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Title: Pilgrim's Pride 1620 Mayflower Static Build
Post by: dlancast on April 05, 2019, 08:54:06 PM
Hello Folks,  I have been commissioned to build Model Shipways "Mayflower" at 5/32"=1ft.  Wood, plank on bulkhead construction.  I would like to post the build here for those interested.  The kit is wonderful and very high quality.  Great instructions, plans and parts and supplies.  She will make for a very nice model and I am honored to be building such a historical vessel.  I am currently in framing and will be posting pictures soon.  Just wanted to give you folks the heads up.  Most of my previous builds have been of Navy war vessels, with a nice English Frigate thrown into the mix some time ago.  Stay tuned, more coming.  Cheers!  Dennis
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Post by: Capt Podge on April 05, 2019, 09:02:08 PM
This is certainly something different Dennis - I'll definitely look in on this one O0

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: Pilgrim's Pride 1620 Mayflower Static Build
Post by: dlancast on April 06, 2019, 03:21:43 AM
Very nice kit, with laser cut framing and other parts, cleanly done and accurate.  Assembly is coming along fast and clean.  Basic frame is together, nice thick bulkheads for solid planking footing.  Moving into gunport framing and then general faring of the hull to prepare for planking.  Its been over a year since  I've done plank on bulkhead, almost forgot how much fun it is. This model will mostly be single layer of planks, so what goes down will be finished product, less room for mistakes.  Sistering and spiling will be done in traditional method.  Bluff bow and stern sweep will require some plank bending prep work on jigs, etc.  So, here we go, hope you folks enjoy the build.  Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on April 06, 2019, 03:22:17 AM
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Post by: Mark T on April 06, 2019, 03:49:00 PM
Nice one Dennis I'm really looking forward to this build. What type of wood do they supply for the planking and decking?  Looks great so far  :-))
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Post by: dlancast on April 06, 2019, 05:43:32 PM
Thanks... the wood appears to be Beech or Bass Wood, they don't say.  It is all the same.  Grain is clear and tight and on the hard side.  No warpage, very clean and alot of it in many different sizes, so less ripping.  Blocks look like Walnut.  Staining and painting are recommended.  Sizes are in inches, so if the plans call for a stick 3/32 x 3/32 inches square, the wood is exactly that measured by steelscale.  I have built a number of Italian kits with great results, but never the precision this kit has.  I think the difference all that will make is less assembly time fiddling with fitting.  We will see about that.  its not a race, but I do have other projects in the wings.  You know how it is.  Dennis
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Post by: Mark T on April 06, 2019, 05:52:32 PM
Sounds great and its nice to hear of a well supplied kit too.  I'm looking forward to the updates - good luck with the build  ok2
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Post by: tigertiger on April 07, 2019, 03:31:30 AM
I am looking forward to watching this build :-))
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Post by: dlancast on April 08, 2019, 07:36:50 PM
Just finished framing the lower deck cannon ports.  I can choose, after hull planking to either show the ports closed or opened with dummy cannon showing just inside.  Next will be the bulkhead edge fairing to prepare for hull planking.  Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on April 09, 2019, 04:31:49 AM
False decks on and counter is double planked at the stern.  Hull planking will begin soon.  Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on April 11, 2019, 04:43:38 AM
And the planking begins.  Kit gives you the option to single or double plank.  First layer is 1/16"x1/8", second will be 1/32"x1/8".  I prefer to double plank, gives me a second try to improve the planking.  Frame is very robust, could plank one side of the hull first, but will just take it down 6 planks from main deck and then do the other side.  That apple bow makes for some difficulty in laying the planks fair.  Requres Spiling for sure.  Have jig for that.  I also have a plank bender tucked away somewhere.  Gonna have to find it.  Its all fun.  Dennis
Title: Re: Pilgrim's Pride 1620 Mayflower Static Build
Post by: dlancast on April 11, 2019, 04:44:07 AM
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Post by: dlancast on April 19, 2019, 07:00:58 PM
Hull planking is going slowly with the first layer of 1/16"x1/8" planks.  Spiling jig shown, does help with bending at bow.  Dennis
Title: Re: Pilgrim's Pride 1620 Mayflower Static Build
Post by: dlancast on April 25, 2019, 02:15:14 AM
Starboard side of hull is planked and faired, Port side working. Dennis
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Post by: Mark T on April 25, 2019, 06:46:24 AM
Thatís looking really nice Dennis youíre doing a great job on that planking
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Post by: dlancast on April 25, 2019, 04:13:16 PM
Tks, its very tedious, but rewarding as well.  In reality, I am creating a solid substrate to lay the second thin planking over.  Should have started with a solid hull and I believe that this kit company did solid hulls and changed to plank on bulkhead.  This method gives me the feeling of building a real wood ship, in a very small way. All the concepts of spiling, steelers, etc. are applied with this model.  Keeps my old hands busy.  Cheers, Dennis
Title: Re: Pilgrim's Pride 1620 Mayflower Static Build
Post by: dlancast on April 30, 2019, 04:16:39 AM
Hands of a model maker.  Port side planking in progress.  Dennis
Title: Re: Pilgrim's Pride 1620 Mayflower Static Build
Post by: dlancast on May 03, 2019, 04:55:11 AM
Now that the bottom hull planking is in, the main deck is being installed.  1/32"x1/8" planks are glued down over the subdeck.  Simulated caulking is done with lead and tree nails are drilled out at appropriate framing locations.  When deck is down, it will be stained with a light stain.  Dennis
Title: Re: Pilgrim's Pride 1620 Mayflower Static Build
Post by: dlancast on May 13, 2019, 03:10:19 AM
All but one deck are planked and stained, bulkheads planked, doors, hinges and rings installed. Stbd side is planked on inside, stained and mounted.  Port side is in process planking.  She is starting to look like a ship now.  Loads of fun.  Dennis
Title: Re: Pilgrim's Pride 1620 Mayflower Static Build
Post by: dlancast on May 13, 2019, 03:10:45 AM
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Post by: dlancast on May 14, 2019, 03:29:24 AM
Window glazing on this model is a bit tedious.  A small square of clear poly is laid down on top of the window plan. Then, thin strips (.010) adhesive tape is laid over the lead frame lines, two directions, then framed with a wider adhesive tape.  The window is cut out and glued to the "inside" of the bulkheads to finish.  Dennis
Title: Re: Pilgrim's Pride 1620 Mayflower Static Build
Post by: dlancast on May 14, 2019, 03:30:00 AM
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Post by: dlancast on May 18, 2019, 04:45:13 AM
Forecastle waterways, bulwarks and stanchions installed and stained.  Maindeck in progress same.  Dennis
Title: Re: Pilgrim's Pride 1620 Mayflower Static Build
Post by: dlancast on May 18, 2019, 04:45:45 AM
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Post by: dlancast on May 18, 2019, 04:51:09 AM
Stern windows glazed and installed.  Dennis
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Post by: Mark T on May 18, 2019, 09:29:30 AM
Thats looking really nice and there's some pretty tricky woodwork going on too  :-))
Title: Re: Pilgrim's Pride 1620 Mayflower Static Build
Post by: dlancast on May 20, 2019, 05:51:05 PM
Bluwark stanchions are installed and to be stained.  Ready for second layer of upper hull planking.  Dennis
Title: Re: Pilgrim's Pride 1620 Mayflower Static Build
Post by: dlancast on May 29, 2019, 02:40:49 AM
Second layer of hull planking from the water line up.  Drilled out hundreds of tiny holes to simulate tree nails on planks.  Stained all topside a light oak.  Varnished with satin poly, one coat to seal.  Installed Wales and painted black.  Painted waterline and below, white (they used Tallow, which was a yellow/white.  I like the contrast of white/white flat.  Next will come various moldings on hull above cannon ports. Color will be brought into those moldings with red, green, white and black.  She is coming along well.  Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on May 29, 2019, 02:41:16 AM
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Post by: warspite on May 29, 2019, 10:51:52 AM
absolute beauty O0 
Title: Re: Pilgrim's Pride 1620 Mayflower Static Build
Post by: dlancast on May 29, 2019, 04:27:13 PM
thank you sir,  your HMS Victory Tug, is that a paper model?  I have a battleship model that is paper, I just started before this model I'm working on. That paper model looks very daunting, what have been your experiences? Can you give any advice?  Tks, Dennis
Title: Re: Pilgrim's Pride 1620 Mayflower Static Build
Post by: warspite on May 29, 2019, 05:54:00 PM
EEERRR, sorry  - you missed the comma  {-) , its HMS Victory and a vacuum hull of a tug, Victory is partially built using all the parts of the Airfix Kit but until I get sufficient mojo to carry on she is currently in dry dock - no internal decks fitted but the main gun deck is set with crew and guns ready to go in.
Title: Re: Pilgrim's Pride 1620 Mayflower Static Build
Post by: dlancast on May 31, 2019, 04:06:19 AM
Color is coming on with various hull moldings, rather striking.. though I trust the color accuracy, probably was not that bright.  I will be toning it down some with a overcoat of satin varnish to seal.  Dennis
Title: Re: Pilgrim's Pride 1620 Mayflower Static Build
Post by: dlancast on June 09, 2019, 05:56:28 AM
The Beakhead has been completed and installed.  Moving on to quarter deck area.  Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on June 09, 2019, 05:56:54 AM
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Post by: tigertiger on June 09, 2019, 07:46:44 AM
Looking great. As for colors, the white could have been that white, but the red possible not. After a year or two at sea (not uncommon journey lengths), I wonder how bad the paintwork would have been.
Title: Re: Pilgrim's Pride 1620 Mayflower Static Build
Post by: dlancast on June 09, 2019, 04:07:20 PM
Great question and one that I have asked.  The kit manuf. states that the colors may appear too bright and that I need to tone them down with washes, etc.  My intent was to seal with a statin varnish overbrush, which seems to tone things down a bit. But, will also lock in that intial brightness.  A thin "grey" wash may be the trick.  Yes, red is notorious for fading quickly in the elements and yes, the white on the hull is waaay too bright for the tallow that was used... would be more like a yellow and only clean at the waterline while underway due to friction rub..... still thinking on this matter and I always welcome the good inputs from you dear folks.  Dennis
Title: Re: Pilgrim's Pride 1620 Mayflower Static Build
Post by: dlancast on June 13, 2019, 10:30:52 PM
Rudder installed.  Pintles and Gudgeons made from copper tape, wire for pin shaft. Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on June 13, 2019, 10:31:23 PM
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