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Title: Spot the mistake
Post by: T33cno on June 30, 2017, 08:00:17 pm
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Title: Re: Spot the mistake
Post by: T33cno on June 30, 2017, 10:09:32 pm
Ok so there's an air of non committal  {-)
Male and female are dictated by the electrical contact NOT the insulating material. So the XT60 is FEMALE .
Google will confirm in Abundance ! So why is a prominent outlet getting it wrong and not just with the XT60
Title: Re: Spot the mistake
Post by: T33cno on June 30, 2017, 10:12:39 pm
Correct :-))

Title: Re: Spot the mistake
Post by: kinmel on June 30, 2017, 10:39:30 pm
This is a long standing argument that is never going to be resolved.

It is not just one retailer that differs from your description.

Lots of respectable retailers say your way and plenty of other equally responsible retailers such as Component Shop say the opposite.

As long as the "power out" connector from the battery or device is your "Female", it really doesn't matter what what name is given.






Title: Re: Spot the mistake
Post by: Jerry C on July 01, 2017, 08:49:18 am
Electrical hermaphroditism maybe???
Jerry.
Title: Re: Spot the mistake
Post by: T33cno on July 01, 2017, 09:19:31 am
Electrically the female is always the live feed that cannot be touched with a finger
In the case of the first incorrect picture this would be potentially hazardous
Safety and convention rule


This is why you don't have pins sticking out of a socket


If you google XT60 male and female the majority get it right

  https://www.dpcav.com/xcart/XT60-Connector.html (https://www.dpcav.com/xcart/XT60-Connector.html)


 https://hobbyking.com/en_us/male-xt60-connectors-5pcs-bag-genuine.html?___store=en_us (https://hobbyking.com/en_us/male-xt60-connectors-5pcs-bag-genuine.html?___store=en_us)


EDIT
However tamiya really are a fly in the ointment  {-)  although their pins are recessed a long way and out of touch
Title: Re: Spot the mistake
Post by: malcolmfrary on July 01, 2017, 09:39:39 am
This is a long standing argument that is never going to be resolved.

It is not just one retailer that differs from your description.

Lots of respectable retailers say your way and plenty of other equally responsible retailers such as Component Shop say the opposite.

As long as the "power out" connector from the battery or device is your "Female", it really doesn't matter what what name is given.
When remote sellers insist on getting it wrong, they will inevitably sell the wrong item to customers, who will then be motivated to shop elsewhere.  It really does matter, the root of the problem goes back to the safety brigade who insisted that pins should be at least as shrouded as everything else, followed by Tamiya discovering that either pins or sockets could fit into either of their shrouds.  JST don't help, either.  Properly, its the pins that count, not the cover.
Title: Re: Spot the mistake
Post by: T33cno on July 01, 2017, 09:42:00 am
"its the pins that count, not the cover." :-))


Fortunately in the first instance the seller attaches a picture to each incorrect description so I've simply ordered by the picture only
Title: Re: Spot the mistake
Post by: T33cno on July 01, 2017, 09:53:00 am
The manufacturer is complicit in ambiguity too and leaves users to rely on convention or personal choice  ;D
(http://www.xxl-modellbau.de/abbildungen/stecker_kabel/goldkontakte/xt60/xt60_amass_test1.jpg)


Title: Re: Spot the mistake
Post by: aeronut on July 02, 2017, 11:56:23 am
I feel a lot of the popular misunderstandings about which is which stem from the use of the term 'plug'.  To the man in the street, a plug has pins and that's generally assumed to be of male gender.
Title: Re: Spot the mistake
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on July 02, 2017, 10:20:08 pm
I feel a lot of the popular misunderstandings about which is which stem from the use of the term 'plug'.  To the man in the street, a plug has pins and that's generally assumed to be of male gender.

That is also my understanding here in Oz.

Sockets are female and plugs are male. If you are in doubt think of the male female/male anatomy to determine wether it is a male or female connection.
Male connections have pins, protrusions, to fit into corresponding female receptors.

As always exceptions, what about combined male female connector one pin male the other female.  O0 O0 %% %%
Title: Re: Spot the mistake
Post by: T33cno on July 02, 2017, 10:26:33 pm
The confusion occurs because some female pins are housed in a male plastic housing that plugs into a female plastic housing with male pins.
The convention is that electrical contacts over rule all else BUT clearly sellers don't grasp that and Tamiya cock it up completely.
In the case of the XT60 it would seem that the Component shop in particular is responsible for almost all incorrect pictures on google. Nearly all if not everyone else get it right.


Edit IMHO
Title: Re: Spot the mistake
Post by: T33cno on July 02, 2017, 10:32:37 pm
Great replies everyone BTW  :-))