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Title: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on July 23, 2017, 04:24:55 pm
Hi guys


Tomorrow I go for my first job interview in over 14 years and what I'm in for is a bit of grilling on my knowledge and experience but for most of the day I'll have to prove myself in the physical job ensuring I'm worthy of wearing the special black overalls... but it'll be worth it because...






































I'm being considered to work on these beauties!


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Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Bob K on July 23, 2017, 04:27:52 pm
O.M.G. !!!!  Really ?   That would be a totally awesome position to achieve.  Our fingers crossed for tomorrow  :-))
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: gingyer on July 23, 2017, 04:30:57 pm
Good luck nick
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on July 23, 2017, 04:44:00 pm
Thanks guys


I'm in as much shock when I received the interview request earlier this week! The weird things is that I was contacted by the management not by myself so it looks like my hard work on my current squadron has been noticed. Finger crossed  ;)
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: BFSMP on July 23, 2017, 05:02:50 pm

what a fantastic opportunity. All the best and good luck young man.........


hope it all goes exceptionally well for you.


Jim.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: ballastanksian on July 23, 2017, 05:12:36 pm
Good luck Nick, the interview alone is well deserved.

Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: dougal99 on July 23, 2017, 06:03:14 pm
Well they do say never volunteer. It's your modelling skills they are after I bet  :}   Very best of luck, though you won't need it.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on July 23, 2017, 06:07:51 pm
I certainly am looking forward to the day, even if I don't get the job at least I've got the memory of working on the BBMF for a day!
I'll report back tomorrow evening on my experience! :-))
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Jonty on July 23, 2017, 06:11:38 pm
  What an opportunity! Best of luck.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: tonyH on July 23, 2017, 06:23:01 pm
What a wonderful opportunity Nick. All the best of good fortune for the day!

May the mayhem force be with you :-))
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: jimmy2310 on July 23, 2017, 06:34:11 pm
rafl,

you jammy bu**er, best of luck mate.
I'll keep everything crossed for you,let us know how you get on.

Jimmy
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Firefly on July 23, 2017, 07:39:02 pm
 I visited BBMF last year, a great bunch of guys demonstrating outstanding traditional aircraft engineering skills.  However, it seemed that lack of funding was having an impact as one of the Chipmunks had been offline for months waiting for the Gypsy Major engine to be overhauled and returned with a similar story on the Dakota's starboard engine.  No doubt you will pick up on all of that when you get to BBMF tomorrow.  Good luck with the interviews !! Mick
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Shipmate60 on July 24, 2017, 12:26:33 am
Bringing back memories I used to Dyno Gypsy Majors oh yes and a good few Merlins too.


Bob
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on July 25, 2017, 09:11:10 am
Well what a day!


I don't think the BBMF had seen an engineer so wanting the job as me, apart from getting there an hour early, I didn't leave until 5:30pm! I recognised some of the well played tricks to see if you're really interested in the job not just the posting to Coningsby, this was done by asking if I'd like to get on the road at 3:30pm to avoid traffic or would I like to help polish the Lancaster. Needless to say my words were muffled as I legged it back into the hangar with my cloth in hand and spent the next two hours rubbing the weekends dirt off the airframe.
I had the fantastic job of working on the PRXIX Spitfire's Griffon engine removing the reduction gear, haven't had so much fun in the job for years.
Spoke to their Warrant Officer, Chief, Trade Managers, and most of the 25 techies about their time and what it was really like. One thing that did surprise me was the question' do you like flying?' rapidly followed by 'can you swim?'. When I said I was fine with both the WO said that the previous techies and other applicants for the post in the past had said no to both! He seemed very relieved that was happy flying and could swim!
I was a bit naughty and asked about my rival to the current job and they all answered that he was ' not memorable ' which really surprised me.
So fingers crossed I'll find out if I've been successful in the next couple of months. :-))

Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Colin Bishop on July 25, 2017, 09:21:04 am
Fingers and everything else crossed for you Nick.

Colin
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: ballastanksian on July 25, 2017, 09:51:28 am
The thing is Nick, you have a passion for your occupation and not just a need to earn a salary. Its like Living to eat as opposed to Eating to live. They get many people who are profficient but do not appreciate the opportunity whereas you have an interest in Military history and also are profficient, so they will be getting a well rounded Techie (all being well).

The salary is the icing on the cake. I think we are as excited as you are Nick  :}
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: tigertiger on July 25, 2017, 10:26:03 am
Good luck, its a great opportunity.  :-)) :-))  I am no Air Tech, but it is the kind of job that many of us on here would give our right arm for.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: imsinking on July 25, 2017, 10:44:09 am
Hmm, good job it's not IKEA . . . .


(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/922/gCU6GB.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pmgCU6GBj)


Bill  %%
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Bob K on July 25, 2017, 10:47:34 am
With these precious aircraft they will be looking not just for technical ability but total enthusiasm for the work.  I am sure you showed both.  How could they fail to welcome you with open arms.  People with your skills, historical military knowledge, and obvious dedication must be as rare as hen's teeth.   Even more fun than building awesome model boats, AND you get paid for it.   

I am SO green with envy that you got to polish a Lancaster.   
No need to cross fingers.  They'd be daft not to sign you up.   :-))
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Shipmate60 on July 25, 2017, 04:56:05 pm
No worries Nick, the job is yours, (well it would be if I was interviewing!!)


Bob
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: gingyer on July 25, 2017, 06:48:44 pm
Nick,
If you need someone to help carry you tools around the hanger I'm available to assist,
I have my own MOD90 too so no need to get escorted about base  :-))   :D {-) {-)
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Beagle1831 on July 25, 2017, 09:10:54 pm
Fingers, toes, everything crossed for you Nick! Good Luck, what a fantastic job!
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on July 26, 2017, 12:35:13 pm
Thanks everyone for the support, now begins the long wait to find out if I was successful  :-))
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on July 26, 2017, 01:05:37 pm
 
Did you bring it up in conversation, that your middle name is Bert but everyone calls you Biggles!   :-))
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on July 26, 2017, 01:13:37 pm
 {-)


Strangely enough I didn't!
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on July 26, 2017, 02:19:22 pm
 
.... anything about the Nazi Hun?!
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on July 26, 2017, 02:40:07 pm
No signs of the enemy yet! :D
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on July 26, 2017, 03:10:32 pm
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Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: steamboatmodel on July 26, 2017, 04:46:34 pm


Did you bring it up in conversation, that your middle name is Bert but everyone calls you Biggles!   :-))
Had to look up "Biggles"
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: derekwarner on July 26, 2017, 10:35:42 pm
Morning Nick.....I understand apples must be apples.....& sometimes the wheels may turn slowly

In January 1982 I had my first interview with our Australian Department of Defence....[same as your MofD I suppose....] for a role as a Grade II Engineering Foreman for Above Water Weapons at our Garden Island Naval Dockyard.......in October 1982 it appeared that all of my background security  :police: was OK and was invited for a second interview

In February 1983 I attended a third interview and was assured my appointment would be ratified by our DofD  in Canberra within weeks O0

On the 28th of February 1984, I attended for my first day of work at GID..................

Derek


 
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on July 26, 2017, 11:48:24 pm
 :o :o :o

Struth that was flaming quick  %) %) %)

Obviously not too many pentuplicate forms etc etc O0 O0
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: derekwarner on July 27, 2017, 12:03:32 am
Obviously they made a bad decision  {-) as in 1986....the said Foreman created history when he was charged with causing industrial disruption by strike action of all union workers at GID....not once....no....but twice

Bob Hawke was our PM.....& Kim Beazley the Minister for Defence..it was rumoured that my official photograph was seen with VODO pins on Kim's office wall  O0

Derek
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on July 27, 2017, 09:50:14 am
Had to look up "Biggles"


One of our best fictional pilots, historically accurate but all his adventures happened to individuals. If you ever have the chance to read Biggles and the Cruise of the Condor, and then read Clive Cussler's Inca Gold you'll spot some close similarities between books. Obviously Clive Cussler was a fan of Biggles!


My job however will be closer to Flight Sergeant Smyth's role in the books. Trying to keep the aircraft flying!
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on July 27, 2017, 10:42:16 am
One of our best fictional pilots, historically accurate but all his adventures happened to individuals.

Did not know that!   :o
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on July 27, 2017, 11:01:02 am
There is another similar trilogy of books called 'The Bright Blue Sky" which follows a pilot from 1913 to his retirement in 1945. In Biggles style all the adventures happen to this one pilot as he grows up, develops his skills and finds love. After a while you recognise the characters in RAF history just with different names!


Returning to Biggles, at the front of each Biggles book the author W.E. Johns explains the history of the RFC then RAF in relation to his creation of Biggles and his pals.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Klunk on July 27, 2017, 05:28:41 pm

Quote
My job however will be closer to Flight Sergeant Smyth's role in the books. Trying to keep the aircraft flying!


Nick, i knew you would be joining me!!! now look up catch the pidgeon and the character Klunk!!!
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Jerry C on July 27, 2017, 06:09:56 pm
 Biggles Flies Undone.
Jerry.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on August 05, 2017, 08:38:35 am
Well, I don't know how to say this...


On Thursday I was informed that I was selected for the job as NCO Mechanical BBMF and the Manning Section of the RAF sent a request of change of posting to the Tornado Manning Section informing them of their decision to post me into the job.


But here is the biggest kick to the delicate part of the anatomy...


An hour later I was informed that Tornado Manning had declined the transfer of posting telling me and RAF Manning that they couldn't replace me as there was no one available with the same authorisations and qualifications as me. Whilst this can be considered a compliment that I'm irreplaceable but it's really annoyed me that my dream posting is out of reach until Tornado has retired and even then might not be available in my career in my current role again. >:-o
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Shipmate60 on August 05, 2017, 09:04:07 am
So sorry to hear that Nick.
A very shortsighted decision.


Bob
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Klunk on August 05, 2017, 09:10:28 am
Gutted for you mate. Been there seen that in my career.  Always been good enough to train the managers up (6 months each) but was never allowed to become a manager. In the end i stopped trying and then got pulled in HR for it. No pleasing some people!
Hopefully it will come around again and next time you will be in.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: FsASTSyd1 on August 05, 2017, 09:14:22 am
Shortage of joined up thinking again Nick, you might have thought that any problem on those lines might have been thought of before an interview was mentioned to you. But strange are the ways of the Forces, For years I had worked on Canberra, Valiant and Victors and even a Hastings, then found myself lined up with dozens of others to get a certificate to do the same job, signed of course by somebody who had never touched an aircraft. You know it makes sense!!!!
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 05, 2017, 10:06:26 am
Rotten luck Nick, really sorry to hear that. Having the opportunity dangled in front of you and then snatched away. Frustration isn't the word.

I hope you were able to make it clear how you felt about it (within the bounds of discipline.)

Colin
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Jerry C on August 05, 2017, 12:12:52 pm
Also gutted. Par for the course though. I was talking to female RAF bus driver in Mount Pleasant. I asked if she started on jeeps and worked her way up to heavy transport. She looked at me as if I was simple. She said she'd always be a bus driver. I thought how sad.
Jerry.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Bob K on August 05, 2017, 12:16:35 pm
That is so sad Nick.  I feel devastated for you.

At least one glimmer of positiveness.  You now have it officially in writing that you are not only superb at your job, but have now been promoted to indispensable.

What you are doing is vitally important, considering it is about an active conflict zone.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: TheLongBuild on August 05, 2017, 12:41:13 pm

Well, I don't know how to say this...


On Thursday I was informed that I was selected for the job as NCO Mechanical BBMF and the Manning Section of the RAF sent a request of change of posting to the Tornado Manning Section informing them of their decision to post me into the job.


But here is the biggest kick to the delicate part of the anatomy...


An hour later I was informed that Tornado Manning had declined the transfer of posting telling me and RAF Manning that they couldn't replace me as there was no one available with the same authorisations and qualifications as me. Whilst this can be considered a compliment that I'm irreplaceable but it's really annoyed me that my dream posting is out of reach until Tornado has retired and even then might not be available in my career in my current role again. >:-o


How can they refuse ? is it legal ?.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on August 05, 2017, 07:41:21 pm
 
Gutted for ya Nick!  Can you contest it, or is that it?
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on August 05, 2017, 07:52:22 pm
Thanks for the supporting words


Absolutely gutted over the events this week but at least I got to work on a Spitfire XIX and the Lancaster for a day. They've promised me a preferential posting when the squadron disbands in March 2019 which I'm insisting on being written and signed by the current Manning staff so I've got a legally binding agreement.
Unfortunately their decision is legal as its military and you go where they want you to go if you're needed the most. I'm currently on a front line active squadron (just watch the news and you'll see the mention of Tornado bombers all the time when it's allowed to be mentioned anyway!) and BBMF is a second line active flight for promotional and historical events. My WO is absolutely annoyed, and understandably so, as he was the one who got me on to the interview very quickly and he was very sincere when he called me into the office that he wouldn't let it be forgotten by the Tornado Manning staff.
It's something that I will never forgive the RAF for but I understand their decision whether I like it or not!
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Bob K on August 05, 2017, 08:27:38 pm
I am still devastated for you, but it appears that without your expertise this essential front line active squadron may not be as effective as it needs to be for the vital role in which it is engaged.  Take some comfort in that please.

At least you got to work on a Lancaster and Spitfire for a day, something the rest of us can only dream of.

It will happen, with patience.  I am sure of it.  Perhaps a promotion may be in order, under the circumstances?
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on August 05, 2017, 08:39:34 pm
That's thirteen years of Tornado experience for you!
Promotion...ummm...might be possible for acting Sgt but once again chances are not the best. Hopefully with my job role on the next exercise in Sardinia as Line Controller which is traditionally a Sgt's position perhaps but I'm not holding my breath.
That is, as we say in the RAF, life in a blue suit!
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: SailorGreg on August 05, 2017, 09:44:24 pm
 >>:-( <:(


It''s never over til the fat lady hums the Dambuster March. A setback but not a disaster.


But I am still gutted for you.  {:-{
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: ballastanksian on August 07, 2017, 08:20:36 pm
 >:-o >:-o >:-o >:-o >:-o >:-o >:-o Well, I hope the 'Acting' is removed from your rank title and you get the full set of stripes and extra pay Nick.

Here's to that preferrential posting bearing fruit.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: carlmt on August 08, 2017, 04:52:31 pm
I was sorry to read about the way that Manning treated you Nick, but as has been mentioned, current requirements are obviously dictating their thinking.  A bit mean to dangle the carrot like that, but at least now they know you and your capabilities at BBMF.

Will this 'preferred posting' be able to include the BBMF?
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: carlmt on August 16, 2017, 04:28:21 pm
Your handiwork Nick  {-) {-) {-)

"A routine engine inspection has highlighted an issue requiring more technical advice. Until this advice is received BBMF will not be flying"

https://twitter.com/RAFBBMF/status/897810106569588737?s=04

Or are you now waiting upon the call......................  :-)) :-))
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on August 16, 2017, 04:45:27 pm
It's the first I've heard about this, sounds like something about the merlin engines. I had a play with a griffon so I know it wasn't me...honest guv!


Going back to your earlier post, I don't know what they consider to be a preferential posting either!
The annoying thing is that there are masses of postings coming up that sound interesting but none of us can get them due to Manning levels on Tornado being critical for the next 18 months until retirement.


No idea if I'll get my acting third (Stripe) but speaking to my reporting officer who writes my yearly report (SJAR), or if you're old enough like me a 6000!, I'm doing very well exceeding their expectations of me so who knows.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: SailorGreg on August 16, 2017, 05:36:35 pm
Your handiwork Nick  {-) {-) {-)

"A routine engine inspection has highlighted an issue requiring more technical advice. Until this advice is received BBMF will not be flying"

https://twitter.com/RAFBBMF/status/897810106569588737?s=04 (https://twitter.com/RAFBBMF/status/897810106569588737?s=04)

Or are you now waiting upon the call......................  :-)) :-))

Hmmm... "Sorry that page doesn't exist".  I'm not a Twitterer so maybe I need to register somewhere - or has it been taken away as a bit embarrassing?   :embarrassed:

If it's a Merlin issue, wouldn't that affect all the other engines?  There are a fair few Merlins flying around at the moment - one flew over me earlier today fixed firmly inside a Spitfire fuselage.  Will they all have to stop flying?  {:-{
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Netleyned on August 16, 2017, 06:15:45 pm
Problems with Miss Schillings Orifice maybe %%


Ned
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: ballastanksian on August 16, 2017, 09:26:58 pm
I say! Steady on old bean  :}
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: derekwarner on August 17, 2017, 01:05:37 am
Ned.....one could surmise that after years of use, particulate contamination in fuel could have caused erosion of the said orifice  :o...so as to negate the original function?.......... 'that Betty was certainly a clever cookie' :-))
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on August 17, 2017, 11:52:50 am
 

BBC:  Engine issue grounds Battle of Britain Memorial Flight planes  - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-40957271

 
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Netleyned on August 17, 2017, 03:12:48 pm
Ned.....one could surmise that after years of use, particulate contamination in fuel could have caused erosion of the said orifice  :o ...so as to negate the original function?.......... 'that Betty was certainly a clever cookie' :-))
Well read or well googled Derek
Seriously though, a lot of visitors to airshows will be
disappointed this month


Ned
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: ballastanksian on August 17, 2017, 09:07:11 pm
Very true, but as these are old (but cherished) birds, they need to be coddled otherwise they will get worn out and unflyable. Bovington had to stop running their Mk IV WW1 tank a few years back because the body had work hardened over the years of use and was cracking up. It's a shame in a way as they had refurbished the engine a few years previously with a new crankshaft etc.

But it goes to show that our working heritage is a finite article. Fingers crossed the issue will get sorted in a few weeks.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on September 07, 2018, 12:17:33 pm
 
Saw this Nick... thought of you!    :D

https://www.theworks.co.uk/p/transport-books/haynes-raf-typhoon---owners-workshop-manual/9780857330758?wgu=5922_116019_15363189581336_e88bf3180f
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Klunk on September 19, 2018, 06:02:18 am
no news
...


perhaps he has been eaten!
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on September 19, 2018, 06:37:00 pm
no news
...


perhaps he has been eaten!


Nah not eaten, just revising for two exams in Maths and Physics on Monday! I passed the first interview on the Monday and last Thursday I was contacted to come for the second interview but for this Monday! When I received the confirming email it included a ‘by-the-way’ message of you will need to carry out a Maths and Physics exam too! Luckily it’s GCSE level but trying to remember something you did 17 years ago... %)
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: SteamboatPhil on September 19, 2018, 08:46:21 pm
Good luck ( I cant remember what I did yesterday)  :-))
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on September 19, 2018, 08:49:00 pm
Cheers Phil :-))


I’ve also got to draw up a CV too, god only knows why, they probably know more about me than I do!
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Colin Bishop on September 19, 2018, 08:50:34 pm
Self knowledge Nick!
Colin
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on September 19, 2018, 09:07:16 pm
Lets hope that what I remember matches what they remember!
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Shipmate60 on September 19, 2018, 09:07:34 pm
You will be fine Nick.
You put your all into the things you do, not surprising older officers have noticed.


Bob
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on September 19, 2018, 09:17:28 pm
Oh dear! I hope they don’t remember everything! :embarrassed:
There are a couple of ‘incidents’ that I’d like to forget!


There are a couple of us going for the job roles from my current squadron and we are all in the same boat, haven’t had to do a maths or physics exam for almost 15 years and never had to write a CV. Should be interesting to see if we all get the jobs advertised.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Bob K on September 19, 2018, 10:16:31 pm
Best wishes Nick.  Hope all goes well for you   :-))
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on September 19, 2018, 10:23:02 pm
Thanks Bob :-))
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Stavros on September 19, 2018, 10:49:13 pm
you will be fine A walk in the park m8


Dave
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on September 19, 2018, 10:51:17 pm
Cheers Dave :-))
I’ll update you all on Tuesday after the interview.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: carlmt on September 19, 2018, 11:13:49 pm
Very best of luck Nick my friend!!! Not that you need luck - you will be fine  :-))


Like you, I havent had to write a CV in over 20 years.....I wouldnt know where to begin  {:-{


CT
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on September 19, 2018, 11:17:59 pm
Thanks Carl :-))


My friend Ivan and I are helping each other to sort out our CV’s, he is more worried than me about it even though he puts a brave face on. We are even lift sharing to Waddington to ensure we get there ok.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: BrianB6 on September 20, 2018, 12:28:59 am
Like you, I havent had to write a CV in over 20 years.....I wouldnt know where to begin  {:-{
CT
Look up how to write a CV on Google.   There are plenty of web sites that can help.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Onetenor on September 20, 2018, 12:44:19 am
If I had to do a cv now it would be a novel . You'll be OK  Nils bastardo carborundum =Don't let the ba----ds grind you down
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Klunk on September 20, 2018, 03:53:23 am
Nick, write it in crayon, at least it will get noticed! Also keep it short and sweet. Prefrably write it in your own handwriting. no more han 2 sides. Only go back 10 years unless it is critical to the job. (ie relevant qualification) Get 2 good references, 1 from your current employer, 1 from outside. NO YOUTUBE REFERENCES! OR URL's
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: tigertiger on September 20, 2018, 05:05:40 am
For CVs there may be a preferred format with the RAF. Maybe ask a couple of officers if that is the case.
It also helps if you CV is given with an accompanying letter, even if not asked for. The letter lets you put down in words (slow time) some of the other reasons why you should be considered. It also shows that you are a person who has gone the extra mile to make the right impression. The exception to this is if they specifically say, 'No covering letter'.


When you do a CV tailor it to the role you are applying for. Emphasize areas of expertise they will be looking for. If you are not sure, have a look at the job advert, any published job description, and anything that might have been mentioned if you have spoken to them already. For most internal jobs the interview is the decider, but the CV fills in any gaps as well as providing a richer picture of the candidate; and the CV sometimes tips the balance between two top candidates.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Firefly on September 20, 2018, 10:38:51 am

Nick,

I will add my best wishes for every success in the forthcoming interview and tests.  However, I suspect that you are better prepared than you might think !!


Mick
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Beagle1831 on September 20, 2018, 11:19:52 am
Good Luck Nick!


Tigertiger's advice on CV preparation is spot on.


Similar advice for interview prep - if there is a job description or specification this can really help. And don't be afraid to speak about your own strengths and achievements once you're in the room!


You'll do great!
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Onetenor on September 23, 2018, 12:47:29 am
{-)


Strangely enough I didn't!


SHAME {-) ;D  Did you  save the cloth ?  could have gone well on Flea bay LOL. Well done and I bet I'm as impatient as you are for the result.  P.S.I don't suppose you found out what the Merlins problem was/is ? :-))



Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: roycv on September 23, 2018, 11:54:41 am
Hi many years ago (25) my daughter went for a job in HR she said afterwards it might be above her capability.  I said write and tell them you enjoyed the interview and she put in a couple of extra points not covered before. 
She posted the letter and 5 days later a job offer came for an assistant to the one she applied for.  They added no one had ever written to them before after an interview and they were impressed.

Always pays to do the someting extra or different assuming it is relevant.
But good luck,
kind regards
Roy
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on September 25, 2018, 10:33:42 am
Well ummm...


I experienced what the people on Dragon’s Den or The Apprentice go through when interrogated by the Dragons or Alan Sugar.
The maths and physics exam- no problem
Interview lasted 40 minutes ranging from tell us more about yourself to have you done anything that made you unpopular.
I spoke to the other six interviewees who were being tested too and we all agreed that we don’t know if we did a good job or not- won’t get any feedback until mid November when we find out who got the jobs.
Even my Chief who applied for a job there said it was quite an unpleasant experience! :o
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Bob K on September 25, 2018, 11:12:43 am
Good luck Nick.  We will be keeping our fingers crossed for you   :-))

Now, if they'd made the test easier by asking you to strip and rebuild a Tornado (blindfolded) that could have clinched it   %%
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on September 25, 2018, 11:18:03 am

Good luck Nick.  We will be keeping our fingers crossed for you   :-))

Now, if they'd made the test easier by asking you to strip and rebuild a Tornado (blindfolded) that could have clinched it   %%
Thanks Bob :-))
It was completely opposite end of the spectrum compared to the BBMF interview which was enjoyable and relatively relaxing but this one was continuous questions by four SNCOs over a wide range of topics and what would I do in this situation.
I hope I get the job as it sounds fantastic once the training is complete.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Howard on September 25, 2018, 01:56:36 pm

Nick I had my first job Interview in 41years the other month  and got the job even when I said what's a CV so good luck am 64 years old and only ever had five jobs since leaving school  and been lucky only had 5weeks on the dole in 58yrs Nick so good luck am sure you will walk it.
 
                                Regards Howard.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Howard on September 25, 2018, 01:58:32 pm

I mean 48years how did I get that job  {-) .
    Regards Howard.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: dougal99 on September 25, 2018, 02:00:22 pm
Were you trying out for chief accountant  %% %% %% %% %% %%
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Netleyned on September 25, 2018, 02:26:42 pm
CEO
North Lincs Council :D :D :D


Ned
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Howard on September 25, 2018, 08:17:23 pm

Ned young man I live in LINCOLNSHIRE now a real yellow belly only three miles in but in.


 Regards Howard.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: roycv on September 26, 2018, 12:50:22 pm
Not exactly an interview more a royal command.  If I remember correctly it went a bit like this.
 
You are commanded this day forth to take thee hence as desired in this directive and await thine instructions.  Then proceed ye thus to yonder place where awaits you thine duties until the day that cometh of thy release from this bondage. 
 
Ye shall strictly obey thy squire at penalty to thine self and attend ye thus to all duties that shall be desired.  Ye shall receive sustenance and lodging and small coin hence forward until thy entailment shall cease.
 
 At all time ye shall maintain and deport thyself in manner as prescribed by thy superiors on pain of strictures as desirous by thy superiors in accordance with rules and regulations decreed by thy Monarch.
 
So I came to join the RAF.  Well it was a while back now, I seem to remember I had many superiors.  Small coin was £1.30 per week it is not much now and was'nt much then either.

 
Regards
 Roy
 

 
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on December 28, 2018, 01:06:10 pm
 
Hey Nick,

What happened, are you still gainfully defending the nation?

M
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on December 28, 2018, 02:07:29 pm

Hey Nick,

What happened, are you still gainfully defending the nation?

M

Quote


He's opened up an Ebay shop selling Tonka Tatt %%


Ned




Might have to at this rate! {-)


I had ‘the’ email informing me that I was not successful at this time but they would like to thank me for allowing them to waste my time!
There was supposed to be 20 jobs which we later found out (two weeks ago) that in reality there was only 6 in my trade, three of which were given to newly promoted corporals on their own squadron. >>:-(
So I’m still looking for possible postings before they just chuck me in job they want me to do instead of something I’d enjoy. I have been to an interview at the beginning of December but I’m waiting for the results before the bad news comes again! <*<
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on January 16, 2019, 11:22:01 pm
Well I got my posting today, it was my second preference but at least it was one of my options instead of something RAF Manning wants.


I’m off to Brize Norton working on Hercules or C-130J or Fat Alberts, looks to be a pretty decent squadron with plenty of opportunities. Would have loved to got BBMF but at least the chap who did get it was in the same boat as me with regards to history so I’ll apply again when the position is announced again as the Flight is getting bigger going from 28 to 35 people over the next few years. :-))
At least I can carry on as normal.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: coch y bonddu on January 16, 2019, 11:28:19 pm
Congrats at least you got a posting and not a letter with Dear Mr  O0 O0 O0 {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)




Dave
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 16, 2019, 11:32:04 pm
 
Excellent Nick!

Love those Hercky birds!

..... let me know when you can get me a free ride!  :-))
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: ballastanksian on January 16, 2019, 11:37:59 pm
Yeah. They used to fly a pair right over my workshop in West Sussex and down low as well! What the residents of Fontwell thought of it I don't know, but it was far cooler to see and feel than most other things :O) Good for you Nick, just watch out for the spinny sharp things in front of the engines  :}
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on January 16, 2019, 11:42:19 pm
Thanks Dave, Martin, Ian


I’m really looking forward to it, Tornado has been fun, and I’ll be at Marham for the final flight, just had the 9 Squadron Disbandment Dinner and we officially disband on March 14, 12:30pm. I start my new job on the Hercs from March 25. It means that I carry on as normal with less Shader trips than I have experienced in the last two years. :-))  Halfway there if I want BBMF, got propellers! O0
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: roycv on January 17, 2019, 08:47:40 am
Hi Nick, when I was a lad in the CCF we had a i week camp at RAF Marham, they had Washingtons then (B29s) most of us had flights in them.  No H & S then.
Good luck
Roy
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: tonyH on January 17, 2019, 09:17:11 am
Congrats Nick and be assured there are decent pubs and food around BN :-))
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: dougal99 on January 17, 2019, 10:20:33 am
Glad you got a posting you can live with, so many don't. Pity about BBF but BZN is an easier commute I think. All the best to you.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: SailorGreg on January 17, 2019, 05:32:56 pm
A good few years ago I crossed the Atlantic in the back of a Hercules, going to Florida via an overnight at Gander (in February!).  Not an experience I would rush to repeat.  Fine cargo plane, crappy airliner.  :}
Greg
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 17, 2019, 05:33:10 pm
Glad to hear you have got something you like Nick. Yes, some experience with infernal consumption engines and whirligigs could come in useful in the future. Meanwhile you have your writing career to pursue as a sideline. Most Model Boats contributors tend to be on the wrong side of 60 so some younger blood willing to prepare articles is definitely a very good thing.Colin
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: KitS on January 17, 2019, 07:23:19 pm
My youngest daughter was in the Tower at Brize for 3 yrs or so, it's a HUGE place for a RAF station, but that's 'cos the USAF had it in the 50s and flew B-36s, B-47s and B-52 from there!

Enjoy Oxfordshire Nick.  :-)
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on January 17, 2019, 09:23:52 pm
Thanks everyone


I’m basically going from end of the spectrum to the other with regards to aircraft- fast jets to large transports. We now have all four painted Tornados ready for the final flypast, a 9 Sqn jet with a bat, a 31 Sqn jet with a gold star, a Marham 100 anniversary jet, and the GR1 commemoration jet in wrap around green and grey camouflage. With fingers crossed they might fly together next week for the first time but knowing our luck... {-)
The move to Brize will be odd as I’ve spent over 14 years at Marham and I’ve only ever spent time at another station for a short time as part of a detachment. I’ll have to get used to a completely different station- it makes me feel like a LAC again!
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: gingyer on January 18, 2019, 04:21:43 pm
Just think Nick....
How many models can you get in a herc
Next time your overseas
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Shipmate60 on January 18, 2019, 05:22:01 pm
Nick,
Brize isn't too bad, lots to do on airfield and some quite decent pubs around.
Welcome to the depths of Oxfordshire and the M40 isn't that far away!!!


Bob
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: coch y bonddu on January 18, 2019, 06:43:52 pm
Oh and Nick if you get a jolly and fly down the Ogwen pass as they invariably do just give me a wave as you fly over Bethesda HA HA




Dave
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on January 26, 2019, 07:23:57 pm
Well we are in they final few flying days left of the RAF Tornado, there are probably less than 30 days left before the skies go quiet from the noise of RB199s.
Here is the practice pictures of the three newly painted end of era Tornados flying in formation together for the first time:


(https://i.ibb.co/3kxHMds/788-C3-BFA-FEF0-4-B14-86-B0-15-B15-CB45153.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3kxHMds)
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: furball on January 26, 2019, 07:42:01 pm
Do you know if any of them will be preserved?


Lance
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: raflaunches on January 26, 2019, 07:52:54 pm
I know there that 029 is at Duxford, about 10 went to DCAE Cosford for RAF training purposes and I’ve been told that the final few are going to some museums (don’t know which ones) and technical colleges. Some might become gate guardians but I know that the last few are being dismantled at Marham for road moves to their final destinations.
Title: Re: My First Job Interview in over 14 years!
Post by: Dave_S. on January 26, 2019, 09:47:27 pm
I live near Brize Norton so the Hercs (and others) fly over our house all the time. Good to know there's a conscientious modeller making sure nothing drops off and makes a hole in us!