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Mess Deck: General Section => Tugs and Towing => Topic started by: Taranis on May 26, 2019, 02:08:05 PM

Title: Canadian style logging tug scratch build
Post by: Taranis on May 26, 2019, 02:08:05 PM
I photographed this at Mayhem meet. Creation of Paul "mrzippy"
I rather like the scale and creativity so here are some pictures of a work in progress  :-))


(https://photos.smugmug.com/Boat-bits/i-fRmXQ3L/0/c06f48bc/X3/8FA1BA5C-4B62-4C30-9567-985CADF6C566-X3.jpg)


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Title: Re: Canadian style logging tug scratch build
Post by: Tug Fanatic on May 26, 2019, 04:04:43 PM
Love this but what size is it?
I think the figure at the controls might need to be larger unless your lens has distorted perspective.
Title: Re: Canadian style logging tug scratch build
Post by: 16-21 on May 26, 2019, 04:07:41 PM
Maybe this could be used as a basis?

https://www.sarikhobbies.com/product/canadian-logpusher/ (https://www.sarikhobbies.com/product/canadian-logpusher/)
Title: Re: Canadian style logging tug scratch build
Post by: Taranis on May 26, 2019, 04:10:59 PM
Paul would have to answer that but I'd say it reflects this type of vessel after 1 minute 35 https://youtu.be/kG-dU4ueeCw?t=102 (https://youtu.be/kG-dU4ueeCw)
Title: Re: Canadian style logging tug scratch build
Post by: Taranis on May 26, 2019, 04:11:40 PM
Maybe this could be used as a basis?

https://www.sarikhobbies.com/product/canadian-logpusher/ (https://www.sarikhobbies.com/product/canadian-logpusher/)
I'd agree with that theme  :-))
Title: Re: Canadian style logging tug scratch build
Post by: Taranis on May 26, 2019, 04:26:49 PM
I guess she's a BOOM boat  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-SQQdYcsbQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-SQQdYcsbQ)
Title: Re: Canadian style logging tug scratch build
Post by: Taranis on May 26, 2019, 04:49:35 PM
So MY choice of thread title and forum section are potentially incorrect. Reported to admin  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Canadian style logging tug scratch build
Post by: Tug Fanatic on May 26, 2019, 05:57:29 PM

These boats are known as sidewinders - Michael Portillo had a ride on one in a recent Canadian Railway Journey.


There are lots of pictures & videos on the web.


 https://cmelimited.com/portfolio/sidewinders/ (https://cmelimited.com/portfolio/sidewinders/)


https://www.google.com/search?q=logging+sidewinder&hl=en&tbm=vid&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjI6Pz31LniAhVhs3EKHW9DClgQ_AUIDCgD&biw=1486&bih=806&dpr=1.25 (https://www.google.com/search?q=logging+sidewinder&hl=en&tbm=vid&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjI6Pz31LniAhVhs3EKHW9DClgQ_AUIDCgD&biw=1486&bih=806&dpr=1.25)




For reference the boats that push the log rafts around are known as Dozers.


https://www.harlowmarine.com/shop/sold-listings/sold-boom-boats-equipment/bv188/?wpp_export=print


Dozers normally have traditional drive but Sidewinders have what looks like an outboard leg drive. Traditional drive & a Ministeve type bow thruster works well.



I am trying to work out what the rubbing strips are made out of. On the real boats they are heavy angle iron. These things get some of the hardest use possible & are built accordingly.
Title: Re: Canadian style logging tug scratch build
Post by: mrzippy on May 26, 2019, 09:54:13 PM
Wow Andy that phone of yours certainly takes great photo's, unfortunately highlighting my rubbish silver soldering -
but we are looking at a work in progress with lots of filing, sanding and filling to do,
before we think about reaching for the paint.

The model is a Canadian Log Dozer or Boom Boat, built to Action Man/Dragon figure 1/6 scale -
around 36 inches length, 15 inch beam, deck stands 12 inches above the keel -
it's a really chunky model and will weigh?? I dread to think - the real boats decks are awash when in use,
therefore a ton of church roof required !

The angled rubbing strips on the model are fibreglass mouldings - I glued a 1/2" triangular balsa single master rail
around one half of the hull, filled and painted it, covered it in brown gloss parcel tape and took moulds off it in 3 sections
front, centre and back.
These were used to cast 8 fibreglass rubbing strips padded out with sections of balsa triangle to help fill out the moulds
(the striped sections in the photos) this was a real pain, taking an age to produce.

I would have preferred to use a Sidewinder outboard style drive leg, but after enquiring on various Forums -
Graupner drives lacked reliability and size, and I didn't relish the idea of shelling out 500 on a Bauer unit,
therefore settled for traditional dive and a Ministeve thruster in the style of the boat in the attached photo.

I intend fitting a Forge Electronics sound unit, home made smoke generator and make the driver operational
turning the steering wheel etc.
regards Paul



Title: Re: Canadian style logging tug scratch build
Post by: Mark T on May 26, 2019, 10:09:08 PM
Wow what a great build - nice one mrzippy  :-))
Title: Re: Canadian style logging tug scratch build
Post by: Taranis on May 26, 2019, 10:24:25 PM
Awesome  :-))  please keep your thread updated. You can email photos to me if necessary.
Never mind the soldering! I spend most of my time with a bunch of files  {-)
Title: Re: Canadian style logging tug scratch build
Post by: 16-21 on May 26, 2019, 10:45:26 PM
Very nice model.

Andy
You can find a small kit on eBay for 40 ish
Perhaps if you fancy a model yourself
you could enlarge plans to suit the desired sale and scratch build?
Title: Re: Canadian style logging tug scratch build
Post by: Taranis on May 26, 2019, 10:50:39 PM
Thanks
I'd be quite happy to build purely from photos and be creative like Paul. Most of my Portgarth I ignored the plans and templates that are grossly inaccurate.
However I have far too much to build already for a couple of years at least. Happy to watch this one progress  :-)
Title: Re: Canadian style logging tug scratch build
Post by: 16-21 on June 12, 2019, 09:12:28 AM
Another tug


https://barracudarcboats.mysimplestore.com/products/12-bronco-log-tug-39 (https://barracudarcboats.mysimplestore.com/products/12-bronco-log-tug-39)
Title: Re: Canadian style logging tug scratch build
Post by: rhavrane on June 13, 2019, 07:35:11 PM
Bonjour
Another from China built by my friend Jacques : [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvxkkn6HH9M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvxkkn6HH9M)[/size]