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Title: Martin & Baylis Engine
Post by: Bernhard on March 01, 2019, 09:22:10 am
 
Hello Bernhard. ( I did ask for price of the 2 cylinder engine, I am bringing out a piston valve single servo twin engine in the nest few months, I have attached a few pictures of the prototype for you so you can get an idea of what it will look like.

795€
 
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Post by: tghsmith on March 01, 2019, 10:42:22 am
sizes and specs please?
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Post by: Bernhard on March 01, 2019, 01:55:22 pm
hi  .i dont know,, he just send me the photos,,,but,,look a his side,,there you can see the other 2 cylinder he make, ,,
                     
http://model-steam-engines.com/product/twin-cylinder-steam-engine/

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Post by: Mark T on March 01, 2019, 03:33:34 pm
That is lovely - can't wait to see the actual dimensions!
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Post by: KNO3 on March 03, 2019, 09:47:49 pm
A very nice looking engine. I assume it is just made to look like a compound, but both cylinders have the same bore?
Title: Re: Martin.Baylis Engine
Post by: rhavrane on March 04, 2019, 07:10:14 am
Bonjour Calin,
You are right, this is a twin in fact , I saw one during our last Atlantica Steam event on 2018, I should watch my videos to find it...
Title: Re: Martin.Baylis Engine
Post by: Bernhard on May 06, 2019, 11:03:10 pm
hi,, one from ,,JMC  france,,
tell more Rafhael,,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwf6xpOpKao (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwf6xpOpKao)
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Post by: rhavrane on May 07, 2019, 06:39:19 pm
Bonjour Bernhard,
More information added to the comment you kindly posted on the video  ok2
Title: Re: Martin.Baylis Engine
Post by: Bernhard on September 30, 2019, 08:37:50 am
hi.. Here is a real Compound engine made by JMC in France,, im not shure if i will ordre this or the new Martin Baylis look alike compound
in the end of the video there is the new MB engine,, Thanks Rafhael
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHYDk3-TAEM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHYDk3-TAEM)
Title: Re: Martin.Baylis Engine
Post by: rhavrane on September 30, 2019, 03:31:41 pm
Bonjour,
England has Rolls-Royce for reference quality cars, She also has Martin Baylis for the reference quality steam, engines and boats.
You already know the Der SeeKadett or the Topaz, but not yet his new "Project X". I have been honored to film it and to discuss with Martin :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPLj-5f_mKs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPLj-5f_mKs)
And as we usually say, the quality has no price !
For this special compound, JMC made only three of them, and I am the happy owner of one installed in my "speed" boat :
The classic compound : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tpREH2SVi0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tpREH2SVi0)
The new one in action : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3YMJIslBEI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3YMJIslBEI)

These compounds have no reverse.
Title: Re: Martin.Baylis Engine
Post by: rhavrane on September 30, 2019, 05:51:25 pm
Bonjour,
Just a complementary information, Martin's engines are not real compounds but piston valve so they have acceleration and reverse with one servo.
JMC engines are real compounds, with dead points but they can be equipped with Stephensons's side valves which allow the reverse with a second servo : Example on my triple expansion : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPt0ouL8kzc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPt0ouL8kzc)
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Post by: Bernhard on October 08, 2019, 08:20:17 am
Martin Baylis Engine Ready,, i will get 1 after 2-3 weeks
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Post by: KNO3 on October 08, 2019, 12:38:12 pm
I looks simply beautiful!
Title: Re: Martin.Baylis Engine
Post by: Bernhard on November 13, 2019, 02:48:59 pm
https://youtu.be/ZeN6qTCDdIU
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Post by: KNO3 on November 13, 2019, 06:17:44 pm
Very nice steam plant. What did you use to insulate the steam pipes?
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Post by: Bernhard on November 13, 2019, 07:49:11 pm
Thanks..it is Something i use to come over the copperwire when i make MY tattoo coils

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Post by: derekwarner on November 13, 2019, 09:10:33 pm
Indeed a very nice M&B plant setup there Bernhard  %) ......is that the newer Microcosm water pump with the o-ring sealed poppet check valves?......
We also see the pump body is stamped with the symbol for a check valve  ......-------<0------


1. do you find it suitable to pump against the boiler pressure?
2. is this an anti vacuum valve on top of the water glass?
3. are you reheating the exhaust steam after the de-olier?


I do like the miniature 2 x turn siphon on the boiler pressure gauge  :-))


Derek


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Post by: Bernhard on November 13, 2019, 11:03:29 pm
Thanks Derek...... Yes a Jin made pump from China...have used them in many boats,,strong pump,,no problem agaist 45-50 psi,,i have one made with el motor,deliver a lot of water,,
yes a vaccum valve i did..no i don heat it,,


Regards Bernhard
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Post by: derekwarner on November 13, 2019, 11:29:24 pm
So Bernhard......this miniature 2 x turn siphon on the boiler pressure gauge  [/size]  is actually on the steam pressure against the gas regulator diaphragm?


We also see the main boiler pressure gauge does not have the conventional 
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siphon, but a round bar shaped component....does this have some sort of dampening effect to keep the steam off the burden tube?The Skipper as always also looks the part {-)


Derek
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Post by: Bernhard on November 13, 2019, 11:44:48 pm
.. yes it have,, don by Martin B...
Title: Re: Martin & Baylis Engine
Post by: Bernhard on November 21, 2019, 08:32:42 am
so ready it is,,,



https://youtu.be/bEqQl-UxTlg (https://youtu.be/bEqQl-UxTlg)

Title: Re: Martin & Baylis Engine
Post by: Pragmatist on December 04, 2019, 10:48:51 pm
I think this is the one I’ve ordered from Martin a couple of days ago. Beautiful engine.
Title: Re: Martin & Baylis Engine
Post by: southsteyne2 on December 05, 2019, 10:22:22 pm
Hi without sounding critical the engine looks beautiful but somewhat noisy is that the feed water pump also would like to see covers over the slide valve rods which is a potential spot for steam loss ,open to commentCheers and merry Christmas to all
John
Title: Re: Martin & Baylis Engine
Post by: Bernhard on December 06, 2019, 07:43:02 am
Thanks. YES  . it is the feed pump,the Axel driv part was to lose,,,,the engine is completely silent,,

Title: Re: Martin & Baylis Engine
Post by: KNO3 on December 06, 2019, 07:22:40 pm
Hi without sounding critical the engine looks beautiful but somewhat noisy is that the feed water pump also would like to see covers over the slide valve rods which is a potential spot for steam loss ,open to commentCheers and merry Christmas to all
John


It looks like it has adjustable glands for the slide valve and piston rods, which should prevent leakage.
Title: Re: Martin & Baylis Engine
Post by: ooyah/2 on December 06, 2019, 11:36:25 pm
Hi without sounding critical the engine looks beautiful but somewhat noisy is that the feed water pump also would like to see covers over the slide valve rods which is a potential spot for steam loss ,open to commentCheers and merry Christmas to all
John





Hi John,
Yes I agree it's a beautiful engine and it must cost a fortune that would make your eyes water and a big hole in your bank book.
It beats me as to why manufacturers make piston valve engines that don't have seals top and bottom of the piston to stop leaks, if you look closely at the engine running there is already steam leaks from top and bottom, very little at the moment but will become greater the more the engine is run.
It is so simple to use an "O" ring held in a recess with a flat plate to retain it to stop leaks top and bottom.


By the way it's not a slide valve engine it's a piston valve which makes it easy to have forward and reverse by switching the steam from one port to the other just like an Oscillator using one servo.


Have a Happy Christmas to all.


George.