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Title: Tanker collides with Norwegian Warship
Post by: Colin Bishop on November 08, 2018, 06:17:46 pm
There has been a dramatic collision between a Maltese tanker and a Norwegian frigate. The frigate has been run aground to prevent total loss.
https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2018/11/08/norwegian-warship-collides-with-oil-tanker-on-way-home-from-nato-exercise/ (https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2018/11/08/norwegian-warship-collides-with-oil-tanker-on-way-home-from-nato-exercise/)
Colin
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwgian Warship
Post by: Taranis on November 08, 2018, 06:22:33 pm
A good job there isn’t a war on  {-)  all that detection equipment at their disposal and not taken out by anything stealthy but rather a very very big piece of metal  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwgian Warship
Post by: tr7v8 on November 08, 2018, 07:37:46 pm
On another site they were saying that the Warship had no AIS switched on. View here of the tugs pushing it ashore to stop

https://twitter.com/PhConstantini/status/1060527948212723712 (https://twitter.com/PhConstantini/status/1060527948212723712)
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwgian Warship
Post by: Taranis on November 08, 2018, 07:44:53 pm
So glad it isn’t our navy but we don’t negotiate bridges too well  {-)
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwgian Warship
Post by: Plastic - RIP on November 08, 2018, 07:54:15 pm
Looks pretty well finished to me.
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwgian Warship
Post by: Taranis on November 08, 2018, 07:57:21 pm
I suspect a Norwegian captain will have his nuts squeezed very tightly and be lucky to get another job.
Eyes on deck is so simple
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwgian Warship
Post by: Baldrick on November 08, 2018, 08:30:09 pm
Malta -1 Norway 0..     I suppose that up in darkest Norway in winter having a stealth ship painted drab grey is asking for trouble.
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwgian Warship
Post by: tr7v8 on November 08, 2018, 09:00:46 pm
This was the link I thought I pasted
https://twitter.com/PhConstantini/status/1060527948212723712 (https://twitter.com/PhConstantini/status/1060527948212723712)


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Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwgian Warship
Post by: ballastanksian on November 08, 2018, 10:01:59 pm
They can save her at a cost of course :)
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwgian Warship
Post by: cos918 on November 08, 2018, 10:58:56 pm
what's happening at the moment . There seems to be a spate of boats colliding

John
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwgian Warship
Post by: tigertiger on November 09, 2018, 01:14:37 am
what's happening at the moment . There seems to be a spate of boats colliding

John

Yes, especially military boats.  It might just be that with the internet we hear about these things more, as there are specialist websites that enthusiasts follow, and maybe send an email to the press if they see something interesting.
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwgian Warship
Post by: Brian60 on November 09, 2018, 08:24:36 am
This sentence taken from the report that Colin posted suggests that the warship was at anchor or docked when hit.......

The ship, a Fridtjof Nansen-class vessel, was hit by the Maltese-flagged oil tanker Sola TS around 4 a.m. local time while docked in Sture, north of Bergen, on Norway’s western coast.
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwgian Warship
Post by: JimG on November 09, 2018, 11:57:12 am
Looking at some photos in the news this morning it does appear to have a rather large hole in the starboard side near the stern, extending above the deck level.

Jim
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwegian Warship
Post by: Plastic - RIP on November 13, 2018, 02:44:33 pm
Oops...
Now it has sunk.

Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwegian Warship
Post by: Netleyned on November 13, 2018, 03:40:52 pm
If it was already aground as reported, then methinks the tide has risen a tad O0
Ned
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwegian Warship
Post by: Plastic - RIP on November 13, 2018, 03:52:08 pm
No - it broke loose and slid into deeper water.
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwegian Warship
Post by: Neil on November 13, 2018, 04:27:21 pm
No - it broke loose and slid into deeper water.



She has been declared a total right off and all sensitive equipment is to be removed, plus all harmful contaminants, before any more attempts are made to remove it, so the press is now saying, before she can be removed for scrapping...…..I presume one of the more notable companies will be on their way at this moment to evaluate the situation.


what a sad end to such a beautiful looking ship.
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwegian Warship
Post by: Netleyned on November 13, 2018, 04:34:53 pm
No - it broke loose and slid into deeper water.


Doesn't say much for the guy in charge of the salvage op :o
Seeing any vessel in that position is a sad sight.
Not caused by enemy action makes it even more sad.
Ned
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwegian Warship
Post by: warspite on November 14, 2018, 09:15:03 am
Dont they have navy divers - a big steel plate with some thick foam strip - a number of inflatable bladders and some of that foam that expands as it comes out of the can.


even in WW2 they managed to keep vessels bigger than this afloat without sinking - well not for a while anyway.


discuss  %)
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwegian Warship
Post by: Colin Bishop on November 14, 2018, 09:22:03 am
Looked like a pretty big hole to me, nearly half the starboard side ripped away which would have opened a lot of compartments to the sea including the engineering spaces.
Colin
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwegian Warship
Post by: warspite on November 14, 2018, 09:24:34 am
so it was a titanic moment went the tanker hit
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwegian Warship
Post by: Plastic - RIP on November 14, 2018, 09:28:11 am
I'm surprised that considering the high value of this ship and the small annual budgets of their navy that they were so slow to try to save the ship.
Especially for a nation famed for their naval engineering.
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwegian Warship
Post by: C-3PO on November 14, 2018, 09:48:42 am
https://news.usni.org/2018/11/08/video-norwegian-frigate-intentionally-grounded-collision-tanker


(https://modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2018/11/14/ship.png)

C-3PO

Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwegian Warship
Post by: Colin Bishop on November 14, 2018, 10:02:19 am
We don't know the salvage circumstances or readily available facilities. The ship had been run aground and was precariously perched on some rocks with deep water on one side. They managed to get cables to her to try and stabilise her but they broke and the ship slid off. By the look of the damage there wasn't much prospect of refloating her without some form of external support and that takes time to arrange.
Colin
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwegian Warship
Post by: Colin Bishop on November 14, 2018, 10:08:20 am
Interesting informatuion about the collision here:
https://medium.com/@cargun/radar-images-audio-log-of-knm-helge-ingstad-frigate-sola-ts-oil-tanker-collision-a71e3f516b54
Colin
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwegian Warship
Post by: derekwarner on November 14, 2018, 02:23:45 pm
I have a little difficulty in understanding the long delays in speech response between both vessels leading up to the point of collision, and together with trying to sync the audio to the radar log  :o


The circumstances here with the KNM Helge Instad do appear different to the recent USS Fitzgerald & USS McCain loss of navigational awareness


Derek
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwegian Warship
Post by: Neil on November 14, 2018, 04:06:43 pm
nowt  bit o' P38 won't fix,.....get to it lads...…….heard that gorilla glue is good for underwater jobs too, {-) %% %%
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwegian Warship
Post by: Netleyned on November 14, 2018, 04:32:17 pm
Nowt wrong with Sola TS
She has just left from a visit to Tetney Monobuoy.


Ned
Title: Re: Tanker collides with Norwegian Warship
Post by: dodes on December 02, 2018, 05:34:09 pm
She is now probably scrap value only with all that salt water in her. But probably like Nottingham for political reasons will be salvaged!!