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Title: Matt varnish?
Post by: birlinn on August 09, 2018, 06:04:07 pm: Anyone know of a really matt varnish? I've tried some test pieces, and Humbrol's matt coat is still a bit too glossy for me.
Not aerosol- I want to add a wee bit of colour to weather things down a bit.
Phil
Title: Re: Matt varnish?
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 09, 2018, 06:13:44 pm: Humbrol No 49 tinlet Matt Varnish seems to give a very good matt finish although perhaps a little soft.
Colin
Title: Re: Matt varnish?
Post by: birlinn on August 09, 2018, 06:16:04 pm: Thanks, Colin.
Will try- I'm over to Englandshire in the 2CV next week, and will pick up a tin.
Title: Re: Matt varnish?
Post by: ballastanksian on August 09, 2018, 07:12:04 pm: I use Humbrol 49 from tinlets and have done for a good twelve years but you have to give it a really really god stir followed by another good stir to get all the contents mixed well. I had one tin that came out like butterscotch in colour and like caramel in consistency but this is one in twenty odd tins bought.
Title: Re: Matt varnish?
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 09, 2018, 08:11:47 pm: A lot depends on what you are trying to achieve.
Humbrol matt 49 is good for fittings and wood trim etc. but I wouldn't want to use it on a hull for example where something like Ronseal polyurethane mattcote gives just a slight sheen and resists marks much better.
Colin
Title: Re: Matt varnish?
Post by: Howard on August 09, 2018, 08:24:41 pm: Hi years ago you could buy a tube of matting agent but not sure if you can still get it you put a bit in a little at time till you get to the finish you want low sheen to very matt good luck if you can find some.
regards Howard.
Title: Re: Matt varnish?
Post by: MikeK on August 10, 2018, 11:48:32 am: Just Googled 'matting agent' and there were quite a few options there
Mike
Title: Re: Matt varnish?
Post by: Baldrick on August 10, 2018, 07:18:39 pm: If you just want to take the shine off, a light rub with some metal polish such as solvol autosol but watch out for edges and corners . Too energetic and you will take it them back to wood. Automotive rubbing compound will achieve the same.
Title: Re: Matt varnish?
Post by: Onetenor on August 11, 2018, 01:08:20 am: Metal polish will "Shine" the paint not dull it. That's my experience.
Title: Re: Matt varnish?
Post by: Baldrick on August 11, 2018, 07:35:44 am: Quote from: john mantova on August 11, 2018, 01:08:20 am
Metal polish will "Shine" the paint not dull it. That's my experience.

It will smooth the paint surface but will not produce a glass like shine of a gloss lacquer, at least with the products I have used.
Title: Re: Matt varnish?
Post by: Andyn on August 11, 2018, 01:47:22 pm: Hannants Xtracolour Matt Varnish is a lot better than humbrol and easier to clean out an airbrush. Thins well and produces a very matt finish
Title: Re: Matt varnish?
Post by: phil_parker on August 13, 2018, 04:03:14 pm: Testors Dullcote - nothing better.

http://www.ngtrains.com/Pages/Glues/gluestools.html#Potions
Title: Re: Matt varnish?
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 13, 2018, 05:34:29 pm: It's worth bearing in mind the the more matt the finish, the more prone it tends to be to pick up marks or staining.
Colin
Title: Re: Matt varnish?
Post by: Arrow5 on August 13, 2018, 09:45:11 pm: Quote from: Colin Bishop on August 13, 2018, 05:34:29 pm
It's worth bearing in mind the the more matt the finish, the more prone it tends to be to pick up marks or staining.
Colin
not exactly a problem with working boats :} I like Revell #2 tinlets for really matt but agree the slight sheen of the matt-polyurethene is better to look like painted metal at our viewing distances & in photographs.While buying paint here are a couple of pics of a working boat`s deck, might be handy.
Title: Re: Matt varnish?
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Title: Re: Matt varnish?
Post by: Colin Bishop on September 04, 2018, 10:43:10 pm: I do think there is a difference between expertly applied weathering and just letting your boat get dirty!
Colin