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Technical, Techniques, Hints, and Tips => Detail Work, Rigging, Fittings, Figures Etc. => Topic started by: FrozenRabbit471 on April 20, 2017, 02:38:51 am

Title: Lost on Scale
Post by: FrozenRabbit471 on April 20, 2017, 02:38:51 am
Aye all,


My new model boat is the Billing Boats "Fairmount Alpine". It's 1:40 scale. Is the proper scale figurines 1:43 / "0" ?
I want to hire the right gang, and they're going to be a tight knit group. So they have to be the right scale!


Appreciate a life line guys.
Thanks :-))
Title: Re: Lost on Scale
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 20, 2017, 02:57:00 am
Should be about as close as you can get. Check out the range from Preiser in Germany. They do some boiler suited figures in either white or orange, which should look good. Pricey, but you gets what you pays for..
Title: Re: Lost on Scale
Post by: FrozenRabbit471 on April 20, 2017, 02:58:42 am
Thanks, I'll look them up
Title: Re: Lost on Scale
Post by: TailUK on April 20, 2017, 04:33:19 pm
Check out Shapeways (although their search engine can be infuriating)  A 1/40th scale figure should be 45mm tall and while you could get away with using 1/43rd scale they are noticeably smaller (4 mm) than 1/40th scale.
There's a guy who trades on Shapeways under the name Panzer Vs Tanks.   https://www.shapeways.com/shops/panzervstanks   He does a lot of really useful figure sets include Merchant marine crewmen.  I think it's relatively easy to rescale a figure in the computer and then you get them printed out by Shapeways.  Contact Panzer Vs Tanks and ask him about resizing, he's a pretty good guy. HTH
Title: Re: Lost on Scale
Post by: FrozenRabbit471 on April 20, 2017, 04:38:27 pm
thanks TailUK
Title: Re: Lost on Scale
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 20, 2017, 06:30:06 pm
Check out Shapeways (although their search engine can be infuriating)  A 1/40th scale figure should be 45mm tall and while you could get away with using 1/43rd scale they are noticeably smaller (4 mm) than 1/40th scale.
There's a guy who trades on Shapeways under the name Panzer Vs Tanks.   https://www.shapeways.com/shops/panzervstanks (https://www.shapeways.com/shops/panzervstanks)   He does a lot of really useful figure sets include Merchant marine crewmen.  I think it's relatively easy to rescale a figure in the computer and then you get them printed out by Shapeways.  Contact Panzer Vs Tanks and ask him about resizing, he's a pretty good guy. HTH


Some of our club members must be 1/43 scale rather than 1/40 then :}
Title: Re: Lost on Scale
Post by: FrozenRabbit471 on April 20, 2017, 06:49:04 pm
for a newbee  it can be a little confusing. but hey, that's what we're all here for. I hope. lol
Title: Re: Lost on Scale
Post by: T33cno on April 20, 2017, 07:38:17 pm
There are a number of sellers publishing incorrect details


billings . com say 1:75 scale


http://www.billingboats.com/da/4/2/0/boats/the-expert/Page-1.html?lang=da&limit=6&limitstart=6
Title: Re: Lost on Scale
Post by: T33cno on April 20, 2017, 07:40:36 pm
This may be most useful  :-))


http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,49380.0.html
Title: Re: Lost on Scale
Post by: FrozenRabbit471 on April 20, 2017, 08:01:26 pm
awesome info. thank you very much. I'm buying the boat tomorrow. I nervous! haha
Title: Re: Lost on Scale
Post by: FrozenRabbit471 on April 20, 2017, 08:03:11 pm
That link is supposedly the American link. Crazy that the scale is different {:-{
Title: Re: Lost on Scale
Post by: T33cno on April 20, 2017, 08:51:09 pm
awesome info. thank you very much. I'm buying the boat tomorrow. I nervous! haha


I nearly bought one myself but already have a smit Rotterdam underway before I was bitten by 1:32 scale  {-)

Title: Re: Lost on Scale
Post by: T33cno on April 20, 2017, 08:52:48 pm
U.K. Seller states 1:75 also
http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/billing-boats-fairmount-alpine.html
Title: Re: Lost on Scale
Post by: FrozenRabbit471 on April 20, 2017, 09:01:59 pm
weird. I was just going by http://billingboats-direct.com/estore/product_info.php/billing-boats-b506-fairmount-alpine-tug-model-boat-fittings-p-506?language=en (http://billingboats-direct.com/estore/product_info.php/billing-boats-b506-fairmount-alpine-tug-model-boat-fittings-p-506?language=en)
my bad
Title: Re: Lost on Scale
Post by: T33cno on April 20, 2017, 09:11:45 pm
In my experience I would not buy from him. I ordered in December and wasted two weeks before finding he had no  stock.




This vid gives a good impression of the size


https://youtu.be/gTOR6DRV8hs
Title: Re: Lost on Scale
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 21, 2017, 12:38:13 am
If in doubt, find out how big the real vessel is and divide by the models length. Fairmount Alpine 75 metres x 18 metres beam. The model is, I believe 1 metre long...I shall leave the maths problem to greater minds than mine %)
Title: Re: Lost on Scale
Post by: TailUK on April 21, 2017, 03:10:34 pm

unbuiltnautilus is absolutely right, the real boat is 75 metres long and if the model is 1 metre long it means the model is 1/75th scale not 1/40th.
The good news is that a 1/72nd scale figures would look ok on the model as the discrepancy between scales decreases as the scale get smaller; for example,  the difference in height for an average human would be 4mm between 1/40th and 1/43rd scale whereas between 1/72nd an 1/75th scale it would only be 1mm.
There are a lot of good figures out there to 1/72nd.  My favourite for modern civilian workers would be the Airfix U.S.A.A.F. Personnel set which has a lot of guys in overall in working poses.  Preiser do a railway workers set but I find Preiser figure to be expensive. 
I'm willing to bet you'll find a lot of figure in this scale on Ebay.