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The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Working Vessels => Topic started by: Eupon on April 19, 2017, 12:04:39 pm

Title: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on April 19, 2017, 12:04:39 pm
Hi all,
Sorry for my bad english, i will try to condivide with you, the construction of the Trotamares (MantuaModel), in the rc version...
This kit does not seem to be compatible for the navigation, but i will try to lighten as much as possible the structure of the boat..

Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Bob K on April 19, 2017, 12:43:13 pm
Looks really good so far  O0

Converting a Mantua "static" model to a sailing model is not easy.  Good luck !
Keep us all up to date with your progress please  :-))
Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: barriew on April 19, 2017, 06:22:30 pm
I agree with Bob - I bought Trotamares with the intention of motorising it, but decided it would need a complete re-design of the hull structure. I think it may be easier to use the wooden hull to make a plug then a mould for a fibreglass hull.
I wish you luck and will be watching.


Barrie
Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Brian60 on April 19, 2017, 06:41:08 pm
very nice work, looking good so far.
Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: ballastanksian on April 19, 2017, 09:06:15 pm
Benvenuto a Model Boat mayhem Eupon!

If you manage to convert the model then you will have taught many others how to do it. If you try and cannot, you have at least given us some ideas to try in modifying the kit or using it in other ways.

Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on May 02, 2017, 12:06:04 am
work go on...
first layer finished, then some epoxy resin..
Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on October 28, 2018, 12:31:35 pm

just out of pure curiosity, I wanted to try in advance the buoyancy of the hull, tracing the LWL, and weighing the model and all that I would have loaded above ... unfortunately I had not taken into account that the ballast was too high and not at the bottom , so everything was too unstable for a precise test, but I will repeat it ..
the next step was to "gut" ordered and keel: first with tongs, then with drill and various accessories, I thinned as much as possible ... and here we can already make a first estimate of the weight: before lightening I had a hull which weighed 455g to which you should add 52g of floor (the reinforcement for the ordinate) that I removed immediately, plus 10g of resin given only outside ... total 517g with original configuration ... at the end of the "weight loss" , I find myself a hull weighing 300g ...


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5007)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5006)


Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on October 28, 2018, 12:34:22 pm
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(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5016)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5014)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5013)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5012)
Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on October 28, 2018, 12:39:27 pm

I fixed the propeller shaft case and the motor support, for now only with cyan ..
then I prepared the rudder with its "window" on the aft deck ..


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5132)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5131)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5130)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5129)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5128)
Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on October 28, 2018, 12:45:16 pm
I finally prepared the strips for laying on the bow and stern deck, by executing the caulking with coloring of the edges using a soft pencil...for the engine I chose a 400, I hope it is not too small


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5137)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5136)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5135)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5134)



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(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5141)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5140)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5138)
Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on October 28, 2018, 12:52:21 pm

test fitting internal elements (electronics) and test in the tank of the height of the LWL ... to my big surprise the LWL is still beautiful high, I used a LiPo battery of 1300, I know small ...
finally I sanded the bridges well to make them ready for teak oil ..
the central bridge is not yet glued


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5151)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5150)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5149)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5148)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5147)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5155)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5154)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5153)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5152)
Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on October 28, 2018, 12:58:57 pm

I strip the central bridge using soft pencil on the edges to simulate caulking, and lashed the inner walls, then I started the second plating, mahogany strips of 0.5x5mm...

(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5217)

(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5216)

(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5215)

(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5214)

(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5213)

(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5222)

(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5221)

(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5220)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5219)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5218)


Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on October 28, 2018, 01:04:40 pm

[size=78%]...[/size]
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(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5227)
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(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5226)


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(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5412)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5411)
Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on October 28, 2018, 01:09:41 pm

I completely finished the second mahogany plating and also covered the keel and fore-end;
in the meantime I started to set up some items like seats and tables ..
and then I am finally at the first coat of resin


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5410)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5409)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5408)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5414)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5413)
Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on October 28, 2018, 01:14:09 pm
is now the moment of the deckhouse ... before covering it externally with mahogany always from 0.5mm, I preferred to give the impregnating always mahogany, both outside and inside (even if I exaggerated with the dust seen how dark it came)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5419)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5418)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5417)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5416)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5415)
Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on October 28, 2018, 01:17:15 pm
knowing that the hull will be almost all painted except for a small stretch of edge, I wanted to have some memories of the beautiful piece of resin and polished wood ...


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5424)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5423)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5422)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5421)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5420)
Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on October 28, 2018, 01:21:21 pm
finished the outer lining of the deckhouse, I made the floor and the console rudder, of the wheelhouse area, then I glued the frames of the glasses that go externally, all then brushed with various coats of transparent water acrylic ...


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5660)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5659)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5658)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5657)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5664)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5663)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5662)



(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5661)
Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on October 28, 2018, 01:25:06 pm

I have "washed" the hull finally to do the umbrellas, the portholes, and the eyes of cuby for the anchors ... and here a question arises spontaneously: being a navigational model, what solution could I adopt for the eyes of cubia so that do you come in with water?
in fact, the portholes will have a brass frame with transparent plastic glass to close ... for the cubic eye the brass frame will host the anchors ...


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5668)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5667)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5666)






(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5665)
Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: hama on October 28, 2018, 03:21:48 pm
Wow! Absolutely beautiful woodwork!
Like a piece of art!
Hama
Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on February 04, 2019, 02:30:18 pm
I'm back to update you on the "shipyard"



Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on February 04, 2019, 03:01:22 pm
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Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on February 04, 2019, 03:02:56 pm
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Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on February 04, 2019, 03:04:57 pm
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Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Tafelspitz on February 04, 2019, 03:07:53 pm
Absolutely stunning! I'm in awe of your woodwork!
Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on February 04, 2019, 03:56:32 pm
thank you, but nothing comparable to your superb Imara  :-))
Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on February 04, 2019, 04:24:15 pm
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Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on February 04, 2019, 04:29:08 pm

the time has come to try again the float ... I realize with amazement that the water remains well below the lwl, ... I proceed to weigh it down with 250g ... the boat is still still very much above the lwl, but for now I'll settle and see his behavior in dynamics at the lake ...
in conclusion, however, we can say that the kit of Trotamares is absolutely suitable to become RC as it is already the Bruma, perhaps in Mantua (Mantua Model) should think to update the kit and make it already prepared for navigation

Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on February 04, 2019, 04:33:59 pm
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Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on February 10, 2019, 07:52:16 pm
FINITO!!!



Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on February 10, 2019, 07:53:00 pm
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https://youtu.be/B7fsG_ItWkM (https://youtu.be/B7fsG_ItWkM)
Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Martin [Admin] on February 10, 2019, 10:00:22 pm
 
Quite charming.  :-)
Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Tafelspitz on February 11, 2019, 06:19:38 am
Bellissimo! Meraviglioso!
Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: mark w on February 22, 2019, 01:35:15 am
Beautiful  :-)) , and a great place to run models also. .


Mark
Title: Re: TROTAMARES RC version
Post by: Eupon on February 22, 2019, 11:57:07 am

[size=78%]thanks, yes it's a very good place, the name is "parco di Tor di Quinto", here the roman association AMIREL, make some events about rc model boats
(http://www.amnavimodel.it/Gare/2017-10-29_Roma_TdQ/images/sam_5325.jpg)


(http://www.amirel.it/forum/download/file.php?id=5042)[/size]