Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Navy - Military - Battleships: => Topic started by: kevin547n on March 20, 2018, 09:14:59 pm
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Good evening everyone
I dont have a Build log on here, but happy to start one if there is any interest
Hull by Fleetscale and plans by Jecobin
started in July 2017 and planed to be completed within 3 years
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at present she looks like this
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Lovely subject, great looking Seaslug launcher. Keep up the good work I'll look forward to seeing more of your pictures as your build progresses.
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I love the lines of these warships.
Bob
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WOW, that is impressive...........did you serve on her Kevin.
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Served on her Sister ship London as my first sea draft! :embarrassed:
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WOW, that is impressive...........did you serve on her Kevin.
I served on her from 1978-1980, thss was my second sea draft, the first being HMS Sheffield, in 1980 i went into Subs and did 27 years in various types
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thank you for the comments, i still dont know if the log is in the correct place
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Yes please, do put a build log here. Based on what you have done so far it will be a very popular build.
It probably sits best in the Warships section but one of the Mods will move it if you do carry on with showing us all the build.
Oh, and welcome to Mayhem!
Greg
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I served on her from 1978-1980, thss was my second sea draft, the first being HMS Sheffield, in 1980 i went into Subs and did 27 years in various types
did you ever come across a guy called mike [slinger] woods from Fleetwood...he served on the Resolution class and then Trident class subs in the electronics area .......retired a few years ago to live in Cyprus.
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I finished my twelve years service on Fife in 1971 so will be following this with interest :-)) :-))
Slinger
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Good evening everyone, welcome to my build
This is HMS Fife, a County Class Destroyer, built in the 1960's during the cold war, I personally served on her from 1978-1980 during which time we made the news around the world after we were turned around from going home and went back to give aid to the island of Dominica after she was struck by a hurricane
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I will use this page for now as an index, as i intend to work in stages, which is not how I normally build, where as i tend to go to what ever i fancied
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Design and constructionFife was the first and only British warship to bear the name, for county Fife. She was a Mk2 Guided Missile Destroyer (GMD, also referred to pre-1975 by its then US Navy/NATO designator DLG (Large Destroyer (USN 'Frigate') carrying long range surface to air missiles for area defence; post-1975 DDG, 'destroyer' with similar characteristics). The Mk2 designator refers to her primary armament, the Seaslug Mk2 missile. The weapon had begun development in the early fifties and entered service in the Mk1 GMDs like Hampshire. By modern standards the Seaslug is a huge missile with one sustainer rocket motor and 4 disposable boosters. The missile was a so-called 'beam rider'. It was launched from a huge rail launcher in the stern and boosted into the guidance beam from the fire direction radar which pointed at the target, a high altitude supersonic attack aircraft. Once in the beam the missile would fly at supersonic speed to the target where a proximity fuze would detect the target and detonate the continuous rod warhead.
The ship was ordered by the Ministry of Defence (MoD) on 26 September 1961. The keel was laid on 1 June 1962 by Fairfield Shipbuilding and the vessel was launched 9 July 1964. Fife was commissioned 21 June 1966 with the pennant number D20.
Royal Navy serviceIn 1969, Fife took part in a group deployment around the world. She left Portsmouth on 1 April 1970 and sailed to Safi in Morocco; the first visit by a British warship for over a 100 years. Then to Lagos in Nigeria just at the end of the Biafran War. From Lagos to Simon's Town in South Africa. The gates of the former British Naval base still bore the royal cypher, VR. From Simon's Town, she briefly took part in the Beira Patrol off the shores of Rhodesia after Prime Minister Ian Smith declared Rhodesia's Unilateral Declaration of Independence. The Beira Patrol was a naval blockade to enforce economic sanctions on the errant regime. From there she crossed the Indian Ocean and stopped off at the NATObase on the island of Gan en route to Singapore. There she spent 6 weeks in an Assisted Maintenance Period (AMP) before heading for the South China Sea to conduct the first live firings of the Sea Slug Mk2 area protection anti-aircraft missile. The ship had been refitted in Portsmouth to accommodate a larger war-load of missiles and this work was completed in Singapore where she took on live missiles. The trials were successful against US targets from bases in the Philippines. After this she went to Hong Kong and Kobe in Japan for Expo 70, before heading to Pearl Harbor on Hawaii and then on to Long Beach in California and Acapulco in Mexico and via the Panama Canal to Puerto Rico and on to the Mediterranean. She visited Toulon and spent time in Malta and Gibraltar before returning to the UK. Whilst in Hawaii, the Royal Navy abolished the rum issue. As a result, Fife became the last ship in the Navy to issue rum by virtue of being the furthest west in the Pacific. The Hawaiian media came on board and were quite bemused when the ships Senior Ratings staged a mock burial at sea, complete with a Pipers Lament provide by the ship's pipe and drum band and pall bearers dressed in black.
Her Commanding Officer for this voyage was Captain David Scott, who had been the 1st Lieutenant of Seraph in the Second World War when the submarine penetrated Tokyo Harbour and sat on the bottom, carrying out reconnaissance of the Japanese shipping there.
She had 'B' turret removed and replaced with four Exocet launchers in the mid-1970s. In 1977, she attended the Silver JubileeFleet Review and formed part of the 2nd Flotilla.[1][/size] In 1979, Fife provided assistance to the Caribbean island of [size=0px]Dominica after the island was severely hit by Hurricane David. She was under refit during the Falklands War and did not take part in the conflict.
Refit 1986In 1986, Fife underwent a refit to convert her into a mobile training ship. The removal of her Seaslug missile system and its large magazine was completed in June 1986, which created space for extra messdecks and classrooms for officers under training. One messdeck still used hammocks and these officers are possibly the last men in the Royal Navy to sleep in hammocks; they were told so at the time. In early September 1986 she undertook a Dartmouth Training Ship (DTS) deployment to the Caribbean Sea and Florida, returning to Portsmouth in late November. She was accompanied on this deployment by the frigates Diomede and Apollo.
A "hut" was built where the Seaslug launcher had once stood, aft of the helicopter pad. This grey box was a navigation training classroom and attracted much attention from a Russian Kashin-class destroyer, which regularly "buzzed" Fife for some close quarter photographs.[/size][size=0px][[/size]citation needed]
Her second Dartmouth Training Ship deployment in January 1987 took her via Brest into the Mediterranean Sea, in company with Intrepid. Her final voyage in the Royal Navy was to lead a Dartmouth Training Ship deployment to North America, in which she and Juno sailed into the Great Lakes. On her return to Great Britain in June 1987 she landed the officers under training at Dartmouth and then proceeded to Portsmouth where she was decommissioned after 21 years of service.
[/size]Chilean Navy service[size=0px][/color]
The ship was sold to Chile on 12 August 1987 and renamed Blanco Encalada. She was taken into refit at Talcahuano on her arrival and, taking advantage of the removed Sea Slug, her deck was extended aft and a new, larger hangar constructed. The rebuild was completed in May 1988. In 1996 Blanco Encalada's Sea Cat launchers were removed and she was fitted with the Barak SAM.
Blanco Encalada was decommissioned from the Chilean Navy on 12 December 2003 and was sold for scrap in November 2005. She was broken up by Turkish shipbreakers Leyal Gemi Sokum in 2013.
This is how she looked in the Chilean Navy
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lots to discuss with this build, more questions than answers, and the way I plan to build her will no doubt seam strange but here goes. The plans came from a company called Jecobin, i dont know if they are the same ones that come from where i Purchased the hull, but thats the company I chose they are 1/1 so the to shhets give the full representation of the finished vessel 2.3m and cost me £55
the hull came from a company called fleetscale in Cornwall UK, A gentleman called Justin kept me informed of progress and it was delivered in less than 3 weeks, the price was about £170 and the postage another £30(https://i.imgur.com/SQW0IOv.jpg)[/size][/font][/color]
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In September 2017 intententions were to leave the hull well alone at this stage, but it became apparent that I might as well put a quick MDF Deck on her to be used as a temp worktop, as the hull alone is over 7 feet long,and taking up a lot of space
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september 2017
to ensure I could understand the plans, over a couple of weekend i knocked up the superstructure in card, when i was happy with each peice it got a very quick covering with grey rattle can primer
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[/size]to trace the plans onto card i made up a light box from a sheet of glass with a small lamp underneath, it actually worked quite well[/color]
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building the superstructure in card was quite easy, and i anticipated transferring it ti plasticard would be easier, but i found just the opposite, I bought several thicknesses .25mm, 0.5mm and 1mm and set about the hanger area, well to cut a long story short, it all went into the bin and had to be restarted, i have found all the bulkheads have to be at least 2mm thick, as it becomes far to flexible
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september 2017
hanger interior
this took several attempts to get right
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September 2017
hanger lighting and Helo
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although in the wrong colours
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October 2017
aft of the hanger on the stbd side is a tower, this was only ever fitted to Fife and was a Seaslug missile RAS Rig (replenishment at sea)
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NOT MY PHOTOS
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October 2017
Superstructure
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having completed most of the after superstructure lets get the front end sorted and replace the card bits
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will update more tomorrow
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Something tells me this isn't your first go at building a model ship!
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:-)) :-)) :-))
Something tells me this isn't your first go at building a model ship!
although no a fully scratch build as the hull was bought and some of the fittings as well, but this is my first non kit
1/72 Caldercraft HMS Victory
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1/200 Trumpeter Bismarck
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October 2017
the bridge was built separately, as i want to put some seperate electrics in, plus at this time i had considered making the this section a permanent part of the build, so that i could attach some of the superstructure to it
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After funnel
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and the same process for the forward one
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November 2017
funnel tops and signal area/forward mast
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November 2017
After Bulkhead
this took me a while to get right, it forms part of the Seaslug magazine bulkhead and loading area for the launcher, bu as per the plans i seam to have made it look the part for now
NOT MY PHOTO
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Seaslug Launcher
no way in the world i was going to build this, to far above my skill sets, i did add a few extra bits on to give it more life
NOT MY PHOTO
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So Scale warship came to my rescue
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added a few extra bits to give some life
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In December i made up the Forward mast out of 0.5mm Plasticard amd more work on the signal deck/fwd funnel
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Signal deck
not my photo and this is HMS Hampshire
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lol i even gave the area a wooden deck but as this photo shows it did not have one
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Hi Kevin,
Welcome to the forum, and what a way to introduce yourself! I am enjoying your build log and appreciate the mixture of scratch built, Printed and Fibreglass parts. I expect the launcher would have been a long project in it's own right if scratch built. Is the printing medium a stronger material to fend off light bonks and bashes?
I look forward to your next instalment :-))
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I am enjoying your built. She is huge. I work in 1/48th and can not imagine what she would be like there. Your Sea Slug launcher is spectacular. #D printing is making such a huge leap forward in this hobby, expensive, but the results are worth it. Great build, great effort, and she'll be an impressive best on the water.
Jonathan :-))
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Good morning everyone
Thank you for the comments
i doubt that my build will ever see water, and there are several reasons for this
at 83" long she will not fit in my car plus any cradle will make her longer
i have used MDF to build the structure up, and even though covered it would very quickly get damp, and heavy
BUt i have left open the opportunity that once completed i or someone could convert her to a water based build, after all the she will need some sort of running gear, just to be seen as a shelf mounted build
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Hi Kevin,
Welcome to the forum, and what a way to introduce yourself! I am enjoying your build log and appreciate the mixture of scratch built, Printed and Fibreglass parts. I expect the launcher would have been a long project in it's own right if scratch built. Is the printing medium a stronger material to fend off light bonks and bashes?
I look forward to your next instalment :-))
the launcher its self if held correctly is quite strong, i think it would be quite easily damaged if something was to knock it
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electrics
Bulkhead lights
i would like to put quite a lot into the build so as to learn what i can/cannot do, i am still learning how to solder, but everything i have done still works
having said that the bulkhead lights, bought from fleetscale are not designed for what i want them for, in this this photo i drill,filed the backs of them out and glued them over a hole which contained a led, but as you can see there is a lot of escaping light, so the way ahead will be to make my own castings from resin and put a led directly into the resin (watch this space)
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hanger lighting
i have done several attempts at this, and non of it is very pretty so will be done again, infact the whole of the hanger will perhaps have to be remade as it is a very tight fit to get the hanger roof on properly
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finishing the main superstructure, apart from the bridge area
rightly or wrongly, i made the choice to build in mdf with a plastic covering, having made a mock up of everything in card, so it was a simple copying exercise wasnt it , WRONG, copying is fine if the card version was correct, this is where i found the plans very frustrating, the lines are very thick, to much detail is shown which hides detail that needs to be seen, so a few times the dremmel came out to change things
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NOT MY PHOTO but shows the area that had to be corrected
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Early February 2018
at this stage most of the superstructure was in place and with a covering of plastic, the exception being the bridge module
i hope i have not missed any thing out, and if i have i have a full diary of everything done and happy to answer any questions
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Deatailing
Hanger
yes there is some artistic licence, i have phots from the CCD site http://countyclassdestroyers.co.uk/ (http://countyclassdestroyers.co.uk/)
but of the 8 hulls built, then split into 2 batches, they all had there own differences,
this after bulkhead was one of the big visual differences, the tower on the right was only fitted to Fife, and was a replenishment at sea tower rig
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hanger doors
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i am having to learn lots of new ways of doing things, making grill and vents
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the small vents come from a lovely gentleman who owns a company called modelling timbers http://www.modellingtimbers.co.uk/1.html
unfortunately he is packing up due to ill health
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as i bring my build up to date, here are a few things i have scratched so far
Seaslug RAS Rig,
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towed array winch
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March 2018
simulated non slip on the quarterdeck
the thought of doing this really put me off and kept finding ways to avoid it, but once i started it was quickly hooked and may have over done it
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so now that has brought me up to date, and will continue to post weekly, providing there is the interest out there to follow me on my HMS Fife build, thankyou for those who have already shown an interest
Presently i am trying to sort the bridge windows out and hope to have an update by Sunday night
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Excellent work and the detail brings back fond memories, well done keep up the good work. :-))
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Renamed topic on request
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Hello Kevin
very nice build . Some great modeling work .
I you seen these leds ,very small SMD 0402 1mm by 0.5mm
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/T0603WM-T0402-1206-Pre-soldered-micro-litz-wired-leads-SMD-Led-Mutil-color-20pcs/201482969362?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=500662844008&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Thanks for the link to the models timber shop . looks a great on line shop ,some real nice stuff .
John
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John thank you, not seen them before i will look into them in some detail, mine are still to big
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I have used them a lot . very good . Wire is a nightmare as its so small to see at at 0.5mm dia . I find two in series with a 5k ohm resistor works well on 12v
john
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She's coming on a treat and love the anti slip work. It looks pretty neat.
I await your next update with glee :}
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good evening everyone
thank you for the messages and comments
the Bridge was to be my last big module to complete, and i messed it up, the plans show two lower middle windows, but these were moved/hidden because of the Exocet blast defectors being in the way, just where they were moved to was where the module supports were, so i did not get a decent cut on them, so will either have to redo, or make them slightly larger
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Hi Kevin
That’s all part of the fun! For a few years on one of our projects we didn’t know about a window on our Walton ASRL until a very clear photo was provided in a magazine which changed everything. We ended up rebuilding the superstructure but only because it was rubbish- it was a first model from 13 years ago!
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Hi Kevin
That’s all part of the fun! For a few years on one of our projects we didn’t know about a window on our Walton ASRL until a very clear photo was provided in a magazine which changed everything. We ended up rebuilding the superstructure but only because it was rubbish- it was a first model from 13 years ago!
Nick i just had to go and find out whet a Walton ASRL was the jecobin plans are all i have for my main reference, there being no books, but have now got a nice selection of photo,s which show so much more
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Hi Kevin great subject my father worked on HMS Devonshire whilst in Lairds back in the late 50s
Bowwave :-))
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county class destroyers by Neil Mccart, covers all ships.
Bob
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county class destroyers by Neil Mccart, covers all ships.
Bob
Thank you Bob, but i was refering to a reference book decicated to the GMD class, like the type 42,s
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Osprey British GMD, nice little book
Bob
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Osprey British GMD, nice little book
Bob
Thank you Bob
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Stunning work once again/ I just can’t enough of the detail you’ve put in to this fantastic model. Can’t wait for the next instalment.
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Stunning work once again/ I just can’t enough of the detail you’ve put in to this fantastic model. Can’t wait for the next instalment.
Its bank holiday weekend, and we have some DIY planned, but i hope to get some time on the build, I will be looking at the Exocet system and its associated equipment