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Technical, Techniques, Hints, and Tips => The "Black Arts!" ( Electrics & Electronics ) => Topic started by: Hotglove on August 04, 2018, 03:57:58 pm

Title: Battery operated Hurricane lamp
Post by: Hotglove on August 04, 2018, 03:57:58 pm
Hi all, I thought you might be interested in some miniature lamps that I bought from a dolls house site.
Mine are chrome but they are available in brass, copper and antique (dark) as well.
Surprisingly well made, all metal (respond to a magnet) 50mm tall they are supposed to be 1/12 scale but fit very well in my 1/8 Dumas Chris Craft so might be a little large for 1/12.
I paid £13 ea and they came with spare batteries which fit in the base, have since seen them for £10.99 (grrr)
Title: Re: Battery operated Hurricane lamp
Post by: tizdaz on August 05, 2018, 12:19:31 am
ermm, website :) ?
Title: Re: Battery operated Hurricane lamp
Post by: andrewh on August 05, 2018, 03:51:27 am

Good find, Hotglove!

This sounds similar, but not cheaper


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-12-Scale-LED-Copper-Victorian-Style-Battery-Oil-Lamp-Dolls-House-Light-5084c-/192282610861


and


http://www.rushalldollshouse.co.uk/shop/led-oil-lamp-brass/
andrew



Title: Re: Battery operated Hurricane lamp
Post by: Hotglove on August 05, 2018, 07:25:41 am
Hi Andrew,
Yes, same product, prices vary wildly, I will have a google and try to locate the lowest price site.
Title: Re: Battery operated Hurricane lamp
Post by: Hotglove on August 05, 2018, 07:51:31 am
Minimum World have a very similar item in copper at £8.99 in their sale.
Title: Re: Battery operated Hurricane lamp
Post by: nemesis on August 06, 2018, 07:41:41 pm
very good, quick and easy, just flick a switch. Do miss the nostalgic hiss of a Tilley lamp. nemesis
Title: Re: Battery operated Hurricane lamp
Post by: derekwarner on August 07, 2018, 12:04:27 am
In Australia....[in the 40's & 50's?] the lamp we now call a Hurricane Lamp was just a Kero Lamp with a flat woven cotton wick that as it burnt down could be advanced by a small ratchet thumb & finger wheel

These were pretty simple & could be lit by a 10 year old under supervision by an elder......if you were in line of sight & a few feet away, they were pretty good at keeping the mozzies away, but did not produce too many Candle Power  {-)

Now the Tilly Lamp was a completely different kettle of fish :o.......usually a stainless body with a throttling plunger to pressurize and then partially atomise Methylated Spirit again to a cotton wick which seemed never to burn down....and yes Nemesis, that constant hissing sound O0

[not sure if these are now considered pressure vessels?]

These lamps produced so many extra bright Candle Power......that would illuminate the water in the bay where 100's of  prawn catchers walked about in the shallows  & trying to get one of the 50 or so prawns to jump into a net

So, there was also a clear distinction between the seasoned professional amateur prawn catcher as they placed their Tilly Lamps in small open hulled planked  model boats....whereas the Saturday night amateur amateur would have a child holding the Hurricane Lamp just above the water and being constantly yelled at 'don't let the Lamp glass shell be splashed upon by the water'.....[or your life wasn't worth living]

So if it is a miniature Hurricane Lamp being considered.....just the faintest glow of light would be sufficient

Derek
Title: Re: Battery operated Hurricane lamp
Post by: malcolmfrary on August 07, 2018, 09:33:58 am
In Australia....[in the 40's & 50's?] the lamp we now call a Hurricane Lamp was just a Kero Lamp with a flat woven cotton wick that as it burnt down could be advanced by a small ratchet thumb & finger wheel

These were pretty simple & could be lit by a 10 year old under supervision by an elder......if you were in line of sight & a few feet away, they were pretty good at keeping the mozzies away, but did not produce too many Candle Power  {-)

Now the Tilly Lamp was a completely different kettle of fish :o .......usually a stainless body with a throttling plunger to pressurize and then partially atomise Methylated Spirit again to a cotton wick which seemed never to burn down....and yes Nemesis, that constant hissing sound O0

[not sure if these are now considered pressure vessels?]

These lamps produced so many extra bright Candle Power......that would illuminate the water in the bay where 100's of  prawn catchers walked about in the shallows  & trying to get one of the 50 or so prawns to jump into a net

So, there was also a clear distinction between the seasoned professional amateur prawn catcher as they placed their Tilly Lamps in small open hulled planked  model boats....whereas the Saturday night amateur amateur would have a child holding the Hurricane Lamp just above the water and being constantly yelled at 'don't let the Lamp glass shell be splashed upon by the water'.....[or your life wasn't worth living]

So if it is a miniature Hurricane Lamp being considered.....just the faintest glow of light would be sufficient

Derek
A plain wick lamp would give out about the same light as a candle - same technology.  Tilley were the first with pressure lamps and became the generic name for them, a bit like Hoover and vacuum cleaners.  The "wick" part would be more in the nature of a mantle - ceramic coated cloth gauze.  The flame from the burning liquid (meths, kerosene, whatever) or vapour would cause the ceramic to glow (incandescent effect).  The lumps on the model probably represent a pressurizing plunger and a control to adjust the flow. 
Title: Re: Battery operated Hurricane lamp
Post by: derekwarner on August 07, 2018, 03:53:56 pm
"The "wick" part would be more in the nature of a mantle - ceramic coated cloth gauze" .....

thanks Malcolm......I was only remembering from the eyes of a 5 year old... %)......