/0/938cb563/X2/4369A029-797F-45B1-820A-20478A979487-X2.jpg)


(https://photos.smugmug.com/Boat-bits/i-shQGvZK/0/f8a37638/X2/D7F7AFA4-80DE-4746-9078-C60AACEFB011-X2.jpg)


(https://photos.smugmug.com/Boat-bits/i-XZ4cnMg/0/ac809b16/X2/29C7B0C4-9F9A-4D43-8EBD-DCC4B3F3FB6A-X2.jpg)
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: Paul2407 on October 16, 2017, 09:18:08 pm
Very nice job Andy  :-)) looks just the job
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on October 16, 2017, 09:20:49 pm
Thanks Paul. I'm quite chuffed with it  O0
I'm going to give it a paint job ,probably Royal blue and I have some BIG Portgarth stickers for the sides  {-)


A grip for the handle is the only problem as the tube will be 20mm. Bikes start at 25.4  {:-{
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: warspite on October 16, 2017, 09:39:29 pm
Pity you are not a company, we used parrr for handles on 20mm bar, the old companies gone belly up or i could have sent yuo a couple, 2 r,s in parr
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on October 16, 2017, 09:42:47 pm
Thanks for the heads up  :-))
https://www.stakrak-catalogue.co.uk/protective-hand-grips-20mm-diameter-ec010?manufacturer_id=10&page=8&limit=100
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: Paul2407 on October 16, 2017, 09:43:07 pm
Thanks Paul. I'm quite chuffed with it  O0
I'm going to give it a paint job ,probably Royal blue and I have some BIG Portgarth stickers for the sides  {-)


A grip for the handle is the only problem as the tube will be 20mm. Bikes start at 25.4  {:-{

What about something like fishing rod shrink wrap it's a thin rubber that is quite grippy in differant diameters that you can just cut to length, something like this (but local tackle shop has probably got some https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/361364301053?chn=ps&dispItem=1&adgroupid=46622246639&rlsatarget=pla-369907351582&abcId=1128946&adtype=pla&merchantid=7267454&googleloc=1006565&device=c&campaignid=857250873&crdt=0&var=630707264710 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/361364301053?chn=ps&dispItem=1&adgroupid=46622246639&rlsatarget=pla-369907351582&abcId=1128946&adtype=pla&merchantid=7267454&googleloc=1006565&device=c&campaignid=857250873&crdt=0&var=630707264710)
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on October 16, 2017, 09:53:27 pm
Good try but ordered already  O0
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: Paul2407 on October 16, 2017, 09:55:25 pm
Shame I could have sent you some
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on October 16, 2017, 10:02:39 pm
Shame I could have sent you some
Very kind offer  :-))  I never thought of heat shrink but I also have it at work hence the free conduit  ok2
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: Paul2407 on October 16, 2017, 10:32:34 pm
No worries Andy  :-)) I don't have it at work but I have rolls of it at home as I also rebuild fishing rods
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: grendel on October 17, 2017, 01:06:40 pm
I built this - then added steering
Title: Re: Car to pond boat transporter
Post by: T33cno on October 17, 2017, 07:29:35 pm
Completed this evening after knocking it up at work  {-)


(https://photos.smugmug.com/Boat-bits/i-P2xpDCS/0/6bd5343a/X2/1839C1FD-50AC-4D2C-9A38-4415FC05E2EA-X2.jpg)


(https://photos.smugmug.com/Boat-bits/i-q7FGkRJ/0/c60de588/X2/1C76818C-FE3C-47B9-80A6-E14AB28361B5-X2.jpg)


(https://photos.smugmug.com/Boat-bits/i-NTz2Ksp/0/270d25cb/X2/2661F10A-8BED-4E94-86E9-106EF674D1C5-X2.jpg)