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Title: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: Cornishman on April 16, 2018, 02:36:41 PM
    New series following the new Queen Elizabeth carrier started on BBC2 20:00 hrs last evening.
Gives a very good look around the ship.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: Baldrick on April 16, 2018, 04:38:50 PM
  Episode 1 all went fine until they had a mega pipe leak in the condensate pipework which was routed over the high voltage dis panel  %% and flooded out the electrickery . Lucky they did not frizzle anyone  They have just found a nasty noise in the rear propshaft bearing which means it is back to Pompey for episode 2 .


 The thing that amazed me was that the prop blades were not fitted to the hubs until the ship was almost finished and ready to sail. A heavy difficult job for the divers.


Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: gingyer on April 16, 2018, 04:50:14 PM

 The thing that amazed me was that the prop blades were not fitted to the hubs until the ship was almost finished and ready to sail. A heavy difficult job for the divers.



If I remember correctly this was done so they could run the engines and turn the shafts in the dock with out fear of it moving forward....

Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: McGherkin on April 16, 2018, 05:09:23 PM
She was fitted with very minimal pitch propellors originally to allow for basin trials, then they were changed for the 'final' props once complete. If I remember correctly, there were rails fitted which took the weight of the propellor blade and guided it from the position it was slung into the water, to the hub.

The dive team that did that have done some work with us in the past, that kind of work is our bread and butter.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: Colin Bishop on April 16, 2018, 06:13:36 PM
Very impressive job. Anyone know if they have fixed the leaking seal yet? That was due to be done while the ship is afloat too.

The lean manning concept is interesting to, proportionately she needs far less crew than the US carriers but they will be more versatile and highly trained.

Having been aboard the Invincible class at Navy Days (remember them?), I was struck by just how much bigger QE is. She was an amazing sight coming into Portsmouth for the first time last year. Hopefully I will get the chance to se the PoW when she makes her entry as well.

Colin
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: Bob K on April 16, 2018, 10:20:08 PM
Interesting programme, with more episodes to come.

Incidentally, we were in Pompey on Thursday and were surprised to see both islands encased in scaffolding and the flight deck covered in big frame tents.  Just wondered what they are doing to her now.

When the Prince of Wales arrives the two ships together will look doubly awesome.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 17, 2018, 07:03:10 AM
I believe they are adding bits and pieces for the next stage of the trials programme. The scaffolding is required due to H&S requirements (!).
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: derekwarner on April 17, 2018, 07:56:17 AM
"deck covered in big frame tents" ....usually indicates a ships BBQ [& for all of the shore side Desk Admirals]  O0
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: Netleyned on April 17, 2018, 08:04:08 AM
Or a Sods Opera :D :D


Nef
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: Martin [Admin] on April 17, 2018, 10:11:26 AM

News: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42406138

TV program: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0b08zpp/britains-biggest-warship-series-1-1-crewing-up

Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: Baldrick on April 22, 2018, 09:09:22 PM
Well episode 2.
Turns out the rumble in the stern was a misplaced seal in prop /hub that allowed prop blade to rotate and was potential to tear prop, shaft and mounting blocks out of the hull That could have been nasty.     Programme has some interesting moments when they can get off the refuse disposal problems.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: Buccaneer on April 22, 2018, 09:38:26 PM
Good to see that 'Thimblehunt' remains. Most other organisations would have given it a politically correct non sexist name by now! I Did my last one 40 years ago.
John
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: Bob K on April 22, 2018, 10:21:25 PM
And we thought we had problems coupling shafts on model boats  >:-o

My first thought on that vibration issue was a misaligned plastic UJ coupling.  Wrong of course
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: McGherkin on April 22, 2018, 10:58:08 PM
Crikey, this was almost a diving special.


Is it just me or is the EWO’s office a total mess? I can’t see that amount of ebay tat being allowed 20-30 years ago?
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: jonggd on August 04, 2018, 08:12:22 PM
Spent a couple of days in Portsmouth with the family, during which we visited the Historic Dockyard and took a boat tour of the harbor where Queen Elizabeth was berthed. She is having a lot of work carried out and during the visit the divers were working on her, don't now what they were inspecting/fixing. Took a few pictures. Jon
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: rnli12 on August 04, 2018, 10:24:56 PM
Probably poker gauge readings on the A brackets to check for wear on the bearings.


Rich
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 04, 2018, 10:27:11 PM
The faulty shaft seal was supposed to be fixed in situ while the ship is afloat so maybe someting to do with that.
Colin
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: derekwarner on August 04, 2018, 11:01:53 PM
Divers inspecting the undersides of a Warship when berthed is absolutely standard Training & Practice let alone any maintenance activity

It is clear that [again] the two large white A profile Marquee tents on the foredeck could hold and host many a Deckchair Admiral's Drinks & Buffett's  8) evenings

Too early to see during this docking, however the Fwd/Port Phalanx CIWS is still conspicuous by its absence

Derek
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: rnli12 on August 05, 2018, 12:01:46 AM
Flight deck adhesion and non slip testing
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on August 05, 2018, 03:46:31 AM
Flight deck adhesion and non slip testing


Yes, I believe they are trying to get the new heatproof deck covering to stick to the flight deck, don't you love modern technology!
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: Baldrick on August 05, 2018, 08:56:39 AM



  Seagull droppings
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: McGherkin on August 05, 2018, 09:32:31 AM
Probably poker gauge readings on the A brackets to check for wear on the bearings.


Rich


Bane of my life! But yes, probably this, checking the alignment of the blades, prop cleaning, aft end survey, fitting blanks.... there’s a lot it could be and totally normal.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: Rob47 on August 05, 2018, 10:26:30 PM

On a course last week at HMNB and divers were checking lots, normal procedure, until Facebook get hold of it


Bob
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: Colin Bishop on October 20, 2018, 05:31:47 PM
Very good shots of QE arriving in New York here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35NA0GDCeNI

It seems that Jerry Kyd's stint as captain is now over, somebody else taking over for the second part of the F35 trials.

Colin
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: Colin Bishop on November 05, 2018, 12:15:25 PM
Does anyone know when the ship will be returning to Portsmouth? I don't suppose the actual date will be announced until shortly beforehand but a lot of people will be wanting to welcome her home from her first deployment.
Colin
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: gingyer on November 05, 2018, 03:19:17 PM
its just started phase 2 trials of the F35 so not for a while yet I would expect.


the final phase 3 trials are scheduled for 2019, so it may be away for christmas
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: Colin Bishop on November 05, 2018, 03:39:17 PM
That would be a very long time away I would have thought. I did see a reference to a 3 month deployment when she sailed initially which would bring her back for Christmas. She also has a lot of civilian staff aboard for the trials and wbile these could possibly be flown home it would mean they would not be available for continuing the trials.

The Portsmouth News appears to believe that the intention is to return before Christmas, weather and other circumstances permitting.

Colin
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: gingyer on November 20, 2018, 01:20:04 PM
Colin, I read today the QE is due back in mid December all going well
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: Colin Bishop on November 20, 2018, 02:23:06 PM
Thanks, I will keep an eye on th QHM and Portsmouth News sites nearer the time.

Just bought new tickets for the dockyard at 50% off this week. Present ones don't run out until 20 Dec but new ones are activated on your first visit at any time.


Colin
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: Netleyned on November 20, 2018, 04:22:34 PM
Get the girls and boys home for Christmas
My deployments were 18 months.
Straddled two Christmas's sometimes.
My heart bleeds at a few standeasys away
Spent 83 days at sea on the Big E
Ned
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: mikearace on November 20, 2018, 04:49:26 PM
Only did one deployment away and also covering the 77 firemans strike in Worthing over crimbo periods but when in port or shore bases I always volunteered for crimbo duty and taking late leave.  Nice easy two weeks over the festive time with little to do then regaling everyone returning with cries of SLIB. 
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: Netleyned on November 20, 2018, 05:26:50 PM
Second leave is best :-))
I had a Landy with 4 ba trained
Guys for Hospital evacs in Central London
Ned
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
Post by: Colin Bishop on December 07, 2018, 11:46:52 AM
Now confirmed that planned return to Portsmouth for QE is Monday 10th at 13:20.
Colin