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Title: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on March 13, 2018, 01:11:06 PM
Hi all i started this project last year, but was unable to get line drawings of the tug. I did manage to get a GA drawing from
Robert Allan. I had a hull that i cut up and tried to use sections along with quite a bit of guess work LOL, I am building her to a scale of 1/32 at least that bit will be right, she will be 41 inches long  and 14 inch beam. I was sent some photos of the Stevns Ocean a model built for Robert Allan, hopefully she might look like her when finished.
Here are photos of the plug so far.


Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Steve Mahoney on March 13, 2018, 08:28:05 PM
Don't take the GA as gospel. I have a couple from RA of the same boat and they are slightly different. Enough that a model made from each would have a different hull. Might just be an error or may be so that no-one can use a GA to make an accurate boat. And, no I'm no a conspiracy theorist.


Will be following this thread  with interest, always pick up a few tips from your builds.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on March 13, 2018, 09:23:28 PM
Steve looking at photos i have of the Stevns Arctic the GA drawings look the same vessel. I will also be making the Schottel drives for this vessel so its going to be quite a long build. 
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: 16-21 on March 13, 2018, 10:42:05 PM
Brian,


Iím looking forward to your build.  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on March 13, 2018, 11:03:22 PM
Brian,


Iím looking forward to your build.  :-))


Cheers, i hope i do it justice
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: 16-21 on March 13, 2018, 11:49:35 PM
Going by Craigsider and Maltby
We are all in for a treat.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on March 14, 2018, 02:46:44 PM
A small update on the plug, all sections filled in and filler added. The first filler has been sanded and a second coat has just been added. hopefully get a bit more sanding done today if the rain stops off.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on March 14, 2018, 06:25:58 PM
done some rubbing down this afternoon, next i will be working on the keel and the bow section.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on March 17, 2018, 02:50:16 PM
A bit done on the plug today, Keel done she is starting to take shape.

Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Fastfaz on March 17, 2018, 09:59:04 PM
She,s looking good! I really like the look of the tug but at 41 inches just too big for me if a 33/35 inch version was available I would definitely be interested. The size and weight of my Maltby hull was why I decided to cut n shut it.
    Keep the pics coming.
         Cheers,Pete
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on March 19, 2018, 12:52:37 PM
Unfortunately Pete i am building her to a scale of 1/32 and thats how she is 41 inches long LOL, I have seen some of the Maltby hulls that have been cut and shut  {-)  and i suppose it comes down to what your happy with.


 A bit work done on the bow and keel yesterday 
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on March 22, 2018, 08:44:01 PM
Done a bit work on the plug bow section over the last couple of days.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: ballastanksian on March 22, 2018, 11:23:31 PM
She's very shapely! Nice hull.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on March 23, 2018, 02:04:59 PM
She's very shapely! Nice hull.


Trying to get as much detail onto the plug, hopefully save having to alter the finished hull later  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: 16-21 on July 27, 2018, 10:16:09 PM
Hi Brian,
Any updates on your build?
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: derekwarner on July 28, 2018, 02:47:32 AM
Have never seen a length of steel bar wedged in a winch drum like this......downright dangerous.....just like leaving a lathe chuck key in the chuck  <*<
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 28, 2018, 07:27:03 AM
Hi Brian,
Any updates on your build?


HI batfish, not a lot of progress done, the better half decided she needed a new kitchen fitted and unfortunately that is the main priority at the moment, just about finished so back to the plug (unless she has something planned that i don't know about LOL)


Brian
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: 16-21 on July 28, 2018, 10:47:27 AM
Brian,

Good to hear you will be back on it soon.

I know that feeling with kitchens.
Someone up here has decided the same and we are half way through
Installation.


Adam



Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on September 26, 2018, 06:51:16 PM
Finally got back onto the Stevns Artic plug a lot of rubbing down, first coat of primer added today. A bit more rubbing down before she gets a few coats of paint then the fun will start, I have decided to have a go at making the mould. :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on September 27, 2018, 04:52:06 PM
Really pleased with the way this plug is starting to look, spent most of the day rubbing down with 400 wet & dry.

Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on September 27, 2018, 06:14:53 PM
Nice work Brian
Will there be any hulls for sale


Jason
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on September 27, 2018, 07:34:14 PM
Probably Ben it all depends on how my attempt at making the mould turns LOL  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on September 27, 2018, 07:46:32 PM
Probably Ben it all depends on how my attempt at making the mould turns LOL  :-))


Brian
Ill keep my fingers crossed for you am sure all will go well


Jason
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on September 28, 2018, 05:21:24 PM
Another day rubbing down
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on September 28, 2018, 07:10:06 PM
Just been looking at photos of the Maltby plug i made, I hope the paint job on the Arctic plug turns out as good.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Capt Podge on September 28, 2018, 07:20:23 PM
At first glance it looks like the bow on the Maltby plug  has been stoven in  :o
Second look shows its the reflection from the house  %% {-)


Looking forward to seeing your efforts bear fruit.


Regards,
Ray.

Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on September 28, 2018, 07:40:46 PM
At first glance it looks like the bow on the Maltby plug  has been stoven in  :o



just looked at the photo Ray never noticed the reflection before, :-)) i can honestly say the bow is not stoved in LOL
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on October 09, 2018, 07:57:52 PM
Not a lot done since my last post, cut and fitted the divider ready for the two part mould to be made.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on October 09, 2018, 08:12:27 PM
I will be making a pair of schottels for her once the hull is ready I did think about buying the schottels but at Ä550 each I changed my mind {-) I ordered two 80mm props from Simon at Protean Design today ready for the project 
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: derekwarner on October 09, 2018, 08:33:33 PM
That certainly is a great finish on the plug Chip  :-)) ....camera angles and reflections can play tricks on our minds...


BTW, I like the low profile wide racing style tires on the Trolley er' Table..... O0


Derek


Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on October 09, 2018, 10:52:09 PM



BTW, I like the low profile wide racing style tires on the Trolley er' Table..... O0


Derek




Don't tell the wife Derek, she doesn't know I use her dog grooming table  {-)
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on October 11, 2018, 05:38:37 PM
Just received the bevel gears I ordered for the shottels, starting to get the bits together ready for the build. They are not cheap at Ä27.50 a pair but they are very good quality.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on October 11, 2018, 05:43:19 PM
Hi Brian

Looking forward to seeing the drives what will be awesome with the 80mm props

What motors  will you be using to drive the Schottles

Jason
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on October 11, 2018, 06:31:02 PM
Hi Brian
Not sure why my text is so small :(( [size=78%] iv'e reported it to the mods am sure they will sort it when they have time [/size]


Jason
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Martin [Admin] on October 11, 2018, 06:52:37 PM
 
Fixed   :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on October 11, 2018, 07:05:51 PM

Fixed   :-))



Cheers Martin


Brian look forward to the next up date  :-)


Jason
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on October 11, 2018, 08:21:13 PM
Hi Brian

Looking forward to seeing the drives what will be awesome with the 80mm props

What motors  will you be using to drive the Schottles

Jason
I haven't given the motors much thought to be honest Jason, I might have a look at the ones sold by mobile marine models
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on October 11, 2018, 08:51:14 PM
Would 2500 rpm be too slow Brian?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-12V-Carbon-Brush-Motor-Reversible-2500RPM-60W-High-Power-Ball-Bearing-60-11mm/263906900708 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-12V-Carbon-Brush-Motor-Reversible-2500RPM-60W-High-Power-Ball-Bearing-60-11mm/263906900708)


Or these may be a bit too much power https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12-24V-150W-Large-Power-High-Speed-Brush-DC-Motor-CW-CCW-For-DIY-Generator/232845831552?var=532366715265
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on October 11, 2018, 09:36:51 PM
Hi Taranis, as i have said i haven't given the motors a lot of thought, after looking at the Mobile Marine Model motors, they will be to slow as i will be gearing the drives  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on October 11, 2018, 09:53:11 PM
Have a look at the large MFA units at component shop. I bought them to run the graupner schottels in the Maltby I will build eventually  :-))
Andy
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on October 11, 2018, 09:57:38 PM
8300 rpm
https://www.componentshop.co.uk/850-dc-motor-mounting-bracket.html (https://www.componentshop.co.uk/850-dc-motor-mounting-bracket.html)


Belt reduction drive available too I see
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on October 11, 2018, 10:49:48 PM
8300 rpm
https://www.componentshop.co.uk/850-dc-motor-mounting-bracket.html (https://www.componentshop.co.uk/850-dc-motor-mounting-bracket.html)


Belt reduction drive available too I see
these are the ones i fitted into my Maltby and she runs great  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on October 11, 2018, 10:51:07 PM
That's good to know thanks. I'm looking forwards to your solutions for this super tug  :-)
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Peter Fitness on October 12, 2018, 03:26:04 AM
Jason, preview your text before posting, or click "modify" immediately after posting and if the small text occurs again highlight the affected text then select a 10pt font from the drop down box marked "font size". It has happened to me, and others, several times.


Peter.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on October 12, 2018, 08:00:37 AM
Jason, preview your text before posting, or click "modify" immediately after posting and if the small text occurs again highlight the affected text then select a 10pt font from the drop down box marked "font size". It has happened to me, and others, several times.


Peter.




Thanks Peter


Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on October 18, 2018, 01:02:41 PM
Not a lot going on with the build at the moment, just recieved the brass i ordered so I have most of the bits and pieces i need to make a start on the schottels. I will have to get some alloy for the Kort but thats a bit further down the line, the 80mm props are ordered from
Simon (Protean Design)
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on October 18, 2018, 01:55:39 PM
Afternoon Brian
Looking forward to seeing your work


Jason
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on October 20, 2018, 08:18:25 AM
Afternoon Brian
Looking forward to seeing your work


Jason


Hi Jason the two schottels that i am going to make will be the same as the one in the link (hopefully LOL) These schottels look very good but unfortunately the cost is to much for me. I am keeping a check on what it costs me to build the units.


Schottel 80mm with drive and rotation mechanism (https://www.bauer-modelle.com/epages/Bauer_Uwe46269592.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Bauer_Uwe46269592/Products/4.9433)
Brian
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on October 20, 2018, 11:00:39 AM

Hi Jason the two schottels that i am going to make will be the same as the one in the link (hopefully LOL) These schottels look very good but unfortunately the cost is to much for me. I am keeping a check on what it costs me to build the units.


Schottel 80mm with drive and rotation mechanism (https://www.bauer-modelle.com/epages/Bauer_Uwe46269592.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Bauer_Uwe46269592/Products/4.9433)
Brian
Morning Brian
The drives in the link are awesome apart from the price but i guess a lot of hours go's in to making them.
I am watching mate for any update keep at it






Jason
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on October 22, 2018, 09:36:11 PM
Finally finished the rubbing down, next step the mould.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on October 22, 2018, 09:54:45 PM
Got a start turning the parts for the schottels today, long way to go with these LOL
I will be using M5 stainless steal for the shafts so i used a 4.5mm drill then an m5 reamer



Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on October 29, 2018, 08:52:44 PM
A bit more done on the Shottels,  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on October 29, 2018, 09:45:57 PM
I have had a few problems with my chest over the last few weeks so i have decided not to mess around with fibreglass for making the mould, Anth from Orion Mouldings is going to do the mould from my plug. I will post photos as soon as I have the first hull from the mould, i am sure the hull will be up to the normal high quality as alway  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on October 30, 2018, 07:46:46 AM
Morning Brian
Nice work on the drive unit parts please keep the pictures coming
All so looking forward to seeing a hull anth work is first class i have had a few hulls from him


Jason
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Brian60 on October 30, 2018, 07:48:37 AM
Machining looks superb, I really miss my lathe. Seeing this quality makes me seriously consider buying a new one.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on October 30, 2018, 08:06:45 AM
Morning Brian
Nice work on the drive unit parts please keep the pictures coming
All so looking forward to seeing a hull anth work is first class i have had a few hulls from him


Jason


He does good work Jason, this will be the fourth plug I have made that Anth has made the mould for  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on October 30, 2018, 08:39:25 AM
Machining looks superb, I really miss my lathe. Seeing this quality makes me seriously consider buying a new one.


I haven't done any turning for a while Brian my old lathe passed away LOL. When I decided to build the Stevns from scratch I new that a lathe would be needed so I had a look at the Warco Mini Lathe  I just missed the one that was sold on here a few weeks ago pity it was a good buy. The new lathe has its limitations but it has been OK up to know.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on October 30, 2018, 09:48:21 PM
The next part of the drive unit is the shottel rotation, the first photo shows the cog the way it was before cutting the small cog off.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on October 30, 2018, 09:57:21 PM
Then I turned two small brass inserts that will fit into the cogs, I made them a tight fit and will be using grub screws to secure them to the shottels
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Brian60 on October 31, 2018, 08:21:26 AM
Interesting answer to a problem with those inserts. You probably know that the gearwheels are made from a product called Delrin, like a type of nylon and impossible to bond to anything else - it has non stick properties similar to Teflon in frying pans. These fiendish far easters who supply them for a variety of purposes don't like to make life easy for modellers  :}
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on October 31, 2018, 03:57:17 PM
Just recieved the bevel gears that i ordered, really pleased with the quality   :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on October 31, 2018, 05:38:28 PM
Evening Brian
They do look top quality mate
 can you let us no where you bought them please


Jason


Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on October 31, 2018, 08:52:58 PM
No prob Jason


https://www.conrad-electronic.co.uk (https://www.conrad-electronic.co.uk)
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on October 31, 2018, 09:08:52 PM
Cheers Brian
I used them for bevel gear for my drive units
Looking forward to more updates on your drives


Jason
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on November 01, 2018, 09:46:53 PM
They look good Jason I have built the same type for Bow thrusters  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on November 01, 2018, 10:14:33 PM
Started on the bottom section of the Shottels, a few more photos showing the progress.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on November 01, 2018, 10:39:07 PM
quite pleased the way they are coming along starting to look like shottels, still a lot to do yet.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on November 02, 2018, 04:27:38 PM
Here is a photo of the latest update on the plug, this is the first half of the mould so far.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on November 02, 2018, 05:02:02 PM
Another photo of the mould with a heavier matt applied
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on November 02, 2018, 06:12:10 PM
Evening Brian
All coming together please  keep posting  the pictures
Brian can i ask what material you will be using for  korts nozzles   :-)


Jason
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on November 02, 2018, 06:54:20 PM
Evening Brian
All coming together please  keep posting  the pictures
Brian can i ask what material you will be using for  korts nozzles   :-)


Jason


I am hoping to use Alloy tube Jason, I have ordered 80mm props from Prop Shop so i need 100mm diameter with hopefully a 8mm or 10mm wall thickness to be able to shape them on the lathe. I will need about 100mm in length to make the two korts, I did find a company that supplied the diameter that i needed but the wall thickness was only 3.2mm and at £43 for 100mm no thank you LOL
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on November 02, 2018, 07:19:22 PM

I am hoping to use Alloy tube Jason, I have ordered 80mm props from Prop Shop so i need 100mm diameter with hopefully a 8mm or 10mm wall thickness to be able to shape them on the lathe. I will need about 100mm in length to make the two korts, I did find a company that supplied the diameter that i needed but the wall thickness was only 3.2mm and at £43 for 100mm no thank you LOL
Thanks for the info Brian
Just had a look on ebay


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/aluminium-round-bar-6082-21-4-57-15mm-to-4-101-6mm-free-cutting-and-P-P/191936260447?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122125356%26meid%3D47699844c2d44797a5c8d81b01102a94%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D223173427809%26itm%3D191936260447&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/aluminium-round-bar-6082-21-4-57-15mm-to-4-101-6mm-free-cutting-and-P-P/191936260447?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122125356%26meid%3D47699844c2d44797a5c8d81b01102a94%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D223173427809%26itm%3D191936260447&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851)


Jason


Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on November 03, 2018, 07:44:12 PM
Thats the right diameter Jason but i don't have the a lathe big enough to drill it out thats the reason i need alloy tube  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Brian60 on November 04, 2018, 08:04:45 AM
Thats the right diameter Jason but i don't have the a lathe big enough to drill it out thats the reason i need alloy tube  :-))
The lathe above should handle that size. Simply back out the jaws of the chuck completely, turn them around and insert backwards. That will allow you to hold your round bar sufficiently to machine it. I'm assuming you have a boring bar type cutting tool for machining internal bores?
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on November 04, 2018, 08:41:59 AM
I have boring tools Brian and the lathe comes with anti jaw chucks, but i would prefer buying the alloy in tube form instead of cutting all that metal out.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: YJRR2 on November 04, 2018, 09:45:38 AM
As always, Iím really enjoying your build log Brian, especially the metal work and moulding; itching to have a go myself. Keep the inspiration coming!
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on November 15, 2018, 12:56:56 PM
Just received the Props I ordered from Simon (prop shop ) as usual the workmanship is second to none.
really pleased. :-))
Thanks Simon
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on November 15, 2018, 01:19:38 PM
Awesome Brian
 How's work on the drive units coming along


Jason
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on November 15, 2018, 08:41:22 PM
Starting to take shape Jason  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Tafelspitz on November 16, 2018, 07:05:46 AM
Wow, that looks pretty impressive. Impressive and heavy (duty)  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Brian60 on November 16, 2018, 12:59:46 PM
I had to look several times at those props in the first pic. They really looked like variable blade units! Its only when you see the coupling side of them you realise there isn't collar locating system to alter the blade angles. Superb casting and polishing of them, for all the world they look the real thing.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Netleyned on November 16, 2018, 01:37:32 PM
Beautiful work there :-))
As an aside, what is the difference between
Variable pitch and Controllable pitch props ?
Worked with Stone Kamewa Controllable Pitch
Gear, but is there any difference?
Ned
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Brian60 on November 16, 2018, 04:26:10 PM
Beautiful work there :-))
As an aside, what is the difference between
Variable pitch and Controllable pitch props ?
Worked with Stone Kamewa Controllable Pitch
Gear, but is there any difference?
Ned
Same things Ned, just differing methods of description.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: derekwarner on November 16, 2018, 08:46:36 PM
Ned...essentially a design name/theme taken up by two Companies


A VPP is a controllable pitch propeller - same concept, fundamentals - same principals - slightly different control systems


Some 45 years ago, I was involved in the Lloyds Survey on the Dutch Lipps brand manufacturedVPP's on Australian flagged Ro-Ro's


Extremely reliable......hydraulic fluid cleanliness was nearest to the Almighty......very reliable


I understand Lipps were bought out and into Wartsila Group in the late 60's?


Lipps and Kamewa were rival manufacturers of complete VPP packages


Derek
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on November 17, 2018, 10:15:27 AM
Hi all i have done a small modification to the props, they looked a bit heavy at the back so i turned them down. If you compare the earlier photo to these last ones you will see what i mean. photo number 2 shows the small threaded hole for the 3mm grub screw that holds the two sections together. the end caps are a press fit (tight lol )
I am really pleased with the way these units are turning out.


Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on November 17, 2018, 11:38:55 AM
Morning Brian
The drive looks fantastic prop looks a lot better turned down
Are you taking orders (LOL)
How is ant getting on with your hull


Jason
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on November 17, 2018, 06:45:44 PM
Hi Jason, the mould is all layed up, Anth is leaving it until this weekend so it settles and cures properly.
hopefully i should have the first hull before long. :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: nmbrook on November 17, 2018, 06:54:21 PM
Fabulous work! They make the Marx schottels for my Seabex look pathetic %) I keep thinking to purchase a lathe,but something keeps holding me back.I think is it is fact I have had 29 years on the tools before progressing into management in the steel fabrication business.Bottom line,I hate working with metal at home <*< Far to much like a busman's holiday and view it as a necessary evil in modelmaking %)


Regards


Nigel
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on November 17, 2018, 08:52:12 PM
Fabulous work! They make the Marx schottels for my Seabex look pathetic %) I keep thinking to purchase a lathe,but something keeps holding me back.I think is it is fact I have had 29 years on the tools before progressing into management in the steel fabrication business.Bottom line,I hate working with metal at home <*< Far to much like a busman's holiday and view it as a necessary evil in modelmaking %)


Regards


Nigel
Cheers Nigel I don't know what i would do without my lathe i am still thinking about purchasing a milling machine,
dropped a few hints to the good lady for the 25th LOL
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on November 17, 2018, 09:13:53 PM
Here are three photos showing the progress of the mould  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: nmbrook on November 18, 2018, 04:13:03 PM

Any tips for getting the gell coat to sit down?I had issues applying gell when laying up Seabex's hull.I was using an Epoxy compatible gell over Meguirs Mirror Glaze polish.It would not stay put and adhere to the polished surface(similar I imagine to trying to paint greaseproof paper).I know it can be sprayed on,but I don't have the correct gun nor a compressor with enough CFM to handle the tip size required.


Regards


Nigel
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on November 18, 2018, 06:36:06 PM
Sorry Nigel, i don't know much about laying up moulds,  thats one of the reasons Orion Mouldings gets my plugs.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on November 22, 2018, 09:03:31 PM
Well not a lot done over the last week, managed to get a start on the headgear
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on November 28, 2018, 10:26:59 PM
Hi all a bit more done on the drives headgear  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on November 28, 2018, 10:36:42 PM
Lovely to see  :-))  only just planning a lathe myself but space is limited and not sure Iíll get a valuable return from it given limited experience. I do recall much pleasure using full size machinery albeit 44 yrs ago  %% 
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on November 28, 2018, 10:54:56 PM
Lovely to see  :-))  only just planning a lathe myself but space is limited and not sure Iíll get a valuable return from it given limited experience. I do recall much pleasure using full size machinery albeit 44 yrs ago  %%


My old lathe gave up so I decided to go for the Warco mini lathe, not a bad lathe really it has its limitations but up to know it's ok.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on November 28, 2018, 11:00:37 PM
Watched that but currently only have imperial thread in stock at a good price so next up is the super mini at £599
Not sure I would really ever need the thread cutting anyway so might go with your mini  :-))  cheers Brian


Edit I see yours is the super  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on November 28, 2018, 11:07:35 PM
This is what I meant https://www.warco.co.uk/metal-lathes-metalworking-lathe-machine/303307-wm-150-lathe.html (https://www.warco.co.uk/metal-lathes-metalworking-lathe-machine/303307-wm-150-lathe.html) but perhaps I should shell out some more  O0
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on November 28, 2018, 11:21:46 PM
I thought thats what you meant LOL, I looked at that one but I think the super mini has a bit more going for it for the extra money, as i said i haven't been disappointed with mine.  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on November 29, 2018, 05:03:52 PM
A bit more progress 
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 03, 2018, 11:17:15 PM
Small update, I have decided to have just one support for the motor drive shaft, I attached the shaft into a hand drill to make sure it was running smooth, I was really pleased with the outcome  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 04, 2018, 09:04:00 PM
Quite a bit done today thats both units up to the same level, the next job will be to make the nozzles and the bracket to secure them to the drives. I haven't managed to get the alloy tube yet but not desperate at the moment, the other photo is showing how the mould is progressing.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 08, 2018, 08:38:46 AM
Hi all, after spending quite a while looking for the right sized alloy tube to make the nozzles  without any success i have bought a solid alloy bar off eBay. should have it early next week, it will be quite a big job boring it out to 84mm for the 80mm props.
We will see how the mini lathe copes with this as it will be at its maximum external jaw limits  {-)
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Brian60 on December 08, 2018, 11:58:57 AM
Good luck with turning that size aluminium, but what  a waste of material  <:( I have been sitting on the fence over a new lathe for the last year now, finally jumped on to the side that says 'buy one' :} I'll be ordering it from Germany after Xmas, lets call it a late chrissy present.
Thinking about the wasted material, could you not mount a hole cutter in the tail stock and bore out a good portion to be set aside for future projects, in essence take a plug of material from the centre of the bar?
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 08, 2018, 02:43:40 PM
Good luck with turning that size aluminium, but what  a waste of material  <:( I have been sitting on the fence over a new lathe for the last year now, finally jumped on to the side that says 'buy one' :} I'll be ordering it from Germany after Xmas, lets call it a late chrissy present.
Thinking about the wasted material, could you not mount a hole cutter in the tail stock and bore out a good portion to be set aside for future projects, in essence take a plug of material from the centre of the bar?


It is a waste as you say Brian, I have never tried a hole cutter on alloy I don't know if it would cut. I am sure you will get a lot of enjoyment out of your new lathe  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 08, 2018, 02:54:13 PM
I thought you might want a look at the first hull out of the mould, i am really pleased the way its turned out.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on December 08, 2018, 03:01:12 PM
Afternoon Brian
That looks super so do the drives
Ill keep watching

Jason
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 08, 2018, 03:08:31 PM
Afternoon Brian
That looks super so do the drives
Ill keep watching

Jason
:-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on December 08, 2018, 03:14:30 PM
Usual quality  :-))  when can we place orders  8)


Is this any good 90mm OD 3mm wall makes 84 ID
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aluminium-Round-Tube-89mm-90mm-outside-diameter-section-pipe-Internal-ID-OD-/112744826221 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aluminium-Round-Tube-89mm-90mm-outside-diameter-section-pipe-Internal-ID-OD-/112744826221)
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Mark T on December 08, 2018, 04:24:21 PM
Thats really is beautiful work  :-))   You must be really pleased with the way the hull has turned out  :-)
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 08, 2018, 04:35:51 PM
Usual quality  :-))  when can we place orders  8)


Is this any good 90mm OD 3mm wall makes 84 ID
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aluminium-Round-Tube-89mm-90mm-outside-diameter-section-pipe-Internal-ID-OD-/112744826221 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aluminium-Round-Tube-89mm-90mm-outside-diameter-section-pipe-Internal-ID-OD-/112744826221)


You have plenty to do Andy get your Maltby on the slips LOL, I found quite a few on eBay with 3mm wall but i wanted 6mm to give it some shape, I will try with the piece that I have ordered to see how it turns out  :-)) [size=78%]  [/size]
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on December 08, 2018, 04:39:17 PM
Available in 6mm wall too
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 08, 2018, 04:45:28 PM
It must be an age thing Andy I can not see 6mm available in the selection box
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 08, 2018, 04:47:17 PM
Thats really is beautiful work  :-))   You must be really pleased with the way the hull has turned out  :-)


Cheers it has taken a while to get to this stage but it has been worth it.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on December 08, 2018, 04:53:30 PM
It must be an age thing Andy I can not see 6mm available in the selection box


No itís not age Brian
The option isnít there but the listing says 1.5 up to 6mm so worth contacting them
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 08, 2018, 05:01:41 PM
Cheers Andy I will keep it in mind just incase I make a mess out of the metal i have ordered
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Tafelspitz on December 10, 2018, 06:41:03 AM
That hull looks super smooth. Very neat!
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 10, 2018, 03:29:18 PM
That hull looks super smooth. Very neat!


Cheers, its turned out good
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 10, 2018, 03:34:40 PM
Here are a few photos of the Arctic next to my Maltby both 1/32nd scale, I'm going to enjoy building this  :-))







Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on December 10, 2018, 03:42:04 PM
Awesome Brian  8)  thank you
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on December 10, 2018, 05:08:37 PM
Brian
What a beast of an hull.  you best start having three weetabixs {-) 


Jason
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 10, 2018, 10:08:53 PM
Cheers lads, really pleased with the outcome I don't think she is going to roll much with a fourteen and a half inch beam,
another photo showing the 5mm bulwark top rail built in  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on December 10, 2018, 10:14:54 PM
Would £200 slivs buy me one  8)
From the black interior looks like Orion production  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 10, 2018, 10:20:50 PM
Yes Orion Mouldings is going to market the hull plus a plan.


https://www.orionmouldings.com/modelboats.htm

Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on December 10, 2018, 10:30:23 PM
Yes Orion Mouldings is going to market the hull plus a plan.


https://www.orionmouldings.com/modelboats.htm (https://www.orionmouldings.com/modelboats.htm)
Looks like I was bang on with valuation.  O0

Thanks for all your hard work
Duly bought and paid by PayPal  :-))  so easy  :-)
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 10, 2018, 11:29:54 PM


Thanks for all your hard work
Duly bought and paid by PayPal  :-))  so easy  :-)



I don't think you will be disappointed Andy  :-)) 



Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on December 10, 2018, 11:32:32 PM
Just love the colour scheme  :-)
Got to be my next build
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 10, 2018, 11:35:29 PM
After your Maltby ?
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on December 10, 2018, 11:38:11 PM
Sheíll wait  :-)  Portgarth is almost done.
Although I will likely do the decks on both with 100% paxolin concurrently
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 10, 2018, 11:41:41 PM
Sheíll wait  :-)  Portgarth is almost done


 :-))

Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugnut on December 11, 2018, 06:56:22 AM
Hi Brian just looked at your new hull very nice   :-)) :-))  good price as well.
Will you make me the drives as well  O0 ;) .
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Butts on December 11, 2018, 09:34:35 AM
Andy, I reckon you'll need the heavy boat lift at Balne Moor to get that into the water %% .


What a beautiful hull :-))  Great work Brian :-))

I'm also tempted, but I'll carry on with my Damen 3111 for the moment.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 11, 2018, 09:51:06 AM
Hi Brian just looked at your new hull very nice   :-)) :-))  good price as well.
Will you make me the drives as well  O0 ;) .


Cheers John I have lots of work to do on the hull before she will look like the Stevns Arctic, and the drives are still not finished yet it makes me wonder if it would have been a lot easier just buying them. I don't think I will be taking orders LOL


Brian
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 11, 2018, 09:54:09 AM


What a beautiful hull :-))  Great work Brian :-))




Cheers Butts I will bring her down to Balne Moor when she is finished
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on December 11, 2018, 10:01:26 AM
I have just asked Orion to delay delivery until next week ! it would have been delivered this Saturday but I'm on a trip again  :-))
I will acquire some key materials from work this week  ;)


Look at these  https://www.facebook.com/groups/303441776524206/permalink/934026820132362/
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on December 11, 2018, 11:27:06 AM
I don't know if you are aware of registering with marine traffic dot com? but logging in accesses many huge photos of her. Not sure if this example will work?
Here goes
If you can see it? click to go large. There are loads on the site
(https://photos.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=1279846&size=full)


(https://photos.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=1120517&size=full)
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on December 11, 2018, 11:33:57 AM
What a monster  :o


Hear you go Andy link to drives like Brian as made


https://www.bauer-modelle.com/epages/Bauer_Uwe46269592.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Bauer_Uwe46269592/Products/4.9433 (https://www.bauer-modelle.com/epages/Bauer_Uwe46269592.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Bauer_Uwe46269592/Products/4.9433)


Jason
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on December 11, 2018, 11:38:51 AM
What a monster  :o


Hear you go Andy link to drives like Brian as made


https://www.bauer-modelle.com/epages/Bauer_Uwe46269592.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Bauer_Uwe46269592/Products/4.9433 (https://www.bauer-modelle.com/epages/Bauer_Uwe46269592.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Bauer_Uwe46269592/Products/4.9433)


Jason


Thanks Jason. I've read the whole thread twice now so seen them and agree too expensive for a pair by far. The Chinese ones should be about that for a pair I'm expecting.  :-))


An interesting attachment on the bow here for some purpose unknown to me?


(https://photos.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=1027150&size=full)
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 11, 2018, 11:46:55 AM
I have lots of photos of her Andy, I got quite a few from that web site. The drives on the link you posted look OK the link Jason has posted are really good but as you say the price is not good, you have postage to go onto that price so your probably looking at £1200 thats the reason I am making mine LOL
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on December 11, 2018, 11:48:20 AM
I have lots of photos of her Andy, I got quite a few from that web site. The drives on the link you posted look OK the link Jason has posted are really good but as you say the price is not good, you have postage to go onto that price so your probably looking at £1200 thats the reason I am making mine LOL
Yes you can buy a lathe and materials for less  {-)
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on December 11, 2018, 10:07:57 PM
Paxolin deck fixing.
I've had a little brainstorming session and I'm thinking with 6mm paxolin I can connect it to the hull sides by drilling and tapping from the outside along the line of the fenders. The fenders will cover the countersunk screw heads.


I could also do all the bulwark ribs with thin paxolin CA'd to the deck and as everything is the same red lead colour painting is relatively painless in masking up terms
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 12, 2018, 07:34:28 AM
That.s certainly a different approach to fitting the decks in Andy, the thickness of the hull doesn't give you much depth for counter sinking screws in, but if you think it would be ok go ahead and try it nothing ventured nothing gained.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Peter Fitness on December 12, 2018, 10:00:15 PM
Topic tidied up at OP's request.

Peter Fitness,
Moderator.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 12, 2018, 10:51:14 PM
Cheers Peter
On with the build, the alloy i ordered for the shottles arrived today i bought two lengths 50mm for each shottle.
Started the slow process boring them out LOL
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on December 12, 2018, 10:54:54 PM
Thank you both  :-))  new thread started under Orion title
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on December 13, 2018, 08:23:15 AM
Morning Brian
I am watching keep the pictures coming  :-))


Jason
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 16, 2018, 02:44:59 PM
Weather not good over the last few days but managed to get into the garden and got a start on rubbing down the hull, a couple of high spots here and there but not too bad.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on December 16, 2018, 08:22:16 PM
I'd better get my sander back from my son  :-)
For the benefit of prospective builders these are the plans you get and very fine there are!
https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,62247.msg656128.html#msg656128
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 16, 2018, 09:11:37 PM
Nozzles drilled and bored, start tomorrow putting some shape into them.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on December 16, 2018, 09:13:42 PM
Lovely  :-)  Please consider the market for these. I'd be happy to pay good money rather than modelbau having a laugh price  >:-o
Buy one get one free is comfortable if you can make that work  :-))  Certainly manage £600


P.S. that is certainly a terrific advert for your lathe never mind your skill setting it up! lots of negatives from anti Chinese equipment online but the finish speaks volumes
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 16, 2018, 09:44:33 PM
Lovely  :-)  Please consider the market for these. I'd be happy to pay good money rather than modelbau having a laugh price  >:-o
Buy one get one free is comfortable if you can make that work  :-))  Certainly manage £600


P.S. that is certainly a terrific advert for your lathe never mind your skill setting it up! lots of negatives from anti Chinese equipment online but the finish speaks volumes
Sorry I don't take orders, once you start it stops being a hobby and the enjoyment in gone.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on December 16, 2018, 09:45:55 PM
Sorry I don't take orders, once you start it stops being a hobby and the enjoyment in gone.
Understand completely  :-))  pleasure to watch in awe
Incredible how many enquiries I've had for Shannon stanchions  %%  no way ! take far too long
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qmC9CWs/0/1bcaba94/X2/i-qmC9CWs-X2.jpg)


(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-t4cWdvx/0/2a1a69ee/X2/i-t4cWdvx-X2.jpg)
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 17, 2018, 10:10:48 PM
Hi all managed to get some work done on the nozzles today.   
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on December 17, 2018, 10:11:49 PM
You must be pleased they look terrific  :-)
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on December 18, 2018, 07:45:53 AM
Morning Brian
Fantastic work  :-)) they look super


Jason
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Butts on December 18, 2018, 08:59:08 AM
Awesome work Brian.

I'm going to have to practise more with my lathe :embarrassed: 

It will be a long time though before I could produce something that impressive :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Brian60 on December 18, 2018, 08:59:21 AM
Nice piece of turning, can I ask how are you going to mount them Brian? I'm thinking aluminium is not the easiest of materials to bond either chemically or thermal (some form of solder/welding) or are you going to rely on mechanical fastenings, some form or rivet or screw/bolt?
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 18, 2018, 09:47:40 AM
Cheers lads, Brian i will be fixing a brass bar onto the top of the nozzles (drilling and tapping using m5 bolts) here is a photo showing the flat on the nozzle. I will post a photo when I have done this  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 18, 2018, 04:33:45 PM
Got the rubber for the fenders delivered today  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 20, 2018, 07:56:04 AM
Not much done over the last couple of days, here is a photo showing the amount of clearance the prop has in the nozzle, not a lot it's not fixed yet but it looking good. 
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on December 20, 2018, 09:10:58 AM
Speechless  :-)) 8)
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 20, 2018, 05:05:02 PM
Good day today, got the brackets for the nozzle's made and fitted.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Neil on December 20, 2018, 05:09:04 PM

even more speechless...ÖÖÖ.such engineering is far beyond my wildest dreams or capabilities.


just sublime :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on December 20, 2018, 06:56:27 PM
Brian
They look Fantastic well done i bet you're pleased with them  :-))


Jason
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 20, 2018, 07:39:49 PM
Thanks for your kind remarks lads I seem to have been on quite a while with them, I haven't added up how much they have cost
(I don't think I will lol) I might try and get a bit done on the hull or maybe get a start  on a bow thruster.  :-))


Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on December 30, 2018, 02:16:40 PM
Hi all hope every one has had a good Christmas, nothing done to the build over the last week but I thought I would put the hull into the bath to see how much ballast she would need to get her down to the water line.
I think I might have to start going to the gym and do a bit weight lifting, 5 batteries and the two nozzles total weight 18kg and still room for a bit more.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on December 31, 2018, 05:28:41 PM
Interesting weight Brian I expected more.


Q?
front round fender. Have you something in mind for this.


I am thinking about 35mm diameter and have found options for both solid cord or hydraulic hose. I cannot find sponge at this diameter without going to China
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on January 01, 2019, 12:52:31 AM
I found the good stuff in 35mm but postage from Holland is a ridiculous price for 1 metre that weighs nothing and more than doubles the price  >:-o https://www.greendalerubber.nl/en/EPDM-sponge-rubber-cord-35mm-per-meter (https://www.greendalerubber.nl/en/EPDM-sponge-rubber-cord-35mm-per-meter)


Happy New Year Brian  :-)
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on January 01, 2019, 08:48:31 AM
Interesting weight Brian I expected more.


Q?
front round fender. Have you something in mind for this.


I am thinking about 35mm diameter and have found options for both solid cord or hydraulic hose. I cannot find sponge at this diameter without going to China
The total weight will be more Andy, i was just seeing how much the drive units would take her down and the best location for ballast.
I will be using the same rubber tube as I i used on the Maltby.

Rubber Car Heater Radiator Coolant Hose Engine Water Pipe Various Sizes (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rubber-Car-Heater-Radiator-Coolant-Hose-Engine-Water-Pipe-Various-Sizes/191527385501?hash=item2c97ebf99d:m:mH552jXKeoN6bJ6dDgPCM3g:rk:1:pf:0)

Happy New Year to you Andy :-))

Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on January 01, 2019, 04:46:59 PM
Received an upgrade for the mini lathe yesterday, a Dixon style quick change tool post really pleased with the quality  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Mark T on January 01, 2019, 04:57:45 PM
Now thats nice gear  :-))   I've never seen a parting tool mounted like that before directly into the holder. I've only seen them in a standard mount which is then mounted into quick change. Makes sense though and I guess all tools could be mounted the same way which would save time.  Keep the updates coming.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Brian60 on January 01, 2019, 04:59:59 PM
Thats a nice quick change toolpost Brian. I'm still waiting for my lathe coming from Germany and I considered similar myself, but really I won't use it enough to warrant the outlay, I'll make do with the 4 tool turret that comes with it.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on January 01, 2019, 05:47:21 PM
I got the tool post off the fat man in the red suit Brian , it wasn't cheap as you say but well worth it,
Mark T really impressed with with the parting off tool  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on January 03, 2019, 09:20:04 PM
Haven't done any more on the Arctic up to know, just going through some of my old builds. Came across a few photos of my Typhoon that i build.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on February 04, 2020, 07:56:11 AM
Finally after giving some thought into the type of motor to use (brushed or brushless) I decided on Mobile Marine T12s for main drives. As I have changed the headgear on the schottel's to timing pulley's  the dimensions of the T12s are spot on.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on February 04, 2020, 10:16:26 AM
Motor mounts made to take pulley, I have incorporated a bearing to support the pulley.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: tugboyben on February 04, 2020, 11:18:11 AM
Morning Brain
Nice work glad to see you back on this project


Jason
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on February 04, 2020, 02:26:41 PM
Hi Jason I haven't been doing much with the models for a while, just starting to progress a bit.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on February 04, 2020, 08:07:05 PM
Schottels in place, starting on the headgear over the next couple of days
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on February 06, 2020, 09:54:22 PM
A few photos showing a bit progress, easy sand added and rubbed down then primed to show any blemishes
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on February 06, 2020, 09:55:47 PM
another two
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Butts on February 07, 2020, 03:47:33 PM
Just stunning Brian! 
Love those props! 
I've got an Artic hull on my slipway which will probably be my next build, but I'm not setting up another build thread - couldn't compete %%
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on February 07, 2020, 09:22:17 PM
Just stunning Brian! 
Love those props! 
I've got an Artic hull on my slipway which will probably be my next build, but I'm not setting up another build thread - couldn't compete %%
Pleased you like the progress Butts. Im getting back into the build slowly, I agree with what your saying about starting another build thread on the same model.

Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on February 12, 2020, 07:12:22 PM
I am going to rotate the schottels using nylon cogs direct from the servo's, the photo's show the way I made the mounts.

Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on February 12, 2020, 08:37:27 PM
Stern roller starting to take shape
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on February 12, 2020, 08:39:55 PM
Cleaned around the drive area
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on February 17, 2020, 09:47:44 PM
Small update over the weekend schottel servos and drive system fitted
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on February 19, 2020, 10:10:43 PM
After a lot of thought I have decided to give brushless motors a go, I don't know much about them but its the only way to find out LOL.
I have one fitted but not quite finished yet.


Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on February 21, 2020, 02:12:07 PM
Both motors fitted, with a few photos showing bottom shaft bearing support
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Mark T on February 21, 2020, 02:53:12 PM
That looks amazing you've made a really nice job of that - they look almost industrial  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Steve Mahoney on February 21, 2020, 08:40:58 PM
Please don't tell me it only took an hour to figure it out and a couple more to build them.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on February 21, 2020, 09:38:57 PM
That looks amazing you've made a really nice job of that - they look almost industrial  :-))


Thanks Mark
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on February 21, 2020, 09:43:18 PM
Please don't tell me it only took an hour to figure it out and a couple more to build them.


No Steve it took the best part of three days LOL
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on February 23, 2020, 07:50:30 PM
A bit work done on the stern roller today
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Capt Podge on February 23, 2020, 08:01:40 PM
Great work Brian, looks like you're getting back into the swing now.  :-)


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on February 23, 2020, 08:11:00 PM
Great work Brian, looks like you're getting back into the swing now.  :-)


Regards,
Ray.


Very slowly Ray got quite a few things going on  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Howard on February 23, 2020, 08:42:18 PM
 I Just enjoy sitting back and watching the Master at work gives me some one to aspirer to.
                     Regards Howard.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on February 23, 2020, 09:40:02 PM
I Just enjoy sitting back and watching the Master at work gives me some one to aspirer to.
                     Regards Howard.

Thanks Howard, I wouldn't go as far as that LOL I'm finding it very hard as the years tick by the old fingers aren't what they used to be


Brian
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on February 27, 2020, 09:57:47 PM
Not a lot done over the last couple of days, I decided to test the drives in the bath (while the good lady was shopping LOL) I was quite impressed with the way she performed, she certainly has some power. It took 14.131kg to get her to her water line plus the weight of the two schottels. 
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on April 22, 2020, 07:58:41 AM
Hi all its been a while since I have done much on this build as I was not happy with the bow plus i have a few projects on the go.
At the moment I am in the process of making a plug for a Pelagic Trawler I will start a build thread on this later on. I also have a nice hull I purchased of a shelter deck trawler so I have plenty to keep me occupied.


Back to the Arctic build, as I have said I did not like the bow so decided to do a little modification LOL

Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Dreadnought on April 22, 2020, 08:59:26 AM
Ooh that's a big water-cooling inlet lol  {-) {-) 
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on April 22, 2020, 09:02:44 AM
Ooh that's a big water-cooling inlet lol  {-) {-)


Its for the bow thruster LOL
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Steve Mahoney on April 22, 2020, 10:12:27 PM
Woah! That's drastic.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on April 22, 2020, 11:09:54 PM
Woah! That's drastic.
yes it might take in a bit water it will need a big bilge pump  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on April 23, 2020, 09:54:08 AM
As I have said I decided not to use belts for the drives. The alloy headgear is a little bit on the noisy side, I have since changed to nylon headgear and they are a lot quieter, the two photos show the way they are with the alloy headgear.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: dodes on April 23, 2020, 05:11:03 PM
Nice piece of engineering.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on April 23, 2020, 05:40:27 PM
Nice piece of engineering.
Thanks Dodes  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on April 27, 2020, 04:33:10 PM
Starting to take shape again, a few blemish's to get rid of then try to do the mould
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Capt Podge on April 27, 2020, 09:27:33 PM
Just been comparing the photos, prior to your drastic measures, to the 'as it is now' photos. You've done yourself justice there mate - great work  :-))


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Blaven03 on April 27, 2020, 09:33:20 PM
Looking great.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on April 27, 2020, 09:43:36 PM
Thanks lads  :-))  I am going to experiment making a mould of this plug before I attempt making the mould for the Pelagic Trawler.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on April 27, 2020, 09:49:29 PM
Any pictures of how you did it?  %%
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on April 27, 2020, 11:10:21 PM
Andy I have only a couple of photos the one on page 8 showing the amount I removed and this one showing the car filler before I did  bit more shaping, if you have looked at my Pelagic Trawler build it was basically the same method, i made some frames the shape that looked better then fitted them into the hull, I fitted a piece of ply down the centre of the hull to hold the frames in place then filled packed with close foam then shaped and covered with the car filler then lots of sanding, hope this explains.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on April 27, 2020, 11:12:16 PM
Thank you thatís a good explanation  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on April 28, 2020, 09:29:51 PM
that's the sanding just about finished, fitted the dividing board on the hull hopefully get gaps filled tomorrow ready to start waxing up.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on May 02, 2020, 03:51:29 PM
Well that wasn't to bad first half of plug gel coated and glassed, former removed and plug waxed ready for next side.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Capt Podge on May 02, 2020, 05:15:58 PM
Seems like you've got this moulding technique sorted Brian - good to see your progress  :-))


Regards,
Ray.




Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Georgeconna on May 02, 2020, 07:41:52 PM
Never seen this before so good educational pictures there!

Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: towrope on May 02, 2020, 08:45:18 PM
  Nice work Brian give it a couple of days before you try to separate the two parts this lets it cure the longer you leave it the better it will be  then hope for the best and fingers crossed look forward to seeing the finished subject  :police: :-)) 
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on May 02, 2020, 09:24:48 PM
cheers lads quite pleased with my first attempt I will probably leave it about four days towrope. I have just finished putting the first coat of glass on the starboard side, I will give it another three coats tomorrow  :-)) 
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: towrope on May 02, 2020, 09:49:42 PM
good work Brian hope you don't take it the wrong way but drill the holes for bolting together before you separate the two half's that way it will bolt together perfect keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on May 02, 2020, 10:10:07 PM
 All suggestion's are welcome towrope, I will be drilling the holes before I part the mould I have also incorporated lining up pins into the flange
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on May 05, 2020, 04:55:45 PM
Well decided to remove plug from mould today with a little bit of persuasion it came out LOL, a bit of cleaning up but I'm quite pleased at my first attempt at making a mould.
Im looking forward to start glassing up my Pelagic Trawler plug know.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Capt Podge on May 05, 2020, 05:06:49 PM
My initial reaction - looks like you've been successful - well done mate.  :-))


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Howard on May 05, 2020, 05:22:40 PM
Hello Brian,
 it's looking so good bonny lad but then I was never worried about your skill to make one am not into trawlers shame in wasn't a  north east tug still trying to get Anth to make a 1:24 Ryhope that would go great with my other four Tyne/Wear tugs but we all have to have a wish/dream hull I still enjoy watching your next project come to life I pick up so many tips seeing how you have done it again thanks for your build tread.
                Regards Howard.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Howard on May 05, 2020, 05:23:18 PM
Hello Brian,
 it's looking so good bonny lad but then I was never worried about your skill to make one am not into trawlers shame in wasn't a  north east tug still trying to get Anth to make a 1:24 Ryhope that would go great with my other four Tyne/Wear tugs but we all have to have a wish/dream hull I still enjoy watching your next project come to life I pick up so many tips seeing how you have done it again thanks for your build tread.
                Regards Howard.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on May 05, 2020, 06:08:36 PM
Thanks lads, at 72 I'm still learning  :-)) 
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on May 10, 2020, 05:46:28 PM
Just removed from the mould today, really pleased the way she has turned out I should have been moulding my own hulls years ago  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: towrope on May 10, 2020, 06:13:34 PM

nice job Brian hope you didn't have many problems separating the mould I know you have other things on your inventory so if your not working on the Stevens straight away put it back in the plug helps keep it's shape and stops it twisting and protects the plug
                                                         all the best Brian and take care :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on May 10, 2020, 06:38:37 PM
nice job Brian hope you didn't have many problems separating the mould I know you have other things on your inventory so if your not working on the Stevens straight away put it back in the plug helps keep it's shape and stops it twisting and protects the plug
                                                         all the best Brian and take care :-))


Thanks Tom, it took a bit of persuading but the mould was OK, I have a few others I'm busy with LOL, I will take your advice and put it in the mould for now  :-))

Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Howard on May 10, 2020, 08:40:42 PM
Hello Brian,
 As all ways a great job can I ask if your next one could be a 1:24 Ryhope sorry Brian am being cheeky I wish you well  as I never thought you would ever fail.
             Regards Howard.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on May 10, 2020, 11:16:15 PM
Hello Brian,
 As all ways a great job can I ask if your next one could be a 1:24 Ryhope sorry Brian am being cheeky I wish you well  as I never thought you would ever fail.
             Regards Howard.


I don't think so Howard, I think the three projects i have on at the moment will keep me going for the next few years  :-))
I looked at her history, she was built 1943 in Alabama long before France Fenwick Tyne & Wear Co Ltd bought and registered her at Sunderland
and named her Ryhope.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Howard on May 11, 2020, 12:18:32 AM
Hi Brian,
 Yes I think there was five all together all name after parts of Sunderland and first diesel tugs on the river Wear, I have four !:24 Tyne, Wear Tugs all different, Ryhope would will be my last dream tug might have to copy you and make my own give my plans to Anth when I bought my Cragsider so will have to buy another set keep up the great work such an enjoyment watching your builds.
              Regards Howard.   
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on May 13, 2020, 08:58:11 PM
I was hoping to carry on with the Trawler hull today but unfortunately i am waiting for gelcoat, so i decided to start on the Stevns bulwarks.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on June 13, 2020, 09:08:36 PM
Thought i would have a break from the Trawler build and do a bit on the Stevns, I managed to finish the bow thruster and hopefully get it fitted tomorrow
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Howard on June 13, 2020, 09:56:40 PM
Hi Brian.
I like how you do yours makes a lot of sense if you ever have to change the motor or tight for space I hope if you don't mind me copying it 
             Regards Howard.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on June 14, 2020, 08:14:35 AM
Hi Brian.
I like how you do yours makes a lot of sense if you ever have to change the motor or tight for space I hope if you don't mind me copying it 
             Regards Howard.


Hi Howard I have messed around with different set ups over the years and find this the easiest way, as you have said if any maintenance is needed easy removed, I don't have any problems with any one copying the way I have done mine  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on June 15, 2020, 09:33:05 PM
Good day today, got the bow thruster fitted pleased with the way it has turned out.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 08, 2020, 10:51:12 PM
Had a break from the trawler today done a bit work on the Stevns, I need to get the deck supports fitted so decided to cut the 14 wash ports out to help line up the deck supports. I also made the wash port inserts.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Howard on July 09, 2020, 10:48:28 AM
Hi Brian,
That's just amazing modelling I wish I lived next door so I could see your skill every day and learn from you.
            Regards Howard.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 10, 2020, 08:12:09 AM
Cheers Howard  :-))  I will let you know when the house next door comes up for sale LOL
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 11, 2020, 08:47:00 AM
Small update anchor ports done. :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 11, 2020, 09:37:17 PM
Managed to get the port and starboard keels made and fitted today.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Capt Podge on July 11, 2020, 09:44:55 PM
Those bilge keels do present difficulties for us all but you appear to have been successful - I'm guessing that you've anchored them from the inside?


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 11, 2020, 10:08:48 PM
Those bilge keels do present difficulties for us all but you appear to have been successful - I'm guessing that you've anchored them from the inside?


Regards,
Ray.


The keels are metal Ray, the photo I have attached is one of the keels I made for the trawler, the keels on the Stevns are made in the same way. Small holes are drilled into the hull them the pins pushed through then bent over in opposite directions then filled with car filler it makes a really strong job.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Capt Podge on July 11, 2020, 10:22:25 PM
I just knew it would be a solid fixing!
Thanks for the update Brian - it's in the book now for future reference  :-)) .


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 14, 2020, 09:28:28 PM
Progress over the last couple of days, all wash ports know fitted in place port and starboard deck supports fitted and bow deck fitted.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Howard on July 14, 2020, 11:14:35 PM
As Always Brian looking good seeing the master piece taking place.
 I'll be copping the way you do your keels. easier and better then the way I was thinking of
              Regards Howard. 
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 15, 2020, 08:57:39 PM
As Always Brian looking good seeing the master piece taking place.
 I'll be copping the way you do your keels. easier and better then the way I was thinking of
              Regards Howard.

cheers Howard, pleased you like the keels  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 15, 2020, 09:14:07 PM
Another good day today started to get Schottel's lined up
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 17, 2020, 09:57:18 PM
Schottel's fitted and secured, also made the fitment for the spur gear this is secured to the body of the Schottel with a 3mm grub screw.                                                     
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Mark T on July 18, 2020, 03:52:49 PM
Amazing build with such thoughtful engineering  :-))   I reckon you could pull a full size rowing boat around the lake with those drives!
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 18, 2020, 09:46:54 PM
Cheers Mark, It will be quite some time before she is ready to pull anything  :-))


I have been busy today making and fitting the servo's spur gears and I have done a test run and all is well.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: derekwarner on July 18, 2020, 11:34:29 PM
Very tidy with the adapter flange bolted to the larger gear  :-)) ....[the only reliable way to secure nylon to nylon]


Not sure if I missed the text on the directional control for each of the Schottel drives as opposed to independent control for speed [RPM] for each of the propellers  


1. Will each Schottel operate in a fixed parallel angle of helm?, or will they be able to operate at different angles of helm?
2. I understand the latter as a traditional twin motors drive with a speed mixer relative to rudder command etc, however this must be a completely different  %)


Derek
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: pufferfish on July 19, 2020, 08:26:19 AM
Very sexy, this schottel-unit, Brian  :-)) :-)) :-))
however this must be a completely different  %)


Derek
My experience with schottels:
it is completely different. After several tests (with catastrophic results) with my floating-crane to handle the three schottels fully manual, i've bought the solution from imth. with this product
 (https://www.imth.de/index.php/kategorien-de/product/view/1/58)the handling is more usual for me and with the optional and remote-selectable master-slave-mode i'm able to use both ways of handling. synchron or separate.


Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 19, 2020, 09:09:26 PM
Derek I normally have both Schottel's working together basically to make it easier to control the tug, I have operated them independently in the past but not with a lot of success.

Ralf the product from imth looks very promising probably worth looking into :-))


Brian
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: towrope on July 19, 2020, 10:04:04 PM
Hi Brian I think it's a must to have the twin Aquamaster controls it's just a shame the time and quality of those units not to be able to use them to there full capability I sill remember how to use them if you need some driving lessons (lol) keep up the good work really enjoying watching the build progress >>:-( :police:  take care and all the best Tom.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 19, 2020, 10:28:51 PM
Hi Brian I think it's a must to have the twin Aquamaster controls it's just a shame the time and quality of those units not to be able to use them to there full capability I sill remember how to use them if you need some driving lessons (lol) keep up the good work really enjoying watching the build progress >>:-( :police:  take care and all the best Tom.


I agree Tom, I might take you up on those driving lessons when she is all finished  :-))



Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: towrope on July 19, 2020, 10:35:33 PM
No problem Brian like i said look forward to watching the progress.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 20, 2020, 09:11:41 PM
Great day today got my ESCs sorted  after following the advice from forum members, the motors are running great to be perfectly honest I was nearly about to go back to brushed motors.


Back to the Artic build, today I made the batterie box and fitted the support beams for the deck, she has quite a big superstructure so this gives me plenty of room.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Stumps on July 21, 2020, 10:54:34 AM
Morning Brian,

May I ask how you have mounted the battery box to the bottom of the hull?

Regards
Ant

 
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: red_noir on July 21, 2020, 07:23:01 PM
Hello ! just curious what the diameter of the Schottel's are on your boat? debating using two from Ocean works for a similar Orion Moldings build.
https://www.oceanworkscale.com/product/z-peller-azimuth-thruster-z-drive-propulsion-combo-set-100mm-reinforce-nylon/ (https://www.oceanworkscale.com/product/z-peller-azimuth-thruster-z-drive-propulsion-combo-set-100mm-reinforce-nylon/)


Chuck
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 21, 2020, 10:13:49 PM
Morning Brian,

May I ask how you have mounted the battery box to the bottom of the hull?

Regards
Ant


Hi Ant I made a wood frame to fit the contour of the hull then laminated this in place then covered with 4mm ply, then made the frame work around the edge. If you look at the photos the batterie box also supports the frame work for the deck this makes a very solid structure, I have used this idea in quite a few of the models over the years and it has not let me down.


Hope this helps
Brian

Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 21, 2020, 10:19:41 PM
Hello ! just curious what the diameter of the Schottel's are on your boat? debating using two from Ocean works for a similar Orion Moldings build.
https://www.oceanworkscale.com/product/z-peller-azimuth-thruster-z-drive-propulsion-combo-set-100mm-reinforce-nylon/ (https://www.oceanworkscale.com/product/z-peller-azimuth-thruster-z-drive-propulsion-combo-set-100mm-reinforce-nylon/)


Chuck


85mm inside diameter  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 21, 2020, 10:56:42 PM
A bit more done on the deck supports today, on the aft section of the Stevns deck will be a removable hatch to allow any work needed on the drives this is the reason she is named the Stevns Arctic and not the Stevns Ocean. The Stevns Arctic and the Stevns Ocean are identical vessels apart from the stern deck, the Arctic has a large area covered with wood to protect the deck, the Ocean is all steel plate.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Stumps on July 22, 2020, 08:36:46 AM

Hi Ant I made a wood frame to fit the contour of the hull then laminated this in place then covered with 4mm ply, then made the frame work around the edge. If you look at the photos the batterie box also supports the frame work for the deck this makes a very solid structure, I have used this idea in quite a few of the models over the years and it has not let me down.


Hope this helps
Brian

Thanks Brian for the info above and it's a fantastic build. I might have to do something similar to my tug. Although hull is nearly 3mm thick fiberglass it's surprisingly flexible from stem to stern.

regards
Ant 
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Butts on July 22, 2020, 11:14:22 AM
Hello ! just curious what the diameter of the Schottel's are on your boat? debating using two from Ocean works for a similar Orion Moldings build.
https://www.oceanworkscale.com/product/z-peller-azimuth-thruster-z-drive-propulsion-combo-set-100mm-reinforce-nylon/ (https://www.oceanworkscale.com/product/z-peller-azimuth-thruster-z-drive-propulsion-combo-set-100mm-reinforce-nylon/)


Chuck
I'm waiting for delivery of a pair of these schottles in this size. Mine is the same hull as Brian's. 
I think they must be made to order as they have been a long time coming. I know they are now about to be delivered so I'll let you know what I think of them when they arrive.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: red_noir on July 22, 2020, 11:55:34 AM
I'm waiting for delivery of a pair of these schottles in this size. Mine is the same hull as Brian's. 
I think they must be made to order as they have been a long time coming. I know they are now about to be delivered so I'll let you know what I think of them when they arrive.


Oh awesome, I'm really curious about these drives, They look great. Ill keep an eye out for your assessment ! :)


Chuck
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on July 22, 2020, 01:08:35 PM
I'm waiting for delivery of a pair of these schottles in this size. Mine is the same hull as Brian's. 
I think they must be made to order as they have been a long time coming. I know they are now about to be delivered so I'll let you know what I think of them when they arrive.

A bit slower journey than pre COVID
Looking forwards to pictures
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Butts on July 22, 2020, 02:47:28 PM
A bit slower journey than pre COVID
Looking forwards to pictures
The main delay was another eight days after we last spoke before they hit the courier.
 
The actual journey from HK has not been too bad. The tracking has been very informative.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 22, 2020, 08:43:53 PM
I'm waiting for delivery of a pair of these schottles in this size. Mine is the same hull as Brian's. 
I think they must be made to order as they have been a long time coming. I know they are now about to be delivered so I'll let you know what I think of them when they arrive.



Not quite the same hull as mine Buttts as I made the plug and the mould and I have the only hull from the mould LOL
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Butts on July 22, 2020, 08:51:34 PM
Yes Brian, I realise that :embarrassed: :-))  I just meant the same size.
 
Mine is also going to be based on Stevns Battler as that has a lower superstructure than the Ocean/Artic type.  At Balne Moor tall superstructures just get blown off course too much
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 22, 2020, 08:55:58 PM
Yes Brian, I realise that :embarrassed: :-))  I just meant the same size.
 
Mine is also going to be based on Stevns Battler as that has a lower superstructure than the Ocean/Artic type.  At Balne Moor tall superstructures just get blown off course too much


Did you buy the one that Orion is selling ?
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Butts on July 22, 2020, 08:59:00 PM
Yes, mine is one of Orion's but I've had it on the slip for about a year as other projects have taken too long!
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 22, 2020, 09:03:36 PM
A bit slower journey than pre COVID
Looking forwards to pictures


Andy I think this is the type of schottle that Butts has ordered
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 22, 2020, 09:07:43 PM
Yes, mine is one of Orion's but I've had it on the slip for about a year as other projects have taken too long!


Anth makes a good hull Butts  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Howard on July 22, 2020, 09:18:07 PM
I'll second that Brian I 've had a few of Ant's hulls and found them perfect nice thickness to. and a great bloke to deal with
              Regards Howard.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Butts on July 23, 2020, 09:20:50 AM
Yes, this will be the second in a row.

The first one made a really good towing boat :-)) 

The schottels I've ordered are similar, but they do not have brass props, but now come with brushless motors fitted - just add a servo :-))



Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Butts on July 26, 2020, 12:19:25 PM
As promised here are a couple of photos of the Oceanworks schottels. I am very pleased with the quality as I hope is evident in these photos.  These are listed as 100mm, the size being taken at the rear wider end. At the business end they are 90mm and the props are 80mm.  The website shows the schottels as having nylon props, but Victor has upgraded them to brass as you can see.  The drive is a brushless 800 Kv motor. You just need to add a servo.  The depth required in the hull is about 90mm.
One tip to remember, if you order larger sizes they come in two parcels which was not clear to me and that did not show up in the tracking.

(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2020/07/26/fullsizeoutput_2a5.jpg) (https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/image/a2UZw)

(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2020/07/26/fullsizeoutput_2a6.jpg) (https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/image/a2cFp)
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Taranis on July 26, 2020, 03:08:40 PM
Fantastic and much better than the crazy Dutch prices  %%


Another one of yours
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Boat-bits/i-8qDLd83/1/b147dd92/L/50C6E991-8E87-4CC6-A1FD-F2EC1586FFD1-L.png)
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Butts on July 26, 2020, 03:44:30 PM
Yes, for some reason the site did not like this photo when I uploaded the others >>:-( ?
The price is really good - $180 for this size - and it is big, 20cm top to toe
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 26, 2020, 11:52:10 PM
They look really good quality Butts  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 27, 2020, 08:11:54 AM
The price looks good compared to other Schottel's of that size Michael, I like the drive set up the only limiting factor will be the hight with the motor on top, as I have just said quality looks good. It will be interesting to get your review on them once you have them fitted and running.


Brian
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Butts on July 27, 2020, 09:01:04 AM
You're right Brian, they are big!

The nozzles themselves are exactly the size shown on the Artic plans and I'm sure I can get them under the deck. I have to confess though I was a little surprised by the overall size %%


I will update when I get them fitted.

Michael.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 27, 2020, 10:17:47 PM
You're right Brian, they are big!

The nozzles themselves are exactly the size shown on the Artic plans and I'm sure I can get them under the deck. I have to confess though I was a little surprised by the overall size %%


I will update when I get them fitted.

Michael.


I don't think you will have any problem Michael Orions Arctic hull has plenty of room  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Butts on July 28, 2020, 11:56:41 AM
Yes, its size is very clear when it sits on my workbench %%
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 29, 2020, 10:11:36 PM
A bit more progress, made and fitted stern roller.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 29, 2020, 10:15:54 PM
A few more photos, starting to take shape.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Capt Podge on July 29, 2020, 10:25:02 PM
Well impressed with those curved bulwarks Brian - and the stern roller looks superb. She's looking more shipshape with every update - great stuff  :-))


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Howard on July 29, 2020, 10:43:45 PM
Hi Brian,
Can I ask what you use as filler Milliput or car filler.
                  Regards Howard.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on July 29, 2020, 11:19:56 PM
Cheers Ray  :-))


Hi Howard I use car body filler, I buy 3.5 L tins  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on August 02, 2020, 08:10:44 AM
Small update, managed to get a bit done on the bow
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Howard on August 02, 2020, 12:35:41 PM
It's looking amazing Brian I do hope you have grandsons to pass on your skills.
                 Regards Howard.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Mark T on August 02, 2020, 02:19:10 PM
Wow - lovely work as per usual from you  :-))
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on August 05, 2020, 09:16:51 PM
Thanks Mark and Howard  :-))  not a lot done over the last few days but managed to get a start on the fender supports.
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: Stumps on August 06, 2020, 09:51:25 AM
Hi Brian,
This is becoming my go to thread for inspiration for my own tug build.

Another question if you don't mind... What are you using for the fender supports ~ plastic 'L' strips?

regards
Ant
Title: Re: Stevns Arctic Build
Post by: chipchase on August 07, 2020, 04:13:07 PM
Hi Brian,
This is becoming my go to thread for inspiration for my own tug build.

Another question if you don't mind... What are you using for the fender supports ~ plastic 'L' strips?

regards
Ant


100% correct Ant, I buy 1MT lengths from Leeds Model Shop, very helpful  :-))
Maquette Angle A=0.5B 3.5x7.0mm Super Styrene 1000mm 417-55 (http://www.modelshopleeds.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=136_343_402&products_id=11248)