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Title: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: David gray on March 13, 2018, 09:54:25 PM
Hello I have just started a new build of a 1/96 scale type 42 hms Liverpool,  I was originally going to build d89 hms exeter but after some research I preferred The later version with the phalanx and other mods , I have made a start on the main superstructure whilst I am waiting for the hull from Barry at sirmar I am
using the jecobin plans but it only shows the ship as she was in 1983 I want to do her in here last year's
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: ballastanksian on March 13, 2018, 09:58:38 PM
Welcome to the forum David, and what a start you have made  :-)) The superstructure looks very crisp and clean. I cannot wait to see more.
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: jonggd on March 14, 2018, 08:12:29 PM
Hello David, welcome to the forum, I'm also building a T42. Mines HMS York, one of the batch 3 versions in 1/72 scale. I have just started to build the superstructure and have been pondering over how to create the curve at the front of the superstructure, how did you tackle this on your build? regards jon
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: David gray on March 15, 2018, 03:18:10 PM
hello ,yes I have been watching your build looks superb. the curve on the superstructure wasn't as bad as I thought . this is what I did
first I traced the 2 sides and the upper deck and transferred them to 1.5mm sheet .then looking at the plan view of the ship on the plans I position the 2 sides with the deck on top of the plans
then in line with the straight sections of the bridge wings I cut a rectangle section and joined the 2 superstructure sides together then with the assembly back in position trace  the lower curve
and make a piece that goes back to the rectangle section and glue in place whilst it is sat on the plan . then if you look at the down on the plan on the upper deck you will see the upper curve
about 2mm in from the front of the bridge I did the same again . traced and made a piece and glued it to the underside of the deck and back to the rectangle section this gives you the angle
then I glued a 1mm section to the curves and filled the end curves in with squadron filler. it is much easier then it is to explain .look at radiojoes hams Coventry build that is what I copied
hope this helps
       regards david
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: David gray on March 16, 2018, 09:15:28 PM
Running gear arived today from George sitek very nice
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: David gray on April 03, 2018, 08:19:13 PM
Bit more progress the bridge is quite a challenging shape had a few attempts before I was happy, next is the olimpus filters
Still struggling to find any detailed photos of the ship as it was in her final Configuration
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: ballastanksian on April 03, 2018, 08:34:10 PM
That looks first class David.
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: Bowwave on April 06, 2018, 11:34:59 PM
Hello David I have been looking in on your build and as you say you are keen to build your model of HMS  Liverpool's as of her  final period in service.  If you wish I  may be able to help , you can always PM me.
Bowwave
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: Bowwave on April 09, 2018, 03:34:15 PM
Hi  David check out your e-mail  pictures sent.  I trust they will be of some help .
Bowwave
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: David gray on April 09, 2018, 09:15:14 PM
Thanks David they are a great help
  Regards David
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: Bowwave on April 09, 2018, 10:34:00 PM
Hi David you are very welcome only to pleased to be of assistance .
Bowwave
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: David gray on February 03, 2019, 05:17:23 PM
been a while since I posted , struggling to find close up detail and images of the ship as she was in here final years
had a go at the Olympus air intake ,added the phalanx platforms and some upper detail
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: David gray on February 03, 2019, 05:22:19 PM
some more photos
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: ballastanksian on February 03, 2019, 11:10:35 PM
That is a fine piece of modelmaking David. The mesh is straight and looks to scale, and the details look right. Sometimes you just have to stop and catch your breath and then once ready get back on the saddle. I can't wait to see more  :-))
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: littoralcombat on February 05, 2019, 01:57:02 PM
Good to see you back posting David. Nice progress Sir!! Very crisp detail.
Nige
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: David gray on February 22, 2019, 07:28:09 PM
thanks for your comments guys. The masts where always going to be a challenge just finished the forward masts quite pleased with the results this is largely down to the tiny pots of mechanical solder and a dermal butane torch works great even down to 0.3 brass rod
would be impossible with a soldering iron
regards David
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: ballastanksian on February 22, 2019, 08:39:45 PM
There has been a run of very complex masts recently! That is excellent and made from nearly every type of material I can think of (Excepting a few, but still  :-))   )
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: frogman3 on March 03, 2019, 01:24:22 PM

HI v- nice work on this type 42 batch 2 isn't it ? where is the start of the build ? if you don't mind me askin as it would be nice to see it an is this a static display or sailin . please exscuse the questions as im a newbie on this forum an only just seen your build as im hopein to see more I like the type 42 as I have scratchbuilt 2 type 42 but batch 3 in 1/64 scale HMS YORK D98 an HMS EDINBURGH  D97  an they sailed brilliantly as they have a nice length an beam. B ut back to your build have you fitted an workin featuers  an I will be following your build now ive found it -very nice work  :-))
chris
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: David gray on March 05, 2019, 09:41:44 PM
Hello , I have started the build with the front superstructer whilst I was waiting for the hull and running gear  so I am going to continue building the
Superstructures before I start the hull , probably back to front I intend to make the model for sailing , hopefully make the 1022 radar rotate and some lighting
Regards David




Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: raflaunches on March 05, 2019, 10:34:01 PM
Amazing detail work, even as a RAF Crab I can recognise many features from the Type 42 superbly recreated in miniature. And I was only the Edinburgh for 8 hours!
Itíll look brilliant when youíve finished.
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: David gray on March 15, 2019, 06:54:08 PM
just finished the next sub assembly, there is quite a lot of detail in this part , the sirmar 1022 radar turned out better than I expected
I am going to get a 10rpm geared motor to rotate this so I have put a 3mm tube through the tower .
next I am going to get some paint on all these sub assembly's , I have decided to go with the matt light upper weatherworks grey as I think it looks better on smaller scale models than a semigloss finish and shows detail better when airbrushed finish   , James at  sovereign models now has 125ml tins of this , I am going to mix this with the 6 14ml tins I already have , so there should be enough to paint the whole model . there is nothing worse than painting half the model and running out of paint , then buying new paint only to find it is a different shade   
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: ballastanksian on March 15, 2019, 09:14:07 PM

I know it's a kit, but there were so many occasions that the construction could have gone horribly wrong  %% It looks really straight and square. Its times like these that I think it is such a shame to paint over all that work.


Gorgeous work David.
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: David gray on March 23, 2019, 09:30:41 PM
just had the paint come from sovereign models , light weather works grey in matt finish looks really good much better in the 125ml tins
enough to paint the whole model
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: ballastanksian on April 13, 2019, 04:15:21 PM
Utterly superb David. Even slightly fuzzy, the detail is really special. I love the radar array and it's tower.  :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: David gray on July 07, 2019, 07:58:08 PM
been a while since I posted but made a bit more progress the scot dome platforms where a bit tricky
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: David gray on July 07, 2019, 08:01:00 PM
some more pics
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: dougal99 on July 07, 2019, 09:12:53 PM
Outstanding workmanship. I take my hat off. Well done.  :-))
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: littoralcombat on July 12, 2019, 03:50:07 AM
Great build David, keep the pictures coming.
Nige
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: ballastanksian on July 12, 2019, 10:27:26 PM
Amen. I love the detail and brasswork. It is first rate like Radio Joe's warship models and numerous others here.
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: Capt Podge on July 12, 2019, 10:37:16 PM
If we didn't know it was a model, and there were no distractions in the background, it would appear to be the real thing - fantastic workmanship, most inspiring  :-))


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: newbe7 on July 14, 2019, 12:25:54 PM
WOW the detail blows me away you do great work .
Rck   
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: David gray on July 15, 2019, 09:12:15 PM
Thanks for all your comments, wish the pictures where a bit better
I am using an old camera so the files arenít to big
Regards David
Just the front domes and radar to make  and Ariels to to add and this part is
Finished
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: David gray on November 10, 2019, 05:13:20 PM
just about finished the upper structure now,  Started to detail the lower structure , quite a bit of work fitting the hand rails and awning
rail used 0.3 brass wire for this. still a lot more detail to add before painting , also a geared motor to add for the 1022 radar
here are a few pics
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: David gray on November 10, 2019, 05:17:49 PM
more pics
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: David gray on November 10, 2019, 05:19:40 PM
more pics
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: Capt Podge on November 10, 2019, 07:09:01 PM
Fabulous detailing on your superstructure - very realistic.
Curiosity has got the better of me David, what is that 'pewter' looking object on the base of the radar?


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: David gray on November 10, 2019, 09:08:56 PM
Hello Ray it's suppose to a R A S  ( refueling at sea ) nozzle head , I bought this from fleetscale and it's supposed to be 1/96 scale but it looks to big
I have since removed it
Regards David
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: Capt Podge on November 10, 2019, 09:19:34 PM
Ah yes, I see that now, at first I thought it was the torso of a knight in armour  {-) .
Yeah, definitely over scale for the RAS connection.
Thanks for the update...


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: derekwarner on November 11, 2019, 01:15:56 AM
David...our RAN vessels use US compatible RAS ship receival connections for obvious reasons....[like a US refueler embarked with a US/RAN Naval exercise]


You may find all Countries aligned with NATO have their Naval vessels similarily equipped?...or taking it further, any Countries [vessels]  currently aligned with the US Government Policy........Japan, The Phillipines, Vietnam?.....the list is mindless


The RAS hosed themselves are 4" bore, so the connection mouthpiece [lighweight non-corrosive stainless alloy] would be a nominal say ~~ 5" convoluted  OD max


Derek
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: derekwarner on November 11, 2019, 06:15:27 AM
Just watched a video of our two new RAN refuellers.........the RAS hoses appear far larger than the 4" bore I suggested earlier...


  :embarrassed:  things sure have changed over 32 years since I stepped onboard such vessels



https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwjpx8f5vuHlAhWHV30KHXxwD4IQMwhIKAAwAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.navy.gov.au%2Fsupply-class-aor&psig=AOvVaw3607Inoqqv4kFOtQ3PfjCz&ust=1573538797386266&ictx=3&uact=3
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: derekwarner on November 11, 2019, 06:48:21 AM

Couldn't let it go without an answer  %)

https://www.amdefencemarine.co.uk/what-we-do/defence/assault-courses/ (https://www.amdefencemarine.co.uk/what-we-do/defence/assault-courses/)

MIL- Spec RAS hoses range from 64 to 153 mm diameter  :P 

[When you back-check this, you will see that these Standards also apply to your RN]
With separate classifications to me
Derek
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: frogman3 on November 11, 2019, 10:14:57 AM

HI David just been lookin at your build an very nice detailed an just wondered wheather you have your hull yet from sirmar ?
chris
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: David gray on November 11, 2019, 11:32:23 AM
Hi Chris yes I didnít have the hull when I started the superstructure so I have decided to build both structures before I start the hull
I have all the fittings and running gear also
Itís taking  longer than it should because I am having to
Work a lot from photos to build the latest version of her
The jebinco plans are the Bly for the the 1983 version
Dave
Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: littoralcombat on November 12, 2019, 11:02:39 AM
Coming along nicely David, following this build closely.
May I ask what you have used for the plastic coated wire removable handrails, such as those adjacent to the RAS station on the 1022 stump mast. Very realistic!
Nige

Title: Re: HMS LIVERPOOL BUILD
Post by: David gray on November 12, 2019, 08:49:18 PM
Hi Nige I used 0.5mm brass wire for the fixed railings and 0.3 brass wire for the black platinum coated ones
Regards David