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Title: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2019, 10:20:05 am
HI all im  a newbie with a new pc an a new image hosting site an im tryin to find out how to work all this as im not very good on computers.
An now I wil try an post some pics of my build im scratchbuilding  HMS TIGER C20 in 1/72 semi scale converted to a helicopter carrier an have only been building a few months so not a lot to see.IM at the stage so far havin built the hull with hull frames an qaudron fitted an now ready to start covering the hull a link maybe the only way to see the pics until I can find out how to post proper pics
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2019, 10:26:03 am

https://ibb.co/HD5GFT8
A pic of the real ship as a test pic to see if it will show on site please click on link
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2019, 10:43:00 am

NOW starting the build by drawn from plans onto the marine plywood an cutting out the keel
https://ibb.co/Bf9nNCs   hopefully link will show as I have not got much confidence in my pc skill 's at the moment but im trying an I will have to load one link at a time as live in a low megabyt  eara
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2019, 10:54:53 am

An keel cutout  got to be carefull though as its very fragile to move around anyway more links soon as I got have a rest an then go outside into my garage as that's where the ship is bein built an not indoors due to its size  an build a bit more as I want to start covering her today
https://ibb.co/jJC49NY
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Capt Podge on June 07, 2019, 11:17:15 am
Looking good Chris, and as you say, a bit fragile at the moment but it will stiffen up once you get the frames mounted.
Looking forward to seeing more as you progress.  :-))


Regards
Ray.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on June 07, 2019, 11:22:40 am
https://ibb.co/HD5GFT8 (https://ibb.co/HD5GFT8)
A pic of the real ship as a test pic to see if it will show on site please click on link
chris

Pic showed up, its snakey Blakey though  {-) no matter nearly twins
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2019, 05:58:45 pm

Hi guys a few more links for pic's
Here im now cutting out the main hull joint as this ship will have to come in half for transport in car to pond
https://ibb.co/g9Q0Gyg
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2019, 06:04:32 pm


 the H/J are cut out an nxt job is drilling them out to fit brass slevses  an to fit the main bolts that will hold the ship togeather
https://ibb.co/g9Q0Gyg
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2019, 06:15:25 pm

An done on the H/J its now ready to fit into the keel section
https://ibb.co/0JCRHvM
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2019, 06:22:01 pm

Bolts 'washers'a butterfly nuts all fitted
https://ibb.co/XZn6n9V

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2019, 06:29:26 pm

Got a bit ahead of my self there as I should have shown a pic  of the plasticard fitted in between the H/J to serve as a spacer so when the hull is is covered an lifted off baseboard an bolts removed the plasticard can be removed to make a space to fit in  for the hacksaw blade to cut hull
https://ibb.co/8m8hPHT


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2019, 06:31:30 pm

AN now ready to fit in place to the keel
https://ibb.co/Pj6GBZ8
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2019, 06:36:36 pm

Now fittin in hull frames
https://ibb.co/MBhGsnd
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2019, 06:39:35 pm

More hull frames cut for the front of the vessel
https://ibb.co/5F1MTcQ
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2019, 06:43:18 pm

AN fitted to keel
https://ibb.co/ysL8mNy
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 07, 2019, 06:46:47 pm
Lovely job. You can post your images rather than just links  :-))
Just use the insert image tab and post the image address


(https://i.ibb.co/2KXj0Ft/IMG-4540.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2019, 06:50:50 pm

Here nr as far as I have gotten on the build an all h frames are in an also the quadrons are fitted to give the hull strength
https://ibb.co/g664qD8 (https://ibb.co/g664qD8)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 07, 2019, 06:53:53 pm
Here nr as far as I have gotten on the build an all h frames are in an also the quadrons are fitted to give the hull strength
https://ibb.co/g664qD8 (https://ibb.co/g664qD8)
(https://i.ibb.co/TrrWjHG/IMG-4556.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2019, 06:54:51 pm
AN fitted to keel
https://ibb.co/ysL8mNy (https://ibb.co/ysL8mNy)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2019, 07:02:02 pm

HI Andy if you can bring them all up like that I would be very pleased as im new to pc 's an not very good on them an what you said about image tabs an such I have not got a clue as on imgbb there are no intruckions to tell you what to do an ive only got this far by sheer luck sorry about that I have just two more pics to post an that's will be as far as I have got on the build but many thanks for your help on pics but I can only put the links im afraid
chris

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 07, 2019, 07:04:10 pm
If I do it now they'll all end up out of order. Happy to do from now onwards  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2019, 07:06:26 pm

a shot from the stern
https://ibb.co/xqQWpND (https://ibb.co/xqQWpND)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2019, 07:10:33 pm
If I do it now they'll all end up out of order. Happy to do from now onwards  :-))

OH CHEERS Andy as its nice to see the pics isn't it I just wish I couild do it myself instead of bothering you sorry about that
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 07, 2019, 07:14:02 pm
a shot from the stern
https://ibb.co/xqQWpND (https://ibb.co/xqQWpND)


(https://i.ibb.co/zVwpyzr/IMG-4557.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2019, 07:20:32 pm

AN LAST ONE for today I have now started to cover her in what I call a ply rap round this is as far as I have got on the build
https://ibb.co/ThqhP46 (https://ibb.co/ThqhP46)
more links or pics when I get that far
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 07, 2019, 07:21:51 pm
AN LAST ONE for today I have now started to cover her in what I call a ply rap round this is as far as I have got on the build
https://ibb.co/ThqhP46 (https://ibb.co/ThqhP46)
more links or pics when I get that far
chris


(https://i.ibb.co/C0s0Vbg/IMG-4559.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2019, 07:27:47 pm
Many thanks Andy as I treid to do as you said on imgbb an it all went haywire an I could not get back on the imgbb site bloomin windows 10 I found windows vista far easyier  but thank you for bringing the pics up im very pleased only wish I could do it but at least the pics getting on the site as I have great plans for quite a few workin features on tiger  an hope all the guys will enjoy it all best chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on June 07, 2019, 09:34:38 pm

That's just how I built the original Tiger, Hermes and Phoebe, Victorious done same way but plastic card instead of the sheet ply.
My Tiger has traversing 6" that's squirts water, bridge lights, nav lights, mast light, gyro controlled stabilisers, flood lights, rotating radar and white/red battle lights and a really loud foghorn {-)


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 08, 2019, 10:39:17 am

HI Bob yes that's what im planning to do the same on my tiger as you did an  I did on my  uss Nimitz in  1/144 an hms Edinburgh in 1/64  hms York in 1/64  an hms Norfolk in 1/72 scale  some don't like to see all whistles an bell's on a model but hey that's what the real ship has :-)) . So the models are more realistic an have you got anymore pics to show of your tiger close up to see the detail ? as I would like to see to help me in my build as I had a close friend who dieded of cancer an he said to me you never can have enough pics for info to build an I found he was right
all best chris   ps are all those builds that you have done on this site ?
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on June 08, 2019, 11:11:20 am

only builds on here in detail are CVA-01 Queen Elizabeth, Victorious and Tiger


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: madrob on June 08, 2019, 02:08:47 pm
cant wait to see it come on Chris, if its anywhere near as good as the rest of your builds it will be outstanding
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 08, 2019, 05:17:55 pm
cant wait to see it come on Chris, if its anywhere near as good as the rest of your builds it will be outstanding

HI Rob  nice to see you on here an many thanks for the compliments very nice of you  an yes I will try an make tiger outstanding as Nimitz was an all the others builds an have you made up your mind what build you want to do yet ?
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on June 09, 2019, 11:50:27 am
I love seeing plank/sheet on frame models being built, there is something very sculptural about them.  I like the technique for giving you room for the saw blade to cut the hull  :-)) :-)) It inspires me to get on with my models  :}
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 09, 2019, 12:34:03 pm
I love seeing plank/sheet on frame models being built, there is something very sculptural about them.  I like the technique for giving you room for the saw blade to cut the hull  :-)) :-)) It inspires me to get on with my models  :}

HI  glad you like the build  an yes building the scratchbuilt hull is sort of like sculpter I suppose when you think about it an yes the idea for savin a space betwteen the hull / joint has worked very well for me over the yrs  always been a success an with the ship in two halvles ite easy to transport to the model show or pond  have you any builds ? as be nice to see them ?
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 12, 2019, 04:59:36 pm

HI Guys well ive started to cover the hull an by gum really awkward work but im getting there
https://ibb.co/xhHJ0Rf
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 12, 2019, 05:00:58 pm
HI Guys well ive started to cover the hull an by gum really awkward work but im getting there
https://ibb.co/xhHJ0Rf (https://ibb.co/xhHJ0Rf)


(https://i.ibb.co/SNrR89d/IMG-4560.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 12, 2019, 05:03:22 pm
https://ibb.co/H2zfmmT
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 12, 2019, 05:07:34 pm
https://ibb.co/KKnc6Cq
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 12, 2019, 05:10:56 pm

hit the link as here im covering the hull joint an got to be carefull I don't get glue in the H/J or I wont be able to part them
https://ibb.co/58PG5Ys
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 12, 2019, 06:04:46 pm
https://ibb.co/H2zfmmT (https://ibb.co/H2zfmmT)


(https://i.ibb.co/KGqpCCx/IMG-4562.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 12, 2019, 06:05:16 pm
https://ibb.co/KKnc6Cq (https://ibb.co/KKnc6Cq)


(https://i.ibb.co/LNKDS4t/IMG-4564.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 12, 2019, 06:05:43 pm
hit the link as here im covering the hull joint an got to be carefull I don't get glue in the H/J or I wont be able to part them
https://ibb.co/58PG5Ys (https://ibb.co/58PG5Ys)


(https://i.ibb.co/R0qYChQ/IMG-4566.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on June 14, 2019, 10:41:47 am
Hm, that could be a ghastly problem to solve  {:-{
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 14, 2019, 05:46:49 pm
Hm, that could be a ghastly problem to solve  {:-{

YES it could but got to look on the positive side I will know in a wk or so as im nearly fininshed covering the hull so fingers crossed
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: RST on June 14, 2019, 09:15:31 pm
I protect things I don't want to stick with cheap brown parcel tape and peel it off after. Tried and tested, nowt sticks to it. Works for building boards also.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 17, 2019, 07:39:05 pm
I protect things I don't want to stick with cheap brown parcel tape and peel it off after. Tried and tested, nowt sticks to it. Works for building boards also.

Hi thanks for the tip
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 17, 2019, 07:47:56 pm

Hi all well I fianally managed to cover all the hull an now leavein it for 24hhrs for glue to go off then tomorrow I will unscrew the hull an gently lift it off the
build board an then remove the hull joint bolts an the plasticard spacer an sweat buckets cutting the hull any way some pics
https://ibb.co/vB4HjTj
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 17, 2019, 07:51:05 pm
https://ibb.co/q1pS9rQ
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 17, 2019, 07:51:30 pm
Hi all well I fianally managed to cover all the hull an now leavein it for 24hhrs for glue to go off then tomorrow I will unscrew the hull an gently lift it off the
build board an then remove the hull joint bolts an the plasticard spacer an sweat buckets cutting the hull any way some pics
https://ibb.co/vB4HjTj (https://ibb.co/vB4HjTj)


(https://i.ibb.co/cvh1rZr/IMG-4567.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 17, 2019, 07:52:23 pm
https://ibb.co/q1pS9rQ (https://ibb.co/q1pS9rQ)


(https://i.ibb.co/MN7vpC0/IMG-4568.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 17, 2019, 07:54:25 pm
https://ibb.co/tQGmnP2
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 17, 2019, 07:55:14 pm
https://ibb.co/tQGmnP2 (https://ibb.co/tQGmnP2)


(https://i.ibb.co/2W9nRYM/IMG-4569.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 17, 2019, 07:56:50 pm
https://ibb.co/HB6XPCJ last section on the bow
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 17, 2019, 07:57:40 pm
https://ibb.co/HB6XPCJ (https://ibb.co/HB6XPCJ) last section on the bow


(https://i.ibb.co/CmgW96r/IMG-4572.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 17, 2019, 07:59:14 pm

https://ibb.co/Xb35VVB cheers andy  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 17, 2019, 07:59:59 pm
https://ibb.co/Xb35VVB (https://ibb.co/Xb35VVB) cheers andy  :-))
chris


(https://i.ibb.co/R9B677n/IMG-4573.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 17, 2019, 08:01:58 pm

Last bit fitted to the stern
https://ibb.co/R3dHy5s
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 17, 2019, 08:03:17 pm
Last bit fitted to the stern
https://ibb.co/R3dHy5s (https://ibb.co/R3dHy5s)


(https://i.ibb.co/sKz3HBN/IMG-4574.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 17, 2019, 08:07:32 pm

NOW hull is completely covered now for the tedious part of F/G an sandin uuuuurrhh
https://ibb.co/gmBmRDH all done until the nxt stage tomorrow to see if it will come off build board ok an cutting the hull boy will I be sweatin
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 17, 2019, 08:08:48 pm
NOW hull is completely covered now for the tedious part of F/G an sandin uuuuurrhh
https://ibb.co/gmBmRDH (https://ibb.co/gmBmRDH) all done until the nxt stage tomorrow to see if it will come off build board ok an cutting the hull boy will I be sweatin
chris
Looking good  :-))
(https://i.ibb.co/7j6j1G8/IMG-4576.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 17, 2019, 08:14:17 pm

Many thanks Andy just got to hope tomorrow goes well boy is that gonna be a long 24hrs  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on June 17, 2019, 08:26:42 pm
Deep breaths Chris. I am sure it will be alright.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 18, 2019, 06:44:46 pm
Deep breaths Chris. I am sure it will be alright.

HI well its looks like you were right deep breaths an held  ;) now I can breath again well the hull came off the build board ok with SWMBO help
https://ibb.co/2gDv2Gm
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 18, 2019, 06:46:03 pm
HI well its looks like you were right deep breaths an held  ;) now I can breath again well the hull came off the build board ok with SWMBO help
https://ibb.co/2gDv2Gm (https://ibb.co/2gDv2Gm)


(https://i.ibb.co/KFM2ZTR/P1020158.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 18, 2019, 06:50:35 pm
https://ibb.co/rGXqWLg
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 18, 2019, 06:51:31 pm
https://ibb.co/rGXqWLg (https://ibb.co/rGXqWLg)


(https://i.ibb.co/SXZHL12/P1020159.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 18, 2019, 06:56:16 pm

Hull joint a nice clean cut I sweated buckets  doin this fearin the worst cheers andy youre a star much appreaciaited
https://ibb.co/LZDscRd


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 18, 2019, 07:00:56 pm
Hull joint a nice clean cut I sweated buckets  doin this fearin the worst cheers andy youre a star much appreaciaited
https://ibb.co/LZDscRd (https://ibb.co/LZDscRd)


(https://i.ibb.co/YL4V1QB/P1020160.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 18, 2019, 07:01:32 pm
Hhttps://ibb.co/zZyCdr2/J on strb side when bolted togeather an it a nice tight fit but there is a lot of work to do on the hull like F/G an sandin down with sandin sealer
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 18, 2019, 07:04:09 pm

lookin down into H/J an again nice tight fit
https://ibb.co/g671bGj
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 18, 2019, 07:07:02 pm
Hhttps://ibb.co/zZyCdr2/J on strb side when bolted togeather an it a nice tight fit but there is a lot of work to do on the hull like F/G an sandin down with sandin sealer


(https://i.ibb.co/SBhHSPm/P1020162.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 18, 2019, 07:07:27 pm
lookin down into H/J an again nice tight fit
https://ibb.co/g671bGj (https://ibb.co/g671bGj)


(https://i.ibb.co/fQSRVb1/P1020163.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 18, 2019, 07:07:41 pm
ahttps://ibb.co/F0JNYgBn on the hull bottom nice joint im very pleased as now the hull is cut I can build the ship when I please an I can also get the car back in the garage
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Capt Podge on June 18, 2019, 07:08:11 pm
That's a really impressive cut you've made, straight and flat - congratulations :-))


I'll be looking in as you progress.  :-) .


Regards
Ray.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 18, 2019, 07:11:58 pm

an last shot here the hull joined up an ready for the next stage that's the lot for today andy thanks
https://ibb.co/j3Sd0pP


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 18, 2019, 07:14:25 pm
an last shot here the hull joined up an ready for the next stage that's the lot for today andy thanks
https://ibb.co/j3Sd0pP (https://ibb.co/j3Sd0pP)


(https://i.ibb.co/tY9SjdT/P1020167.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 18, 2019, 07:25:08 pm
That's a really impressive cut you've made, straight and flat - congratulations :-))


I'll be looking in as you progress.  :-) .


Regards

Ray.


Many thanks ray im bloomin glad I have got over that hull build been a worry in case it dint turn out ok now I can sleep at nights  :-))
chris  an thanks for your intrest
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 18, 2019, 07:29:23 pm
That last shot is most impressive  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 18, 2019, 08:11:29 pm
That last shot is most impressive  :-))

Cheers Andy it don't look to bad does it im pretty pleased as this will be the last scratchbuilt build I will do as im now an oap an yrs are running out I judge this build will keep me busy for the nxt 5 yrs then on borrowed time  :o but im goin to enjoy building this model as it looks a nice ship as ive never built a half battle cruiser an helo carrier before so something different
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: littoralcombat on June 25, 2019, 11:25:51 am
Hi Chris, just following on from your question regarding the direction of rotation for HMS Tiger Props. Unfortunately, I have no idea which way they turned. My gut feeling would be Outboard turning, but I have no definite evidence to back up my suspicion.
Nige
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on June 25, 2019, 02:02:21 pm

Following on from all the which way do the props turn, my Tiger has all four turning inboard, and she sails and handles extremely well, so if it aint broke don't fix  :}


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 25, 2019, 06:12:30 pm
Hi Chris, just following on from your question regarding the direction of rotation for HMS Tiger Props. Unfortunately, I have no idea which way they turned. My gut feeling would be Outboard turning, but I have no definite evidence to back up my suspicion.
Nige

HI Nige thanks for your intrest an answer on tiger props rotation  :-)) an I just asked in case you knew but no worryies as im still buildin the hull an still will for at least a few more months an by then I might find some more info on her
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 25, 2019, 06:25:28 pm
Following on from all the which way do the props turn, my Tiger has all four turning inboard, and she sails and handles extremely well, so if it aint broke don't fix  :}


Bob

HI Bob an cheers for your intrest an answer regards props rotation on your tiger as you say if not broke don't fix an very true too but im a fair way off thinkin about the props as still building hull but I like to ask people just in case they might know.But regards my hms Norfolk  type 23 THE PICS that Nige put on the other thread  clearly shows if zoomed in on the props an just by lookin at the blades angle I can see that the type 23 props do go outwards so that's different an as my props on my model do go outwards   im right so no need to fix as you say very good advise cheers  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: gingyer on June 25, 2019, 07:02:03 pm
Chris
If it helps any we were discussing prop rotation on Sunday....
As people say tugs go one way for manoeuvrability and warships the other for speed.


We looked at numerous types of warships and dry dock pictures and found there was
NO set rotation of the props!
We even found sister ships with different prop rotation....


Unless you find a picture of the props of the tiger then go with whatever suits!
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 25, 2019, 07:22:29 pm
Chris
If it helps any we were discussing prop rotation on Sunday....
As people say tugs go one way for manoeuvrability and warships the other for speed.


We looked at numerous types of warships and dry dock pictures and found there was
NO set rotation of the props!
We even found sister ships with different prop rotation....


Unless you find a picture of the props of the tiger then go with whatever suits!

HI Ginger cheers for your answer an exscuse me for askin but are you the Ginger that's friends with BrianC ?
CHRIS
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: gingyer on June 25, 2019, 07:53:42 pm
Yip  :-))


And it was myself and brianC looking at the prop
Stuff on Sunday  %)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 25, 2019, 08:38:14 pm
Yip  :-))


And it was myself and brianC looking at the prop
Stuff on Sunday  %)

OH ok Ginger nice to know you  guys still into model ships as I hav'nt heard much of your warships wkends now dont they happen now ? an have you still got that big white SS CANBBERA
any way my best regards to you an could you please give my best to BrianC  please tell him I remember the nice chat we had at wicksteed all those yrs ago as I hav'nt forgotten as I really enjoyed talkin about the models to him just makes me wonder where all the time has gone
chris

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: gingyer on June 25, 2019, 08:52:27 pm
hi Chris,
we still build models and Brian pops on here from time to time...


the warship weekend has been put on pause with refurbishment to the park etc ongoing but we hope to solve that
relatively soon.


the canberra was sold on to a couple of guys who done it up, I was jumping  about the country so couldn't get it done  ok2
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 25, 2019, 09:09:46 pm
hi Chris,
we still build models and Brian pops on here from time to time...


the warship weekend has been put on pause with refurbishment to the park etc ongoing but we hope to solve that
relatively soon.


the canberra was sold on to a couple of guys who done it up, I was jumping  about the country so couldn't get it done  ok2

OK Ginger hope you follow my tiger build but it will be a while before any more posts as ive got to finish off building my hull an such as f/g an sanding an that's gonna take a few months that's the part I hate but got to be done so i'll get stuck in an have you got a build goin on here ?
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 26, 2019, 12:05:08 pm

A TEST PIC OF MY HMS NORFOLK in 1/72 scale all a sea
https://ibb.co/BgyfbMQ
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 26, 2019, 12:11:11 pm
A TEST PIC OF MY HMS NORFOLK in 1/72 scale all a sea
https://ibb.co/BgyfbMQ (https://ibb.co/BgyfbMQ)
chris


(https://i.ibb.co/2jvFx4C/P1020169.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 26, 2019, 12:17:54 pm

Cheers Andy for bringin up pic  this Norfolk pic came as as I was tryin to up load pics to the forum but again I just got the link  I don't know maybe its my flamein pc ? or me ?
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on June 26, 2019, 12:28:19 pm
Not your PC mate. I've sent you a message  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 19, 2019, 06:36:36 pm

HI all well ive been busy on the build for the last month or so tryin to build that weid shaped stern on tiger refit an its been a real devil to build as my plans are 3mm out so ive had to keep splittin the difernce on measurements. But I think I beaten it an built it still a bit on the rough side until its F/G an filler applieded an then sanded down so still a lot more to do on her before I can say hull built but im getting there
AN in the 1st pic a plan shot of what ive been tryin to build over the last month
https://ibb.co/ssbNBKS
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on July 19, 2019, 06:44:23 pm
HI all well ive been busy on the build for the last month or so tryin to build that weid shaped stern on tiger refit an its been a real devil to build as my plans are 3mm out so ive had to keep splittin the difernce on measurements. But I think I beaten it an built it still a bit on the rough side until its F/G an filler applieded an then sanded down so still a lot more to do on her before I can say hull built but im getting there
AN in the 1st pic a plan shot of what ive been tryin to build over the last month
https://ibb.co/ssbNBKS (https://ibb.co/ssbNBKS)


(https://i.ibb.co/nQ6YW72/IMG-4599.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 19, 2019, 06:47:10 pm

A SHOT of the raised back which will be the hangar an flight deck hull frames these have been added on to the normal hull frames

https://ibb.co/nmStjL6 (https://ibb.co/nmStjL6)   an hi Andy cheers for bein on the ball to bring up pics
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 19, 2019, 06:56:45 pm

Here a shot of the rear stern that's been causein me all that trouble tryin to get it to look right
https://ibb.co/JvHhGzY
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 19, 2019, 07:02:58 pm

A side view shot of it an im reasonbley pleased with how its turning out as I struggled with this
https://ibb.co/V2LvGxR
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 19, 2019, 07:08:51 pm

IN this pic all the rear hull frames will have to be cut out again to allow for the appertures cutouts to be cut into the hull an its a very tight space to fi
t in the rudder
https://ibb.co/z7YbVv3
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 19, 2019, 07:12:49 pm


An in the last linkpic a shot of all the rear hull frames an all these will have to be cut out after F/G  :-)) 
https://ibb.co/5Yc3LqQ
CHRIS
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 23, 2019, 08:00:45 pm

HI ALL well on the build im now at the stage of givin her a light sandin  out side to remove all the rough edges on the hull an ive also fitted the bow formers to give it the nice sweepin curve up to the bow
https://ibb.co/J27GRJ4

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 23, 2019, 08:03:05 pm

STILL sandin the hull an its comin to look something like it should :-))
https://ibb.co/ctcn8Bq
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 23, 2019, 08:04:21 pm

HULL shot strb side
https://ibb.co/y52L1qh
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 23, 2019, 08:07:36 pm

An port side an the weird shape of this ship can now be seen better
https://ibb.co/P9Fxbf8
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 23, 2019, 08:09:15 pm

AN she's now beginning to look big
https://ibb.co/Vm1bncc
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Capt Podge on July 23, 2019, 08:09:54 pm
She's definitely taking shape now and looking like it's going to be a cracker - looking forward to your future updates.  :-)


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 23, 2019, 08:13:07 pm

https://ibb.co/YLNK5r6
more when I get that far
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 23, 2019, 08:25:53 pm
She's definitely taking shape now and looking like it's going to be a cracker - looking forward to your future updates.  :-)


Regards,
Ray.

HI Ray  yes she' on the way an hopefully will be a cracker but there's still a lot that can go wrong as I think im at that point of thinking how to precceed for the best but just got to think before I act an thanks for your intrest
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on July 24, 2019, 10:11:41 am
STILL sandin the hull an its comin to look something like it should :-))
https://ibb.co/ctcn8Bq (https://ibb.co/ctcn8Bq)
(https://i.ibb.co/vmxndF9/IMG-4613.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on July 24, 2019, 10:12:48 am
AN she's now beginning to look big
https://ibb.co/Vm1bncc (https://ibb.co/Vm1bncc)


(https://i.ibb.co/2N9RV11/P1020308.jpg)


(https://i.ibb.co/7Vh75Kg/P1020309.jpg)


(https://i.ibb.co/ZYGdwkC/IMG-4615.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 24, 2019, 10:22:04 am

Many thanks  andy  for bringin up pics wish I could do it but this bloomin windows 10 is so complicatiated for me
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on July 27, 2019, 09:39:33 pm
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/07/27/Tiger-class.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/07/27/IMG_1823.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/07/27/IMG_1821.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 28, 2019, 09:14:44 am

COR CHEERS Bob  super info picture many thanks :-)) :-)) :-)) im very impressed what a picture wow is it ok to print this picture off  so I can frame it an put it on show for people to see info about the model an the real ship when I put her on display ?.An I only hope I can do justice to this model as its provein very hard to get the hull curves right an some I don't think I can but will see when I F/G her . An im goin to have to go off scale a bit im afraid as Im thinkin of fittin in the hull a bow thruster at the front of the hull as this hull so big the wind catches her very easy  an on our pond when it get busy I will need it for station keepin or I will end up hitting other models an I don't want that.I had to do the same with my Nimitz carrier an it was a blessin to control her easysily  an Bob if poss could you find out which way that radar goes left to right back an forth or up an down  as I would like to get it right I know I wont need it for a fair while but if I see the units to make the radar move how it should do then I can buy the bits


Chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on July 28, 2019, 11:36:33 am
Chris
No prob printing it as it is an RN publicity picture, donít forget that it is Blake though
Consensus is that radar is fixed and looking at drawings can see no mech for anything. Defo does not rotate, no room


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 28, 2019, 12:44:14 pm
Chris
No prob printing it as it is an RN publicity picture, don’t forget that it is Blake though
Consensus is that radar is fixed and looking at drawings can see no mech for anything. Defo does not rotate, no room


Bob

GREAT stuff on the pic  thanks Bob as I will fit it in a nice gold or silver frame  in front of her when on display an I will point out that its blake but as you said they are practicaly twins so no worries on that. But got to build her first I have been today grinding out the hull frames right where the apertures will be a noisey an smelly job but that's been done  usein my Dremel. Now nxt step today is fit in a hard balsa mount  1/2 " thick for the rudder to be  drilled out an mounted on then one day nxt wk it will be F/G time aaaaaaawwwwwaa  NOT LOOKIN FORWARD TO THAT but got to be done.An Bob lookin at my plans an your hull picturs of your tiger  as I have been studyin  them  I see that you hav'nt got on YOUR hull as much armour plate  as my plans show did the R/N remove some at one time ? an regards the radar well I think I wil make it rock from the sides just to make the model more intrestin again cheers for info no doubt i'll be askin again as the model progesses so don't go away  ;) :-)) :-)) :-)) all best
chris
 
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: D108 on July 28, 2019, 01:43:38 pm
The 278 radar was a height finder is, it would be put on the bearing of the contact in question and then dish would rotate up and down to find the height .
So It did not rotate 360 constantly like a search radar . The same radar was also fitted to the RN county class .
Paul
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Netleyned on July 28, 2019, 01:54:59 pm
Fitted to the Battle Class Conversions and
The Cathedral Class AD Frigates.
I used to sleep in the 278 office on
Llandaff when we short of space.
Ned.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on July 28, 2019, 02:04:33 pm
Chris
My hull has the amount of side armour as per the plans so it might be the angle of the image


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 28, 2019, 04:51:16 pm
Chris
My hull has the amount of side armour as per the plans so it might be the angle of the image


Bob

YES you could be right Bob or my plan could be wrong ?
Fitted to the Battle Class Conversions and
The Cathedral Class AD Frigates.
I used to sleep in the 278 office on
Llandaff when we short of space.
Ned.
HI Ned so you strung your hammock up in there then ?
The 278 radar was a height finder is, it would be put on the bearing of the contact in question and then dish would rotate up and down to find the height .
So It did not rotate 360 constantly like a search radar . The same radar was also fitted to the RN county class .
Paul
AN HI Paul cheers for the info on the 278 radar so it rocked up an down well I think when the time comes I can make it do that on a piston drive an Paul have you any idea if it was a fast rocking motion or slow ?
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on July 28, 2019, 05:53:18 pm

Tiger crew say not rocking but adjustable for angle as required
As for armour here is a shot of the armour plate on my hull, hope you can see both green tapes showing length of it, fits in with both Jecobin and admiralty drawings


Bob
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/07/28/IMG_4869.jpg)


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 28, 2019, 06:18:06 pm

HI Bob well my plan must be wrong as it shows more armour plate at the stern end below a linkpic of my plan an yes I see where your armour plate is on your hull thanks well I think I might leave it off an just fit it where yours is
https://ibb.co/ssbNBKS
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 28, 2019, 08:41:13 pm

An three more piclinks of the armour belt Bob it seems to go nearly the whole ship length an these are all follow after each  other along the hull  up till the midship
https://ibb.co/mb6H26m


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 28, 2019, 08:44:19 pm
https://ibb.co/RC6Z3gq
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 28, 2019, 08:49:20 pm

AN MIDSHIPS
https://ibb.co/d0xPtXV
so can you see now Bob on my plan  how much more armour belt there is then on your hull  if im lookin at this right  but like I say my plan may be wrong
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 28, 2019, 08:59:33 pm

HI again Bob would you mind postin a pic of the tiger badge I see in a frame below your hull please
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on July 28, 2019, 09:02:43 pm
Can do later tonight also the real ship showing the armour
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 28, 2019, 09:17:40 pm
Can do later tonight also the real ship showing the armour

OK Bob youre a star cheers i'll have look in the morning  as soon be time to hit the sack as my missus went up at 8pm as we are up every morn at 4-30 to take her to work
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on July 28, 2019, 10:36:59 pm

Chris looking at the ship and remembering from close up at water level, and looking at my plans I have never seen that rectangular piece before, mine looks shorter at the green tap forward marked edge of main armour belt, it then reduces in height till it would agree with your plans.  aft does the same and ends just by second cutout.


Some images I hope might help  The model shots is the official model of Tiger.. I have two editions of Jecobin plans and neither show it, it could be armour to be added but never was,  the drawings for Victorious are like that, heaps of lets add this but in the end never added.  My belt nearly covers the whole length and the other bit on your plans would be visible on waterline


Bob(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/07/28/IMG_4870.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/07/28/Scan0066.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/07/28/IMG_4871.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/07/28/port-557.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/07/28/port-548.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/07/28/1407420.jpg)



Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 29, 2019, 10:09:47 am

 HI again Bob it looks like my plans are wrong  <*< >>:-( an you are right  :-)) NOT GOOD CONSIDERING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY I PAID FOR THE PLANS   well you live an learn normaly the hard way >:-o .  But  many thanks  :-)) on that again you are a star  :-)) well that's a relief  as I don't now have to build an fit the bloomin armour belt in them postions on the hull.So what I can see of it the A-belt  starts at front on hull just below the start of the bridge an finishes just before the second aperture or cutout  judgein by your green tape marks  so that's what  I will do an build it like that .Just as well I jionded this forum an met you as you've been really helpful an saved me a lot of work regards that A-belt an I cannot thank you enough for you help regards that radar as well an the execlent  tiger badge great stuff cheers I know I wont need them for a fair while but ive found out that in this model  building game from  building my past models  get as much info as possible while you can as it might not be there later an I should think you are the same Bob many thanks
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 29, 2019, 10:31:40 am

Another question Bob while I think of it why is there so many hand rails around the stern ?
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on July 29, 2019, 10:44:17 am
Flight deck or quarter deck?
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 29, 2019, 10:58:53 am
Flight deck or quarter deck?
Another question Bob while I think of it why is there so many hand rails around the stern ?
chris

WELL on the stern hull sides  nr 1/4 deck an flight deck ? or are these hand rails fitted for the hull painters ? but if that's the case why no hand rails on the rest of the length of the hull ?
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on July 29, 2019, 01:35:04 pm

Chris ah I see what you mean now I can look at images, assuming you mean the verticals, to be honest I have no idea and have tried for years to discover but to no avail so far.


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 29, 2019, 03:02:08 pm
Chris ah I see what you mean now I can look at images, assuming you mean the verticals, to be honest I have no idea and have tried for years to discover but to no avail so far.


Bob

Well Bob I think the vertical hand rails are for the hull painters as if you think about it  as the hull curves outward as it goes upward   ive seen pics of sailors hangin over the hull edge in tiny chairs from ropes paintin the hull  an they can use the handrails to pull themselves closer to the hull when not much to do like a punishment put onto jankers I think the term is as that the punishment terms in the RAF don't know about navy though an when I worked as a civvie up at RAF COLTISHALL it was  unless anyone eles knows different ?
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 09, 2019, 09:50:34 am

HI all well the tiger build continues
an here a couple shots of the bow  as I wanted to make the bow very strong in case she hits the concrete sides of our pond so I fitted light wheigth balsa wood in the openins an then I pourded resin in to make it strong
linkpic
https://ibb.co/3hFfbXn
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 09, 2019, 09:52:42 am
https://ibb.co/Gn3wTg7
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on August 09, 2019, 09:54:46 am
HI all well the tiger build continues
an here a couple shots of the bow  as I wanted to make the bow very strong in case she hits the concrete sides of our pond so I fitted light wheigth balsa wood in the openins an then I poured resin in to make it strong
linkpic
https://ibb.co/3hFfbXn (https://ibb.co/3hFfbXn)


(https://i.ibb.co/s3154SZ/IMG-4627.jpg)


(https://i.ibb.co/pbrDyC2/IMG-4628.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 09, 2019, 10:00:13 am

Here in this pic  im nr finished firber glassin inside  the bow section  an oh how I hated doin that F/G as its a horrible smelly job >>:-( but all F/G done now thank goodness just the last bit of matin to fit
https://ibb.co/CbVqMQv (https://ibb.co/CbVqMQv)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 09, 2019, 10:02:43 am

HI Andy nice to see you are on the ball cheers
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on August 09, 2019, 10:05:58 am
Here in this pic  im nr finished firber glassin inside  the bow section  an oh how I hated doin that F/G as its a horrible smelly job >>:-( but all F/G done now thank goodness just the last bit of matin to fit
https://ibb.co/CbVqMQv (https://ibb.co/CbVqMQv)


(https://i.ibb.co/D9wN8Qk/IMG-4629.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on August 09, 2019, 10:07:07 am
HI Andy nice to see you are on the ball cheers
chris
Sometimes I never log out so it sometimes only looks like I'm here when I'm not  {-)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 09, 2019, 10:09:49 am

Here a couple of pics of the stern section bein F/G
https://ibb.co/w0HfPq5 (https://ibb.co/w0HfPq5)
https://ibb.co/3CXbnWR (https://ibb.co/3CXbnWR)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 09, 2019, 10:20:36 am

An bow section finished regards F/G an matin all trimed off
https://ibb.co/Vwpx9TN
an rear section done
https://ibb.co/rpKNQ33
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 09, 2019, 10:28:09 am

Shes now begining to look like a ship as she is now all sanded down now ive got to do the tedious bit of findin an fillin any low aera's in hull
 an dimples then more sandin but she's comin on
https://ibb.co/Vm3hhPC
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on August 09, 2019, 10:30:45 am
Here a couple of pics of the stern section bein F/G
https://ibb.co/w0HfPq5 (https://ibb.co/w0HfPq5)
https://ibb.co/3CXbnWR (https://ibb.co/3CXbnWR)


(https://i.ibb.co/qyGvc8T/IMG-4635.jpg)


(https://i.ibb.co/fxRWstD/IMG-4636.jpg)



Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on August 09, 2019, 10:31:42 am
An bow section finished regards F/G an matin all trimed off
https://ibb.co/Vwpx9TN (https://ibb.co/Vwpx9TN)
an rear section done
https://ibb.co/rpKNQ33 (https://ibb.co/rpKNQ33)


(https://i.ibb.co/J3FqtHd/IMG-4641.jpg)


(https://i.ibb.co/wQZjd77/IMG-4650.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 09, 2019, 10:32:16 am

An jumpin the gun a bit while I had the hull togeather I thought that I draw around it an mark out the deck so its ready to be cut out when im that far ahead
well that all for now
chris
https://ibb.co/VMYMGBL (https://ibb.co/VMYMGBL)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on August 09, 2019, 10:32:22 am
Shes now begining to look like a ship as she is now all sanded down now ive got to do the tedious bit of findin an fillin any low aera's in hull
 an dimples then more sandin but she's comin on
https://ibb.co/Vm3hhPC (https://ibb.co/Vm3hhPC)


(https://i.ibb.co/GTF11bM/IMG-4647.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on August 09, 2019, 10:32:50 am
An jumpin the gun a bit while I had the hull togeather I thought that I draw around it an mark out the deck so its ready to be cut out when im that far ahead
well that all for now
chris
https://ibb.co/VMYMGBL (https://ibb.co/VMYMGBL)


(https://i.ibb.co/dk4kvKf/IMG-4653.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 09, 2019, 10:43:54 am

OH BOY cheers Andy very nice of you to post pics for me much appreciated :-)) all best till the nxt time
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Akira on August 09, 2019, 12:59:30 pm
I hope this is not considered dumb or rude, but regarding the "armour" plating referenced in the preceding photo. 1) For armour plating, why is it mounted so high on the hull? All other capital ships I've seen mount armour just above to well below the waterline. In fact in the photo, it appears to be mounted above what I would "assume" to be her armoured deck. 2) The photo shows that this plating is dished to much the same degree as the hull plating which leads me to believe that it is 1) soft steel, 2) not hardened plate.
To me this appears much more like hull strengthening strakes, very similar to those applied to Japanese cruisers and destroyers following the Fleet incident that showed up the longitudinal weakness of their design.
I realize that this is, in a way a moot point. The real point being to add detail to the hull, which will look fantastic, so please bear with my inquiring mind.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 09, 2019, 02:36:41 pm
I hope this is not considered dumb or rude, but regarding the "armour" plating referenced in the preceding photo. 1) For armour plating, why is it mounted so high on the hull? All other capital ships I've seen mount armour just above to well below the waterline. In fact in the photo, it appears to be mounted above what I would "assume" to be her armoured deck. 2) The photo shows that this plating is dished to much the same degree as the hull plating which leads me to believe that it is 1) soft steel, 2) not hardened plate.
To me this appears much more like hull strengthening strakes, very similar to those applied to Japanese cruisers and destroyers following the Fleet incident that showed up the longitudinal weakness of their design.
I realize that this is, in a way a moot point. The real point being to add detail to the hull, which will look fantastic, so please bear with my inquiring mind.

 
HI Akira  well from what  Ive seen so far the armour  plateing is a lot  thicker an as you say at the W/L an below an that's what my plan shows. But from phot;s  of the real ship its different so I think I will go with my plans  on that many thanks for your intrest
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Akira on August 09, 2019, 06:01:04 pm
Hi Chris, I agree. Go with your plan. There is a nice photo of Tiger as completed, circa 1959, on pgs 294-295 of "British Cruisers, Two World Wars and After" by Norman Friedman. It shows her belt rather clearly. If you send me an e-mail address, I' try to scan them and send them to you, if you like.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 09, 2019, 06:52:28 pm
Hi Chris, I agree. Go with your plan. There is a nice photo of Tiger as completed, circa 1959, on pgs 294-295 of "British Cruisers, Two World Wars and After" by Norman Friedman. It shows her belt rather clearly. If you send me an e-mail address, I' try to scan them and send them to you, if you like.

HI   Akira  gmail sent
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Akira on August 09, 2019, 07:37:44 pm
Chris, On their way.Jonathan
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 15, 2019, 07:11:52 pm

HI ALL
the build continuses in the first pic ive just finished paintin the hull sandin sealer an sanded it all down boy what a job an the pong
https://ibb.co/r7y08ZH
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 15, 2019, 07:14:54 pm

here im now getting ready to spray the rear section in grey primer
https://ibb.co/5LzLVWC
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 15, 2019, 07:16:38 pm

An now well under way sprayin
https://ibb.co/3ptGcQB
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 15, 2019, 07:17:47 pm
https://ibb.co/r61R2b0
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 15, 2019, 07:21:48 pm

AN done an its come up better than I expected :-)) as the primer will show up any little cracks so to fill an sand down   :-)
https://ibb.co/jyDjGbF
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 15, 2019, 07:23:20 pm

Now the front section
https://ibb.co/HVYT7YZ
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 15, 2019, 07:27:22 pm

AN  "xxxxx" >>:-( im nr out of paint I thought a 500ml spray would go further that this  >>:-( <*< only half done
https://ibb.co/L51n4dF (https://ibb.co/L51n4dF)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 15, 2019, 07:34:51 pm

AN yes I did run out of primer >>:-( will have to go an get some more tomorrow an had to stand them in the shed as swmbo said youre not bringin that smelly paint indoors so i'll proberlly sleep with it in the shed tonight  :-)) %) lol {-)
https://ibb.co/2hV1nGc
chris

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on August 18, 2019, 04:03:09 pm



Which images do you refer to? I can find none that have "dished" in plates apart from the normal ships plating, the armour belt defo does not have that feature at all. Also if you look at KGV class the armour comes up same as Tigers.


Bob
I hope this is not considered dumb or rude, but regarding the "armour" plating referenced in the preceding photo. 1) For armour plating, why is it mounted so high on the hull? All other capital ships I've seen mount armour just above to well below the waterline. In fact in the photo, it appears to be mounted above what I would "assume" to be her armoured deck. 2) The photo shows that this plating is dished to much the same degree as the hull plating which leads me to believe that it is 1) soft steel, 2) not hardened plate.
To me this appears much more like hull strengthening strakes, very similar to those applied to Japanese cruisers and destroyers following the Fleet incident that showed up the longitudinal weakness of their design.
I realize that this is, in a way a moot point. The real point being to add detail to the hull, which will look fantastic, so please bear with my inquiring mind.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on August 18, 2019, 04:49:56 pm
HI ALL
the build continuses in the first pic ive just finished paintin the hull sandin sealer an sanded it all down boy what a job an the pong
https://ibb.co/r7y08ZH (https://ibb.co/r7y08ZH)


(https://i.ibb.co/LkpRjC1/IMG-4656.jpg)


(https://i.ibb.co/GR1RjvG/IMG-4658.jpg)


(https://i.ibb.co/CbxNQDh/IMG-4659.jpg)


(https://i.ibb.co/BZS5243/IMG-4660.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on August 18, 2019, 04:53:08 pm
AN done an its come up better than I expected :-)) as the primer will show up any little cracks so to fill an sand down   :-)
https://ibb.co/jyDjGbF (https://ibb.co/jyDjGbF)


(https://i.ibb.co/x16rGXQ/IMG-4661.jpg)


(https://i.ibb.co/R9PT2P8/IMG-4662.jpg)


(https://i.ibb.co/BNBq82p/IMG-4663.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 18, 2019, 05:20:12 pm

Cheers Andy for pics upload  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 18, 2019, 05:22:49 pm

Bob PM sent regards pics of the deck  recess
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on August 18, 2019, 05:41:42 pm

Chris
Hope these explain it for you, took me a couple of goes to get it right  :} :}


Bob


(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/08/18/Scan0062.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/08/18/Scan0053.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/08/18/port-137.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/08/18/port-552.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 18, 2019, 05:59:47 pm

HI Bob many thanks you the man yes you've hit the nail on the head they are just the pics I was lookin for :-)) . As on my plans there are so many line' s running into one another its a night mare >>:-( <*< an im used to big plan after building my Nimitz carrier but I think this tiger build is  harder an more complex . An it looks like im gonna have to cut the hull side to allow the boats recess cheers an its gonna be a devil  >>:-( to try an do a 45/degree bevel on the armour plate belt will see how it goes all best  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 18, 2019, 06:07:47 pm

AN  Bob lookin at the pics yourve just posted it helps me to clayifiy the armour belt better  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: raflaunches on August 18, 2019, 06:28:24 pm
Nice work Chris. :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 18, 2019, 06:44:56 pm
Nice work Chris. :-))

Cheers   nick
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 19, 2019, 12:36:40 pm

HI Bob well ive just laid the armour belt on the hull dead where it should go regards the hull joint does it look about right ? as this is how it shows on my plans
an im now goin to take the a/belt out into shed to sand the edges of it to 45/degress this  is the starboard side
chris
https://ibb.co/StC0bnM (https://ibb.co/StC0bnM)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 19, 2019, 12:40:20 pm

An port side
https://ibb.co/tsn7nrs
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 19, 2019, 12:45:54 pm

AN here a shot of the A/BELT on the HULL JOINT an I think it looks about right Bob from lookin at your pictures an guys please exscuse the messy carpet as we have got a pure white cat called snowball an as fast as jen hovers up snowball is hellbent on messin it up again with her hairs >>:-(
chris
https://ibb.co/hRMZNgb (https://ibb.co/hRMZNgb)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 19, 2019, 01:02:23 pm

The culprit >>:-( LOL but we wont be without her as she is a dear pet an good company
https://ibb.co/svbfBq1 (https://ibb.co/svbfBq1)
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on August 19, 2019, 01:13:11 pm
HI Bob well ive just laid the armour belt on the hull dead where it should go regards the hull joint does it look about right ? as this is how it shows on my plans
an im now goin to take the a/belt out into shed to sand the edges of it to 45/degress this  is the starboard side
chris
https://ibb.co/StC0bnM (https://ibb.co/StC0bnM)


(https://i.ibb.co/tqrcgsv/IMG-4667.jpg)
and port side
(https://i.ibb.co/G2GKGS2/IMG-4668.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on August 19, 2019, 01:15:00 pm
AN here a shot of the A/BELT on the HULL JOINT an I think it looks about right Bob from lookin at your pictures an guys please exscuse the messy carpet as we have got a pure white cat called snowball an as fast as jen hovers up snowball is hellbent on messin it up again with her hairs >>:-(
chris
https://ibb.co/hRMZNgb (https://ibb.co/hRMZNgb)


(https://i.ibb.co/0jXFLnT/IMG-4669.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on August 19, 2019, 01:15:37 pm
The culprit >>:-( LOL but we wont be without her as she is a dear pet an good company
https://ibb.co/svbfBq1 (https://ibb.co/svbfBq1)
chris
(https://i.ibb.co/8DNCh9x/IMG-4558.jpg)



Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 19, 2019, 01:28:55 pm

I'LL  keep sayin this but cheers Andy for pics upload  much appreicaited
chris :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on August 19, 2019, 01:33:24 pm
I'LL  keep sayin this but cheers Andy for pics upload  much appreicaited
chris :-))


I know it goes against the grain Chris but no need  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 19, 2019, 01:40:16 pm

OK THANKS Andy :-)) but if someone helps me I always like to say thank you but ok when you post pics in future I/ll just leave it at that ok
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on August 19, 2019, 03:16:38 pm

Yep looks about right, and if you have it from the plans should be fine, as you have the images to relate to as well.


Bob


AN here a shot of the A/BELT on the HULL JOINT an I think it looks about right Bob from lookin at your pictures an guys please exscuse the messy carpet as we have got a pure white cat called snowball an as fast as jen hovers up snowball is hellbent on messin it up again with her hairs >>:-(
chris
https://ibb.co/hRMZNgb (https://ibb.co/hRMZNgb)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 19, 2019, 05:35:45 pm
Yep looks about right, and if you have it from the plans should be fine, as you have the images to relate to as well.


Bob



HI Bob well now I got your blessing on the armour belt  {-) :-)) I can carry on with the build  but seriously you know a lot more about the ship than I do an you sayin it looks ok   means a lot to me as it means to me that im heading in the right direction .But im soon goona have to go off scale for a while as I want to fit a bow thruster in her I know the real ship dint have one but needs must as this big hull ig gonna catch the wind
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 23, 2019, 05:20:31 pm

HI GUYS
another small update
an still tryin to fit the armour  belt  on her an its provein very tricky here ive taped it all down to the hull to see if it will pull tight into the hull contours without leavein gaps
https://ibb.co/FD7qtRx


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 23, 2019, 05:25:35 pm

in this pic im now starting to glue the A/BELT to the hull an this must go on dead right or the rear belt will not match up then I will be right in it
https://ibb.co/r4z7Zfn
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 23, 2019, 05:29:43 pm

Lookin at the top of the a/belt an you can see how much its got to be forced down onto the hull to glue about  half an inch not good but hopefully it will pull in
https://ibb.co/GC666pm
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 23, 2019, 05:32:57 pm

Anyway  got to leave it for a day or so now for glue to go off  an my bow thruster came today an it looks the business
https://ibb.co/3sPqxsW
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 23, 2019, 05:34:55 pm

Exsploded view of it just got to hope it will do the job
https://ibb.co/4jWMVpX
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 23, 2019, 05:37:16 pm

An all put back togeather  ready to be installed in hull
https://ibb.co/d0pSBBp
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on August 23, 2019, 05:42:54 pm
HI GUYS
another small update
an still tryin to fit the armour  belt  on her an its provein very tricky here ive taped it all down to the hull to see if it will pull tight into the hull contours without leavein gaps
https://ibb.co/FD7qtRx (https://ibb.co/FD7qtRx)
(https://i.ibb.co/x758QxC/IMG-4670.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on August 23, 2019, 05:43:35 pm
in this pic im now starting to glue the A/BELT to the hull an this must go on dead right or the rear belt will not match up then I will be right in it
https://ibb.co/r4z7Zfn (https://ibb.co/r4z7Zfn)


(https://i.ibb.co/Gc8xV3g/IMG-4671.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on August 23, 2019, 05:44:08 pm
Lookin at the top of the a/belt an you can see how much its got to be forced down onto the hull to glue about  half an inch not good but hopefully it will pull in
https://ibb.co/GC666pm (https://ibb.co/GC666pm)


(https://i.ibb.co/r5jjj09/IMG-4672.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on August 23, 2019, 05:44:51 pm
Anyway  got to leave it for a day or so now for glue to go off  an my bow thruster came today an it looks the business
https://ibb.co/3sPqxsW (https://ibb.co/3sPqxsW)


(https://i.ibb.co/H29sc2Y/IMG-4673.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on August 23, 2019, 05:45:21 pm
Exsploded view of it just got to hope it will do the job
https://ibb.co/4jWMVpX (https://ibb.co/4jWMVpX)


(https://i.ibb.co/nDrfLjY/IMG-4674.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on August 23, 2019, 05:45:50 pm
An all put back togeather  ready to be installed in hull
https://ibb.co/d0pSBBp (https://ibb.co/d0pSBBp)


(https://i.ibb.co/QFHZ99H/IMG-4675.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 30, 2019, 09:30:33 am

HI Bob could i ask you a favour could you please put up the rest of the ships interior like you did with the stern section please like below
https://ibb.co/HVZcyqp  LINK PICTURE
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on August 30, 2019, 10:07:33 am
HI Bob could i ask you a favour could you please put up the rest of the ships interior like you did with the stern section please like below
https://ibb.co/HVZcyqp (https://ibb.co/HVZcyqp)  LINK PICTURE
chris
(https://i.ibb.co/drZNvDJ/IMG-1821.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on August 30, 2019, 10:29:08 am

Chris
Hope these are of use, note the original funnel layout


Bob


(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/08/30/IMG_1824.jpg)
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(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/08/30/IMG_1818.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/08/30/IMG_1815.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/08/30/IMG_1817.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/08/30/IMG_1816.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 30, 2019, 10:53:36 am

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 30, 2019, 11:27:23 am

HI again Bob I hope you don't mind me asking this question but if you do please ignore it but where did  you buy the turret gearing and motor mount in pic as I know I'm a long way from needing it but I always like to look ahead on things I might need
all best chris
https://ibb.co/0cyjGP5 (https://ibb.co/0cyjGP5)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on August 30, 2019, 11:55:50 am

Chris
The bits came from a dead Hen Long tank, but due to the new turret, that system has now gone, all I have now is the barbette which is obviously hollow with a servo fixed underneath and a shaft fitted to a servo arm which was trimmed so it was a force fit into a plastic tube, this is located into the the turret roof, this allows easy removal if required, the servo is fitted with a turret servo control from model radio workshop, this little device allows you to traverse and when you let go of the stick the turret stays in that location, it also gives you more left and right arcs and you can set servo speed as well, all in all it works fine.  Next time I drag her out I will do happy snaps for you


Bob

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 30, 2019, 03:16:32 pm

OK Bob cheers i'll look forward to that  :-)) and I have just finished fitting all four bits of the armour belt on my tiger 's hull. Cor took some doing to bend it to the hull curves  >>:-( took a little over two wks  to fit them but I enjoyed the challenge and now I can have a rest an be pleased with myself as I'm pooped (phew)
chris :-)) NXT fitting the bow thruster then the portholes 
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 03, 2019, 06:50:06 pm

HI ALL
just a small update to say the build continues and after much steaming to bend  the 3mm armour belt on all four bits are fitted to the hull contours took me two wks and I would not want to do that again in a hurry (phew)

linkpic
https://ibb.co/sWZJRW7 (https://ibb.co/sWZJRW7)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 03, 2019, 06:58:43 pm

and I drew out the apertures from the plans and now ready to cut them out
https://ibb.co/wLS6DbJ (https://ibb.co/wLS6DbJ)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 03, 2019, 07:02:17 pm

And cutout now for the hard work of filing them out so they are nice and straight and rounded corners  <:(
https://ibb.co/VT388PH (https://ibb.co/VT388PH)
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on September 03, 2019, 08:16:51 pm
HI ALL
just a small update to say the build continues and after much steamind to bend  the 3mm armour belt on all four bits are fitted to the hull contours took me two wks and I would not want to do that again in a hurry (phew)

linkpic
https://ibb.co/sWZJRW7 (https://ibb.co/sWZJRW7)


(https://i.ibb.co/Y0xTQ0g/IMG-4689.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on September 03, 2019, 08:17:22 pm
and I drew out the apertures from the plans and now ready to cut them out
https://ibb.co/wLS6DbJ (https://ibb.co/wLS6DbJ)


(https://i.ibb.co/n07khV3/IMG-4683.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on September 03, 2019, 08:17:49 pm
And cutout now for the hard work of filing them out so they are nice and straight and rounded corners  <:(
https://ibb.co/VT388PH (https://ibb.co/VT388PH)
chris


(https://i.ibb.co/hVCvvtX/IMG-4688.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on September 03, 2019, 09:24:50 pm

After being away for a bit I come back and see what brilliant progress you have made on the hull Chris! SWMBO didn't look impressed when you took images of the hull upright. It is possible she isn't a Cruiser fan? Perhaps more interested in Destroyers??



Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: madrob on September 03, 2019, 11:34:08 pm
making good progress chris...


did you ever hear anything off bry?
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: RST on September 04, 2019, 12:28:47 am
Pics!!!

Go to your "ibb ...bla bla page".  Click on "embed codes" to the right of "about" under where it says "Frogman2" under the pic, click on "BBC code", 2 or 3 options down, right click, and "save" then....

"Paste" conveniently...  Also, you need a new "g" and "d" buttons on your keyboard LoL!  Never seen it done that way before with pics, usually you just use the "image" button, and paste the link in the pop-up box but whatever, below seems to work perfectly and very easily if it helps for pics on further posts....


(https://i.ibb.co/Rc7WWVh/IMG-4688.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VT388PH)


I've never seen such a contrived image link above (without pic on the original post so I can see the links) for a forum before, but nevermind, it seems to work easy-peasy! (edit, apart from overcoming the "mayhem auto re-arranging format" on posts LoL).


Looks a cracking build anyway, if I can ever add that comment to this post ("A" WYSIWYG thing doesn't always work!)!
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 04, 2019, 11:00:48 am

HI RST
firstly you made me laugh at your blog but I'll explain why it's happening like this as first I'm not very good on computers as getting on in yrs and second I live in a low megabyte area an my pc won't upload very well and it's very slow at that. And Andy has very kindly said he would upload pics for me if I can put up the image link and that's what's been happening and will have to do if I want to show the tiger build
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 04, 2019, 11:13:27 am
making good progress chris...


did you ever hear anything off bry?



HI Rob  hope you are well an glad you like the build but this has so far been a very challenging build due to the hull shape at the stern  an this makes  my Nimitz carrier build like a walk in the park but im getting there an no not heard any thing from bry im afraid
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 04, 2019, 11:29:40 am
After being away for a bit I come back and see what brilliant progress you have made on the hull Chris! SWMBO didn't look impressed when you took images of the hull upright. It is possible she isn't a Cruiser fan? Perhaps more interested in Destroyers??



HI Ballastanksian  thanks for your brilliant comment  :-)) on my hull progress but it's been so far a hard build due to the hull shapes and contours. As been steaming the wood so to bend but I have enjoyed the challenge of the build as this will be my last big build due to health and age (get out the violins  :} ) lol an regards SWMBO she's not smiling in the pics as she has got cancer an not very happy. But she has her good days so just got to make the best of things ain't we and keep plodding along
Chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 23, 2019, 02:34:54 pm

HI ALL
just a small update to show that the build is still happening an not stalled
now fittin in the bowthruster
https://ibb.co/sJHmHD5
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on September 23, 2019, 02:38:06 pm
HI ALL
just a small update to show that the build is still happening an not stalled
now fittin in the bowthruster
https://ibb.co/sJHmHD5 (https://ibb.co/sJHmHD5)


(https://i.ibb.co/mF8D8Yv/IMG-4692.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 23, 2019, 02:39:02 pm

AN fitted an have cut off the bowthrusters tubes to the correct hull length an sanded down nice an smooth
https://ibb.co/L6ZrYzp (https://ibb.co/L6ZrYzp)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on September 23, 2019, 02:40:24 pm
AN fitted an have cut off the bowthrusters tubes to the correct hull length an sanded down nice an smooth
https://ibb.co/L6ZrYzp (https://ibb.co/L6ZrYzp)


(https://i.ibb.co/2PkSW7K/IMG-4703.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 23, 2019, 02:43:44 pm

HERE the bowthruster mountin can be seen all firber glassed into the hull ready to accept the motor
https://ibb.co/mzmchkv (https://ibb.co/mzmchkv)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on September 23, 2019, 02:50:22 pm
HERE the bowthruster mountin can be seen all firber glassed into the hull ready to accept the motor
https://ibb.co/mzmchkv (https://ibb.co/mzmchkv)


(https://i.ibb.co/w6TzpVJ/IMG-4704.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 23, 2019, 02:53:08 pm

AN still on the hull (god don't think i'll ever get off this hull blimey been a heck of a lot of work >>:-( ) an ive just filed out all the apertures so they are nice an straight but later on there will be a lip fitted to all edges
https://ibb.co/2nnckny (https://ibb.co/2nnckny)

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 23, 2019, 02:58:45 pm

AN for a change I thought id get the quarter deck cut out an just fitted in to see how it looks but  its got to come out again so I can fit the rudder an stabilizer's push rods  in whenever that will be
 https://ibb.co/p0dvMtk
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on September 23, 2019, 03:00:49 pm
AN still on the hull (god don't think i'll ever get off this hull blimey been a heck of a lot of work >>:-( ) an ive just filed out all the apertures so they are nice an straight but later on there will be a lip fitted to all edges
https://ibb.co/2nnckny (https://ibb.co/2nnckny)


(https://i.ibb.co/TvvPgvk/IMG-4705.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Taranis on September 23, 2019, 03:01:15 pm
AN for a change I thought id get the quarter deck cut out an just fitted in to see how it looks but  its got to come out again so I can fit the rudder an stabilizer's push rods  in whenever that will be
 https://ibb.co/p0dvMtk (https://ibb.co/p0dvMtk)


(https://i.ibb.co/3rcyjDP/IMG-4706.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 12, 2019, 07:32:23 pm

HI all well time for a small update on the build
an I have spent a bit of dosh on her for a few things that she's gonna need
https://ibb.co/rH6CpvR
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 12, 2019, 07:35:52 pm

HERE I have made an fitted all 8 bilge keels
https://ibb.co/YbfSpKn
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 12, 2019, 07:37:33 pm

Doin a test fit of the prop sharfts
https://ibb.co/m6xV3LG
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 12, 2019, 07:40:16 pm

A angle shot of the sharfts an the bilgle keel can also be seen
https://ibb.co/sVcXfC5
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 12, 2019, 07:43:00 pm

here I have just laid the johnsons motors in side the hull to see if the fit in between the hull frames ok an they do
https://ibb.co/dcdgzVn
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 12, 2019, 07:45:55 pm

An a test of the rudder come stabilizer as these will be cut down an made into stabs later on in the build
https://ibb.co/yyJGRZ3
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 12, 2019, 07:47:47 pm

A shot from the bottom
https://ibb.co/MsVgJsK
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 12, 2019, 07:50:35 pm

an inside the hull shot of the mountings as later on they will be cut down to the correct size to make sure there is enough room for the main drive batt
https://ibb.co/m9wS2ZC
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on October 12, 2019, 10:35:00 pm

coming on nicely, I notice you have a large exposed keel, why is that ?


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 13, 2019, 09:21:39 am
coming on nicely, I notice you have a large exposed keel, why is that ?


Bob

HI Bob yes im pleased with how the build is comin so far without any major problems an regards the large exsposed keel well. When I scartchbuild a ship hull I always think when finshed she maybe top heavy no matter how light the materials used to build S/S an such so the large keel is a half an inch deep an I can fit a half x a half inch  metal counter balance wheight at its furthest point on the hull to counter any anti rolling of the ship.An it looks ok nice an neat not a big ugly blob of lead  as in my time ive seen several people make that mistake on new ships an seen them roll right over an sink.Plus as this hull is not a F/G hull as they are stronger as you well know the bigger keel is more stronger to take the wheight of the big batts an such  how' that for an esplaination ?
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 25, 2019, 06:57:08 pm

HI GUYS time for an update on whats happening on her

an I have been busy makin up the 6 stabilizer's  from small rudders
piclink
https://ibb.co/2MypXmC
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 25, 2019, 07:02:46 pm

A shot of two fitted into hull to see if they will move ok an they do
https://ibb.co/59NgT07
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 25, 2019, 07:05:34 pm

both sections done all 6 stabs fitted
https://ibb.co/WFH9rD4
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 25, 2019, 07:09:08 pm

HERE the stabs are fitted but they all will have to come out again so I can fill them with resin for strength an then to be sandin sealed an then sanded down so they look nice
https://ibb.co/5v6gzDR
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 25, 2019, 07:11:30 pm

Next job makein up 4 A FRAMES  for the prop sharfts
Chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 26, 2019, 11:58:47 am

HI Bob when you built your 1/96 tiger did you have much trouble fitting in the A FRAMES ? as my plans are miles out the top elevation an the side elevation an the rear are all up to 6mm out of alinement an its givin me a bloomin headacke  >>:-( as nothin lines up. <*< So I suppose i'll have to split the difference ? yea  id apprecait a reply if you can please  an its the curveature of the hull also givin problems tryin to get the mearsuments
right but I will do it as I like a challenge but if you give me any advice it would be most helpful 
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on October 26, 2019, 04:21:43 pm

No problems at all Chris, apart from the normal making sure all alignment is correct, I have attached couple images showing mine, remember that the prop shaft length if to short will make the exit angle to steep, hence CVA-01 has shaft two foot long to sit right, and they run really quiet. 
Hope the shots help if not shout out.


Bob


(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/10/26/IMG_4464.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/10/26/IMG_4463.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 26, 2019, 06:34:11 pm

Cheers for the reply Bob an I know your tiger is 1/96 scale an I see you have very short sharfts  as on my plans I have had to  fit 16" inner sharfts an 15" outer sharfts to keep the props level an not pointing down  an on my plans it show the sharft length that comes out of the hull at 6" but what im havin probs with is the angle of the A FRAME on one sheet it shows the frames are angled nearly flat to the hull an then on another it shows the frame nr upright nr like yours so I think I will follow your design an cheers for posting the pics  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 26, 2019, 06:53:44 pm

HI again Bob my main concern is wheather the outer props stick out further than the hull itself so do they ? a pic from the rear would be most helpful cheers
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on October 27, 2019, 11:09:22 am

Chris hope these clarify it for you, the drawing if I recall shows stern view and the amount of splay out of props.


Bob
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/10/27/IMG_5111-Edited.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/10/27/IMG_5109-Edited.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/10/27/IMG_5107-Edited.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/10/27/IMG_5106-Edited.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/10/27/IMG_5108-Edited.jpg)


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 27, 2019, 02:33:23 pm

Cor Cheers Bob just the pics  that I wanted to help me  with fittin in my prop sharfts
these pics will be of imence help you have made me a happy bunny . As now I can now ignore my plans as they show 3 different layouts regards the angle of the A -FRAMES  as it was sendin me round the bend with frustration  >>:-( <*< tryin to fit them an they just dint look right  many thanks much appreciated an is it ok if I download them ?
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on October 27, 2019, 02:59:26 pm

glad they helped, feel free to download




Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 27, 2019, 04:46:34 pm

Cheers Bob  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 01, 2019, 09:38:47 am

Small update on whats happenining on her
have made up the 4 A-FRAMES to hold her sharfts in place
https://ibb.co/SKjgr1F
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 01, 2019, 09:42:21 am

An made up a template to fit to the hull that will hold her props sharfts in place while I fit in the motors
https://ibb.co/0hLcPgj
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 01, 2019, 09:45:31 am
https://ibb.co/rfgSJM4
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 01, 2019, 09:46:42 am
https://ibb.co/9y1DNsG
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 01, 2019, 09:50:34 am

Here a shot inside the hull to see if I can get the motors fitted an sharfts aligned correctly so far just the inner rear two sharfts
https://ibb.co/SQD4N4F
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 01, 2019, 09:56:31 am

A pic from the stern at the props an they are lined up nicely now to fit the other motor an then glass in the A-FRAMES mounts an the sharfts tubes to the hull
chris
https://ibb.co/MG9yYTq
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 08, 2019, 09:42:11 pm

HI ROB47
 HI  Bob can you remember on tiger we was talkin about that small radar on the back of the  main mast whaether it rotated or such as I wanted to make it work well a friend of mine who lives in Portsmouth  told me about that radar is shown rotateing on utube so I can get it workin on my tiger after all
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on November 08, 2019, 10:04:08 pm
Chris
Not convinced as it would useless to fully rotate as most of it would face the mainmast. I still think the 278 was nodding dog type like itís predecc and possibly limited traverse. Itís role is height finding


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 08, 2019, 10:34:12 pm
Chris
Not convinced as it would useless to fully rotate as most of it would face the mainmast. I still think the 278 was nodding dog type like itís predecc and possibly limited traverse. Itís role is height finding


Bob

[/quote
 HI again Bob well the one shown on the utube was on a county class   an its on utube call county class ship of the future an to me it looks the same radar but I could be wrong an you right will try an find out more in my spare time
all best to you  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 09, 2019, 10:33:42 am

HI all time for a small update
ive been an still am tryin to fit all 4 prop sharfts tubes  in their right position's if poss
its been a heck of a job as its difficult to measure on this hull due to the hull curvature
but I think im getting there
1st linkpic I have made a cardboard template up an when it was the correct shape I transfferded it to wood as much stronger to hold the outer sharfts in place
https://ibb.co/vZLGLKM
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 09, 2019, 10:35:40 am
https://ibb.co/3WGpfsp
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 09, 2019, 10:43:16 am

An I think I have managed to get the motors in the right places as the sharfts  have to go right to the motor spindle they will be slighty more angled then if I had some cambelt drive motor mounts an MFA don't make them anymore not unless somebody can tell me different
https://ibb.co/613ncKd
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 09, 2019, 10:51:38 am

Close up shot of  S/S  prop tubes an sharfts nr right by the plans but im thinkin the plans may be a guide only as they show two different A- frame angles but these angles are the only ones that will fit the hull so onwards an upwards
https://ibb.co/FVWkfSv
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 09, 2019, 10:53:51 am

An a overall shot of the stern section
https://ibb.co/643jL63
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 09, 2019, 11:09:41 am

An ive left about 3/8th of an inch between the props tips an the hull side just in case I need or want to fit bigger props on her as its a big hull
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: derekwarner on November 09, 2019, 11:16:21 am
Chris.......are you intending to install 'outby', or 'inby' rotating [turning] propellers?


If you look carefully at post #246, you will see  %)   the prop rotation differs between the various images shown :-X

Derek
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 09, 2019, 12:53:47 pm
Chris.......are you intending to install 'outby', or 'inby' rotating [turning] propellers?


If you look carefully at post #246, you will see  %)   the prop rotation differs between the various images shown :-X

Derek



HI Derek  im hopein to have them turning inwards as hopefully it will give more prop thrust on the big rudder an hope she will turn quicker as I don't want to hit other peoples boats. An the reason you see the props different in the pics  was I just put the props on the sharfts to measure the distance between the props tips an hull as it has been difficult to get the sharfts alignment right how I want them an I must have had them in an out about 20 times as I  a bit fussy an it niggles me if im not happy with it ive been told I worry to much but that's just me
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on November 11, 2019, 10:45:18 pm
Chris
I have the definitive answer for the 278 Radar
It does NOT rotate 360 degrees for the reason I mentioned about it facing the main mast. What it does do is traverse between set arcs left and right
Info from radar tech HMS Blake same layout as Tiger
Hope this helps


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 12, 2019, 09:04:59 am
Chris
I have the definitive answer for the 278 Radar
It does NOT rotate 360 degrees for the reason I mentioned about it facing the main mast. What it does do is traverse between set arcs left and right
Info from radar tech HMS Blake same layout as Tiger
Hope this helps


Bob



HI Bob so simply put the radar moves just from left to right an right to left. So how big my main mast is all I need to make out of very tiny gears an tiny ball joint is a piston affair so as the main sharft that turns the big radar on the top the piston unit will traverse the 278 from left to right an back again an so on cheers an many thanks you've made me a happy man  :-)) as I like to try an get things reasonable right as when I built my HMS CAMBELTOWN F86 type 22 frigate in 1/72 scale .I had a  R/N picture of the ship an the crew what were out on the decks wore black trousers an yellow wind breakers an I  painted my crew figures like this an as I was sailin her up Norwich pond when a gent came over an said you have got that wrong m8 he said we wear whites an shorts as he had just left the ship in malta an flew home .But he dint take into account that the R/N pic I had modelled on was in cold wheather which I pointed out to him an he just walked away leaveing us all quite miffed at the pond funny ole world isn't it
all best chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on November 12, 2019, 10:24:30 am

Chris
Yes "experts" can be amusing, once had a guy tell me that there were several ships in the Tiger class other than the three that were built, sometimes you have to bite your tongue.


Bob
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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 12, 2019, 10:46:20 am
Chris
Yes "experts" can be amusing, once had a guy tell me that there were several ships in the Tiger class other than the three that were built, sometimes you have to bite your tongue.


Bob
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YEA you right there Bob just got to try an be diplomatatic an as you say bite your tongue
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 14, 2019, 02:35:41 pm

HI all just another small update
ive been tryin to fit in the hull  the four prop tubes come sharfts  an its been a devil to do as all the hull curves have made it very awkward to get the measurements right >>:-( <*< in this piclink I have been maskin up all the prop tubes holes in the hull so that I can pour in resin to hold the tubes in place
https://ibb.co/qpbzHT5
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 14, 2019, 02:39:21 pm

An here inside the hull I have fitted plastercine dams to hold the resin in place just got to hope they don't leak
https://ibb.co/pXrsr2t
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 14, 2019, 02:42:26 pm

I have laid the hull fairly level at an angle so that as I pour in the resin it wont run everywhere
https://ibb.co/q59Gk11
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 14, 2019, 02:46:44 pm

An it worked out lovley all sharft tubes in ok an A-FRAMES all line up ok
https://ibb.co/C8qFCRX
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 14, 2019, 02:49:48 pm
https://ibb.co/9hnRQb0
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 14, 2019, 02:52:32 pm

all that remains now on this bit of the build is to sand down any rough edges
https://ibb.co/7jwbq9R
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 14, 2019, 02:55:34 pm

THE right way up to see the sharfts tubes on the port side
https://ibb.co/ZLw5Ljh
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 14, 2019, 02:57:48 pm

an im fairly pleased with how its turning out a starb side shot
https://ibb.co/s1p6sJB
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 14, 2019, 03:02:40 pm

here a shot of the motors layout just got to hope these motors will be powerfull enough to propel her on the pond
 %) chris
https://ibb.co/VV3KGRM
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on November 26, 2019, 01:08:25 pm

Chris hope these are of use


Bob


(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/11/26/Tiger-circa-1976-012.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/11/26/Scan0070.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/11/26/port-1043.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/11/26/port-1042.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/11/26/port-140.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/11/26/port-1041.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/11/26/port-547.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2019/11/26/port-053.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 26, 2019, 07:03:00 pm

OH CHEERS Bob yes they just what I wanted  :-)) as ive been studyin the plans on the bridge S/S  an I understand them better now an with the pics you have put up  I'll be able to manage  now many thanks an much appreciated  :-))
all best chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 04, 2019, 09:41:24 am

HI Bob yea ive found out what you mean on nav  lights very strange to have them on the deck level as they are not shown on my plans thank you
chris :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 15, 2020, 10:00:05 am

HI ALL
a few more pic links of how the build is goin an in the 1st pic ive just laid on the deck on the hull to mark out where things are gonna be
https://ibb.co/c17cK4v
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 15, 2020, 10:06:02 am

Here ive cut out the deck access hatches an the outer deck edges which will be gluded  down onto the hull
https://ibb.co/p0Yj02F
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 15, 2020, 10:09:05 am

AN here the deck edges are all gluded down onto the hull
https://ibb.co/fnqRJD0
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 15, 2020, 10:12:56 am

AN now here just fittin in the main deck panles to see if they fit ok an they did an I have also fitted the ones in the bow
https://ibb.co/TL14w3w
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 15, 2020, 10:18:08 am

AN ive also got to the point where I had to think an do fittin in the hull joint the main electric plug an the low voltage 44 pin eletric plug to power servos an other electrical units
https://ibb.co/b79G0H8
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 15, 2020, 10:21:22 am

here ive solded all the wires onto the 44 pins electric plug (phew ) both of them
https://ibb.co/7zrH0fk
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 15, 2020, 10:23:47 am

AN here both plugs an wirein harness will now be packed away till I need them
https://ibb.co/5F3PR5s
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 15, 2020, 10:26:12 am

Next now starting on the S/S under the small  3"gun turret
https://ibb.co/2Fm7P94
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on January 15, 2020, 11:06:16 am

taking shape Chris and looking good


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Chris67 on January 18, 2020, 05:36:37 pm

What a hell of a job !!! :-)) :-)) %% %%
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 18, 2020, 10:35:10 pm
What a hell of a job !!! :-)) :-)) %% %%



THANK you Chris67  yes this has been a hell of a build but a lot more still to come when fittin in workin features thank you for lookin in at the build an your intrest  :-)) 
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: derekwarner on January 18, 2020, 11:35:46 pm
Yes Chris, an excellent build.......[just digressing, the ratio of Officers to Enlisted Sailors appears a little heavily weighted]


7 Officers  %)  observing or supervising 6 Enlisted Sailors??

Derek
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 19, 2020, 12:53:06 pm
Yes Chris, an excellent build.......[just digressing, the ratio of Officers to Enlisted Sailors appears a little heavily weighted]


7 Officers  %)  observing or supervising 6 Enlisted Sailors??


Derek


HI Derek well that's what the pic show perhaps the officers dint have a lot to do ?
an thank you for your kind comments on my tiger build still a heck of a lot to build though but im enjoyin it
chris

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on January 19, 2020, 01:41:14 pm





Derek
Would suggest that some are PO's and or Chiefs, can only see rings on two of the group


Bob
Yes Chris, an excellent build.......[just digressing, the ratio of Officers to Enlisted Sailors appears a little heavily weighted]


7 Officers  %)  observing or supervising 6 Enlisted Sailors??

Derek
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: derekwarner on January 19, 2020, 09:39:32 pm
Well.....of course your fair call Rob.....however I did not state 'Commissioned'  Officers...certainly a different ratio to any RAS or Person transfer I have seen with our RAN


Derek
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 26, 2020, 08:15:31 pm
HI ALL
another small update
ive built the small S/S where the "3 gun turret will be on an this can be lifted off for access into the hull

(https://i.ibb.co/cxj4QzC/IMG-4925.jpg)
https://ibb.co/DLZ0Q38
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 26, 2020, 08:17:57 pm
HERE im now starting to build the main bridge S/S

(https://i.ibb.co/52BTvkY/IMG-4938.jpg)

https://ibb.co/8X6M2bz
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 26, 2020, 08:20:16 pm
CLOSE UP SHOT of the main power 25 pins electric plugs to bring power to the bridge

(https://i.ibb.co/Y79b9PS/IMG-4939.jpg)
https://ibb.co/gM161m8
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 26, 2020, 08:22:32 pm
An all the wires fitted

(https://i.ibb.co/dmJpQX3/IMG-4945.jpg)
https://ibb.co/cYX8NRp
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 26, 2020, 08:24:32 pm
An it all fitted lovely to the deck

(https://i.ibb.co/kG0YQq2/IMG-4946.jpg)
https://ibb.co/VLDX2MY
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 26, 2020, 08:28:06 pm
Frontal shot an its beginning to look like it should do  :-)) but still a lot more to do

(http://jhttps://i.ibb.co/PG0VXsY/IMG-4947.jpg)
https://ibb.co/CKDSCpt
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on January 27, 2020, 10:32:59 am

looking good Chris, reaching that stage when it starts to look like a ship rather than a pile of wood and fibreglass.




Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 27, 2020, 01:07:58 pm
looking good Chris, reaching that stage when it starts to look like a ship rather than a pile of wood and fibreglass.




Bob

HI Bob yea you are right  its comin on great the build is im really lookin forward to building the main bridge S/S which im now startin  an thank you for putting on my pics cheers
chris :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on January 27, 2020, 02:37:44 pm

Chris


google "Navy gets Tiger" good to see if you not seen it


Bob





Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 27, 2020, 05:51:59 pm

HI Bob can you put up a link to this as ive typed in google an put it in but no joy may be as im in a low megabyte area thanks
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on January 27, 2020, 08:22:05 pm

Chris all you needed to type was Navy gets Tiger, just tried it and it comes up straight away






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujoT_3XUp5M





Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 27, 2020, 08:41:21 pm

OH THANKS Bob had a look on your link as it wont come up how you said through google but the link worked lovely  many thanks but it was certainly a quick utube wasn't it but it was great to see tiger' s guns firein great stuff
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 03, 2020, 07:32:10 pm

HI GUYS
well a little more done on then bridge S/S ive fitted over cross members to take on the 01 deck
https://ibb.co/4Z0qKVf
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 03, 2020, 07:44:13 pm

Here building the front part of the bridge as this has to be strong as I want to have the bridge sections lift off an back on in case any light pack up in the bridge
https://ibb.co/pjPWM2C
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 03, 2020, 07:46:24 pm

AN 01 deck covered an now for 02 deck to be built
https://ibb.co/1TqsYhP
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on February 04, 2020, 02:16:53 pm

taking shape Chris, nice to see the different approaches we have used in building the same vessel


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 04, 2020, 04:47:12 pm
taking shape Chris, nice to see the different approaches we have used in building the same vessel


Bob

HI Bob yea she's comin on an yes we all do things differently don't we
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 28, 2020, 07:23:37 pm

HI ALL a small update on what build state is now here ive done some of the wirein on 01 deck
https://ibb.co/cJ47MJk
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 28, 2020, 07:26:14 pm

an built 02 deck  S/S an fitted in the uptake wirein
https://ibb.co/sWZTWxr
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 28, 2020, 07:28:12 pm

02 deck cut out an just laid on to see if it looks right
https://ibb.co/Fs0m95S
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 28, 2020, 07:29:56 pm

what she looks like so far
https://ibb.co/Jd8VS5R
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 28, 2020, 07:31:49 pm

02 deck wirein fitted in
https://ibb.co/fdJGhGK
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 28, 2020, 07:34:17 pm

here ive just built the lower bridge windows will be drawn on an cut out later in the build
https://ibb.co/B40SVDp
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 28, 2020, 07:35:31 pm

front veiw
https://ibb.co/6rQVQCd
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 28, 2020, 07:38:04 pm

here the bridge has been fitted with its roof an floor for the top bridge
https://ibb.co/mHnV5f0
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 28, 2020, 07:42:02 pm

Well lower bridge is built an fitted but the bridges will be made to be removeable in case say a bridge light packs up or the glass comes loose now to build the top bridge
https://ibb.co/0jYgwqM


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on March 05, 2020, 10:19:28 am

Chris
Hope this image help, its very straightforward, if you go onto the warship R&D there is a drawing of similar set up and a link for the transistor.


Bob
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2020/03/05/IMG_5484.jpg)






Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 05, 2020, 07:14:24 pm

OK cheers Bob i'll have a look
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 15, 2020, 12:32:44 pm
Chris
Hope this image help, its very straightforward, if you go onto the warship R&D there is a drawing of similar set up and a link for the transistor.


Bob
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2020/03/05/IMG_5484.jpg)



HI Bob could you show me where in r/d as Ive looked an cannot find it can you give me a link to it ? please
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on March 15, 2020, 04:42:01 pm

Chris
got to warship r&d, look for title "anyone recognise this component", scroll down and there is a circuit plan


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 15, 2020, 07:39:28 pm
Chris
got to warship r&d, look for title "anyone recognise this component", scroll down and there is a circuit plan


Bob



CHEERS Bob yes ive now found it many thanks
chis
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: RST on March 15, 2020, 08:36:28 pm
Does that work in fresh water please?


Rich
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 15, 2020, 11:03:09 pm

yes I think it does as far as I know
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: derekwarner on March 16, 2020, 03:45:27 am
If you needed to increase the salinity/conductivity of any bilge water whilst running in a fresh water river, creek or inland dam etc, you could always sprinkle a teaspoon of fine or ground Table Salt into the lower bilge area where any water could collect

The fresh water on contact with the fine salt powder would near immediately alter the di-electric potential of this water & so activate the water level switch function

A little light reading........courtesy of Google

https://www.researchgate.net/post/Why_dielectric_constant_both_real_img_increases_with_salt_concentration_in_aqueous_solution_in_THz_frequency_region (https://www.researchgate.net/post/Why_dielectric_constant_both_real_img_increases_with_salt_concentration_in_aqueous_solution_in_THz_frequency_region)


Derek 
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 24, 2020, 10:30:55 am

HI ALL update time on the build well I was thinkin I will fit some W/T doors on her with small hinges so I can open them as I want to fit in lights an some detail in the compartments
https://ibb.co/q0sKMXv
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 24, 2020, 10:34:35 am

an doors fitted on ok
https://ibb.co/hZ0XPW1
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 24, 2020, 10:35:52 am

an in the open postion
https://ibb.co/KctTVv3
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 24, 2020, 10:41:15 am

here back to the bridges electric power plugs ive fitted tiny modualar connecters to take power up to the bridges for lights an such but first them main wires to take the power from the main wirein they are thw small  white wires
https://ibb.co/c1yjZQH
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 24, 2020, 10:44:41 am

an a pic of the mainpower  uptake plug 4 pin fitted in S/S for the bridges to plug into
https://ibb.co/cgQNFfR
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 24, 2020, 10:48:37 am

next the  plug fitted to the bottom bridge this has two lots of wires conneted one lot for the btidge lightgs an the other goin up to another female plug to take power to the top bridge
https://ibb.co/xG3x09w
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 24, 2020, 10:59:59 am

here a shot of the bottom bridge fitted with the power uptake plug goin to the top bridge I have made them like this so I can remove both bridges from the 02 S/S to fit in the glass an lights an such after paint sprayin in the comin months when warmer wheather
https://ibb.co/ftTTLJn
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 24, 2020, 11:01:48 am

an the top bridge fitted with its power plug
https://ibb.co/59nyDK0
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 24, 2020, 11:03:49 am

underside shot of 02 deck an bridge fitted to it
https://ibb.co/wC3hcQn


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 24, 2020, 11:10:02 am

an all the wires in the 02 DECK will work say things like radar motors an floodlights an anti collishion lights an steamin lights on the mast an intertior lights  in S/S as I want to fit again opening doors with small corridors with a sailor or two standin in there
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 24, 2020, 11:13:28 am

carryin on with the power plugs shot of the main bottom bridge fitted with all its wirein
to the S/S
https://ibb.co/09kGgyJ
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 24, 2020, 11:15:19 am

TOP bridge fitted on now as well
https://ibb.co/71myw2g
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 24, 2020, 11:18:58 am

an last shot for today of the bottom an top bridges all fitted on with all the wirein in an ive tested it all with a circuit tester an all power wires work fine  :-))


https://ibb.co/4ZZDm32
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Weaver on April 17, 2020, 05:16:58 pm
Hi There! Sorry to butt in: I found this thread while I was researching the Tiger class to improve a Shipbucket profile and Google Images took me to some of the gorgeous model shots herein. This is great project! I can't even begin to imagine building a 1/72nd warship: I can barely avoid losing motivation in the middle of a 1/72nd tank!

Anyway, I wanted to chip in my twopenn'th on the Type 278 height-finding radar controversy. I agree that it makes sense that it wouldn't just rotate all the time and would be specifically pointed at targets, however, there's film that proves otherwise. If you look at this Pathť News video on Youtube of HMS Glamorgan, you can quite clearly see the 278 rotating continuously through 360 degrees. Now whether it did that all the time, or whether it sometimes stopped to height-find a target I couldn't say.

The video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7sv9ODO-YU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7sv9ODO-YU)
If the link doesn't work for some reason, the exact title is: HMS Glamorgan - Computer Ship Of The Future (1967)

The 278 bits start at about the 4 minute mark, but the whole thing's only 7 minutes long and hilariously dated so watch the whole thing for a laugh!

Good luck with the Tiger build!  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 17, 2020, 08:04:05 pm
Hi There! Sorry to butt in: I found this thread while I was researching the Tiger class to improve a Shipbucket profile and Google Images took me to some of the gorgeous model shots herein. This is great project! I can't even begin to imagine building a 1/72nd warship: I can barely avoid losing motivation in the middle of a 1/72nd tank!

Anyway, I wanted to chip in my twopenn'th on the Type 278 height-finding radar controversy. I agree that it makes sense that it wouldn't just rotate all the time and would be specifically pointed at targets, however, there's film that proves otherwise. If you look at this Pathť News video on Youtube of HMS Glamorgan, you can quite clearly see the 278 rotating continuously through 360. Now whether it did that all the time, or whether it sometimes stopped to height-find a target I couldn't say.

The video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7sv9ODO-YU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7sv9ODO-YU)
If the link doesn't work for some reason, the exact title is: HMS Glamorgan - Computer Ship Of The Future (1967)

The 278 bits start at about the 4 minute mark, but the whole thing's only 7 minutes long and hilariously dated so watch the whole thing for a laugh!

Good luck with the Tiger build!  :-))



HI 
Weaver MANY  THANKS for your post an don't worry about butt in  an yes ive seen this vid before when I was talkin to Bob about it as a friend who lives in portsmoth  sent me the same vid an yes again it does show the 278 radar rotatein through 360  degrees an I think you are right it proberly does that an when it finds a target then it stops an does height findin but at the moment im a long way from getting that built so i'll sort that when I come to it  but thanks for droppin in on my thread an hope to see you on here again an I will soon post some more piclinks in a day or so as they are all in the camera just got to resize them an load them onto imgbb then i'll load onto site if you want t see the latest pics an many thanks for your kind comments an glad you like the build  :-))
ATB STAY SAFE chris
stay safe
ATB chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on April 17, 2020, 08:19:11 pm

Same radar different mounts for two totally different ships, the data and info I have passed on comes from the guys who served on Tiger


Bob


Hi There! Sorry to butt in: I found this thread while I was researching the Tiger class to improve a Shipbucket profile and Google Images took me to some of the gorgeous model shots herein. This is great project! I can't even begin to imagine building a 1/72nd warship: I can barely avoid losing motivation in the middle of a 1/72nd tank!

Anyway, I wanted to chip in my twopenn'th on the Type 278 height-finding radar controversy. I agree that it makes sense that it wouldn't just rotate all the time and would be specifically pointed at targets, however, there's film that proves otherwise. If you look at this Pathť News video on Youtube of HMS Glamorgan, you can quite clearly see the 278 rotating continuously through 360 degrees. Now whether it did that all the time, or whether it sometimes stopped to height-find a target I couldn't say.

The video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7sv9ODO-YU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7sv9ODO-YU)
If the link doesn't work for some reason, the exact title is: HMS Glamorgan - Computer Ship Of The Future (1967)

The 278 bits start at about the 4 minute mark, but the whole thing's only 7 minutes long and hilariously dated so watch the whole thing for a laugh!

Good luck with the Tiger build!  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 17, 2020, 08:33:59 pm
Same radar different mounts for two totally different ships, the data and info I have passed on comes from the guys who served on Tiger


Bob



HI Bob well ok how do you think I should model it ?  no disrespect to you intended as you know more about the ship  than me remember im just the modeler an I was postin my build on another forum an an bloke comes onto my tiger thread sayin ive got all my bridge S/S to far forward an I told him that its right by the plans an he also said that ive got the armour plate wrong as well so from what ive been told tiger was in the ship yard a long time bein built so maybe they made changes to the ship over the time of the build  an nice to see you Bob ATB STAY SAFE  Chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 18, 2020, 09:29:34 am
HI all a small update on where the model is now an whats happening on her
AS we have had good warm wheather I have took her out to the garage an sprayed her overall grey primer to show up all the  little holes an cracks where I have joined the deck to the hull
a couple of shots at different angles
https://ibb.co/XbmrGwH (https://ibb.co/XbmrGwH)
 
 

(https://i.ibb.co/7X7d09h/IMG-5163.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 18, 2020, 09:31:12 am
https://ibb.co/GM2d4XZ (https://ibb.co/GM2d4XZ)
 
 (https://i.ibb.co/94TpkJx/IMG-5164.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 18, 2020, 09:37:30 am
An now a pic of both sections sprayed in grey primer for the bow section again to show any imperfections in the hull  as when my filler turns up by postie I can get on an get the hull nice an level  an sorry about the bad pic as I dint think about the light from the window
https://ibb.co/RbWK2Qk (https://ibb.co/RbWK2Qk)
 
 



(https://i.ibb.co/kBFTKqs/IMG-5168.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 18, 2020, 09:41:57 am
AN these turned up by postie yesterday an they are the mini led strip lights for the hanger that im now building an the 9v batt plug will be cut off an the leds will be wired into the ships wirein
https://ibb.co/gvn87PF (https://ibb.co/gvn87PF)
 
 



(https://i.ibb.co/tZd6hxP/IMG-5167.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 18, 2020, 09:47:05 am
AN lit up but to me they look to bright so I will fit a unit in to cut down the power from 9v down to say 7.5 v an see how that looks if still to bright then turn down the power a bit more to say 6v until im happy with the brightness in the hanger bay
https://ibb.co/NnqfxQK (https://ibb.co/NnqfxQK)
 
 

(https://i.ibb.co/2YrRqmd/IMG-5166.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 18, 2020, 09:51:11 am
AN this is the unit that will do it an its a car 12v power converter  that fits in the car cigar lighter socket
an this unit will be cut down to a smaller size as most of it I don't need
https://ibb.co/3FVnQ5F (https://ibb.co/3FVnQ5F) 
well that's it for now
 Chris  :-))
 
 (https://i.ibb.co/gWQxhbW/IMG-5169.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: JimG on April 18, 2020, 10:07:59 am
Dimming LEDs by reducing the voltage does not work well. You might find they stop working as they go below the minimum voltage before the brightness drops enough. Dimming LEDs usually uses a pulsed power supply (why you often see them flicker with a digital video). Possibly a forward only ESC could be used for this job, it would only need to be a low current one.
Jim
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 18, 2020, 10:31:17 am
Dimming LEDs by reducing the voltage does not work well. You might find they stop working as they go below the minimum voltage before the brightness drops enough. Dimming LEDs usually uses a pulsed power supply (why you often see them flicker with a digital video). Possibly a forward only ESC could be used for this job, it would only need to be a low current one.
Jim



HI Jim many thanks for that info on the leds  but i'll give it a try first an if you are right then i'll do like you say or fit a  heavy    resistor  to lower the brightness cheers
chris  ATB   stay safe
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Weaver on April 18, 2020, 11:01:32 am
Same radar different mounts for two totally different ships, the data and info I have passed on comes from the guys who served on Tiger


Bob


Here's a video of a Harrier taking off from Blake, where you can see the 278 rotating through 360 deg:

https://imgur.com/gallery/HyT39TM (https://imgur.com/gallery/HyT39TM)

The link to the video came from this site, which has a great article on the Tigers, complete with lots of big, clear photos (if you download them):

https://www.navalanalyses.com/2016/08/warships-of-past-tiger-class-cruisers.html (https://www.navalanalyses.com/2016/08/warships-of-past-tiger-class-cruisers.html)


Doing a bit of reading, it seems that the 278 was a modernised version of the 277Q, which dated back to WWII, with new components to improve reliability, but working in the same way. 277 (of which 277Q was an update) was primarily an air/sea-search radar, which only started to be used in a height-finding role later. Air/sea search radars scan, by rotating 360 deg, by definition. There's a scan rate in the specs: 16rpm max. A system to stop the scanning had to be added later in order to do height finding.

There aren't many good online sources for info about radar unfortunately (at least that I've found). Wikipedia doesn't have an article on the 278, but it does have a long and well-sourced article on the 277 here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_277_radar#P_and_Q_models (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_277_radar#P_and_Q_models)

From that article:

"The Type 277 was a surface search (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_search_radar) and secondary aircraft early warning radar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_warning_radar) used by the Royal Navy and allies during World War II and the post-war era."

"The 277 used a 500 kW magnetron...   and added a plan-position indicator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan-position_indicator) (PPI) system with several remote displays."

"The resulting system, Type 277Q, arrived too late for Project Bubbly and did not see service until the post-war era. In tests aboard HMS Illustrious in March 1947, 277Q provided reliable detection in the TI role out to 85 miles (137 km) and heightfinding to 55 miles (89 km), dramatic improvements on the 293."


The 'TI role' mentioned is Target Indication, which basically means 'air-search with enough precision to point weapon systems'.

Why would a pure height-finder use a PPI (Plan Position Indicator: the classic 'radar scope'), which is designed to show a map-style 360 deg view around the ship?


Speculation: (I have no evidence for this, it just makes sense to me) The Type 278 was mostly used as a height-finder on Tigers, so it was usually stationary. However, at times when they didn't want to use the big Type 965, for instance when close to other ships or helicopters whose crews they didn't want to fry, they swtiched the 965 off and used the 278 in it's search mode instead. I know the 965 is rotating in the video, but just because it's turning, doesn't mean it's transmitting: the Type 1010 IFF (Identify Friend or Foe) transponder is mounted on top of the 965 aerial, so that'd be reason enough to keep it going round.


ANYWAY, taking my 'obsessive geek' hat off for a minute, the object of the exercise here is to help Chris build his model, and the good news, as far as I can see, is that there isn't a wrong way to build the 278! Rotating, still, turning back and forth at random, it's all good. :-))


Stay Safe,

-Harold
 
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 18, 2020, 11:40:21 am
ANYWAY
Taking my 'obsessive geek' hat off for a minute, the object of the exercise here is to help Chris build his model, and the good news, as far as I can see, is that there isn't a wrong way to build the 278! Rotating, still, turning back and forth at random, it's all good.
Stay Safe,

-Harold



OH WELL DONE Harold  :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) ok2 MANY THANKS  FOR YOUR HELP an that's how im gonna build it then as at the moment im now starting to build the hanger an as you have found out about that 278 radar  I will plan the build accordingly so I can fit in all the  crown gears on the main radar sharft to  to turn the 278 an to fit in the main mast  MANY MANY THANKS for that an all the pics an info which will be of immense help  an for takein the time to find out all this  :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
ATB   Chris   stay safe
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on April 18, 2020, 03:10:06 pm

Sorry if I was too flippant when noticing your wife's unhappy expression. Obviously I wasn't aware of her cancer, but still, I hope she is winning the good fight with it.


The progress is astounding and looks really good.

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 18, 2020, 05:36:49 pm
Sorry if I was too flippant when noticing your wife's unhappy expression. Obviously I wasn't aware of her cancer, but still, I hope she is winning the good fight with it.


The progress is astounding and looks really good.

Quote


That's ok an yes she is a fighter an we hope her cancer is in remission but she says she is takein it a day at a time an she has good days an bad so just got to keep on ploddin on as they say. An thank you for your kind remarks of my tiger build yes she is slowly comin on still about 4yrs building to do so im happy
ATB Chris an jen

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on April 18, 2020, 09:25:08 pm

It looks more like ossicilating than full rotation which ties in with what I was told by rx tiger/Blake rechs


Here's a video of a Harrier taking off from Blake, where you can see the 278 rotating through 360 deg:

https://imgur.com/gallery/HyT39TM (https://imgur.com/gallery/HyT39TM)

The link to the video came from this site, which has a great article on the Tigers, complete with lots of big, clear photos (if you download them):

https://www.navalanalyses.com/2016/08/warships-of-past-tiger-class-cruisers.html (https://www.navalanalyses.com/2016/08/warships-of-past-tiger-class-cruisers.html)


Doing a bit of reading, it seems that the 278 was a modernised version of the 277Q, which dated back to WWII, with new components to improve reliability, but working in the same way. 277 (of which 277Q was an update) was primarily an air/sea-search radar, which only started to be used in a height-finding role later. Air/sea search radars scan, by rotating 360 deg, by definition. There's a scan rate in the specs: 16rpm max. A system to stop the scanning had to be added later in order to do height finding.

There aren't many good online sources for info about radar unfortunately (at least that I've found). Wikipedia doesn't have an article on the 278, but it does have a long and well-sourced article on the 277 here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_277_radar#P_and_Q_models (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_277_radar#P_and_Q_models)

From that article:

"The Type 277 was a surface search (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_search_radar) and secondary aircraft early warning radar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_warning_radar) used by the Royal Navy and allies during World War II and the post-war era."

"The 277 used a 500 kW magnetron...   and added a plan-position indicator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan-position_indicator) (PPI) system with several remote displays."

"The resulting system, Type 277Q, arrived too late for Project Bubbly and did not see service until the post-war era. In tests aboard HMS Illustrious in March 1947, 277Q provided reliable detection in the TI role out to 85 miles (137 km) and heightfinding to 55 miles (89 km), dramatic improvements on the 293."


The 'TI role' mentioned is Target Indication, which basically means 'air-search with enough precision to point weapon systems'.

Why would a pure height-finder use a PPI (Plan Position Indicator: the classic 'radar scope'), which is designed to show a map-style 360 deg view around the ship?


Speculation: (I have no evidence for this, it just makes sense to me) The Type 278 was mostly used as a height-finder on Tigers, so it was usually stationary. However, at times when they didn't want to use the big Type 965, for instance when close to other ships or helicopters whose crews they didn't want to fry, they swtiched the 965 off and used the 278 in it's search mode instead. I know the 965 is rotating in the video, but just because it's turning, doesn't mean it's transmitting: the Type 1010 IFF (Identify Friend or Foe) transponder is mounted on top of the 965 aerial, so that'd be reason enough to keep it going round.


ANYWAY, taking my 'obsessive geek' hat off for a minute, the object of the exercise here is to help Chris build his model, and the good news, as far as I can see, is that there isn't a wrong way to build the 278! Rotating, still, turning back and forth at random, it's all good. :-))


Stay Safe,

-Harold
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 19, 2020, 07:10:00 am
It looks more like ossicilating than full rotation which ties in with what I was told by rx tiger/Blake rechs




HI Bob sorry no disrespect 
meant to you   but ive looked at that vid several times an the radar is revolving but once it picks up a target then it may go into the ossicilating mode so that way both ways are right .
  An many thanks to you for all the help with the photos an info you have helped me with CHEERS  :-))
ATB stay safe
chris
 
 
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on April 19, 2020, 11:28:15 pm



I don't see four years as a long time Chris. Like everyone, we have times where we can't stand seeing the model or something stumps us and we dabble with something else or real life knocks on the door and we have to poke at it with a broom handle.


I started my destroyer in 2014 and the Monitor in 2016. I have a foam plug I started in 2012 and other projects. I know we are not the only ones in this category, hobbyists are by their nature enthusiasts and hoarders of cool shiny things  :}


I wish your good lady well, a relative of mine recently got diagnosed with Cancer so understand a small bit of what you both are going through.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 20, 2020, 05:38:35 am


I don't see four years as a long time Chris. Like everyone, we have times where we can't stand seeing the model or something stumps us and we dabble with something else or real life knocks on the door and we have to poke at it with a broom handle.


I started my destroyer in 2014 and the Monitor in 2016. I have a foam plug I started in 2012 and other projects. I know we are not the only ones in this category, hobbyists are by their nature enthusiasts and hoarders of cool shiny things  :}


I wish your good lady well, a relative of mine recently got diagnosed with Cancer so understand a small bit of what you both are going through.



HI
ballastanksian  yes I love long builds so 4 yrs ain't to long  like you have said  an im enjoying  the build  an thank you for your kind comments regards the wife  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Weaver on April 20, 2020, 11:29:53 am
Just testing... ok2
(https://ibb.co/Fs0m95S)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 20, 2020, 05:52:51 pm
Just testing... ok2
(https://ibb.co/Fs0m95S)



HI Harold what are you testing ? whats there a problem ?
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Weaver on April 21, 2020, 06:50:25 am

HI Harold what are you testing ? whats there a problem ?
chris

No problem - I was just seeing if I could show you a way to get your pics to appear in the thread, but this board's configured differently to others that I post on so I can't do it 'my' way. Then it turned out that you can't delete posts on here either, so I had to put something otherwise it'd be a mysterious blank post...
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 21, 2020, 07:35:07 am
No problem - I was just seeing if I could show you a way to get your pics to appear in the thread, but this board's configured differently to others that I post on so I can't do it 'my' way. Then it turned out that you can't delete posts on here either, so I had to put something otherwise it'd be a mysterious blank post...



HI Harold many thanks for tryin  an ive treid  an others have treid to help but to no avale as I live in a low megabyte area an my pc just wont do it as it runs very slow but at least with the piclinks I can show the build pics an yes I would have been scratchin my head wonderin what you was goin to say so cheers for that an I wonder why you cant
delete any posts ? on here
ATB stay safe 
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 24, 2020, 09:15:24 pm
HELLO all update time
building that big hanger an here are the bits to make it already to be put togeather
https://ibb.co/PFr9CbB

(https://i.ibb.co/k5G9crY/IMG-5172.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 24, 2020, 09:17:58 pm
https://ibb.co/L8nVKw6

(https://i.ibb.co/8061k32/IMG-5174.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 24, 2020, 09:19:52 pm
Seaking in hanger
https://ibb.co/BghV7QJ

(https://i.ibb.co/tb0MNv6/IMG-5180.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 24, 2020, 09:21:35 pm
testin for height against the chopper
https://ibb.co/dK4VDqb

(https://i.ibb.co/SvwMB8Q/IMG-5181.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 24, 2020, 09:23:45 pm
halfbuilt chopper to see if it looks ok an to me it does
https://ibb.co/QXzDFCQ

(https://i.ibb.co/WsqVWP5/IMG-5182.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 24, 2020, 09:28:03 pm
overall view of hanger
today I built in all the front section will post them pics next update
https://ibb.co/RSsc0LG :-))
chris

(https://i.ibb.co/vBTkP2C/IMG-5185.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on April 24, 2020, 09:31:22 pm
Coming along well
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 30, 2020, 07:53:30 am
Coming along well



THANKS T888
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 02, 2020, 08:07:03 am
UPDATE
well ive built in the hanger front an built the hanger doors
https://ibb.co/Z1qFGqN

(https://i.ibb.co/VpfzJf3/IMG-5216.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 02, 2020, 08:12:44 am
an here ive just fitted in the radar motorgear box as this must be done now an I will also fit the CPT unit as its a voltage reducer to cut down the power from 12v to 5.3v for said motor
https://ibb.co/vH0zB99

(https://i.ibb.co/jTn45tt/IMG-5228.jpg)


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 02, 2020, 08:17:07 am
an back to the hanger doors to get them so they will  open an close by R/C an im gonna fit two servos under the hanger floor an so I can do it slowy ive bought this handy little gadget
too work the servos slowly
https://ibb.co/NxmyLnM

(https://i.ibb.co/31MC0Yn/IMG-5264.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 02, 2020, 08:19:10 am
pic of what ive got so far
https://ibb.co/JzLvNVW

(https://i.ibb.co/FBv592k/IMG-5231.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 02, 2020, 08:22:45 am
now getting the H-DOORS workin ive fitted in a pushrod that will pull the h -door up an down from a servo
https://ibb.co/vJs79Ct (https://ibb.co/vJs79Ct)
(https://i.ibb.co/P5T7ksS/IMG-5256.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 02, 2020, 08:24:45 am
front view to show the push rod goin down to the servo on the underside
https://ibb.co/JKMfRwc (https://ibb.co/JKMfRwc)
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/jT1cvP8/IMG-5257.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 02, 2020, 08:26:47 am
servo mounted below ready to pull the pushrod up an down on the h -door
https://ibb.co/8zyhh5n (https://ibb.co/8zyhh5n)  (https://i.ibb.co/hXGqqWx/IMG-5258.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 02, 2020, 08:29:03 am
an it works lovely up an down
https://ibb.co/tJWbjbn# (https://ibb.co/tJWbjbn#)
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/fxPC6CZ/IMG-5259.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 02, 2020, 08:30:42 am
door opens ok
https://ibb.co/8gxkk07 (https://ibb.co/8gxkk07)
 
 

(https://i.ibb.co/9H4PPNr/IMG-5260.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 02, 2020, 08:31:50 am
an now halfway to closein
https://ibb.co/5cK36Zh (https://ibb.co/5cK36Zh)
 
 

(https://i.ibb.co/DKrFtdf/IMG-5261.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 02, 2020, 08:33:16 am
 
and shut
https://ibb.co/NKnKD8J (https://ibb.co/NKnKD8J)
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/0rVr4g6/IMG-5262.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 02, 2020, 08:35:29 am
 I bought a servo morphough so that hopefully it will  open an close the doors slowly https://ibb.co/mNj1CBp (https://ibb.co/mNj1CBp)
 
 

(https://i.ibb.co/BnpdVPk/IMG-5272.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 02, 2020, 08:40:06 am
Now back to that radar motor getting this going an whoever designed the main mast well its sitting
 half on the hanger an half off so that makes it awkward to get the main radar shaft up in the front wall
https://ibb.co/fdMLrZq (https://ibb.co/fdMLrZq)
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/SwNGVH5/IMG-5273.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 02, 2020, 08:42:19 am
but its done
https://ibb.co/718jBqr (https://ibb.co/718jBqr)
 
 (https://i.ibb.co/1mh7BkR/IMG-5274.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 02, 2020, 08:47:31 am
an the radar shaft built an fitted with a square brass box section as the top mast will be able to lift off so a smaller bit of box section will be fitted to it an then able to drop in the motor shaft to turn said radars
https://ibb.co/mqS88Xy (https://ibb.co/mqS88Xy)
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/0MQttF9/IMG-5276.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 02, 2020, 08:49:34 am
an fitted in the front wall
https://ibb.co/pfQSXsg (https://ibb.co/pfQSXsg)
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/c6wjTpP/IMG-5284.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 02, 2020, 08:54:47 am
Now back to that other H-DOOR an I've had to fit in a cross member to take the second  push-rod to hold it tight so that when the door is open it wont be seen
an the wire ties will be cut off when I get the other servo fitted
https://ibb.co/5KymXsH (https://ibb.co/5KymXsH)
 
 

(https://i.ibb.co/QDRL7Yw/IMG-5285.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 02, 2020, 08:56:35 am
an it work ok
https://ibb.co/556Fv6V (https://ibb.co/556Fv6V)
 
 

(https://i.ibb.co/VvtmDt8/IMG-5287.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 02, 2020, 09:01:52 am
an just a tester pic of three Seakings fitted in the h -bay an to me to tight a fit so I will properly fit two in the h-bay an two out on the flight-deck but will see on that but that's as far as I've got on this build bye for now  :-))
chris
https://ibb.co/r47TmLG (https://ibb.co/r47TmLG)
 
 

(https://i.ibb.co/Wgxq6dW/IMG-5289.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Martin [Admin] on June 02, 2020, 05:31:41 pm
 
( Linked photos embedded into posts - Admin )   :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 02, 2020, 06:05:51 pm

OH MANY THANKS Martin its nice to see the pics cheers for doin this wish I could but my pc is  just not up to the job as I live in a very slow megabyte area  :-))
all best chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Martin [Admin] on June 02, 2020, 08:50:09 pm
 
No problem, we're loving your build.   :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 02, 2020, 10:27:34 pm

No problem, we're loving your build.   :-))



OH THANK YOU Martin  :-)) glad you likein the build i'll post more links when Ive built some more as this is gonna be a long build cheers all best to you
stay safe
chris

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: RST on June 02, 2020, 10:44:07 pm
I posted some instructions earlier in your build how to get pics showing on the forum from your hosting account.  It's just a tad different from what I thought was "normal" but once the first is done as I showed, just a copy and paste job.  If you can upload to imbb or whatever then it's no stress on mayhem account or your computer, actually it's better you have your own account as you have more control and it takes the heat off here as a forum rather then a pic hosting site which usually incurs more costs.  You can of course just post an "attachment" each post rather than a weblink?


Great build so far by the way.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on June 03, 2020, 08:11:54 pm
I love that work you have done on the hangar and think the doors working is extra special.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 03, 2020, 10:13:29 pm
I love that work you have done on the hangar and think the doors working is extra special.



HI
ballastanksian  glad you like the build an the hangar is getting kind of complex with the working doors  an thank you for your kind comments  :-)) there is still a lot to get working in the hangar like the lights an the flood light to light up the flight deck an ive also still got to make up the mainmast an get the radars built an goin so it will keep me busy for a while an thank you for lookin in on the build
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all the best chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on June 04, 2020, 10:43:32 pm
No worries Chris, its work like this and Stan's and others work that is massaging the model boating enthusiasm back into my veins.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 05, 2020, 07:11:38 am
No worries Chris, its work like this and Stan's and others work that is massaging the model boating enthusiasm back into my veins.



HI AGAIN
ballastanksian well I hope you get back into the hobby as I find its very relaxin (when things go right that is )  but this is a great hobby with this lockdown im hardly out of my model room except for tiffin when the wife cooked it that is
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chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on June 05, 2020, 08:48:36 am

I think it is partly that last push to complete a model, where the challenges are past that make a project frustrating and annoying but also rewarding when you have solved the riddle of whatever was challenging you. That and time.


I am doing railings and that isn't very challenging  {:-{
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 05, 2020, 12:36:09 pm
I think it is partly that last push to complete a model, where the challenges are past that make a project frustrating and annoying but also rewarding when you have solved the riddle of whatever was challenging you. That and time.


I am doing railings and that isn't very challenging  {:-{



HI AGAIN
=ballastanksian   it is if you make them your self as that's what I have done on my HMS NORFOLK type 23
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chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: warspite on June 05, 2020, 01:40:45 pm
Are the helicopter hanger doors roller shutters? jus wondered
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 05, 2020, 02:41:34 pm
Are the helicopter hanger doors roller shutters? jus wondered



HI
warspite yes they are on the real ship an if you look closely you can see the line across the door 's meaning to simulate the roller shutter door but each link on the doors is only about 1mm so it would be very difficult to make proper roller shutter doors hence my idea
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chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: warspite on June 05, 2020, 06:46:30 pm
I Thought it was, with time on my hands I was thinking of how to make a roller shutter door at 1/72, I have a similar helicopter hanger on a stalled rescue ship (its a cardboard prototype hull based on a castle class size hull).


I have a concept and will have a go at proving it when the current project is finished
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 05, 2020, 07:31:24 pm
I Thought it was, with time on my hands I was thinking of how to make a roller shutter door at 1/72, I have a similar helicopter hanger on a stalled rescue ship (its a cardboard prototype hull based on a castle class size hull).


I have a concept and will have a go at proving it when the current project is finished



OK
warspite  be nice to see your concept as I also had an idea of how to make one an that was usein the plasticard  with the groves goin across an usein a very fine sharp blade cut it in to strip an then gluein it to a very thin rubber backin to roll up an down on a round bar in the guide rails but I don't think its worth all the trouble much easyier my way an it opens an closes which is what I want it to do

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chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2020, 08:39:10 pm
HI ALL a few more linkpics
an here I bought a servo morph to slow down my hangar doors opening an its great an it work both servos to work both doors
https://ibb.co/cgJCqKC (https://ibb.co/cgJCqKC)


(https://i.ibb.co/mDJXprX/IMG-5303.jpghttp://)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2020, 08:41:19 pm
an here they are fixed to the hangar underside
https://ibb.co/KNgck9M (https://ibb.co/KNgck9M)


(https://i.ibb.co/yhCm18w/IMG-5293.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2020, 08:48:08 pm
An a shot of the both hangar doors open an its on its side so the servo wont hit the bench 
 https://ibb.co/2y9rGZb (https://ibb.co/2y9rGZb) :-))


(https://i.ibb.co/80Cw1Yh/IMG-5314.jpg)


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2020, 08:51:47 pm
here a pic of the second H-DOOR open with a half built seaking
https://ibb.co/cY9mJTp (https://ibb.co/cY9mJTp)
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/KKg16yQ/IMG-5290.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2020, 08:54:29 pm
an a couple of shots of her as I thought id put her togeather to see if all my efforts are payin off an im very pleased she looks great
https://ibb.co/Z85PWdQ (https://ibb.co/Z85PWdQ)
 
 (https://i.ibb.co/swnGyjT/IMG-5320.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 07, 2020, 08:55:12 pm
https://ibb.co/q97Ydz3 (https://ibb.co/q97Ydz3)
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/gwmZ3GL/IMG-5321.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on June 08, 2020, 10:13:19 pm
There's some lovely work going into that build  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 08, 2020, 10:30:49 pm
There's some lovely work going into that build  :-))



HI
ballastanksian  CHEERS for your comment on the build  :-))
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chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: raflaunches on June 08, 2020, 10:35:50 pm
Hi Chris


Excellent work, really enjoying your build and gives me inspiration for my Tiger (1/96 scale). Unfortunately my model requires some TLC but your build is stunning. :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 09, 2020, 08:28:30 am
Hi Chris


Excellent work, really enjoying your build and gives me inspiration for my Tiger (1/96 scale). Unfortunately my model requires some TLC but your build is stunning. :-))




HI
raflaunches   WOW its really nice to see another HMS TIGER on here an exscuse me for sayin but how come she needs the TLC whats she been  standin in a shed or something as my  HMS NORFOLK an HMS TIGER are all indoors  to keep them in nice condition as I have collectors wanting to buy them but ive said no but they say they are willing to wait but up to them. maybe in the future I may change my mind
But back to your model she is a beautifull model even as she is now with all the detail on her she must have been a really nice model when she was new an are you goin to give her that TLC an repenlish her up to new condition ? an may I download the picture for future reference to help me build my model  ? as on the plans it only shows so much its nothing like lookin at a real model that stands out in 3D you might say but many thanks for showin me the model
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 09, 2020, 08:35:45 am

HI again
raflaunches  any chance of seein  a couple more pics from different angles an the flight deck an I see no nav lights fitted on her as ive been told by another gent on here where they are an to me it seem a weird postion to fit them but if they were there then that's where I will fit them  an is this ship a all scratchbuilt model or a GRP HULL  ? :-))
chris :-)) 
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: raflaunches on June 09, 2020, 10:34:07 am
Hi Chris


The photo I attached to my last post makes the model look in a lot better condition than it really is unfortunately. I got the model last Saturday and I was told that when the previous modeller bought it the owner before had painted it rather heavily with paint and a brush, and stuck non standard bits to it. The last owner had tried to remove the paint but had struggled with it- I donít blame him either, I have removed paint from the superstructure and it took me three batteries and 20 coarse abrasive pads on an orbital sander to get to bare wood!
Itís all scratchbuilt and won awards in Scotland many years ago but I have had to carefully remove the surviving detail and get the paint off so it doesnít look like the picture I posted before anymore!
I have been given some pictures and Iíll have a look through them tonight of the real Tiger and Iíll let you know what I find.
Iíve tried to attach some pictures to this post but my ICloud is messing around so Iíll try tonight to upload some pictures of my model. :-))


All the best
Nick
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Capt Podge on June 09, 2020, 10:49:33 am

Hi Chris & Nick, I found this one through Google - hope it helps in your quest
https://images.app.goo.gl/Q1c8HGeNW24w8EAQ9


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 09, 2020, 12:41:30 pm

OK Nick hopein to see some pics cheers
chris  :-)) O0 :-)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 09, 2020, 12:46:36 pm
Hi Chris & Nick, I found this one through Google - hope it helps in your quest
https://images.app.goo.gl/Q1c8HGeNW24w8EAQ9 (https://images.app.goo.gl/Q1c8HGeNW24w8EAQ9)


Regards,
Ray.



AN Ray to you as well many thanks for the link as im now goin to work on tigers foremast latcework an I will have a look through your link tonight as the days go so quick as me an the missus have just cut our two big lawns an if im not carefull I wont have time to do any usefull work on tiger so up an away to the man cave to build
chris  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: raflaunches on June 09, 2020, 03:24:24 pm
Hi Chris


These are the other pictures as bought. The mast and radar metal work are absolutely stunning which was what attracted me towards the model.

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: raflaunches on June 09, 2020, 03:27:18 pm
Forgot to attach the last few :embarrassed:
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 09, 2020, 04:58:43 pm
Forgot to attach the last few :embarrassed:



HI Nick well many thanks for the quick reply an the pics are great  these will give me quite a lot of usefull info TO STUDY  :-)) as ive had to use moddelers licence on my hangar bay as my doors open an shut so ive had to raise the roof a bit to get the seaking in an out through the H-DOORS  O0 as tiger had weesex helo's on her before the seaking an the seakings are taller 


so a H-door modiforcation  was needed an yes im like you I was a
[size=0.85em] attracted to it as there was so many things that could be made to work an ive just sent off for a sound system for her from components shop anyway thanks for lookin in on the build an the great pics as on some other forums you normally might get an answer about once a month an that's why im on mayhem at least people talk back an forth which to me is what a forum is all about an hope you manage to get your tiger sorted are you goin to do a thread  ? as id be following as it would be nice to see her come back to life ATB [/size][/color]
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[size=0.85em]STAY SAFE chris[/size][/color]
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 09, 2020, 05:03:20 pm

AN Nick is it ok for me to download your pics so I can zoom in on them an study the details
?
chris ;) O0 :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: raflaunches on June 09, 2020, 05:35:05 pm
Hi Chris


Of course you can :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 09, 2020, 06:51:13 pm
Hi Chris


Of course you can :-))



OK CHEERS Nick  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on June 09, 2020, 09:06:18 pm

Chris
I assume you mean me when you say "other gent"  Not sure why you don't believe the evidence of your eyes as to location of the nav light on the 1/1 Tiger, but to refresh here it is again. should help   Nick The image of her floating is I think yours taken a long time ago at Glasgow boat club


Bob
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2020/06/09/Scan0042.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2020/06/09/Scan0048.jpg)





HI again
raflaunches  any chance of seein  a couple more pics from different angles an the flight deck an I see no nav lights fitted on her as ive been told by another gent on here where they are an to me it seem a weird postion to fit them but if they were there then that's where I will fit them  an is this ship a all scratchbuilt model or a GRP HULL  ? :-))
chris :-)) 
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on June 09, 2020, 09:25:42 pm

Just so you can see what the inside of the hangar was like and the detail on the mast


Bob(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2020/06/09/Scan0030.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2020/06/09/Scan0024.jpg)



Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: raflaunches on June 09, 2020, 09:28:59 pm
Hi Bob


Thatís definitely my Tiger, I recognise certain features from the bits I have left! The model was unfortunately ruined with a heavy handed paint finish which the previous owner had tried to undo but as Iíve found out itís really tough paint to remove- Iíve been informed that it was real ships paint!
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 09, 2020, 10:47:09 pm

HI Bob I hope I havnt offened you over this nav light business an if I have im sorry an I appolagise to you :embarrassed: but I just got the wrong end of the stick as to their postion on the ship as to me when you shew me the model pics of the ship I mistakenly thought they were right near the bottom bridge on the deck an that was where I was gonna put them but many thanks to you for showin the 1to1 pic an now I see an now ive looked on my plans they are shown on them SORRY about that but I just dint pick up on it (duh lol) as I don't mind sayin this is the most complicaited ship ive ever treid to build but she comin on
ATB stay safe chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: deadbeat on June 10, 2020, 11:50:32 am
As an aside the pictures of a ship being broken up is of Blake, and I worked on her for a very short while as an apprentice during her refit in Porstmouth where she acquired the hangar. What I found interesting is she is the only ship that I'd seen an expansion joint in the upper deck. You can see it quite clearly in the photo of Blake's upper deck, its the transverse line just before the start of the hangar structure aft of the Seacat mountings.
Boring I know to be interested in such things, good luck with the model.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 10, 2020, 12:38:26 pm
As an aside the pictures of a ship being broken up is of Blake, and I worked on her for a very short while as an apprentice during her refit in Porstmouth where she acquired the hangar. What I found interesting is she is the only ship that I'd seen an expansion joint in the upper deck. You can see it quite clearly in the photo of Blake's upper deck, its the transverse line just before the start of the hangar structure aft of the Seacat mountings.
Boring I know to be interested in such things, good luck with the model.



HI
deadbeat I DARENT look at the pic as to me its a heartbreaker but I just had a quick shufty an yes you are right its an expansion joint I never knew this that's something ive learned today an yes im gonna need plenty of luck with this model as it the hardest model ive ever built makes my  big USS NIMITZ CVN 68  aircraft carrier  in 1/144 scale seem like a walk in the park thanks for lookin in

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chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on June 10, 2020, 09:52:45 pm

Deadbeat, well aware it is Blake, got loys of scrapping, simply used for illustration purposes


Bob






As an aside the pictures of a ship being broken up is of Blake, and I worked on her for a very short while as an apprentice during her refit in Porstmouth where she acquired the hangar. What I found interesting is she is the only ship that I'd seen an expansion joint in the upper deck. You can see it quite clearly in the photo of Blake's upper deck, its the transverse line just before the start of the hangar structure aft of the Seacat mountings.
Boring I know to be interested in such things, good luck with the model.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on June 10, 2020, 09:53:35 pm

Chris
No problem


Bob




HI Bob I hope I havnt offened you over this nav light business an if I have im sorry an I appolagise to you :embarrassed: but I just got the wrong end of the stick as to their postion on the ship as to me when you shew me the model pics of the ship I mistakenly thought they were right near the bottom bridge on the deck an that was where I was gonna put them but many thanks to you for showin the 1to1 pic an now I see an now ive looked on my plans they are shown on them SORRY about that but I just dint pick up on it (duh lol) as I don't mind sayin this is the most complicaited ship ive ever treid to build but she comin on
ATB stay safe chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on June 10, 2020, 09:58:34 pm

Nick
this is what I was talking about the other day when we were talking Tigers.  Harrier trials on BLAKE, convert your to her and have something different to all those helos. :)


Bob
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2020/06/10/large_000000.jpg)


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on June 10, 2020, 10:13:59 pm

Just to give you an idea of the quarter deck layout, although again this is Snakey Blakey (her nickname) the same is for Tiger




Bob


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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 11, 2020, 10:47:29 am
Nick
this is what I was talking about the other day when we were talking Tigers.  Harrier trials on BLAKE, convert your to her and have something different to all those helos. :)


Bob
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HI Bob an Nick  yes I was shown this pic by a boaty friend about janury time as I was tryin to get my seaking helo's kits as cheap as possible an he said why not stick a harrier on the flight deck like the pic above.


 An I may do yet ok2 but what I was thinkin at the time was well I like to get things workin so with a seaking there is a lot to make work eg. workin main rortars an tail rotars 'an nav lights LED's fitted 'an landin  lights 'an interior lights. But against the harrier it can only have workin nav lights an landin lights so quite a difference there  but I may make the models both so that they can both fit the same gold pickup's  in the flightdeck so I can just swop them around an it will be more instrersting to the public to see two different macheines on the deck. ok2 ;D


 As when I had my NIMITZ in shows I had people mostly women comin back an relookin at al the detail on the ship as some women were sayin every time I look at your ship I see something different an then the questions come in a barrage an my wife jen then has to help me out as at times AS there would be severall people askin questions on something different an I went into overload so jen is my P/A to the public lol
Chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Aerodecked on June 11, 2020, 12:20:31 pm
Chris, surely you can make the instrument panel & HUD light up too  ;)
And for a real challenge... have the vectored thrust nozzles rotate  %%


Rob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 11, 2020, 01:28:05 pm
Chris, surely you can make the instrument panel & HUD light up too  ;)
And for a real challenge... have the vectored thrust nozzles rotate  %%


Rob

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OH HI Rob well that's a bit  ;D {-) lol but if the harrier was say a 1/24 scale so big enough to see I might have attempted it but I like your  ;D an it made me  {-) lol but some day someone maybe crazy enough to want to try it  O0 {-)
all best to you
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 15, 2020, 08:00:21 pm
HI ALL update
Well all wk ive been makin this not all of it just the main foremast

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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 15, 2020, 08:05:23 pm
HERE A SHOT of what ive built of the mast  so far set on 02 deck

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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 15, 2020, 08:08:32 pm
A SHOT of it against the plans an its not far out thank goodness

(https://i.ibb.co/Ph0hdJW/IMG-5332.jpg)
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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 15, 2020, 08:13:19 pm
Top view angle shot an fitted with the main radar shaft as I'm going work two  radars from one shaft


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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 15, 2020, 08:20:55 pm
 
... and I am going to work the radars from an old servo that's been made free running powered by the  CTP  that converts 12v down to 5.3 v an I realise I've got the wrong crown-gear in the mast to work the navigation radar so I had to swap it for a bigger yellow one close up of it


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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 15, 2020, 08:25:20 pm
Close up shot of some of the bits i'll need to make this work but not all still more to come


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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 15, 2020, 08:28:41 pm
IT was then looking at it that I realised id made a mistake an fitted on the top gear was wrong  >>:-( <*< %)


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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 15, 2020, 08:36:44 pm
Not thinking  >>:-( <*< I thought id need a crown gear on the top to drive the main front radar but after a bit of thought I was thinking well I   just don't know how big a gear I'll need so I fitted this gear as a try out when I've fitted the R-MOTOR


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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 15, 2020, 08:41:52 pm
An a close up shot so all these gears will need to be tested as when one gear is fitted on to another it revolves in the opposite direction so quite a bit of patience is gonna be required to get this all working right


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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on June 26, 2020, 04:37:40 pm
Hi Chris,
Novel way to have the hanger doors working.  :-))  She come a long way keep the good work up, enjoying the build.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 26, 2020, 05:44:52 pm
HI Dave  yea she is an im very pleased with her an glad you likein the build an how the hangar doors work  :-))  an i hope to fit on some more pic links tonight 
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 26, 2020, 08:52:55 pm
UPDATE TIME
WELL I've had to use a bit of modellers license on the top radar gearbox as had to cover in the gears


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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 26, 2020, 09:01:56 pm
next pic is the top radar as its raised up by an inch so i built it like that but with another small gearbox with twin gears so the radar will turn the right way


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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 26, 2020, 09:03:03 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/WWrMyGZ/IMG-5373.jpg)
https://ibb.co/DDBvCzh
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 26, 2020, 09:03:38 pm
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/nzdzk74/IMG-5374.jpg)
https://ibb.co/0h4hJC1
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 26, 2020, 09:04:15 pm
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/RpNy2cj/IMG-5375.jpg)
https://ibb.co/SXcrNBf
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 26, 2020, 09:06:10 pm
next making the Nav radar mounting
 
 
 
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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 26, 2020, 09:07:25 pm
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/7Y7vXnr/IMG-5380.jpg)
https://ibb.co/PmBxNc1
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 26, 2020, 09:09:36 pm
here choosing the gears that will work the Nav radar
 
 
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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 26, 2020, 09:11:08 pm
overall shot
 
 
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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 26, 2020, 09:11:57 pm
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/6YShqqJ/IMG-5386.jpg)
 https://ibb.co/dBv9HHJ
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 26, 2020, 09:13:51 pm
close up of the Nav radar working as i put on some grease to help the new gars settle in
 
 
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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 26, 2020, 09:16:02 pm
an here its all goin nicely both radars turnin


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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on June 26, 2020, 09:18:16 pm
Technical work. I like that mast. You have put a lot of work into that and you haven't even finished it yet.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 26, 2020, 09:21:22 pm
top veiw shot an there has got to be alot more fitted on to the mast before i can say its finished but for the moment waiting for some more brass rod off ebay an the radars are just rough balsa for the moment to see if they are goin at the right about speed an im happy with them
https://ibb.co/2tDdxwN (https://ibb.co/2tDdxwN)
chris


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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 26, 2020, 09:32:17 pm
Technical work. I like that mast. You have put a lot of work into that and you haven't even finished it yet.


HI [size=78%]ballastanksian YES ITS been a labour of love  as i love doin this type of modeling tryin to get things workin  an yes there is a heck of a lot more to fit on to this mast beforei can say done as its very complcaited  an thanks for lookin in on the thread cheers [/size]
[/size][size=78%]chris[/size]
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Martin [Admin] on June 27, 2020, 01:19:28 am
 
Images upload to posts Chris! -Martin   :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 27, 2020, 06:46:10 am

Images upload to posts Chris! -Martin   :-))


HI Martin  many thanks for uploading pics  very nice of you for taken the time to do it  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on June 27, 2020, 01:45:27 pm
Chris
I don't quite follow the large boxes you have on the mast, as they do not appear on the drawings or on images of the real ships., I assume it is poetic licence to hide the gears  included some of the RN model showing the mast set up.


Bob



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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 27, 2020, 02:55:18 pm
Chris
I don't quite follow the large boxes you have on the mast, as they do not appear on the drawings or on images of the real ships., I assume it is poetic licence to hide the gears  included some of the RN model showing the mast set up.

Bob

HI Bob  you have answered your own question as i said i was usein a bit of moddelers licence  to get these radars workin hence the gearboxs which when i get all the railings an such on they wont be so noticeable
ATB Chris

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on June 27, 2020, 07:50:16 pm
Cheers Chris
looks like there will be a world shortage of cogs and gears by time you are done, along with the rack and pinion for CVA antennae operation that I have used.


At long last we are now allowed back to sailing, been to long, but no car for at least another week  :((


Bob





Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 27, 2020, 09:17:53 pm
Cheers Chris
looks like there will be a world shortage of cogs and gears by time you are done, along with the rack and pinion for CVA antennae operation that I have used.


At long last we are now allowed back to sailing, been to long, but no car for at least another week  :((


Bob


HI AGAIN Bob  yes i think there will be a shortage   %) ;) [size=78%] but its fun tryin to get things goin on these models is'nt it an yes i know its not the correct mountin  for these radars but its the best that i can do in this scale an hope your anntenna works ok [/size]
[/size][size=78%]cris [/size]
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 27, 2020, 09:22:41 pm
AN Bob what up with your car  ? an is it officail that we can go sailin ?
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on June 28, 2020, 11:19:35 am
Re: the antennae, if you look at the latest CVA video on here you will see them in action, rack and pinion working all three in time with each other.


car is brakes will not bleed, only been three months, now trying to fix it, but a lot of that time is due to the virus, seems the abs unit is shot, hopefully back this week.


sailing, I can only talk for my club in Gloucester.. one site is still closed, the docks you can sail on our normal day which is Saturday, with no pre booking, as long as social distance is kept, very easy to do there.  Our other site is by booking a slot on sailing days, our portacabin is closed so food and drink and chairs have to be brought, limited numbers and social distancing.  Not perfect but better than nothing.


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on June 28, 2020, 06:48:54 pm
Oh, I have car troubles. I think the starter motor is failing and possibly the battery or alternator is likewise.


Mind you, the alternator has experienced five years of periodic flooding on our country lanes so I would not be surprised if this was an issue.



Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 28, 2020, 08:59:10 pm
HI Bob an ballastanksian sorry to hear of your car trobles an can only hope you can get them fixed now  :-))
chris

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on June 28, 2020, 10:33:32 pm
Chirs
So do I, especially as I have used the down time to build the carry case for CVA hull and her island,  :((


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 29, 2020, 06:53:43 am
HI Bob an ballastanksian is there no garages open nr you so you can get the cars fixed ? <:(
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on June 29, 2020, 09:07:40 am
Oh yes, I have contacted them. They might be able to pop up tis afternoon.


Anyhow, let's not hogg this fine thread with our car woes. Hows your build going? S
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 29, 2020, 10:54:57 am
Oh yes, I have contacted them. They might be able to pop up tis afternoon.


Anyhow, let's not hogg this fine thread with our car woes. Hows your build going? S


HI [size=78%]ballastanksian well the build is still underway an i cant do anymore at the moment on the front foremast as still waiting for some brass rod to come from ebay[/size] >>:-( <*< [/size][size=78%]  but this morn ive had a email from HERMES to say they will be delivering a parcel soon soon i hope thats it  so ive gone back to the rear main mast to try an an build that with both workin radars an so far ive built a fair amount of it  if i have time i'll post the pics of it tonight on here [/size] :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on June 29, 2020, 12:14:05 pm
Chris
As you are going to be doing the mainmast thought these might be of use to you


Bob



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(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2020/06/29/port-1053.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on June 29, 2020, 12:20:21 pm
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2020/06/29/port-1067.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 29, 2020, 12:44:30 pm
OH Cheers Bob for the pics  im hopein to put some pics of what ive built of it so far  on the site tonight an again ive used modelers licence as had to fit in hatches for access to the workin parts as they must be there in case anything like on the gears shaft start slippin but im tryin to keep it as origdinale as possible  AN Bob regards the funnels i know im not buildin them yet ive been lookin at them  an wondered why they have them big pipes comin out of the deck to the funnel what are these the pipes from the boilers ? as i thought they would just come up underneathe the funnel' s under the deck ?
ATB STAY SAFE
chris  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 29, 2020, 06:55:14 pm
update
HI ALL
a few more linkpics of what ive been doin on her
here ive fitted on the hanger bay roof an the brass shaft goin up is just a tester to see if this inner shaft fits ok into the main drive brass box section from the motor gearbox  an it does so it will be cut to size later
 https://ibb.co/HPftPkm
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 29, 2020, 06:57:10 pm
AN a close up shot
 
(https://i.ibb.co/Wvg6yY8/IMG-5398.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 29, 2020, 07:03:15 pm
Now here I've now cut out most of the main mast an on the right is the main radar shaft with its gears
 
(https://i.ibb.co/qkqB18c/IMG-5399.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 29, 2020, 07:09:23 pm
in this next pic I've had a think an i realize that i will need inspection hatches to check every thing is going ok as this mast will lift of for servicing
 

(https://i.ibb.co/N62cBBG/IMG-5400.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 29, 2020, 07:11:02 pm
now starting to glue the mast together an inspection hatch in now fitted in on its hinges to open an close
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/c60DtQL/IMG-5401.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 29, 2020, 07:15:06 pm
an its slowly coming together
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/GTKcw9z/IMG-5402.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 29, 2020, 07:21:09 pm
an the mast is together an the main radar shaft is just laid on the plans to see if ive got it right an i have  an i'll just say in case anyone notices it but on the shaft the yellow crown gear has got to go on upside down so the radar will rotate in the right way  in the next updates it will be all put together hopefully unless a problem but so far as i can see no prob
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/hRKTxby/IMG-5403.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on July 02, 2020, 10:30:41 am
Chris
In answer to your question on the large pipes alongside tiger class, it seems they are uptake/down takes and also incorporate emergency vents.
Hat to wait for answers from the guys.


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 02, 2020, 11:19:04 pm
Chris
In answer to your question on the large pipes alongside tiger class, it seems they are uptake/down takes and also incorporate emergency vents.
Hat to wait for answers from the guys.


Bob


MANY THANKS Bob for your answer on funnel pipes on tiger cheers
chris :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on July 03, 2020, 10:38:16 pm
I suppose give her original laying down date, she still had a lot of old tech in her. Wat with those radar arrays, that will be a brilliant mast set up. All that mesh!
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 04, 2020, 06:44:00 am

I suppose give her original laying down date, she still had a lot of old tech in her. Wat with those radar arrays, that will be a brilliant mast set up. All that mesh!


HI [size=78%]ballastanksian YES im lookin forward to makeing  an fitting on her all her radars but this will not happen till nr the end of the build to avoid damage to the radars scanners as you say all that mesh especially the main search radars an that a while away but im really enjoyin the build [/size][/size]especially with this lockdown an i must say the months since it started for me anyway have flown through as this is such an intresting ship to build an to try an get some items to work mini engineerin
[/size]ATB an thanks for lookin in on the build
[/size]chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 04, 2020, 06:50:33 am
HI again [size=0px]ballastanksian sorry about how the last blog went with big letters an then small but im havin trouble with this damm pc it keeps alterin all that i type in [/size] >>:-( <*< it all started with the last lot of updates
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: derekwarner on July 04, 2020, 10:42:35 am
....so frogram3 says ....."havin trouble with this damm pc[size=0px]" [/size]               

No, not your PC......I believe this issue is some form of instability with a software architectural glitch ......you like many have only experienced this since an <*< upgrade some time back

You will see [size=0px]"[/size] in my message...I did not type this script....... :kiss:

Derek
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 04, 2020, 01:18:07 pm
HI Derek if not this pc then its bloomin ole sky connection then as its keep sayin you are not connected to the web  an this happens a lot ive tried complainin but all i got from them was they put up my subs by a fair amount when my contrack is up im givin them the ole heave ho  >>:-( <*<
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 08, 2020, 09:25:50 am
HI Bob im havin trouble tryin to sort out what the super struckure is like between the rear funnel an the front of the rear main mast as on my plans there are so many lines its difficult to see whats what so have you by any chance got some photo's of this area that you can post for me if possible ?  many thanks if you can cheers an hope you are well
chris :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on July 08, 2020, 09:54:11 am
Chris
Again from MoD model, hope this clarifies, its not to difficult once you see it. note how close the radar is to the mainmast.


Bob



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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 08, 2020, 04:59:41 pm
OH Cheers Bob an many thanks you have done your self proud just the pics i wanted youre a very nice guy CHEERS an yes i see the radar but im thinkin about it AN WE HOPE YOU AN YOUR WIFE ARE OK  :-))
CHRIS
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: derekwarner on July 09, 2020, 02:07:17 am
Oh dear........a GWS20 Seacat Launcher.... {-)  ....terrible units to maintain......no spares.....bad documentation  :((  ....poor reliability


Their best chance of colliding with something was a large fish when the rockets motor ran out of puff  :o  ....or burnt a hole in the deck if a Missile did not release

Derek
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 09, 2020, 06:23:57 am
HI ALL well the main mast is built apart from fitting on the cross members on the mast but will fit them at a later date.So next im gonna build some more S/S an probably the funnels  from the pics that Bob has very kindly posted for me what a nice gent he is cheers  :-))
Chris
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/wJJj06G/IMG-5423.jpg)

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 09, 2020, 06:40:10 am
AN in the main mast the radar motor's  gearbox to radar shaft  started slipping as the old collet i fitted wont hold the shaft tight enough >>:-( <*<  as the tiny grub screw was damaged so i stripped out the motor (thank goodness i made all this to come apart for servicing ) an refitted a new brass collet with a good Allen grub screw an now it wont slip no more as its very tight
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/Xk303DL/IMG-5415.jpg)

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 09, 2020, 06:45:15 am
AN while I'm talking about this main mast i was looking at that big search  radar a plans shot of it
 
(https://i.ibb.co/1QvxJT9/IMG-5424.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 09, 2020, 06:51:35 am
I thought its gonna be very difficult to build so i contacted fleetscale for a p/e one an i was very lucky to get his last one so im a happy chap it came by postie yesterday so hopefully it should set the model off when ive built it
 
(https://i.ibb.co/wd04j9S/IMG-5418.jpg)



Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: derekwarner on July 09, 2020, 07:09:21 am
This will be superb detail for the Search Radar.........will it be painted?, or chemically blackened to maintain the delicate structure?


Derek
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 09, 2020, 08:44:49 am
HI im just gonna spray it matt light gray like it is in some pics of the real thing as sprayin will keep the [size=0px]delicate structure? how it should be as ive sprayed radar like this before an no problem an it looks realistic[/size]
[/size][size=0px]chris[/size]
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 14, 2020, 12:48:51 pm
HI again Bob sorry to bother you again but any chance of some pics of the area around  the rear funnel as im now gonna try to build the s/s cheers if you can
an hope you are ok
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on July 14, 2020, 02:26:05 pm
hope these help Chris




Bob



(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2020/07/14/port-136.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2020/07/14/port-1044.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2020/07/14/port-1068.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on July 14, 2020, 02:46:22 pm
one more


(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2020/07/14/port-1047.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 14, 2020, 04:32:31 pm
HI Bob many thanks for the pic,s  youre a lifesaver  an a nice gent CHEERS :-))
gonna be difficult to build this part though as there is a lot of struckeres crammed in on the deck  chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on July 14, 2020, 08:25:47 pm
I wish you well with your radar build. That looks like an epic kit, which if it is designed well for easy construction, will be a work of art when completed.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on July 14, 2020, 08:51:09 pm
Chris
Once you study it there is not a lot in the way, if you make the cabin, virtually all the detail ias on that, ford you have the intakes on the rear of the aft funnel and aft of the cabin is open space till you look at main mast.  Hope this makes sense.


I have used several different manufactures of the bedstead, and they very very simple to build, just need steady hand and patience


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 14, 2020, 10:21:09 pm
I wish you well with your radar build. That looks like an epic kit, which if it is designed well for easy construction, will be a work of art when completed.



HI ballastanksian (https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=14161)   MANY thanks for your good wishes on the radar an yes it looks a bit complex but i hope i can build it an hope it looks ok to all an sorry about this bold lettering but this bloomin pc is playin up again
ATB  CHRIS
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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 14, 2020, 10:34:09 pm
Chris
Once you study it there is not a lot in the way, if you make the cabin, virtually all the detail ias on that, ford you have the intakes on the rear of the aft funnel and aft of the cabin is open space till you look at main mast.  Hope this makes sense.


I have used several different manufactures of the bedstead, and they very very simple to build, just need steady hand and patience


Bob


OK Cheers Bob ive been studyin the pics thank you an im now a lot wiser than before as on my plans the lines run every where so not to easy so a bit of guess work but hopefully the pics will help as my brand new printer is rubbish an it only  works when it wants to an the inks only make about 6 pics soi'll have to study the pics on pc an regards that radar well we'll see as i havnt got a steady hand an get the shakes at time so ive got to start off calm an hope it will come together ok
ATB chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 15, 2020, 12:19:55 pm
Chris
Once you study it there is not a lot in the way, if you make the cabin, virtually all the detail ias on that, ford you have the intakes on the rear of the aft funnel and aft of the cabin is open space till you look at main mast.  Hope this makes sense.


I have used several different manufactures of the bedstead, and they very very simple to build, just need steady hand and patience


Bob


AN HI again Bob regards that bedstead radar well i have a 1/96 scale one that im goin to practise on before i try an build the 1/72 scale one  so if i make any mistakes i'll be wiser on the the big 1/72 scale one so that will help me a lot
cheers
chris  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 24, 2020, 08:20:02 am
HI ALL now another small update on whats happening on her
here in this shot I'm built most of the main mast but now its been stripped down to have the RED  2MM A/C LED'S fitted


(https://i.ibb.co/ZT1b6Gs/IMG-5447.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 24, 2020, 08:23:17 am
here I'm now making up the yardarm i think its called for the main mast cross member
 
(https://i.ibb.co/kcV2QgF/IMG-5450.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 24, 2020, 08:25:24 am
AN DONE
 
(https://i.ibb.co/nDZw62y/IMG-5451.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 24, 2020, 08:29:37 am
IN this pic its been all filed down an cleaned up ready to be fitted into the mast
an the wires are from the RED A/C 2MM LEDS
 
(https://i.ibb.co/JyFtytS/IMG-5452.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 24, 2020, 08:35:11 am
an all the wires that are fitted will be fitted in a tube to stop them gettin tangeled up on the main radar shaft an i was nr a nervous wreck after doin this as the wires are so thin they will break very easy if pulled to hard so gently does it
 
(https://i.ibb.co/kcQ0ddR/IMG-5454.jpg)


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 24, 2020, 08:44:29 am
The tube being fitted over the  wires
 
(https://i.ibb.co/F8zrGqT/IMG-5457.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 24, 2020, 08:46:47 am
AN FITTED inside the mast
 
(https://i.ibb.co/G2DR8yx/IMG-5459.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 24, 2020, 08:49:08 am
here the cross member fitted into the mast with its supports
 
(https://i.ibb.co/F8Dy4jg/IMG-5455.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 24, 2020, 08:54:19 am
AN IT all is ok as the red anti collision lights work ok so now i can press on to the hardest part an that fitting the wires to the mini electric plugs as this mast will be able to be just unscrewed an lifted off the hangar for serveic in in the future
 
(https://i.ibb.co/NSkh309/IMG-5460.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on July 24, 2020, 03:30:16 pm
looking good Chris, wires for the anti collision run through the supports?


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 24, 2020, 05:27:26 pm
looking good Chris, wires for the anti collision run through the supports?


Bob


HI Bob thanks for your nice comments an no the wires go through the brass box section cross member the supports are solid brass AN ive been studying the deck pics up nr the hull jiont an i think i will have to use a bit of moddelers licence an not do the cut out for where the whale boat are fitted as if i cut the hull here it will weaken the hull as its right near the hull jiont so i think i will have to have the boats mounted on either side fitted on the main deck
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on July 24, 2020, 06:12:09 pm
Hi Chris,
Tigers come on  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 24, 2020, 07:20:06 pm
Hi Chris,
Tigers come on  :-))


 HI  T888 
YEA she is an im really enjoyin doin the mini eletrics an still got loads to do
AN LOVIN your build an lookin forward to more  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on July 25, 2020, 03:05:48 pm
Chris
I reckon that as the major cut is on the top deck, you should not have an issue, I guess the bit that is cut down on the hull sides is the issue


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 25, 2020, 03:51:09 pm
Chris
I reckon that as the major cut is on the top deck, you should not have an issue, I guess the bit that is cut down on the hull sides is the issue


Bob


HI Bob yes you are right as on the sides of the hull where the whale boats are on there derricks thats where the main hull spars  strenghener are an i darent cut through them as remember the hull is as thin as paper to save on wheight  so i think id better just mount the boats on the main deck top only way i can see unless i do the cuts an try an strenghten the hull after but it will add wheight an not be strong so the jurys out on that
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 08, 2020, 08:11:21 am
HI  ALL  UPDATE  well I've fitted on the A/C led's an they all work ok as I've lifted it on an off the mounting on the hangar bay to test the electric plugs uptakes  an the led's  are nice an bright as this is what the rear main mast will look like if i go sometimes night sailing
 
(https://i.ibb.co/YNRsccz/IMG-5463.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 08, 2020, 08:21:26 am
HERE the main mast now fitted to the hangar bay an its now taking power right from the hull so the 5 electric plugs that I've have fitted all work ok an its not finished by a long chalk but will finish this over the winter time now I've got the basics built as i now want to get onto an do the front foremast as I've just fitted a bit of masking tape to represent the big radar to get a little idea of if things looks about right an I'm happy with it
 
(https://i.ibb.co/yQS9GNz/IMG-5468.jpg)

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 08, 2020, 08:31:41 am
WELL here goes on the front foremast an fittin on RED 2MM led's for A/C lights an the white running lights but first some shots of the yardarms that ive fitted on the mast an its again not fininshed as more have got to go on but im running out of time here as while warm wheather i want to leave the masts for winter time work an get on sprayin the hulls in their paint  top coates in the garage  if poss but for now back to that fore mast
 
(https://i.ibb.co/m6m5CPK/IMG-5491.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 08, 2020, 08:34:00 am
TOP VIEW
 
(https://i.ibb.co/9Vj1v0s/IMG-5492.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 08, 2020, 08:35:40 am
FRONT VIEW
 
(https://i.ibb.co/ZzFvgtq/IMG-5490.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 08, 2020, 08:37:32 am
BACK VIEW with the A/C lights on
 
(https://i.ibb.co/kHGfSQR/IMG-5489.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 08, 2020, 08:40:59 am
AN again front view all lit up for when i go night sailing an all the lights will be able to be switched on an off by R/C
 
(https://i.ibb.co/S0KWGD3/IMG-5485.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 10, 2020, 06:26:42 pm
HI ALL  update time on what I've been doing on the model
an still on them masts but they are near finished now as just the actual radars to make an fit the safety railings on both masts but this will be done over winter time as I'm struggling to finish both parts of the hulls before the cold whether get here an here the masts have extra bits fitted on an painted in their top colours


(https://i.ibb.co/ypTyDFN/IMG-5564.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 10, 2020, 06:29:04 pm
top view looking down on it
 
(https://i.ibb.co/TM6jTyQ/IMG-5565.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 10, 2020, 06:31:41 pm
an lit up an i want the lights this bright so i can see which is tiger if there is other models on the pond
 
(https://i.ibb.co/7JnGFtY/IMG-5567.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 10, 2020, 06:32:50 pm
rear view shot
 
(https://i.ibb.co/HVLRgPw/IMG-5571.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 10, 2020, 06:35:08 pm
Now the rear main mast all painted up with some extra bits on front veiw
 
(https://i.ibb.co/ftW5yzv/IMG-5578.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 10, 2020, 06:38:19 pm
An a rear view shot of it an the A/C lights are powered down as they are just running from 6v but should be 12v but i could not be bothered to change the battery as i can see that the A/C lights work ok
 
(https://i.ibb.co/ftW5yzv/IMG-5578.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 10, 2020, 06:40:55 pm
An next showing is the lovely brass portholes an I've about 100 to fit an they are fitted with glass in them
 
(https://i.ibb.co/VqCy1wy/IMG-5556.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 10, 2020, 06:43:21 pm
AN a close up shot an i think these brass portholes are a work of art an it will be a shame to paint them grey but got to be done
 
(https://i.ibb.co/c63Jt29/IMG-5557.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Capt Podge on September 10, 2020, 07:43:48 pm
Fantastic work on the masts Chris, they really do look just the business.
Your attention to detail is showing through in the photo's. Very well done thus far  :-))


Regards,
Ray.

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on September 10, 2020, 08:12:27 pm
Hi Chris,
You must be pleased that all the working you have done has come out so well  :-)) :-)) :-))
 
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 10, 2020, 10:15:18 pm
Fantastic work on the masts Chris, they really do look just the business.
Your attention to detail is showing through in the photo's. Very well done thus far  :-))


Regards,
Ray.


HI Ray  many thanks for your nice comments on them masts an yes a lot of work gone into them an they still not finished but will do them over winter
time
all best
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 10, 2020, 10:19:58 pm
Hi Chris,
You must be pleased that all the working you have done has come out so well  :-)) :-)) :-))
HI yes im very pleased at how they turned out an they still not finished but over winter time they will get done but for now they will get packed away in a box till then while im now doin these portholes great fun this will be
 all best
chris



Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on September 11, 2020, 11:12:09 pm
There are some Legends of brass working here and the masts are amazing! They will really make the model Chris  :-)) :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 12, 2020, 09:44:34 am
There are some Legends of brass working here and the masts are amazing! They will really make the model Chris  :-)) :-))


HI  Ballastanksian  yes im pleased with how the masts have turned out as it was a lot of work to get all the radar 's working  an thank you for your kind comment on my efforts to build these masts  cheers
chris

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 23, 2020, 06:50:19 pm
HI Mike here is the linkpicture to see the ship HMS TIGER C20 that im building
https://ibb.co/WxH3xbX (https://ibb.co/WxH3xbX)
chris :-))  ps if you click on the picture it comes up bigger pps this ship is HMS BLAKE C99 but she is TIGER'S sister but both ships nr the same
 
(https://i.ibb.co/ngw0gHy/Tiger-class.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 30, 2020, 07:43:48 pm
HI  all  well the build continues
an as I'm hoping to have a water cooled ESC i have fitted in the hull bottom two water uptakes to go to the water pump
 
(https://i.ibb.co/gPJWf3P/IMG-5581.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 30, 2020, 07:47:50 pm
An now its time for fitting the portholes  an here the first 4 holes just drilled out
 
(https://i.ibb.co/k8TrNpq/IMG-5631.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 30, 2020, 07:49:24 pm
An the portholes fitted with their glass in
 
(https://i.ibb.co/kqpB4xc/IMG-5633.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 30, 2020, 07:54:03 pm
An i thought after doing just 4 P/H 's id have a rest an fit in the speaker for the whooper sound unit an its a 3 inch waterproof mylar speaker an it can be easily removed in case it needs replacing
 
(https://i.ibb.co/8z1gKDQ/IMG-5709.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 30, 2020, 07:55:51 pm
the whooper sound unit fits snugly in under the rear funnel mounting
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/H7Vz013/IMG-5710.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 30, 2020, 08:00:10 pm
Now back to them portholes an now they are all fitted in a ok thank goodness
an a few shots of the front section of TIGER to see if all that I'm building looks ok an i think I'm on the right track an she's big took me all my time to get her in the camera viewer
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/k8pcdrf/IMG-5713.jpg)

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 30, 2020, 08:00:51 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/M6Qsp4k/IMG-5714.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 30, 2020, 08:01:31 pm
 
 (https://i.ibb.co/dLhwSwZ/IMG-5715.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 30, 2020, 08:02:04 pm
 
(https://i.ibb.co/tL7VvCg/IMG-5716.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 30, 2020, 08:03:20 pm
AN a rear view shot
 
(https://i.ibb.co/ZNSfn03/IMG-5718.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on September 30, 2020, 08:57:10 pm
the whooper sound unit fits snugly in under the rear funnel mounting
https://ibb.co/Wn6yQqj (https://ibb.co/Wn6yQqj)


Big old chunk there Chris, must be quite old


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on September 30, 2020, 08:59:35 pm
Now back to them portholes an now they are all fitted in a ok thank goodness
an a few shots of the front section of TIGER to see if all that im building looks ok an i think im on the right track an she's big took me all my time to get her in the camera veiwer
https://ibb.co/VSdBKhZ (https://ibb.co/VSdBKhZ)


Bridge work is looking good Chris


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Martin [Admin] on October 01, 2020, 06:35:37 am
 
 
Latest Photos embedded  Chris:-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 01, 2020, 09:06:52 am

 
Latest Photos embedded  Chris:-))



HI Martin many thanks for bringing the pics up so to be seen
chris :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 01, 2020, 09:13:00 am

Big old chunk there Chris, must be quite old


Bob


HI Bob not sure what you mean ?
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 01, 2020, 09:27:28 am

Bridge work is looking good Chris


Bob


HI Again Bob yes im pleased with how the bridges turned out but still a lot to do on them as i made them both so they will lift off the main S/S  an they will also seaperate so if a bridge light fuses i can get into them to rectifiy the problem


chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on October 01, 2020, 12:03:07 pm

HI Bob not sure what you mean ?
chris


Chris I was refering to the sound unit, it looks very big, or is it the camera perspective?
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on October 01, 2020, 12:37:22 pm
Hi Chris
Coming along , looking good. Question the water intakes look like your planning on cooling some big heat load ?
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 01, 2020, 12:43:21 pm

Chris I was refering to the sound unit, it looks very big, or is it the camera perspective?


HI Bob its just how big the picture has made it as its a new sound unit from components shop an its only about 3inches by 2inches so not big at all an it sounds great hope you are gettin on ok with your carrier ?
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 01, 2020, 01:00:29 pm
Hi Chris
Coming along , looking good. Question the water intakes look like your planning on cooling some big heat load ?


HI Dave yea the water intakes are for the ESC  FUSHION power AN it goes up to 280 amps  as i will be running four motors to drive tiger  so it  might get hot hence the water intakes but now i dont know if i will use this type of ESC as im still confused about this BEC on a ESC


an  in my R/C INSTRUCTIONS it says the R/X has a BEC CONFIGERATION fitted in it but one german gent says the R/X  FROM THE GERMAN  TRANSLATION has not got a BEC   in so at the moment im still confused about all this all the guys on here treid to help me BLESS THEM but im now waiting till my freind comes over an we can talk it through on whitch way to go
all best
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on October 01, 2020, 08:27:23 pm

HI Bob its just how big the picture has made it as its a new sound unit from components shop an its only about 3inches by 2inches so not big at all an it sounds great hope you are gettin on ok with your carrier ?
chris
Ah ok, see my email, Victorious has keel cut and frame cut, waiting for new router cutter to cut the slots then assembly can start


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: colin-d on October 02, 2020, 07:19:49 am
an  in my R/C INSTRUCTIONS it says the R/X has a BEC CONFIGERATION fitted in it but one german gent says the R/X  FROM THE GERMAN  TRANSLATION has not got a BEC   in so at the moment im still confused about all this all the guys on here treid to help me BLESS THEM but im now waiting till my freind comes over an we can talk it through on whitch way to go
all best
chris


Hi Chris,
Your receiver, definitely DOES NOT have a BEC fitted...


On the lighter side of life... it's nice of you to think I'm a German Gent...  but spent close on 20 years working for the British government, and for the past 20 years for the German government...
Still have my British passport, just been renewed  ok2
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 02, 2020, 11:06:25 am

Hi Chris,
Your receiver, definitely DOES NOT have a BEC fitted...


On the lighter side of life... it's nice of you to think I'm a German Gent...  but spent close on 20 years working for the British government, and for the past 20 years for the German government...
Still have my British passport, just been renewed  ok2


HI Colin many thanks for that bit of info i know you said it before but in the english instrucktions it says battery eliminator is installed in the receiver circutry so are they sayin this is a BEC  in the R/X  an they have made a mistake THOUGH  ?
CHEERS
chris
 PS ive built over the last 30 yrs several big warships an used them on 40 meg an hardly no probs but this is the first time ive had to use this BEC system an boy have i a headacke lol

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on October 02, 2020, 12:10:34 pm
Chris so how did you power the rx? then, using the old style batt pack I assume,  BEC is not a new thing, been around for younks


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on October 02, 2020, 12:18:59 pm
Chris it says in the germa instructions basically, the rx has no power and recives it from the electronic of the bec system from esc, to prove it I disconnected my esc and guess what no power to rx.


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 02, 2020, 07:04:18 pm
Ah ok, see my email, Victorious has keel cut and frame cut, waiting for new router cutter to cut the slots then assembly can start


Bob
HI Bob lookin forward to seein it bein built
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 02, 2020, 07:07:26 pm

Hi Chris,
Your receiver, definitely DOES NOT have a BEC fitted...


On the lighter side of life... it's nice of you to think I'm a German Gent...  but spent close on 20 years working for the British government, and for the past 20 years for the German government...
Still have my British passport, just been renewed  ok2


HI Colin an many thanks to you as well about this BEC subject  :-))
chris

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 02, 2020, 07:12:49 pm
Chris so how did you power the rx? then, using the old style batt pack I assume,  BEC is not a new thing, been around for younks


Bob
Bob you assume right
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 02, 2020, 07:16:09 pm
Chris it says in the germa instructions basically, the rx has no power and recives it from the electronic of the bec system from esc, to prove it I disconnected my esc and guess what no power to rx.


Bob


AN THANK YOU as well Bob for solvein this BEC matter cheers now all i have got to do is find the right ESC with a f/s an a BEC
Chris
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on October 03, 2020, 10:43:32 am
Hi Chris,
Knock this up this morning


Just need to see how it can be moulded and how it come out of the mould


Iíll email you better photos shortly
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 03, 2020, 11:42:42 am
OK Dave cheers i'll wait to hear from you
chris :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 15, 2020, 06:29:36 pm
HI ALL well a bit more done on her an i have been busy fitting portholes an handrails in an on the S/S an the first pic up is one of these little blighters as they are only about 3mm an a heck of a job to hold as they ping from my tweezers an i have lost about 10 to the carpet monster but my wife jen said no way an she got down on her hands an knees an felt all over the carpet with her finger tips an found up about 8 of them well done her an ive found that quite a few did not have a predrilled hole in them so i had to try an fit them in my mini vice an re-drill them out >>:-( <*< 
https://ibb.co/v31zxdF (https://ibb.co/v31zxdF)


(https://i.ibb.co/Yc2j7dC/IMG-5734.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 15, 2020, 06:35:27 pm
AN here fitting in a hand rail an them little blighters were  >>:-( beggers to thread through but after doin a few i found the rod fitted better when the hole was opened up with a neddle
https://ibb.co/Jn42xKL

(https://i.ibb.co/b1ZLHPh/IMG-5738.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 15, 2020, 06:39:24 pm
HERE the hand rail fitted to the bridges an they are apart as it was easier to work on one an then the other
https://ibb.co/sKCpRPB

(https://i.ibb.co/1rMYQnS/IMG-5740.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 15, 2020, 06:40:27 pm
an bridges fitted together i;ll just be glad when i can spray them grey
https://ibb.co/2W4Ybxs (https://ibb.co/2W4Ybxs)


(https://i.ibb.co/vVnvtpQ/IMG-5739.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 15, 2020, 06:45:37 pm
front S/S where the small 3" twin gun turret will fit on when i get that far an h/r an p/h fitted an a w/t door that opens
https://ibb.co/0mBxy5L


(https://i.ibb.co/pbWSjqT/IMG-5741.jpg)


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 15, 2020, 06:47:10 pm
other side an there is only one p/h fitted here as other fitments have to go on
https://ibb.co/XzXtBmz

(https://i.ibb.co/gDyJ1sD/IMG-5742.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 15, 2020, 06:50:19 pm
NOW here the rear end of the main S/S an all the doors
https://ibb.co/8sBxt7g


(https://i.ibb.co/SyxmG3w/IMG-5747.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 15, 2020, 06:52:07 pm
an to show why all the w/t doors here on the plans is what ive got to fit on the S/S
https://ibb.co/xGgMZqN


(https://i.ibb.co/WFzcCvL/IMG-5758.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 15, 2020, 06:53:11 pm
DECK shot with a w/t door open
https://ibb.co/prmntTx


(https://i.ibb.co/YTrbzS3/IMG-5748.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 15, 2020, 06:55:39 pm
port side of the S/S an port holes galore
https://ibb.co/kMcYbjJ


(https://i.ibb.co/8X8Fvqb/IMG-5750.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 15, 2020, 06:56:35 pm
front view
https://ibb.co/Zd7VFS3


(https://i.ibb.co/xhdDBYy/IMG-5752.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 15, 2020, 06:57:30 pm
STRB side
https://ibb.co/DPJk9T2


(https://i.ibb.co/BHpjyFM/IMG-5753.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 15, 2020, 07:02:30 pm
moveing on i wanted to start to fit detail on the 02 deck behind the bridge but i had to remove the fore mast an to get to the main holding screws i had to use a very long screwdriver that went through all the mast to get to undo the main holding screws an same on the othe side a if you just click on the pic it comes up bigger so more detail can be seen
https://ibb.co/FzzzKj6 (https://ibb.co/FzzzKj6)


(https://i.ibb.co/SBBBP9N/IMG-5754.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 15, 2020, 07:12:30 pm
AN the mast ready to lift of as i dont want to brake it this an the rear mainmast will be packed away in a box till the ship is nr ready to have them fitted back on
https://ibb.co/qm5vYSd


(https://i.ibb.co/ygSrF9X/IMG-5756.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 15, 2020, 07:14:52 pm
AN now some shots of what ive got so far of the model
https://ibb.co/ryczGdR


(https://i.ibb.co/5cnSWKg/IMG-5759.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 15, 2020, 07:15:30 pm
https://ibb.co/d6pT5NJ



(https://i.ibb.co/6btMWKJ/IMG-5760.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 15, 2020, 07:16:07 pm
https://ibb.co/rpHVqCw


(https://i.ibb.co/z2ZzCy4/IMG-5762.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 15, 2020, 07:18:19 pm
an starboard side an a different porthole layout an hand rails fitted
https://ibb.co/ypyQr6f



(https://i.ibb.co/w7WzfS0/IMG-5763.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: kevin547n on October 17, 2020, 12:50:11 pm
very nice indeed, i used to love seen Tiger and Blake in the RN dockyards in the 70's i think Lion had gone by the time i joined up in 74
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 17, 2020, 08:18:58 pm
very nice indeed, i used to love seen Tiger and Blake in the RN dockyards in the 70's i think Lion had gone by the time i joined up in 74


HI Kevin you have seen tiger an blake oh you lucky devil i was not intrested then in ships as i was chasein girls an caught my wife jen but where was this portsmouth or elese where an you were in the R/N what ships you have served on ?
chris :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: kevin547n on October 18, 2020, 07:08:30 am

HI Kevin you have seen tiger an blake oh you lucky devil i was not intrested then in ships as i was chasein girls an caught my wife jen but where was this Portsmouth or elese where an you were in the R/N what ships you have served on ?
chris :-))
i joined the RN in 74 Running from Portsmouth, I did the first Commission of the Type 42 Sheffield and the last one of the GMD Fife, i may well have seen Tiger or Blake in Chatham
Went in to Subs 1980 and the rest of my career was running from Scotland, did 8 years on Odin, 2 years on Churchill  (refit - scrapped from under my feet), 8 years on Repulse taking her to scrap, took HMS Sceptre to Refit in Rosyth and i retired in 1998
9/11 happened and i went back in and did another 10 years, taking Sceptre back out of refit, and then time on Vanguard, nearly all my Sub career was in Scotland,
That pretty well cover 34 years of my life, high must have been during my time on Repulse, lows would be Vanguard, the RN had changed for the worse IMHO but being aged 50 i had my day
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 18, 2020, 11:36:13 am
WOW Kevin you certainly had a colourful navy carreea  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: kevin547n on October 19, 2020, 07:00:18 am
just been reading some of the random posts on your build, then decided to read from the start, you have put a lot of work into this, wish i had started my GMD Fife now rather than selling it partly completed, with much more time on my hands it could have done a much better job, however the new owner has now completed it
this is the fleetscale 1/72
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 19, 2020, 08:57:14 am
HI Kevin oh that looks nice HMS FIFE in 1/72 that would have been a super model if you had completed it as thats one thing ive never done an thats start a ship build an then sell it not finished
 as ive built about 7 or 8 big models now over the yrs an finished them all as for me its all im really instrested in as i dont like sport so i dont watch much tv for me its the building an creating the ship to the finish that matters as they are very exspensive aer'nt they ?
 an my wife jen also spurs me on an yes we have our lives by goin out togeather but as soon as i can im at the tiger build as in my opinion if you dont build it it wong get built will it as at the  moment im havin some probs on her an that tryin to get the things i need due to this bloomin corvid an any chance of a pic from her new owner as you say she is completed now ?
all best to you
chris ps she's a county class destroyer isnt she ?
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: kevin547n on October 19, 2020, 12:39:37 pm

i started a build log on here but never kept it updated
https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,60378.0.html (https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,60378.0.html)
here is the completed vid, posted by new owner, there are a couple photod then the video, made a nice job

https://www.facebook.com/messenger_media/?thread_id=742550491&attachment_id=651654832043262&message_id=mid.%24cAABa89Jw7ol2420Lulwsie_Eyin_ (https://www.facebook.com/messenger_media/?thread_id=742550491&attachment_id=651654832043262&message_id=mid.%24cAABa89Jw7ol2420Lulwsie_Eyin_)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 19, 2020, 03:16:00 pm
HI again Kevin oh that is a pity that you did not finish her as ive just looked through your build on her as far as you got an i think you was doin the build very good as i could not have done better myself an i cant look at the finished ship as im not on F/B as i dont like it but again to me this is a cryin shame that you dint finish her may i ask why you dint ?
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: kevin547n on October 19, 2020, 03:37:55 pm

here is another link, and lol i will answer your questions later
https://modelshipworld.com/uploads/monthly_2020_03/video-1583430167.mp4.2f4edc374e72c0ffcbd55c3006dcdbfa.mp4
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 19, 2020, 07:35:36 pm
THAT was brilliant Kevin he has lit all the ship up like i do on my ships an is the gent who built this on this site ?
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: kevin547n on October 19, 2020, 08:17:39 pm
THAT was brilliant Kevin he has lit all the ship up like i do on my ships an is the gent who built this on this site ?
chris
no he isnt, he did a lot of the electrics, but the rest of the build was completed by a friend of his, it was due to have its first sail early this year, but the plague got in the way


i belong to several sites it was on MSW and facebook he contacted me and asked if i considered selling, ii turned him down several times, but to be honest, i was building it as a static, and felt he would put her to better use, as there are not many 1/72 GMD on the display circuit and i wanted to build the St Nectan by Montfleet models, yet again my build log of that was quite poor on here


https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,61919.msg702103.html#msg702103 (https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,61919.msg702103.html#msg702103)

my log of the Victory isnt on here at all
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 19, 2020, 09:17:50 pm
OH Kevin lovley victory model is that nr 1000 pound kit as my freind nearly built it but he died of prostate cancer before he could finish it  all he had to build was the small whale boat that sit in the ships centre  :-))  how sad
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: kevin547n on October 20, 2020, 05:52:06 am
OH Kevin lovley victory model is that nr 1000 pound kit as my freind nearly built it but he died of prostate cancer before he could finish it  all he had to build was the small whale boat that sit in the ships centre  :-))  how sad
chris
sorry for the loss of your friend, yes it is the Caldercraft kit, and yes its a big outlay, but with over 3000 hours, spread over 7 years, well worth the cost, the new Amati version at 1/64 designed by Chris Watton, and at present being built by James Hatch, is going to be far better, the cost will be higher, but rumours are of it being available in 3 parts like the Amerigo Vespucci, which i also have on the go



Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: warspite on October 20, 2020, 11:23:01 am
Puts mine to shame - and its still not been tested properly  {-)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: kevin547n on October 20, 2020, 12:03:26 pm
love the way you have approached the build, an whilst we are chatting you are not getting on with it
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: warspite on October 20, 2020, 03:14:59 pm
If that's aimed at me and not chris   ;D  - she's finished and test tank tested, just not been for her maiden voyage, though the way things are going at work, I might be able to spend more time building the other projects whilst looking for a job  >:-o
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 22, 2020, 12:34:07 pm
HI ALL well a couple of months ago i treated my self to a new 2.4 gig 14 cha  R/C system for my TIGER an to have plenty of things workin on her an now ive got all the nessaseary thing ive decided to try it all out to see if it works ok an it does an what i like about the R/C is that its not meant for a plane but for trucks tanks an boats so just up my street had a little trouble with the instructions but now all sorted linkpic of the box firstly
 https://ibb.co/YRnbmyx


(https://i.ibb.co/Tvjr6bs/IMG-5560.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 22, 2020, 12:36:49 pm
An now the actual R/C an its a nice layout of the controls
https://ibb.co/gD8YDt5


(https://i.ibb.co/SKgSKVh/IMG-5559.jpg)




Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 22, 2020, 12:47:11 pm
HERE my choise of 40 amp  VIPER ESC's  X  2 with BEC's an FAILSAFE in


(https://i.ibb.co/f1P7CcN/IMG-5769.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 22, 2020, 12:53:48 pm
An how they will lay in the hull layout but i think i may change this when i do come to actually fit them in as im thinging of making it work so that if i want i can use a step switch on my R/C to just stop two motors an have just two running to double my sailing time but if its windy then i just hit the stepswitch an bring the other two motors back into play for full ahead flank speed
https://ibb.co/pd5RRxq
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 22, 2020, 12:54:45 pm
top veiw shot
https://ibb.co/C54z7Hm


(https://i.ibb.co/qpVWWd6/IMG-5767.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 22, 2020, 12:56:40 pm
an a shot of the inline fuse box one fuse for each ESC
https://ibb.co/Sv7RQpy



(https://i.ibb.co/ZT1WHCX/IMG-5766.jpg)


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 22, 2020, 01:00:09 pm
an here they all are laid out as it took me two days to make the wireing harness up as its heavy gauge wire an hard on my fingers an i was glad when i done them with all 4 motors an they are johnsons
https://ibb.co/CVBPmTv



(https://i.ibb.co/gty4mBw/IMG-5771.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 22, 2020, 01:05:21 pm
An in this last shot is of a  smaller ESC with BEC an fail safe as this one is to power the bow thruster an yes i know the real ship dint have one but as this is a big hull its gonna catch the wind an it will be a job to controll it on the wet stuff so it will be usefull
https://ibb.co/drDdJpm
ALL best chris


(https://i.ibb.co/VtT7pCw/IMG-5772.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 10, 2020, 10:10:08 am
HI ALL an update time on what ive been doin on tiger
well ive spent the last two wks just fittin on the bridge S/S some of the detail an it been a beggar as some of the photos ive looked at an its different so ive had to fit on what i think is about right firstly the main bridge S/S port side
https://ibb.co/NSqSLkp

(https://i.ibb.co/HdydrMY/IMG-5792.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 10, 2020, 10:11:37 am
https://ibb.co/5M1NL5j

(https://i.ibb.co/DV1xQ7M/IMG-5793.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 10, 2020, 10:13:53 am
An a rear shot of the main BRIDGE S/S
https://ibb.co/2WfT4Dq
 
(https://i.ibb.co/8NSHZWM/IMG-5794.jpg)


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 10, 2020, 10:18:25 am
HERE in this shot can be seen all the steps on the rear of the main S/S an i think climbin all these steps they must have been very fit an the steps are just laid on at the moment so i can spray this in its top grey paint then they will be added
https://ibb.co/fDcr8Zd

(https://i.ibb.co/MBXP8Kk/IMG-5795.jpg)


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 10, 2020, 10:19:33 am
top veiw
https://ibb.co/sKXtv2L
 
(https://i.ibb.co/bsG7gPp/IMG-5796.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 10, 2020, 10:20:16 am
https://ibb.co/nmFmykz

(https://i.ibb.co/bmkmVdz/IMG-5797.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 10, 2020, 10:21:03 am
https://ibb.co/sRn314P

(https://i.ibb.co/r0Yypht/IMG-5799.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 10, 2020, 10:21:42 am
https://ibb.co/s34HCRr
 
(https://i.ibb.co/KygwDhH/IMG-5800.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 10, 2020, 10:23:13 am
top view starboard side
https://ibb.co/5hv6pr9
 
(https://i.ibb.co/GQk0YWJ/IMG-5802.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 10, 2020, 10:25:14 am
shot of opening W/T DOORS
https://ibb.co/5Ykkk4Q

(https://i.ibb.co/CJ6668j/IMG-5804.jpg)
 
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 10, 2020, 10:26:00 am
https://ibb.co/qgND9MS

(https://i.ibb.co/2MvFP79/IMG-5805.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 10, 2020, 10:26:40 am
https://ibb.co/cNvz4Mg
 
 (https://i.ibb.co/VvNXfrj/IMG-5806.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 10, 2020, 10:27:53 am
shot of the scott domes mountings
https://ibb.co/Px6Yk8n
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/G75JmjL/IMG-5807.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 10, 2020, 10:30:13 am
https://ibb.co/RgTv4Gt
 

(https://i.ibb.co/zmVnHWC/IMG-5810.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on November 10, 2020, 05:11:53 pm
Quite a bit of progress on the detailing Chris , looking good :-)) :-))  keep up the good work
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 10, 2020, 07:41:20 pm
Quite a bit of progress on the detailing Chris , looking good :-)) :-))  keep up the good work


Cheers Dave but its not as good as i use to do but im gettin on now an when you get older you cant build in my opinion as good as i could 5yrs ago when i was detailing my norfolk oh dear only hope i can finish this ship as the time is flying through isnt
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Dreadnought on November 11, 2020, 05:57:56 am
Looks great  :-)) :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 11, 2020, 07:36:14 am
Looks great  :-)) :-))


CHEERS Dreadnought  yes im pleased at how its comin on as its helping me through this ole lockdown an i cant wait to get fitting all the eletrics but firstly ive got to build this ship an i must say this is the hardest model ive ever tried to build but it a challange  ;) %)
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Dave on November 11, 2020, 08:07:54 am
The build is looking great, I'm not sure I'd like the paint job though  ;)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 11, 2020, 01:10:22 pm
The build is looking great, I'm not sure I'd like the paint job though  ;)


HI Dave jo90
GLAD you like the build  an why wounld'nt you like the paint job eh  ?   as it will be easy to spray paint as it all comes to bits
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 25, 2020, 06:06:15 am
 
HI for my HMS TIGER I've bought a smoke unit an its very good 12v to 24v
https://ibb.co/VvXCJsZ
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/SKqm5z8/IMG-5814.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 25, 2020, 06:09:06 am
top veiw of the mini induction fan an the 24v eletronics pack
https://ibb.co/t89NGCW
 
 
(https://i.ibb.co/PwdbLCf/IMG-5816.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 25, 2020, 06:11:27 am
an here its running an its comes on an starts working in seconds very pleased with this an it runs on tap water
https://ibb.co/C6MRtyr


(https://i.ibb.co/RNBRSK5/IMG-5825.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on November 25, 2020, 09:09:33 pm
Smoking  {-) {-)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 26, 2020, 05:30:00 am
Smoking  {-) {-)


YEA it is an it should set the model off  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 24, 2020, 07:10:45 am
HI ALL UPDATE TIME
AN I NOW built the awkward shaped gun fire controll systems an i would not want to build them again in this linkpic still building them
https://ibb.co/X4XVknX


(https://i.ibb.co/thB3P0B/IMG-5859.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 24, 2020, 07:12:26 am
an built
https://ibb.co/0VgTDbh

(https://i.ibb.co/3YD2rZB/IMG-5860.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 24, 2020, 07:13:54 am
rear veiw shot
https://ibb.co/5F4qpmf
 

(https://i.ibb.co/QdQsSL1/IMG-5862.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 24, 2020, 07:18:08 am
an here some of the other bits ive built but cant fit them on the ship till its sprayed grey an the gunfire controll systems are not finished yet as again they need to be sprayed grey as well
https://ibb.co/SVqnZWz

(https://i.ibb.co/L94tsb3/IMG-5864.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 24, 2020, 07:21:41 am
an here a quick sketch of my cooling idea to cool the motors as this has now got to be done before i can progress building my big funnels
https://ibb.co/5vN3QcT

(https://i.ibb.co/d6dvNKB/IMG-5877.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 24, 2020, 07:28:56 am
an i have fitted x2 40mm fans to work as coolin  air suction fitted into the down take just behind the rear funnell an all the downtake has still to be built but not before i build my rear funnel  an i need to see how much room ive got as its nr the fans cooling downtake 
https://ibb.co/vHHqVBg


(https://i.ibb.co/Tkk2YTp/IMG-5867.jpg)

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 24, 2020, 07:30:07 am
fans grill fitted on over the fans
https://ibb.co/TBJZn8w


(https://i.ibb.co/jvqdxM8/IMG-5869.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 24, 2020, 07:32:20 am
an a shot of how it will look with some S/S FITTED on the deck
https://ibb.co/6cSydLv


(https://i.ibb.co/sp4gBz5/IMG-5870.jpg)




Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 24, 2020, 07:34:33 am
an here a shot on the real ship of where this is located as I've drawn in saying fans downtake here an arrow
https://ibb.co/2Zh0SFh


(https://i.ibb.co/cY3Kwy3/IMG-5883.jpg)

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 24, 2020, 07:37:04 am
an i will also fit a big 12v 80mm fan below deck to suck cooling air from the two 40mm fans to cool the motors directly
https://ibb.co/5GnG4WG

(https://i.ibb.co/2WsWh7W/IMG-5876.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 24, 2020, 07:37:48 am
https://ibb.co/2nDsd4Z

(https://i.ibb.co/Qb2CMwD/IMG-5880.jpg)

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 24, 2020, 07:41:12 am
but firstly i have to now build the funnels an again an awkward shape  >>:-(
like the fire control systems top view
https://ibb.co/5TtNGSX


(https://i.ibb.co/G7BKn8f/IMG-5878.jpg)





Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 24, 2020, 07:43:17 am
an front veiw
an they are big over 8 inches tall
https://ibb.co/q7rWdYy

(https://i.ibb.co/FmD0K4x/IMG-5873.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 24, 2020, 12:21:35 pm
many thanks Martin for puttin up my pics but i cant do this as im havin pc trouble as it keeps crashin had the engineer out 5 times so in the new yr i gonna ask to have it sent away to get it fixed  any way have a lovely christmas an all the best for 2021 
chris an jen
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 30, 2020, 10:06:15 am
HI ALL well ive started to build the big rear funnell as its got be built before i can do anything more on the fans cooling system as its got to be built around the rear funnel so build it is
https://ibb.co/CtgyzFv

(https://i.ibb.co/sPn42rQ/IMG-5888.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 30, 2020, 10:09:37 am
here ive had to build in the funnell in with balsa wood to stop the thin platicard covering from kingin inwards
https://ibb.co/Csz2WP2

(https://i.ibb.co/BKtNwnN/IMG-5891.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 30, 2020, 10:17:13 am
Now starting to cover the funnell
https://ibb.co/sjFBZZ8

(https://i.ibb.co/ZdhZ00q/IMG-5893.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 30, 2020, 10:19:34 am
Here the rear funnell covered an sitting on its S/S where its got to go
https://ibb.co/Yd8YPzR
 
(https://i.ibb.co/dp61jdW/IMG-5895.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 30, 2020, 10:20:51 am
An both funnell's covered
https://ibb.co/L5Vdp58

(https://i.ibb.co/WtmvKt6/IMG-5896.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 30, 2020, 10:24:30 am
AN i bought some flexi tube off ebay as its fits the funnell tube exactly as the front funnell tube wil go down an be built in to the smoke or steam unit in the hull
https://ibb.co/cxKmB5H

(https://i.ibb.co/250b92Q/IMG-5900.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 30, 2020, 10:25:28 am
https://ibb.co/4TKnp4V

(https://i.ibb.co/KqbpWVr/IMG-5903.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 30, 2020, 10:28:58 am
NOW here in this pic ive cut out the fans air cooling holes now its got to be all built in to take air down to the big fan on the deck underside to cool motors
https://ibb.co/9hPbRKM

(https://i.ibb.co/nBp7hdW/IMG-5906.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 30, 2020, 10:30:56 am
AN to finish off today a boaty freind bought me this HMS TIGER mug for xmas
https://ibb.co/n3gH5sN

(https://i.ibb.co/q0ytPM3/IMG-5901.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Martin [Admin] on December 30, 2020, 11:47:01 am
 
 You can upload your own photos direct from IMGBB, just use BBCode Full code!   ----- Not Viewer links    :-))


(https://i.ibb.co/4VX0tbT/IMGBB2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4VX0tbT)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 30, 2020, 06:57:12 pm
HI Martin im now gonna try to do what you say on the pics
/ibb.co/C6KS6K8   

Martin Sorry but as soon as i treid to up load a different code above  from imgbb the pc crashed so unless i can load linkpicks as i have been doin im sorry but i will stop posting as i dont want to upset anyone
all best chris






Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: raflaunches on December 30, 2020, 07:52:49 pm
Chris


Youíre not offending anyone with your posts- Iím more than happy to click on the links to the pictures and Iím sure many others donít mind either. I know Martin is trying his best to help you post a picture directly without the links but if it doesnít work for you carry on as you are. Iíll be following you and know others will too.
Keep up the excellent work, and Iím looking forward to your next instalment  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on December 30, 2020, 09:09:39 pm
Chris
Likewise from me, martin is only trying to make it easier for you but please carry on posting and I am sure I echo Nicks comment when lots of people will be happy to click the link


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 30, 2020, 10:21:06 pm
OK GUYS
Sorry for causeing a fuss  :embarrassed: [size=78%] an as i said i dont want to upset anyone.So if you are all happy i'll continue posting by linkpic as remember my pc is running very slowly as im liveing in a low megabyte area so thats not great an it keeps crashing as it has three times today an its still under warranty an i would like to send it back to the shop an then back to the manufactoers but in the present climate i may not get it back for months as last yr i done that an it was gone for nr six weeks an that was before all this virus hassle so im tryin to make do on it SORRY for running on but i just thought id exsplain about this [/size]
SO its  back to linkpics OK all an thanks all for havin me an you martin
ALL BEST chris  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Martin [Admin] on December 31, 2020, 11:30:27 am

How to Add a photo using IMGBB......

1. Go to https://imgbb.com (https://imgbb.com) and upload your photo / photos

2. Upload photo

3. From Embed code  drop down box....

4. Select BBCode full

5. Copy BBCode full

6. Paste from IMGBB into Mayhem ....


(https://i.ibb.co/y4YDcL5/HMS-Tiger.jpg)







Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Martin [Admin] on December 31, 2020, 12:00:00 pm
 
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Martin [Admin] on December 31, 2020, 12:09:57 pm

Hi Chris,
No one is upset, everyone is eminently enjoying this project..... it's a wonderful build and 48,500+ views testify to that.


Sorry if my post came across as a bit shouty, that was not my intention, (my pic was a bit bigger than intended and may look a bit forceful)... my apologies. 

All I was saying was, you doing everything right in uploading the photos to IMGBB, just scroll down 5 lines and it posts the picture, job done... 


'Martin, you going ion too much now, leave it!' Fair enough,  please continue posting updates Chris, we can't wait to see it finished. :-))

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 31, 2020, 02:21:42 pm
HI Martin many thanks for the utube vid an the fantastic photo of tiger when she was a all guns cruiser am may i dowload the pic to my pc please ?
an yes i intend to carry on posting on here an happy new yr to all the guys on here from jen an i ps Martin i see you up doncaster model show about 7 yrs ago as i had my big USS NIMITZ CVN 68 NUCLEAR CARRIER there in the show not sure wheather you took some pics of it but i dint get a chance to say helo to you as there was so many poeple around my carrier
chris an jen
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on December 31, 2020, 02:30:55 pm
Hi Chris,


happy new to you and Jen, keep going with the build.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 31, 2020, 06:13:32 pm
Hi Chris,


happy new to you and Jen, keep going with the build.
HI Dave yea in carryin on with the build  :-)) [size=78%]as today ive done quite a bit on that cooling system so im pleased with my days progress an a happy new yr to you an yours[/size]
all best chris an jen
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 01, 2021, 06:54:06 pm
HI ALL A NEW YEARS DAY UPDATE
as im on a roll i think as we cant go any where due to lock down  so jen has been watching her soaps an i have had another 8 hrs on tiger an im very pleased how its goin on this an just to see how the main front section now with the front funnell just laid on an its keeping up my mojo to see im getting somewhere


 https://ibb.co/C6KS6K8

(https://i.ibb.co/dt4Ht4M/IMG-5909.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 01, 2021, 06:56:12 pm
angle shot
https://ibb.co/VSPdjZ1

(https://i.ibb.co/WyYQxwh/IMG-5910.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 01, 2021, 07:03:17 pm
AN now back to the fans cooling system
an ive been working on this all day here  starting to cover the air downtakes
https://ibb.co/rtHCTpM

(https://i.ibb.co/RScxZ6P/IMG-5918.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 01, 2021, 07:06:08 pm
an in the next pics it can be seen to be covering a stage at a time but i must say this is the hardest an most angleular ship i ever treid to build
https://ibb.co/dgQmVK2


(https://i.ibb.co/Qd6DTmN/IMG-5920.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 01, 2021, 07:06:49 pm
https://ibb.co/zQkFnn6

(https://i.ibb.co/mbx0DDN/IMG-5921.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 01, 2021, 07:08:27 pm
an here the angles can clearly be seen an it difficult to build but im getting there
https://ibb.co/xMKPWX0

(https://i.ibb.co/NLgQ5tP/IMG-5922.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 01, 2021, 07:10:07 pm
an covered hopefully this will work ok
https://ibb.co/5WPGRK9

(https://i.ibb.co/4ZHKV1f/IMG-5924.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 01, 2021, 07:12:10 pm
an now here ive again just laid on the rear big  funnel as its over 8 inches tall
https://ibb.co/K2KzBQ2

(https://i.ibb.co/QPDjhqP/IMG-5926.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 01, 2021, 07:14:31 pm
top veiw looking down the funnell an as can be seen the funnell nestles in between the air downtakes
https://ibb.co/qBYhRDs


(https://i.ibb.co/cJhRNyF/IMG-5927.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 01, 2021, 07:16:34 pm
rear angle shot for the last one today as these funnels are not finished as they have a lot more to be fitted on
https://ibb.co/hZwKFBL


(https://i.ibb.co/TbdHM4Y/IMG-5928.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Chris Preston on January 02, 2021, 06:25:05 pm
Beautiful work Chris. I've been following this build since I joined Model Boat Mayhem a few years ago. Looking forward to more installments of your progress and completion, with sea trials.


Cheers,


Chris, in Victoria, BC, Canada
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 02, 2021, 10:14:40 pm
Beautiful work Chris. I've been following this build since I joined Model Boat Mayhem a few years ago. Looking forward to more installments of your progress and completion, with sea trials.


Cheers,


Chris, in Victoria, BC, Canada


HI Chris did you get my pm about the plans an email addy  ?
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 02, 2021, 10:44:00 pm
HI AGAIN Chris sorry could you resend your email addy as i tried to send one to you but it comes up saying email address is wrong
cheers
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Chris Preston on January 03, 2021, 01:22:29 am
Hi Chris,

Apologies, and yes - your PM regarding the plans from Jecobin came through.  PM Me!  (Admin)

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on January 03, 2021, 08:44:40 pm
Hey Chris, (Frogman) I am very pleased to see you are still posting up progress of your build. I think we would have been more upset if just a little bit of computer tinkering put you off keeping us abreast of your work  :}


I am pleased you have managed to master the arcane science of uploading images, and we can see the beautiful work up close. Funnels are deceptively complicated beasts. I could not believe how many pipes and stays and brackets and cages and whistles etc ships funnels have, and that is just on Destroyer funnels! I remember a fellow Mayhemist showing off his build of Richelieu a few years back, and seeing the platforms and ladders inside  %%  It might have been Dave Wooley's Russian aircraft carrier actually, but both ships funnels were major modelling projects in their own rights.


This was interesting as it shows the use of the framework on the funnel top as a spreader for a cover, and also hints at the complexities of the funnel structure.

Raising Steam: Naval Instructional Film A76 (1942) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwMRCU0olS0)


Keep up the good work Chris, and we will see loads of great progress throughout 2021  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 04, 2021, 11:43:40 am

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HI there im pleased you are likeing my tiger build :-))   an yes i will keep on showin linkpics or if martin can bring up the link to pics for me an many thanks to Martin for doin so  just got to hope my pc will keep goin
ATB chris  :-))





Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on January 06, 2021, 10:24:38 pm
Navy Gets 'tiger' (1959) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujoT_3XUp5M)


The above link is for a short video showing haw effective the 6" and 3" automatic guns on the three Tiger class cruisers were when they worked
Questions also asked about the early box art for the Airfix kit of Tiger when she was gun cruiser, as red and white badge was seen on the forrard funnel, this may have been a Squadron badge but if it was it did not remain long


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 07, 2021, 07:25:31 am
HI Bob many thanks for putting the utube tiger vid on here  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 10, 2021, 08:31:16 am
HI GUYS another small update on this big rear funnell an now its about 80per cent built but im not happy with the the funnell pipes as they are bendy drink straws as i tried to use the right size plastic pipes but the bends are to sharp an an heating up the pipes they just split or cracked so drink straws it is but hopefully they wont be seen much as there are the missle directors in front of them on the deck an i fitted some anti /collishion lights as the big funnel is out on the deck away from the rear mast so been havin fun building these now first linkpic
https://ibb.co/rp1bJWw

(https://i.ibb.co/Lg2QfGZ/IMG-5934.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 10, 2021, 08:32:09 am
https://ibb.co/dKBmRCX

(https://i.ibb.co/0Jqsx41/IMG-5941.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 10, 2021, 08:33:53 am
close up shot of strb side
https://ibb.co/KFMJjvq

(https://i.ibb.co/MMYmD0V/IMG-5942.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 10, 2021, 08:36:29 am
full shot of starb side an these pipes were some little blighters to get the right anges to glue them to the funnell
https://ibb.co/BPB92cw

(https://i.ibb.co/LP13dYv/IMG-5946.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 10, 2021, 08:37:43 am
starb angle shot
https://ibb.co/2NWhmQS

(https://i.ibb.co/m8bT1w0/IMG-5947.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: raflaunches on January 10, 2021, 08:38:30 am
Hi Chris


Fantastic as always-on your lower black straw that goes to the square vent youíve got some rings going around it- are they wire or plastic card? If itís plastic card itís incredibly fine workmanship to get it to fit so nicely.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 10, 2021, 08:39:37 am
rear shot
https://ibb.co/k9WxpB4
https://ibb.co/k9WxpB4 (https://ibb.co/k9WxpB4)


(https://i.ibb.co/TbFkZ24/IMG-5948.jpg)


(https://i.ibb.co/TbFkZ24/IMG-5948.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 10, 2021, 08:45:37 am
Hi Chris


Fantastic as always-on your lower black straw that goes to the square vent youíve got some rings going around it- are they wire or plastic card? If itís plastic card itís incredibly fine workmanship to get it to fit so nicely.


HI Nick its very thin wire just pulled arond the tube an glued should have put some on the big pipes but got ahead of my self an fitted them to the funnell but the pipe that goes straight down will unclip so i can still fit the wire around it later an thanks for lookin in
cheers
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: raflaunches on January 10, 2021, 08:51:47 am
Thanks Chris


Itís very good, because the wire looked white in colour I thought it could be plastic card. Looks brilliant- keep up the excellent work.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 10, 2021, 08:52:58 am
HERE port side angle shot an again the straight up big pipe is just clipped in so i can fit the wire rings that will teach me to get ahead of myself  >>:-( <*< but there is only about two wire rings to fit so a later job on that  :-)) 
https://ibb.co/26Svgvb
https://ibb.co/26Svgvb (https://ibb.co/26Svgvb)


(https://i.ibb.co/sPCKyKB/IMG-5949.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/sPCKyKB/IMG-5949.jpg)


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 10, 2021, 08:55:07 am
Thanks Chris


Itís very good, because the wire looked white in colour I thought it could be plastic card. Looks brilliant- keep up the excellent work.


yea will do Nick thanks for havin a look see an i hope you are well
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 10, 2021, 08:57:11 am
an fullport side shot here
https://ibb.co/kHHL8HL



(https://i.ibb.co/HFFczFc/IMG-5950.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 10, 2021, 09:03:38 am
an lastly for today the gantry platform on the funnell front an this was a little devil to fit as it was so fiddley an its only a quater of an inch wide took me three hrs to make an fit this an i got the shakes doin this so jen had to come an hold the funnell for me to fit it Aaaaaagghhh but thank goodness it went on ok so now all that needs doin is all the ladders fitting an spraying grey
https://ibb.co/7twtyRg



(https://i.ibb.co/s909365/IMG-5952.jpg)




Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 10, 2021, 09:21:37 am
NEXT UP is fitting the front funnell now this one will be the hardest as this will be a steamer from the smoke or steam unit but to get this all fitted an workin i will have to do some surgery on the main S/S as the steam pipe must fit exctact to the steam unit so when i lift off the main bridge S/S to put in the main drive batt its got to drop dead on the steam unit so the steam pipe will  have to be built in dead on for a fit OH THIS WILL BE A CHALLANGE  %)
chris :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Chris Preston on January 10, 2021, 06:35:50 pm
Excellent work chris - she's really stating to look like TIGER now.


Cheers,


Chris
In Victoria, Canada
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 10, 2021, 08:56:43 pm
Excellent work chris - she's really stating to look like TIGER now.


Cheers,


Chris
In Victoria, Canada


HI Chris   yes she comin on  but still a lot to do on her i'll be glad when i can get doin the eletrics but not yet im afraid as ive still got to fit this front steaming funnell an make it so that it all works an cheers for lookin in on the build
ATB
Chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on January 14, 2021, 03:40:45 pm
Hi Chris,
Tigers coming along nicely  :-))  be nice to see her all painted.





Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 14, 2021, 05:20:41 pm
Hi Chris,
Tigers coming along nicely  :-))  be nice to see her all painted.




HI Dave nice to hear from you an yes it will be nice to spray paint her but cant till the summer time as need warmer wheather  an im about 70  per cent built on her but still a fair bit to build 
cheers for lookin in
chris ps be nice to see your burke bill goin again  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 15, 2021, 07:29:55 am
HI ALL
ANOTHER small update as if i try an load to many linkpics at a time my pc crashes
so the first linkpic up today is an old pic showing that i built the ventilation grills with streakes plasticard to represent the vents but now i have decided to fit in the steam unit well the plasti card bottom right lower corner will have to be cut out so i can fit some real ventilation grills in
https://ibb.co/qgND9MS


(https://i.ibb.co/2MvFP79/IMG-5805.jpg)

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 15, 2021, 07:33:00 am
HERE IN this pic is the foremast radar motor an gearbox fitted in its place
https://ibb.co/sCgxnnq


(https://i.ibb.co/XDW011t/IMG-5953.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 15, 2021, 07:38:17 am
an here ive removed the radar motor gearbox so i can cut out the vent grills an yes they are now cut out ok :-))
https://ibb.co/sjx9M4D


(https://i.ibb.co/gyqZB8X/IMG-5967.jpg)




Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 15, 2021, 07:40:31 am
https://ibb.co/vhrwbyY


(https://i.ibb.co/RNMv1ry/IMG-5965.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 15, 2021, 07:47:25 am
now in the main S/S behind the vent grills there will be two x 40mm fans one will suck air in a downtake to the small fan in the steam unit to help blow out the steam as the pipe to an up the funnell will be about 7inches long an the other fan will be to cool the radar motor gearbox when in a model show as it may be running for a few hrs
https://ibb.co/nDpM6Hb


(https://i.ibb.co/64Q0r3m/IMG-5957.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 15, 2021, 07:48:53 am
close up shot of fans an cutouts
https://ibb.co/7XrsL0c


(https://i.ibb.co/Dtw0TjX/IMG-5958.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 15, 2021, 07:55:13 am
Now here ive done some major surgery with the ole dremel an dimond cutter so i can fit in the steam pipe which will connect up with the steam unit an go to the front funnell an this all must be dead on fit as the main s/s will be needed to lift on an off to fit in the main drive batt
https://ibb.co/Pt8S2jS


(https://i.ibb.co/wY1vngv/IMG-5964.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 15, 2021, 07:58:21 am
here ive been trying to bend the steam pipe into an S bend so it will go from the steam unit to the front funnel an hopefully this idea will work ok
https://ibb.co/qmJHQb2


(https://i.ibb.co/yg4zjLx/IMG-5966.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 15, 2021, 08:06:11 am
An now comes the hard part   which im doin today ive cut out the hole so i can get my hand in the main S/S to line up an cut the STEAM pipe to size so that when i fit on the S/S its should just drop right onto the the steam units steam pipe
an if you look inside the steam unit can be seen to nr line up but its not right yet an i think this is goin to be a right pig to get right but will see how it all goes
https://ibb.co/k97xHTs



(https://i.ibb.co/dLTrWvw/IMG-5962.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 15, 2021, 08:10:17 am
close up shot of the steam unit an where its all fitting in the hull an boy will i be glad when ive got this all mastered an built (phew) %) ok2 :-))


https://ibb.co/p45yqtm
ATB ALL chris



(https://i.ibb.co/nQtCpHW/IMG-5963.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on January 15, 2021, 04:10:24 pm
looking good Chris, been busy, just the hundreds of rivets to add to the funnels now {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 15, 2021, 05:58:37 pm
looking good Chris, been busy, just the hundreds of rivets to add to the funnels now {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)


Bob


 {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) HI Bob very funny  {-) an it gave me a good gigle but im no rivet counter so no way the funnels will have all their big ladders an the other main things  but then im stoppin there but a question please can you tell me what are all them ring thingys at the funnels top ? is it for the painter to hang their ropes from  to paint the funnels ?
hope you both are well
ATB Chris an jen  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on January 16, 2021, 12:52:13 pm
Glad it made you laugh, The RN model does not have them and I did not either, but there is  a 1/72 Tiger out there were the guy has put the rivets in, but in doing so has spoilt it, becaue scale wise they must be about a foot wide, if you work it out 1/72 scale rivets heads are not a very big.


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on January 17, 2021, 01:44:09 pm
Chris does this answer your question???
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 17, 2021, 09:03:44 pm
HI Dave yes it does so they are painters ring tie rings so they  can paint the funnell cheers dave for the pic very nice of you
thanks
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on January 17, 2021, 11:21:31 pm
It always amazes me how complicated funnels are! I put a link to a you tube video somewhere else on MBM showing them firing up a destroyer in ww2. This had great info on funnel details and actual uses for a few items.


Tiger continues to get better and betterer  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 18, 2021, 09:18:24 am
It always amazes me how complicated funnels are! I put a link to a you tube video somewhere else on MBM showing them firing up a destroyer in ww2. This had great info on funnel details and actual uses for a few items.


Tiger continues to get better and betterer  :-))


HI Cheers for your comment on tiger an yes im tryin to build this model to my best ability as this is my last big model i'll ever build
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 18, 2021, 07:26:57 pm
WELL HI ALL
I JUST thought id finish off the steam unit build pics today so i can move onto something eles on the ship an here is the steam unit screwed down in the hull
https://ibb.co/RT6Bh6J


(https://i.ibb.co/b5v2HvG/IMG-5982.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Chris Preston on January 18, 2021, 07:31:08 pm
Excellent progress Chris. I can't wait to see her on the water.


Cheers,


Chris - in Victoria, BC
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 18, 2021, 07:32:43 pm
AN IT WAS A BATTLE to get the funnel pipe to match up to the steam unit pipe as it had to be dead on if not the S/S wont fit down how it should do but i managed in the end


  https://ibb.co/6ypZDzs (https://ibb.co/6ypZDzs)


(https://i.ibb.co/Bf7PTbs/IMG-5986.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 18, 2021, 07:42:25 pm
Excellent progress Chris. I can't wait to see her on the water.


Cheers,


Chris - in Victoria, BC


HI Chris i wondered where you got too an you may have to wait a few yrs to see her on the wet stuff as this build is not even halfway yet but nice to hear from you Chris
ATB Chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 18, 2021, 07:45:07 pm
A shot here of the funnel pipe S bend an it was a heck of a job to get this right
https://ibb.co/cbCM4tv


(https://i.ibb.co/yhYGH5R/IMG-5987.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 18, 2021, 07:52:21 pm
But i mastered it in the end as it was so awkward as i when the S/S was on the hull i could not see what's what on the pipe postioning when my hand was in the way but here its done
https://ibb.co/7JqZFH0


(https://i.ibb.co/qMvcwz2/IMG-5988.jpg)




Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 18, 2021, 07:54:37 pm
a shot here of the funnel removed so i could glue in the steam pipe with out gluein the funnell as well
https://ibb.co/3Sw7B7P


(https://i.ibb.co/6D2mgmq/IMG-5990.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 18, 2021, 08:09:56 pm
AN now for the grand finenarlly it works ok so all that work is not in vain a few steamin pics an full steam ahead
https://ibb.co/gwRymx0


(https://i.ibb.co/wCzyBfn/IMG-5978.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 18, 2021, 08:10:47 pm
https://ibb.co/987cL7m


(https://i.ibb.co/h7SLjSx/IMG-5979.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 18, 2021, 08:12:19 pm
an that that today an im very pleased on how this model is comin on
chris
https://ibb.co/449P6BJ


(https://i.ibb.co/ZctWnyN/IMG-5981.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on January 18, 2021, 08:12:54 pm
That's an excellent out pouring !!
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 18, 2021, 08:21:26 pm
That's an excellent out pouring !!


HI YEA im very pleased at this result as that funnel tube is over 14 inches long an i dint think that small 25 mm fan would push the steam out ok
cheers for lookin in on the build
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on January 18, 2021, 08:38:08 pm
Looks good Chris :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 18, 2021, 09:15:18 pm
Looks good Chris :-))


CHEERS Dave
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 19, 2021, 07:19:53 am
AN THANK YOU Martin for bringing up my pics from the links  very nice of you
cheers
ATB   Chris :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 01, 2021, 08:46:07 pm
HI ALL just a small update today as ive been working on the hanger bay to get it all working first up the eletronics is now fitted so the servo morph works the hanger doors nice an slowly an here they are half way goin up
https://ibb.co/N2DR4rj#

(https://i.ibb.co/d4CZht2/IMG-6025.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 01, 2021, 08:52:44 pm
next the lights come on by a knock on switch fitted to a servo arm an when the servo goes back to the closed postion then the lights go out an on the hanger section her there are a lot more lights to fit to shine up the flight deck
https://ibb.co/L9bpPq6

(https://i.ibb.co/KVRyGQ7/IMG-6024.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 01, 2021, 08:57:14 pm
strenghing bars fitted an W/T door which opens an closes
https://ibb.co/ctqBFRR


(https://i.ibb.co/mtpjqdd/IMG-6033.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 01, 2021, 08:59:59 pm
AN on the hanger bay bottom ive fitted all the eletronics to work what ive got so far but if they cause to much top wheight then they can just be unscrewed an moved down into the hull
https://ibb.co/2qztsPw


(https://i.ibb.co/nrXcnfT/IMG-6035.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Chris Preston on February 02, 2021, 06:26:21 am
 :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on February 04, 2021, 03:51:42 pm
Coming along well Chris  :-))  will you be detailing the inside of the hangers ?
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 04, 2021, 06:26:29 pm
HI Dave thanks but i will put in a little detail in the hanger but i dont think its worth putting to much in as most of it wont be seen so in my opinion an i know you put in a lot of detail in your hanger on your burke an a very nice job you made of it to :-))   but not for me
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 13, 2021, 09:21:25 am
HI ALL well ive started that dreaded PHOTO ETCH 965 radar an the instructions are not brilliant an it gave me some bits that were not shown on the instructions so its guess time an here its is an its quite big nearly 4 an half inches accross
https://ibb.co/LRsCFTm


(https://i.ibb.co/W5RchrZ/IMG-6052.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 13, 2021, 09:24:46 am
next i just fitted two collets with their allen screws on a steel rod to just see where they need to be fixed to hold the radar ok on the mast
https://ibb.co/P56cM36


(https://i.ibb.co/wKzS73z/IMG-6058.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 13, 2021, 09:30:20 am
AN then before i started building said unit i fitted down selotape to the surface so as its shiny the P/E wont stick to the board an i also taped down the etch so it cant move an i fitted on the panel edges some 1mm sqaure plastic strips to glue to
https://ibb.co/3pr1Sy1


(https://i.ibb.co/c6gJ2cJ/IMG-6065.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 13, 2021, 09:35:46 am
https://ibb.co/pKYZYCg


(https://i.ibb.co/WzmFmSQ/IMG-6066.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 13, 2021, 09:38:00 am
an sprayed grey as it would be difficult to spray in side when built
https://ibb.co/VWFSv3w


(https://i.ibb.co/Z6Q8hN2/IMG-6069.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 13, 2021, 09:39:41 am
here I've now started to fit the first panel onto the faceplate
https://ibb.co/r0FRk6r

(https://i.ibb.co/H4Bf7z8/IMG-6098.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 13, 2021, 09:45:54 am
An now I've fitted no2 panel to hold the collects tight an square
https://ibb.co/3788NHc


(https://i.ibb.co/NskkjzK/IMG-6099.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Capt Podge on February 13, 2021, 09:47:16 am
an sprayed grey as it wouldbe difficult to spray in side when built
https://ibb.co/VWFSv3w (https://ibb.co/VWFSv3w)


That's good forward thinking for the painting job Chris and the pictures help explain what you're doing - great work so far.  :-))


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 13, 2021, 09:57:36 am

That's good forward thinking for the painting job Chris and the pictures help explain what you're doing - great work so far.  :-))


Regards,
Ray.


CHEERS Ray an thanks for havin a lookin an hope you are well stay safe
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on February 13, 2021, 10:04:33 am
Looks good Chris, I know what you mean ref the instructions, but John at scale warship is aware there may need some clarification update to these.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 13, 2021, 10:23:24 am
Looks good Chris, I know what you mean ref the instructions, but John at scale warship is aware there may need some clarification update to these.


HI DAVE yes they certainly do if he had fitted the fininshed pics clearly it would have been a great help but now for me its to late as ive built it to what i see on them insturctions if ive got it wrong well that a lesson learnt but at least it strong an wont brake easy so im pleased
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 13, 2021, 10:47:42 am
AN HERE all 16 panels glued down
https://ibb.co/nwCP51j


(https://i.ibb.co/9ptZC4W/IMG-6102.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 13, 2021, 10:48:37 am
an back fitted
https://ibb.co/KFjrNNs


(https://i.ibb.co/qkMr00g/IMG-6103.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 13, 2021, 10:50:16 am
AN HERE I've laid a ruler so how big it is can be seen
https://ibb.co/HgPGkM9


(https://i.ibb.co/s31sMDX/IMG-6106.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 13, 2021, 10:54:19 am
an built an fitted on the main mast
https://ibb.co/DMGQJv8


(https://i.ibb.co/QH8MgTC/IMG-6109.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 13, 2021, 10:57:48 am
Angle view
https://ibb.co/0cR8rBJ


(https://i.ibb.co/c1SMQbT/IMG-6115.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Capt Podge on February 13, 2021, 11:27:17 am
Now, that's very, very impressive Chris - fine work indeed and a credit to you and the PE producer  :-)


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 13, 2021, 02:38:34 pm
Now, that's very, very impressive Chris - fine work indeed and a credit to you and the PE producer  :-)


Regards,
Ray.


OH MANY THANKS Ray glad you like it well it took a week to build an the instructions were not great  an im not a 100 per cent happy with it but best i could do an there are a few othe little things i want to put on it but that will do for now as got to rest the ole mk one eyeballs as even with the head magnifier its was a job to see so hence the eye strain  but for now im doin the small radar on the back so it will be easyier on the ole eyes
all best  chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 27, 2021, 11:53:51 am
HI ALL  update time on what I've been doing on tiger an I've built that 278 radar
in brass an had some fun doing some soldering
https://ibb.co/zV78Ynt


(https://i.ibb.co/3mMfqrP/IMG-6117.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 27, 2021, 11:56:33 am
an its on its mounting behind the main mast
https://ibb.co/5Kb2K9t


(https://i.ibb.co/phYnhPG/IMG-6121.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 27, 2021, 11:59:02 am
AN HERE in this pic they are revolving at about the right speed from a 3v supply
https://ibb.co/5Kb2K9t


(https://i.ibb.co/phYnhPG/IMG-6121.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 27, 2021, 12:00:00 pm
https://ibb.co/FKkNhWJ


(https://i.ibb.co/7Xx8SzV/IMG-6123.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 27, 2021, 12:05:02 pm
WELL that's the radars out of the way now onto building the hello landing control bubble that's sits on the top of the hanger looking down onto the flight deck
https://ibb.co/jWqgdSx


(https://i.ibb.co/dLXGSR3/IMG-6126.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 27, 2021, 12:07:03 pm
an fitting in the light green glazing
https://ibb.co/4WbNGcJ


(https://i.ibb.co/31xhqwk/IMG-6128.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 27, 2021, 12:12:04 pm
an some 2mm leds fitted in the wiring is not great as it is thin as a human hair an it broke very easy as it was a job to get to outer plastic covering off an the wires broke an kept getting shorter so in the end i thought well they wont be seen when the units built
https://ibb.co/nL0BMfx


(https://i.ibb.co/4Vf2RMh/IMG-6139.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 27, 2021, 12:14:11 pm
some crew member fitted in the bubble
https://ibb.co/8PP497q


(https://i.ibb.co/JrrFHsV/IMG-6141.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 27, 2021, 12:15:56 pm
an a crewman now comin out
https://ibb.co/GtSgQs8

(https://i.ibb.co/yYjLFhZ/IMG-6142.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 27, 2021, 12:17:42 pm
front shot of the bubble
https://ibb.co/ccvdbxn
an that's all for now


(https://i.ibb.co/bg3nH79/IMG-6144.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Capt Podge on February 27, 2021, 01:07:36 pm
That's another nice looking bit of modelling - your ship is gonna be a stunner with all these bits and pieces going on - good work Chris  :-))


Ray.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 27, 2021, 06:27:48 pm
That's another nice looking bit of modelling - your ship is gonna be a stunner with all these bits and pieces going on - good work Chris  :-))


Ray.


HI RAY MANY THANKS for your nice comments an yea im pleased with how the build is goin an yea hopefully it will look good just got to hope my wife an i can lift it lol
thanks for lookin in on the build
ATB
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on February 28, 2021, 05:56:04 pm
Hi Chris,
With the good weather, hope you can now get out to start the painting
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 28, 2021, 08:40:43 pm
Hi Chris,
With the good weather, hope you can now get out to start the painting


HI Dave yea when its warmer as got a heck of a lot to spray gray as ive made some bits that i havnt yet shown as they are ready for the paint so roll on summer
cheers dave
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 09, 2021, 04:45:17 pm
HI ALL WELL the work is continuing on tiger build an as i cant do much i thought id make up  flood lighting for the flight deck using 3mm ulktrabright  led's an here I've just made up two to see how  compact i can make them
https://ibb.co/QHgNnpw


(https://i.ibb.co/wQkWCBm/IMG-6152.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 09, 2021, 04:49:14 pm
an here ive now made up four an drilled out a brass 2mm box section bar for the lights to be soldered to
https://ibb.co/7y2Z9j8


(https://i.ibb.co/5cBS7Gt/IMG-6153.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 09, 2021, 04:54:48 pm
an ive soldered on the four but will they work
https://ibb.co/PhW0wKm


(https://i.ibb.co/1qXj81v/IMG-6155.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 09, 2021, 04:57:06 pm
an yes they do thank goodness an the brass box section is also the negative for the lights
https://ibb.co/86xzfsK


(https://i.ibb.co/Rz6hsbv/IMG-6154.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 09, 2021, 04:58:41 pm
Now to go the whole hog an fit all eight led's
https://ibb.co/YRMhpbJ


(https://i.ibb.co/JB4H5C8/IMG-6156.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 09, 2021, 04:59:42 pm
an again yes they all work ok
https://ibb.co/vqy2bK9


(https://i.ibb.co/NCDwXHR/IMG-6161.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 09, 2021, 05:03:15 pm
an now there is another 4 more flood light fitted on the hanger back a little above the W/T DOOR IN THE PLANS an ive treid to keep to the plans but there are more wires
https://ibb.co/f8Q5CdZ


(https://i.ibb.co/WDswcv7/IMG-6157.jpg)


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 09, 2021, 05:05:18 pm
an the 4 lights made up as closely as possible an they  work ok
https://ibb.co/rdvYYhY


(https://i.ibb.co/MB9rrHr/IMG-6160.jpg)


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on March 09, 2021, 05:10:03 pm
If we put Tiger and Roosevelt on the water together at night I think we would generate enough light to light up the pond  :-)) :-)) 
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 09, 2021, 05:12:56 pm
an here ive fitted them onto the back of the hanger where they should go but its a bit of a tight fit an ive fitted  rolled up tishuse in the tubes  so that when i spray them grey the paint wont go on the leds an nearly all wires are lives an one negative for power return
https://ibb.co/NY6MLBf (https://ibb.co/NY6MLBf)


(https://i.ibb.co/C05fnG4/IMG-6162.jpg)


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 09, 2021, 05:15:23 pm
An a overall shot of how the light will be placed on the hanger bay
https://ibb.co/8r8HVk6


(https://i.ibb.co/n7kFSpz/IMG-6163.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 09, 2021, 05:37:00 pm
If we put Tiger and Roosevelt on the water together at night I think we would generate enough light to light up the pond  :-)) :-))


HAHA dave yes i reckon we would {-) %) an ive not finished yet by a long shot as want to light up tiger with floodlighting like my norfolk so still got over 100 leds to fit in the right places to flood light all the S/S an if she is goin in harms way  then a simple flick of the switch an she will be all blacked out but ive flood iit all my ships an when night sailing its as you say Dave the pond gets lit up an the ship looks real as i somtimes night sail up at sheringham pond in norfolk an the holliday makers love it an some nights its a job to try an pack up as they keep comin up an askin to see my norfolk sail all lit up an boy   talk about the camera phones all come out an some of them get their phones right down to the water level an theyve shown me afterwards that norfolk looks nr real an they get very pleased an askin questions well then it a really nice eveing
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on March 09, 2021, 10:41:35 pm
Chris
Thought the image might be of use showing the lights locations


Bob
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/03/09/port-1058.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 10, 2021, 08:41:46 am
Chris
Thought the image might be of use showing the lights locations


Bob
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/03/09/port-1058.jpg)


HI Bob cheers for the pic but its different to my plan pics as in your pic there are two W/T doors an on my plans only one W/T door an the lights on my plan
 in a different location so all i can think as this ship was such a long time building in real that the builders altered it all around an i gone by my plans but thank you all the same
ATB chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 29, 2021, 10:44:29 am
HI ALL well a few more update pics on what ive been up to on tiger an in the last pics i was getting the flightdeck hanger floodlights wired up well now here they are all fitted on the hanger top an workin an they are not all lined up properly yet but will do that later an they certainly lite up the flightdeck :-))
https://ibb.co/Vtfzf19




(https://i.ibb.co/xDxBxkL/IMG-6175.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 29, 2021, 10:54:06 am
Shot from starb showing portside floodlights lit up
https://ibb.co/Fb7dygX


(https://i.ibb.co/bgdGCzF/IMG-6176.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 29, 2021, 10:56:41 am
AN SHOT from port showing starb lites workin
https://ibb.co/rwWhgF0


(https://i.ibb.co/719DHjC/IMG-6177.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 29, 2021, 10:59:10 am
top view shot of the floodlghts brass bar as this is the negative for all 8 lights
https://ibb.co/FKmvLRy


(https://i.ibb.co/bPQhMcC/IMG-6178.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 29, 2021, 11:00:38 am
https://ibb.co/Q9drfLL


(https://i.ibb.co/rks4mYY/IMG-6180.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 29, 2021, 11:02:51 am
overall shot of the hanger bay on the rear hull section
https://ibb.co/Fz6t5jj


(https://i.ibb.co/VTV8gPP/IMG-6181.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 29, 2021, 11:05:41 am
top veiw shot of the triangle shape of the emgentcy steering con an ive yet to fit on the binical
https://ibb.co/BtmPXzD


(https://i.ibb.co/rmgtC7P/IMG-6182.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 29, 2021, 11:08:43 am
side view shot of it an it has like the controll bubble got lights fitted in in both of   them an opening doors
https://ibb.co/KWK5F1T   :-))



(https://i.ibb.co/4p1FPQh/IMG-6183.jpg)

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on March 30, 2021, 12:01:35 pm
Coming along, hope with the upcoming good weather you may be able to get out to do some spray painting  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 30, 2021, 05:58:29 pm
Coming along, hope with the upcoming good weather you may be able to get out to do some spray painting  :-))


HI Dave ive got to still finish  rubbin down the hulls  as im not really happy with it an then ive got to paint humbroll maskol in all the portholes glasses so then i can spray an im starting on this over easter wkend  as this nice wheather today was unexspected so next lot of nice wheather i'll be ready to spray hope your burke is comin on well  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:04:53 am
HI all well today's update is special  as today its exsacley 2yrs ago to day that i started the build an so i thought well ive never yet put her altogeather to see what ive got for 2yrs of labour of love. So yesterday i did it an wow it shocked me at the sheer size of it what a whopper an the plans dont do it justice


SO I DID A PHOTO SHOOT OF IT PORT AN STARBOARD AN HERE THEY ARE  :-))
https://ibb.co/kqVSBdh


(https://i.ibb.co/j39rfpL/IMG-6187.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:05:52 am
https://ibb.co/s16LrhF



(https://i.ibb.co/2MsXBwj/IMG-6190.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:06:29 am
https://ibb.co/3chcPpW



(https://i.ibb.co/sq3qXKQ/IMG-6191.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:07:15 am
https://ibb.co/0f8MGds



(https://i.ibb.co/rZT6w1d/IMG-6192.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:08:03 am
https://ibb.co/4YmY8Dz (https://ibb.co/4YmY8Dz)


AN here in this pic ive laid a 40 1nch ruler at the hull bottom to show the size of it



(https://i.ibb.co/3MrMp82/IMG-6193.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:08:55 am
https://ibb.co/48sb61p



(https://i.ibb.co/qN0HtJp/IMG-6196.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:09:37 am
https://ibb.co/KKyqVjt



(https://i.ibb.co/g4gTtM0/IMG-6197.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:10:34 am
https://ibb.co/47CKqYQ



(https://i.ibb.co/vHfVFQt/IMG-6198.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:11:19 am
https://ibb.co/HznCHxp



(https://i.ibb.co/58BkRnx/IMG-6200.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:11:53 am
https://ibb.co/NFxh0LM



(https://i.ibb.co/QJ9BW64/IMG-6201.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:12:48 am
https://ibb.co/G0QbtD7



(https://i.ibb.co/JKjMyTn/IMG-6202.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:13:35 am
https://ibb.co/x8WBfm1


(https://i.ibb.co/84qfdzr/IMG-6203.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:14:10 am
https://ibb.co/6nX1VkW


(https://i.ibb.co/K0KLRJr/IMG-6204.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:15:39 am
https://ibb.co/L1xYTD3



(https://i.ibb.co/1Tr7CYk/IMG-6205.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:17:14 am
https://ibb.co/1RwYPRY (https://ibb.co/1RwYPRY)
(https://i.ibb.co/dkzsVks/IMG-6207.jpg)


AN HERE there is a massive gap in between the two funnels as thats where a big crane will be fitted an all the ships boats will be also  be fitted as there is still so much more to be built an fitted on i rekon on another 2-3 yrs build time on this model an here every thing is just laid on but later it will all be screwed down so no warping of decks an such  :-))
chris
 
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:17:52 am
https://ibb.co/6BssHMK
(https://i.ibb.co/rsyyxjB/IMG-6208.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:18:32 am
https://ibb.co/19Pzbs4
(https://i.ibb.co/khwmM3P/IMG-6215.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:24:21 am
now starboard side pics not so good as im shooting towards the window light  >>:-( <*< %) But they are still watchable
https://ibb.co/XFTbjmT



(https://i.ibb.co/ZcCVGyC/IMG-6216.jpg)


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:25:28 am
 :embarrassed:
https://ibb.co/9g0G0j4


(https://i.ibb.co/V9G3G8C/IMG-6220.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:26:50 am
https://ibb.co/dc0w9b9


(https://i.ibb.co/FWbLvsv/IMG-6218.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:27:24 am
https://ibb.co/wQmTjKC


(https://i.ibb.co/myWmgHt/IMG-6223.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:28:03 am
https://ibb.co/D98h4rB



(https://i.ibb.co/x1fWhFn/IMG-6227.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 11:30:16 am
An last shot of that big radar as i was very pleased at how that turned out
https://ibb.co/fGBmnss


(https://i.ibb.co/3YGtMnn/IMG-6230.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Capt Podge on April 05, 2021, 12:17:14 pm
Hi Chris, you've made a great job of this build to date and you're shot of the mast (taken from down below) shows just how much work has been done to produce an accurate looking mast array. Considering the size of your model you have taken great care to add all the bits. Super job, well done thus far.  :-))


Ray.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 12:29:49 pm
Hi Chris, you've made a great job of this build to date and you're shot of the mast (taken from down below) shows just how much work has been done to produce an accurate looking mast array. Considering the size of your model you have taken great care to add all the bits. Super job, well done thus far.  :-))


Ray.


HI Ray many thanks for your nice comments an yes after 2yrs build time im really gettin into the build an more important im enjoyin it  an yesterday seeing it all together for the first time well i was a bit stunned at the size of this what a whopper but i mustant become complaceant as is its all still very fragile so untill i can screw it all down got to be carefull of how i hande  things
ATB to you AN HAPPY EASTER to you an yours
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Capt Podge on April 05, 2021, 12:43:53 pm
Cheers Chris and hope you and your family are keeping well.
Eagerly awaiting your next updates... O0


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Chris Preston on April 05, 2021, 04:33:47 pm
Outstanding work, Chris - looking forward to seeing the completed build on the water.


Cheers,


Chris Preston
Victoria, BC
Canada

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on April 05, 2021, 04:51:39 pm
Hi Chris,
Nice to see Tiger all together, itís coming along very well  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 06:27:22 pm
Cheers Chris and hope you and your family are keeping well.
Eagerly awaiting your next updates... O0


Regards,
Ray.


HI Again Ray  thank you for your good whishes  an it may be a while for anymore updates now as im not satisfied with the hull so im gonna rub it down again before then waiting for good wheather to spray in top colours  :-))
ATB Chris an jen




Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 06:37:38 pm
Outstanding work, Chris - looking forward to seeing the completed build on the water.


Cheers,


Chris Preston
Victoria, BC
Canada


AN HI Chris long time no hear from you an thanks for the nice comment on tiger an still a heck of a lot  to  make an fit on her an on the water well it will be about another 3yrs or so before that happens
ATB  to you chris ps chris have you done any modeling ?
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 06:43:10 pm
Hi Chris,
Nice to see Tiger all together, itís coming along very well  :-))


AN HI Dave cheers for your nice comments also an ive been enjoyin lookin at your burke an that nice work as well
ATB chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Chris Preston on April 05, 2021, 07:11:40 pm
Hi Chris,


Hope you and yours are doing well and surviving COVID. Yes - I'm getting some modelling done. I'm currently working on a 96th scale USS ARIZONA, a 24th scale BPB Co. 71' 6" MTB (RCN) and a 16th scale Sherman Firefly Mk Ic (Hybrid), using Tamiya's kit as a starting point (with lots of after-market for the conversion). All are for R/C. I'm also working on Airfix's new 48th scale Spitfire Mk I, and recently completed Tamiya's 1990's kit of the Spitfire Mk I, so - keeping busy modelling-wise.


Stay safe.


Cheers,


Chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2021, 07:25:11 pm
Hi Chris,


Hope you and yours are doing well and surviving COVID. Yes - I'm getting some modelling done. I'm currently working on a 96th scale USS ARIZONA, a 24th scale BPB Co. 71' 6" MTB (RCN) and a 16th scale Sherman Firefly Mk Ic (Hybrid), using Tamiya's kit as a starting point (with lots of after-market for the conversion). All are for R/C. I'm also working on Airfix's new 48th scale Spitfire Mk I, and recently completed Tamiya's 1990's kit of the Spitfire Mk I, so - keeping busy modelling-wise.


Stay safe.


Cheers,


Chris


HI Again Chris lovely to hear from you again an all that modeling are you putting any thing on here as i havnt seen anything
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Chris Preston on April 06, 2021, 12:23:47 am
Hi Chris,


Haven't made enough progress on the ARIZONA to post photos, and in any event, I still have to figure out how to transfer the photos from my computer to this site (and I don't have a 12 year old IT specialist at home to help with that). So............once I 've made some progress on both I'll be posting photos.


Hope you're doing well.


Cheers,


Chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 06, 2021, 07:31:11 am
Hi Chris,


Haven't made enough progress on the ARIZONA to post photos, and in any event, I still have to figure out how to transfer the photos from my computer to this site (and I don't have a 12 year old IT specialist at home to help with that). So............once I 've made some progress on both I'll be posting photos.


Hope you're doing well.


Cheers,


Chris


HI AGAIN Chris if you are havin trouble puttin pics on this site jion the free image hostin site im on IMGBB AS IM RUBBISH ON PC's but i can upload the pics  from my pc to IMGBB an then load the image codes onto here as thats better than none at all then the guys just have to hit the link an up comes the pics from IMGBB an its a very easy to work site an if you want to do it like i do an have probs than ask me an i'll try an help you the best i can
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 24, 2021, 05:40:30 pm
HI ALL this is a two part update on her an now i feel as if im getting somewhere on her an here i made up a gadget  to give me a straight water line on the hull but it dint work great so had to go by the ole mark one eyeball
https://ibb.co/LPXH0KH


(https://i.ibb.co/sPdzg7z/P1020528.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 24, 2021, 05:43:47 pm
tamyia maskin tape on the hull an it was a heck of a job to get it reasonabley
right but i think its now ok
https://ibb.co/58btqrq


(https://i.ibb.co/C7RNxbx/P1020531.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 24, 2021, 05:47:06 pm
red anti fowl paint covered up with newspaper so it will be kept clean when i spray the grey hull top colour  :-))
https://ibb.co/BTZpvLy


(https://i.ibb.co/nQcG4r7/P1020532.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 24, 2021, 05:49:00 pm
an the top grey all sprayed up on the hull
https://ibb.co/5vyT5pT


(https://i.ibb.co/Y8M2tn2/P1020538.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 24, 2021, 05:52:42 pm
now news paper removed an thank goodness it came up ok as this last pic for today but will post a few more over the next few day of the black water line bein painted
https://ibb.co/jDGCndw :-))


(https://i.ibb.co/7KV3sHp/P1020540.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Capt Podge on April 24, 2021, 06:11:57 pm
Great to see the hull in paint Chris - hope your boot topping goes just as well  :-)


Ray.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Chris Preston on April 24, 2021, 07:14:54 pm
Excellent work Chris - looks great. Looking forward to seeing photos of her on the water.


Cheers,


Chris,
Victoria, BC
Canada

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: RST on April 24, 2021, 07:38:47 pm
I was always taught not to use newspaper in contact with the painted surface below because the ink can bleed through but fair enough -it looks grand!
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 25, 2021, 10:03:00 am
Great to see the hull in paint Chris - hope your boot topping goes just as well  :-)


Ray.


HI Ray cheers for your good wishes on boot toppin as im painting that today an yea i feel as though im makin progress on this hull would have loved a F/G hull in 1/72 scale but they dont do one which would have saved a lot of work but onwards an upwards
ATB CHRIS
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 25, 2021, 10:06:53 am
Excellent work Chris - looks great. Looking forward to seeing photos of her on the water.


Cheers,


Chris,
Victoria, BC
Canada


AN HI Chris an thank you for your nice comments an on the water well can you wait about another 3yrs or so lol
an hope you are well ps have you found out yet how to post pics on here ?
chris

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 25, 2021, 10:12:02 am

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    I was always taught not to use newspaper in contact with the painted surface below because the ink can bleed


    HI RST YEA ive heard people say that about news print in comin through onto the paint work but in all my ships ive built ive never had that happen so i carry on
    ATB CHRIS :-))

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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: kevin547n on April 25, 2021, 01:43:44 pm



lovely to catch up on your build, boy its come on a long way, fantastic work




had a giggle when i saw your 9th March post and saw the wooden deadeyes under the led lighting, i thought to myself, one day you will be looking for them
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 25, 2021, 10:53:20 pm


lovely to catch up on your build, boy its come on a long way, fantastic work




had a giggle when i saw your 9th March post and saw the wooden deadeyes under the led lighting, i thought to myself, one day you will be looking for them


HI Kevin glad you like the build yea she has come a long way an still got further to go but today beginging to paint her black W/L so i'll see how that turns out an what was the woodendeyes ?
ATB chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: kevin547n on April 26, 2021, 11:11:17 am

HI Kevin glad you like the build yea she has come a long way an still got further to go but today beginging to paint her black W/L so i'll see how that turns out an what was the woodendeyes ?
ATB chris


you used some of these

(https://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/8503dead-eye-4-mm-18u.jpg)(https://i.ibb.co/C05fnG4/IMG-6162.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 26, 2021, 03:08:30 pm

you used some of these


OH YEA Kevin i see now what you mean yea i used them to represent loud speakers as something simlar on the plans an when the hangar is all spreyed grey so will they be  so they will blend in  :-))
[size=78%]an cheers for lookin in on the build an to be honest i dint think hardly anyone is lookin in on the build so nice to see you an the other guys lookin in [/size] :-))
[/size][size=78%]ATB CHRIS [/size]

(https://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/8503dead-eye-4-mm-18u.jpg)(https://i.ibb.co/C05fnG4/IMG-6162.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: kevin547n on April 26, 2021, 03:15:08 pm
yes all the forums seam to be quiet this year, but i still have builds i follow, and call in every now and again, i started following your build whilst doing my Fleetscale 1/72 HMS Fife



Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 26, 2021, 05:34:42 pm
yes all the forums seam to be quiet this year, but i still have builds i follow, and call in every now and again, i started following your build whilst doing my Fleetscale 1/72 HMS Fife


OH WELL Kevin im glad you guys are followin the build as it makes puttin on the build worth it an is you HMS Fife on here ?
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Chris Preston on April 26, 2021, 06:36:11 pm
Hi Chris,


Yes - please continue posting updates and photos of your progress - it's very motivational for the rest of us.


Cheers,


Chris - in Victoria, BC
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 26, 2021, 07:11:00 pm
Hi Chris,


Yes - please continue posting updates and photos of your progress - it's very motivational for the rest of us.


Cheers,


Chris - in Victoria, BC


WILL DO  Chris as long as my pc dont crash again an if it helps you all then good for us all then. AN im now goin to post a few more upate pics of the boot line bein done an cor it was a job to get the lines straight as poissible due to the hull curves as ive had tape on an off 4 times because the lines just dint look right but hopefully ive now manageded it
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Chris Preston on April 26, 2021, 07:14:37 pm
 :-))   :-))
Chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 26, 2021, 08:32:51 pm
WELL HI all again well hope fully ive think ive mandaged the boot toppin an it looks reasonable to me after much tearin out of my hair tryin to get the lines level lol
https://ibb.co/k1Td4cC


(https://i.ibb.co/zJgkXfv/P1020542.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 26, 2021, 08:33:58 pm
https://ibb.co/fXCD44P



(https://i.ibb.co/sgFWyyM/P1020543.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 26, 2021, 08:37:27 pm
an thank goodness for tamyia maskin tape as its given nice sharp lines
an bottom line now bein gently removed
https://ibb.co/w6c9bLQ


(https://i.ibb.co/9YZFfv4/P1020544.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 26, 2021, 08:40:00 pm
an now the top tape fingers crossed for no leaks under the tape
https://ibb.co/zhxxT5Z



(https://i.ibb.co/XZLLr4t/P1020545.jpg)


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 26, 2021, 08:41:26 pm
an phew seems ok
https://ibb.co/yhCbjVF :-))


(https://i.ibb.co/hXNtzCF/P1020546.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 26, 2021, 08:42:06 pm
https://ibb.co/QNcWsP3


(https://i.ibb.co/KqGtC2p/P1020547.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 26, 2021, 08:43:51 pm
an yes to me it looks straight


https://ibb.co/cvNRwcZ



(https://i.ibb.co/xsMwYSB/P1020548.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 26, 2021, 08:49:38 pm
nice bow shot now it will be soon time when paint hardens off to fit all the draught markins an penant NO's an the letter nr the rear sayin TIGER then it will be time to spray her all over with clear laquer
https://ibb.co/FHq4Gpf


(https://i.ibb.co/y4BFL2M/P1020550.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Chris Preston on April 26, 2021, 09:00:01 pm
Looks straight to me.  :-))


Chris, in Victoria, BC

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 26, 2021, 09:07:21 pm
Looks straight to me.  :-))


Chris, in Victoria, BC
WELL Chris if you think it does well i'll leave well alone an carry on to the next stage cheers for your comment my self doubt has flown out of the window lol
ATB chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Capt Podge on April 26, 2021, 09:15:32 pm
Looks to be a good straight line to me as well Chris.
On the bow photo I think there's a very slight bit where the black has crept under the masking and onto the grey.  :o


I'd hate to see you go ahead with the lacquer and then have to rub it down again.
Hope you can just touch in the grey over the black ok?


Ray.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 26, 2021, 10:52:06 pm
Looks to be a good straight line to me as well Chris.
On the bow photo I think there's a very slight bit where the black has crept under the masking and onto the grey.  :o


I'd hate to see you go ahead with the lacquer and then have to rub it down again.
Hope you can just touch in the grey over the black ok?


Ray.


HI RAY nice to see you on here an yes there is a mark just above the top black line onto the grey but its not paint its a pencil mark so i could line up the maskin tape so i will easy just paint grey over it an thank you for bein very observant as i have several other pencil lines to eraze but first im leavin the hull be an let the paint harden off  then its onto the next stages
cheers for stoppin
chris :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Capt Podge on April 26, 2021, 11:24:19 pm
Hiya Chris, well that's good news about the pencil marks, thanks for letting us know. Just glad it's all ok...
And you're right to leave the hull paint to harden off.  :-))

Ray.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 27, 2021, 08:55:23 am
Hiya Chris, well that's good news about the pencil marks, thanks for letting us know. Just glad it's all ok...
And you're right to leave the hull paint to harden off.  :-))

Ray.


HI Again Ray yes it is good news for me as building this hull has been a heck of a battle as at times i nr give up an then i think youre got to carry on as i have to much money invested in this an a collector wants her when ive finshed with her an he asks how its comin on an like you i have sevral others askin how the build is goin so i feel oblegated to finish her an this is my last big build as gettin on an thank you Martin for puttin on my pics so  quick cheers  :-)) ATB all
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on April 30, 2021, 07:49:31 am
HI Chris,


Nice to see the weather has been good, so you could paint Tiger, looks a good job.

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 30, 2021, 11:07:09 am
HI Chris,


Nice to see the weather has been good, so you could paint Tiger, looks a good job.


HI Dave yea i was lucky to get that nice spell of fairly warm an sunny wheather as my wife jen said get your ship ready now as i had to paint humbroll maskol over all the porthole glass an there was quite a few to do an that took a half a day an then markin  out the paint  lines so i could spray paint her an yes im pleased that the outcome was positive an now im letting the paint harden for a few days or so an then all the decalls an then 4 coats of  clear lauqer sprayin to give it all a good hard coat hope to see some more work on your burke when you can
ATB CHRIS
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on May 01, 2021, 05:35:26 pm
Chris
Thought you might like to see this, bridge work on C99 Blake


Bob


(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/05/01/100_1738.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 01, 2021, 08:26:52 pm
Chris
Thought you might like to see this, bridge work on C99 Blake


Bob
hi Bob is this your blake ?
chris an cheers for the pic an infor  :-))


(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/05/01/100_1738.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on May 01, 2021, 09:02:48 pm
Chris
Don't have Blake Chris, just one of the 1000+ images of Tiger Class in my archive


Bob

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 02, 2021, 10:20:14 am
COR many thanks Bob that shot of the crane will be very helpfull to me as im now building it but ive had to fit my cable pulley wheels  in side the jib as i have  had to make my jib hinge in two so that the crane jib fouls back on its self  as its quite big nr a foot long so when in transport it wont  get damaged an im hopein to fit some led lights on the end of the jib as on my plans it shows two lights pointing down for the operater to see what he's lifting  :-))
ATB Bob
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on May 02, 2021, 03:21:52 pm
I caught up with your build at the two year mark and thought how much work you had crammed into two short years! Everything is lovely about this build. from the brass work to the finish of the hull. She'll be a marvel on the water Chris!
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 02, 2021, 05:32:41 pm
I caught up with your build at the two year mark and thought how much work you had crammed into two short years! Everything is lovely about this build. from the brass work to the finish of the hull. She'll be a marvel on the water Chris!


HI [size=78%]ballastanksian[/size][/size][size=78%]  MANY THANKS  FOR YOUR NICE COMMENTS ON my build an yes ive been gettin stuck into this build as i want to finish her before bad helalth gets me as gettin on an yes she should look nice when she's done an ive just got to hope that the pond is still there lol   to sail her on [/size]
[/size][size=78%]thanks for lookin in [/size]
[/size][size=78%]chris [/size]
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on May 03, 2021, 01:52:32 pm
Chris
Crane spotlight view


Bob


(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/05/03/port-1048.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 03, 2021, 04:47:32 pm
Chris
Crane spotlight view


CHEERS Bob but i have built the jib what i need if you can is pics of the crane mounting if you wont mind
chris :-))


(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/05/03/port-1048.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on May 03, 2021, 10:55:58 pm
here you go


Bob

(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/05/03/Scan0073.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/05/03/Scan0065.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/05/03/Scan0072.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/05/03/Scan0006.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 04, 2021, 06:53:36 am
MANY THANKS Bob these pics will do nicely cheers
chris :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on May 04, 2021, 11:21:19 pm
First rate references :-)) :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: derekwarner on May 05, 2021, 03:09:18 am
Just a little difficult to understand how this form of pollution could have been left un-cleaned  >>:-( on a Vessel whilst in a Commissioned role


So can only assume the image is of the Vessel in a de-Commissioned state?...


Having said this, I do not understand the source or type of contamination/polution [fluid?] over the vertical structure siding below??


Derek
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 05, 2021, 08:20:17 am
Just a little difficult to understand how this form of pollution could have been left un-cleaned  >>:-( on a Vessel whilst in a Commissioned role


So can only assume the image is of the Vessel in a de-Commissioned state?...


Having said this, I do not understand the source or type of contamination/polution [fluid?] over the vertical structure siding below??


Derek


HI Derek i think by the looks of it in the pics she's  bein scrapped  so you are right she is [size=78%] [/size][/size][size=78%]de-Commissioned state?.. pity but im gonna make sure my tiger does'nt get to this state lol[/size]
[/size][size=78%]chris[/size]
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: warspite on May 05, 2021, 10:01:33 am
Obviously hydraulic fluid leakage when they removed the lattice crane and other issues when not being in use i.e. awaiting to be scrapped  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 05, 2021, 11:52:12 am
Obviously hydraulic fluid leakage when they removed the lattice crane and other issues when not being in use i.e. awaiting to be scrapped  :embarrassed:


HI Warspite yea i think you are right as that would happen when scrapping things pity as she was a nice looking ship
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on May 05, 2021, 02:13:02 pm
Just a little difficult to understand how this form of pollution could have been left un-cleaned  >>:-( on a Vessel whilst in a Commissioned role


So can only assume the image is of the Vessel in a de-Commissioned state?...


Having said this, I do not understand the source or type of contamination/polution [fluid?] over the vertical structure siding below??

Derek
Just looking at the image shows it is not in commission and the marks are from cutters torches, this/was HMS Blake being cut for scrap.


Bob

Derek
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 06, 2021, 06:50:57 pm
HI ALL ANOTHER SMALL UPDATE ON HER
AN now ive been fitting on her draught markinds an penant N/O.s
https://ibb.co/qkYWrcf
(https://i.ibb.co/jgkWrQ2/P1020589.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 06, 2021, 06:54:08 pm
an to make sure the markins are straight an upright i used a set sqaure on them
https://ibb.co/b6mpq25
(https://i.ibb.co/Tw2zpbM/P1020579.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 06, 2021, 06:54:49 pm
https://ibb.co/SVjXhwv
(https://i.ibb.co/3S3yDmh/P1020580.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 06, 2021, 06:55:57 pm
midway markins
https://ibb.co/YWRgFBp
(https://i.ibb.co/X42HrxS/P1020588.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 06, 2021, 06:57:18 pm
an bow draught markins
https://ibb.co/wWZTwC2
(https://i.ibb.co/mqrmXtP/P1020586.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 06, 2021, 06:58:15 pm
port side penant no.s
https://ibb.co/BLYDbfV
(https://i.ibb.co/NxGh5F6/P1020587.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 06, 2021, 07:01:24 pm
an again on straboad side fitting  penant no.s
with a set sqaure an maskin tape to make sure they are level
https://ibb.co/jb1XBkr
(https://i.ibb.co/ZGkDtzM/P1020583.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 06, 2021, 07:03:57 pm
an they are on ok
https://ibb.co/BfH31VK
next up is sprayin her in hher clear gloss lauqer 4 coats to help with the water proffin
(https://i.ibb.co/0np2wjV/P1020584.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 06, 2021, 07:08:12 pm
AN NOW ive started tryin to build this big crane jib an i know its not entirely arccrute but im useing up spare brass P/E an brass angle
https://ibb.co/sKVGBm1
(https://i.ibb.co/rxwSW7p/P1020565.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 06, 2021, 07:13:09 pm
an here more spare BRASS P/E  to use on the jib if i can i may get the crane workin but will see on that as more top wheight i dont really want
https://ibb.co/pWSDt1m
(https://i.ibb.co/Rhqnxg5/P1020567.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 06, 2021, 07:14:26 pm
here the crane jib nr built
https://ibb.co/BwdfJb2
(https://i.ibb.co/t3kH6gp/P1020569.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 06, 2021, 07:18:18 pm
AN IVE HAD to put the wire rope roller wheels inside the jib as i have make it to fold up so it dont get damadged in transport
https://ibb.co/CQDc5yd
(https://i.ibb.co/zZDMhgc/P1020570.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 06, 2021, 07:28:01 pm
an i fitted lights on as well
https://ibb.co/5TDZ8cP
(https://i.ibb.co/dB9Z2KR/P1020575.jpg)
AN NEXT I'LL try an make up the cranes mounting but i first gonna give it a bit of thought to see if i can get the crane to work
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on May 08, 2021, 02:45:27 pm
Steady wins the race! That looks a fine piece of work, and I like the planning you have done for transport. One less thing to get stuck in the roof of the car/low hanging branch at the lake side/floppy jumper sleeve!!!


I know you have done the decals now so by all means ignore me, but if you spray the areas you are applying decals with gloss varnish, it prevents silvering caused by the decal backing trapping squillions of air bubbles as found in the gaps between the matt paint particles.


The Pennant numbers won't suffer as there's no backing :)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 08, 2021, 06:16:19 pm
HI ballastanksian


JUST to be sure on them decals im gonna fit some on a scrap bit of wood an the spray lauqer them an see if ok thanks for the heads up
chris

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on May 08, 2021, 07:59:28 pm
She coming along Chris, will be nice to see her on the water in time  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 08, 2021, 08:46:14 pm
She coming along Chris, will be nice to see her on the water in time  :-))
THANKS  Dave an im lookin forward to it but still a lot to do on her before that happens an your burke looks great an she will also look great on the water
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: derekwarner on May 09, 2021, 12:12:52 am
mmmmmmmmmm... >>:-( difficiult to find the correct adjective for the word 'fine'........ 'fineness' would not pass the Pub Test'

....filigree is not applicable for such light & fragile brass lattice type work *&(*&*^^%%^ ...as the elements lose their fragility when assembled


Excellent result :-)) .....will need just the lightest whisper of paint :P to maintain the delicate structure :-))   [or is it delicateness?]


Derek
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 09, 2021, 07:26:56 am
HI ballastanksian


JUST to be sure on them decals im gonna fit some on a scrap bit of wood an the spray lauqer them an see if ok thanks for the heads up
chris




HI [/size]ballastanksian well i did some tests on a scrap bit of wood that i used to see if the clear lauqer would attack the paint an it was ok on all the colours so last night  i fitted some spare decals on the test bit an then sprayed over the decals an it looks fine as far as i can see no silvering under the decals so should be ok on that but when ever i do an anything like this i always test first as there is a lot of dosh invested in tiger an i dont want to mess it up if i can help it as a boaty m8 done this he dint do a test bit an his paint crazed on his hull how he's got over it i dont know as i havnt seen him yet as we now comin out of lockdown will have a look when i can chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 09, 2021, 07:40:40 am
mmmmmmmmmm... >>:-( difficiult to find the correct adjective for the word 'fine'........ 'fineness' would not pass the Pub Test'

....filigree is not applicable for such light & fragile brass lattice type work *&(*&*^^%%^ ...as the elements lose their fragility when assembled


Excellent result :-)) .....will need just the lightest whisper of paint :P to maintain the delicate structure :-))   [or is it delicateness?]


Derek


HI Derek  thank you for your nice comment on sayin Excellent result on that brass crane jib but its not delicate in fact its quite strong but as its gonna be postioned right near the bow end hull jiont if i dint make it fold up it would be stickin out off the hull by nr 6inches an it would most  certainly got damaged when in transport to the pond so makein it fold up is a must  thank you for lookin in at the build  :-))
chris




Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on May 09, 2021, 09:43:53 pm
Hi Chris
Hope you don't mind me posting these shots of my Tiger all wrapped up ready for the application of the BSI 381C-676 paint, finally got enough to be able to correct the incorrect grey used earlier, just need the weather now.


Bob



(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/05/09/IMG_0970.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/05/09/IMG_0971.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/05/09/IMG_0969.jpg)

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 10, 2021, 07:21:17 am
Hi Chris[/size]Hope you don't mind me posting these shots of my Tiger all wrapped up ready for the application of the BSI 381C-676 paint, finally got enough to be able to correct the incorrect grey used earlier, just need the weather now.
(Bob Qoute)


HI Bob no probs what are you reworkin her completely ? as after a few yrs or so these ships need a repaint dont they as i have found out an done how long have you had her now ? An yes waiting for the warm wheather can take months as i have found out tryin to paint spray my TIGER as i missed the chance back in in the end of march we had a couple of days of warm wheather  but  i after that i kept an eye on the wheather forecast now


but yesterday we got a nice sunny warm day  so it was panic stations an get the hulls down into the garage so i could spray the 4 coats of clear lauqer on the hulls


an  that lauqer as it stinks something terrible an me even with a double masks   on an goggles on it gave me a headacke an had to get out an away from it  fast
as its ok  an losses the smell when its gone dry an hard but im not best pleased with the finish but like on my other ships after a little while it will wheather down an look better then i can carry on to the next stage but for now will have to leave it alone an let that lauqer go off an harden for a week or so
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on May 10, 2021, 12:17:19 pm
Chris
Not a rework but when I originally finished her order the light weather works paint, did a test spray and all seemed ok, but having painted her it dried to the shade of the grey used before that, much like Cavalier at Chatham.
This time decided to use an airbrush and wait till I could get enough of the grey, all in place just need the weather now


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 10, 2021, 09:00:34 pm
Chris
Not a rework but when I originally finished her order the light weather works paint, did a test spray and all seemed ok, but having painted her it dried to the shade of the grey used before that, much like Cavalier at Chatham.
This time decided to use an airbrush and wait till I could get enough of the grey, all in place just need the weather now


Bob


YEA Bob that was my problem the weather  but ive managed to spray her yestereday as it was nice an sunny an warm here with  clear lauqer 4 coats
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on May 10, 2021, 09:59:51 pm
Miserable and wet with intermittent burst of sun lasting Nano seconds.  Never used lacquer, much prefer one coat matt varnish, but its what works for us isn't it.


bob

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 10, 2021, 10:52:13 pm
Miserable and wet with intermittent burst of sun lasting Nano seconds.  Never used lacquer, much prefer one coat matt varnish, but its what works for us isn't it.


bob
HI Bob yes the weather has been a devil as you never know how it will work now one its sunny an warm nxt day its hail an sleet crazy isnt it an this is may i dont think we will get much nice weather afore sept
stay well Bob
ATB Chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 11, 2021, 09:34:59 am
HI Bob when you get your tiger all sprayed up can you please post some pics of her  on here if you like or on your thread either one  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 11, 2021, 01:28:07 pm
Until I can get Roosevelt on the water for a test ballasting I donít know how much more ballast she will need to bring her down to the correct water line. Iíve do prelim checks in the hot tube, this showed she still requires additional ballas
[/size](Dave Qoute) from his burke thread
[/size]
[/size]AN hi Dave yea getting the ballast correct is a HECK of a job especially when i was building my big USS NIMITZ CVN-68 here in her test tank as there was so much over hang from the flightdeck was nr 2an a half feet wide an now my TIGER will be hopefully in the test tank in a month or so
[/size]https://ibb.co/Tt46RPVchris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 11, 2021, 03:32:51 pm
AN  NIMTZ  at  water level veiw in test tank
https://ibb.co/25gM38g
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on May 11, 2021, 09:38:03 pm
HI Bob when you get your tiger all sprayed up can you please post some pics of her  on here if you like or on your thread either one  :-))
chris


Chris
Will do, probably hull first as still a few tweaks to do to the bridge, the SCOT domes and bases arrived to day so building their platforms now.


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on May 11, 2021, 09:38:47 pm
AN  NIMTZ  at  water level veiw in test tank
https://ibb.co/25gM38g (https://ibb.co/25gM38g)


Nice test tank


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 12, 2021, 06:35:06 am

Nice test tank


Bob
HI Bob yes it does the job  its a cattle  trough   that a freind gave me  an just a nice size an TIGER should fit in ok
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on May 12, 2021, 09:42:47 pm
Ha Ha love it Chris
First three coats on Tiger, think you can see a big difference in colour not correct standards paint used.


Bob
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/05/12/IMG_0972.jpg)

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 13, 2021, 09:23:39 am
Ha Ha love it Chris
First three coats on Tiger, think you can see a big difference in colour not correct standards paint used.


Bob
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/05/12/IMG_0972.jpg)


HI Bob  glad you like my test tank as its been a very handy item an glad you getting her resprayed in normal grey an you say you are tweeking the bridge an such so is this repairing the damage you got on  hitting that bit of concrete overhang as thats nearly  happened to me
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on May 13, 2021, 10:46:22 pm
Chris
Tweaking the bridge involves replacing the top of the mast (done) and fitting new SCOT domes platforms in correct location and adding the new SCOT domes and bases. then a coat of grey, add the pennant numbers and we are done.
Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 14, 2021, 06:52:00 am
Chris
Tweaking the bridge involves replacing the top of the mast (done) and fitting new SCOT domes platforms in correct location and adding the new SCOT domes and bases. then a coat of grey, add the pennant numbers and we are done.
Bob


HI Bob  oh so very glad you have repaired the mast an new scott domes on her could you please send a couple of pics of her when she is done
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 19, 2021, 08:11:34 pm
HI ALL UPDATE TIME
AN im thinking of leaveing the ships crane for a while so i can think up how to get it to work if possible
so ive been working on spraying the hull with clear lauqer to give her a better bit of water proffing an now ive done that ive stripped off the maskin tape so the lovely stainless steel prop tube are now seen
https://ibb.co/4JVjV38

(https://i.ibb.co/GF5V5NW/P1020590.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 19, 2021, 08:21:22 pm
an now some pics on how far shes got with her stabilizers all fitted in an her big rudder as well fitted in an props all fitted on an soon now will be test tank time but first i fitted in some metal L SHAPE angels to give the hull jiont more strenght
https://ibb.co/SxnqxLt


(https://i.ibb.co/7zW7z9n/P1020593.jpg)



Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 19, 2021, 08:22:40 pm
an all painted up a nice white so look nice an neat
https://ibb.co/BBNmmfr


(https://i.ibb.co/KWwYY5L/P1020599.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 19, 2021, 08:23:17 pm
https://ibb.co/3d5xPDk


(https://i.ibb.co/Khct8Mm/P1020594.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 19, 2021, 08:23:50 pm
https://ibb.co/LRRcbbj


(https://i.ibb.co/6wwTVV9/P1020600.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 19, 2021, 08:25:34 pm
an here some shots of the props an shafts
https://ibb.co/sRtnX7p


(https://i.ibb.co/GpFyrmf/P1020601.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 19, 2021, 08:26:06 pm
https://ibb.co/DwBBYXC



(https://i.ibb.co/RQXXNn0/P1020602.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 19, 2021, 08:27:12 pm
rudder shot
https://ibb.co/M7JGZQm



(https://i.ibb.co/hVTZLwS/P1020603.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 19, 2021, 08:28:54 pm
https://ibb.co/sQQwwDR
an now soon in the test tank for water tests



(https://i.ibb.co/82255Rs/P1020608.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on May 19, 2021, 09:23:42 pm
Paint job looking good Chris :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 20, 2021, 09:28:42 am
Paint job looking good Chris :-))


CHEERS Dave  :-))  just got to leave it a few days for the paint to harden off an then need nice wheather an she will be in her water test tank for testing
chris

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 28, 2021, 07:43:35 pm
HI ALL JUST A FEW PICS ON WHAT IVE BEEN DOIN ON HER WHILE I WAIT FOR BETTER WHEATHER TO DO A WATER TEST  >>:-( <*< :-))
ANY WAY ANKORS FITTED
https://ibb.co/NjJZBdH


(https://i.ibb.co/J7G5JwM/P1020613.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 28, 2021, 07:45:09 pm
AN  LOVE TO SEE THEM DANGLE ON THEIR CHAINS
https://ibb.co/6PhzRSK



(https://i.ibb.co/T8X6BGQ/P1020616.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 28, 2021, 07:45:55 pm
https://ibb.co/kgFDNKT



(https://i.ibb.co/fY7NjMW/P1020617.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 28, 2021, 07:46:48 pm
BOW VIEW
https://ibb.co/ygjRKvC



(https://i.ibb.co/9y5vBK0/P1020618.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 28, 2021, 07:50:15 pm
AN I JUST PUT  HER TOGEATHER AGAIN NOW SHE HAS GOT A BIT OF COLOUR ON HER HULL
https://ibb.co/ByHcY85



(https://i.ibb.co/rxKFXnR/P1020619.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 28, 2021, 07:50:58 pm
https://ibb.co/5BgTh0V


(https://i.ibb.co/V2cVY18/P1020620.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 28, 2021, 07:51:54 pm
(https://ibb.co/1XR6JPB)



(https://i.ibb.co/X5F8kK6/P1020621.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 28, 2021, 07:52:34 pm
https://ibb.co/GHfLwtp :-))



(https://i.ibb.co/HhLsvx4/P1020624.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on May 28, 2021, 08:14:17 pm
She Huge, but coming long nice build Chris  :-))





Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 28, 2021, 08:36:44 pm
She Huge, but coming long nice build Chris  :-))
HI Dave yea she is a biggy isnt she lookin forward to putting her in the test tank over wk end if nice weather
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 28, 2021, 09:52:19 pm
THANK YOU Martin for bringing up my pics  :-))
cheers chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 30, 2021, 08:00:06 pm

HI ALL UPDATE ON WATER TESTS
[/size]an i put her in the test tank an loaded her down with about 30 pounds of batts an after half an hr she had two tiny bubble leaks in her hull[/color][/size]

so took batts out an took her out of the tank an then just poured in some resin over the small areas an then back into the tank an put back in the batts an she was ok for near about 3hrs in the tank an no more leaks im pleased to say an the shock test went ok as we lift her up an give her a shake with a big batt in the centre of the hull an jen said no cracking sounds so that test passed ok
[/color][/size]an stabilty was reasonable but i think im gonna fit a keel weight on her as i dont want to have to fit all those big batts in when i sail her so the keel wheight will be the way to go SO IN OTHER WORDS SHE PASSED HER TESTS OK an now some picces but they are not that good as over the yrs livin here jen has fitted around my test tank a lot of bushes an plants so i could not get right down to take pics of tiger in the tank an i took about 80 pics an here now ive just picked out the best ones an they are a little blured as the sun light was so bright on the white plasti card super structure it caused a little light reflection so my auto camera cut down the light so not so good picsanyway 1st picces just in the tank an no batts weghts in her as i just wanted to see how she floated
https://ibb.co/94qjHG8[/size]
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 30, 2021, 08:00:47 pm
https://ibb.co/YNXTMKs
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 30, 2021, 08:02:07 pm
shot of the really heavy batts
https://ibb.co/d7NQT5P
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 30, 2021, 08:09:32 pm
here the two areas where she had tiny leaks  >>:-( <:(  an just poured on some resin  an more leaks  <*< i thought that she would leak in about a dozen places but i was surprised  :-))  one tiny leak in the stern section as you can see where by the orange resin
https://ibb.co/r5mpLm1


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 30, 2021, 08:10:37 pm
an other leak in the front right nr the bow thruster
https://ibb.co/r4KWZz1
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 30, 2021, 08:12:59 pm
an with all four heavy batts in to do a water pressure test
an it pushed her down to about half way on her black water line
https://ibb.co/m5MHLtY
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 30, 2021, 08:14:12 pm
stern area
https://ibb.co/2hjNnCt
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 30, 2021, 08:16:39 pm
some shots here with her S/S ON BUT no heavy masts yet
https://ibb.co/NyJxMfZ
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 30, 2021, 08:17:31 pm
https://ibb.co/d7vBhdf
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 30, 2021, 08:18:13 pm
https://ibb.co/vkqYLsv
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 30, 2021, 08:19:11 pm
https://ibb.co/PCMXmH9
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 30, 2021, 08:19:43 pm
https://ibb.co/yYnKPr7
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 30, 2021, 08:21:06 pm
an finally with her masts on
https://ibb.co/7jYLbqc
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 30, 2021, 08:21:39 pm
https://ibb.co/Qk2kJtV
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 30, 2021, 08:22:13 pm
https://ibb.co/d7PF4WH
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 30, 2021, 08:22:49 pm
https://ibb.co/nCvQHfX
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 30, 2021, 08:25:02 pm
an fineally SWMBO gives the all good sign as she was helpin me on this
https://ibb.co/GcZP7hC :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 23, 2021, 10:36:36 pm
HI ALL well since the water tests went well ive now been experimenting with the hull  strenght as the last thing i want to happen is the hull breakin in half due to a weak jiont when loaded with big batterys  up the pond so thats what been happening big batts in an my wife jen helped me to lift tiger loaded with big batts an im pleased to say she passed her lift test an no hull crackin an in the linkpic a shot of the batts against my hand for scale
https://ibb.co/3CzZL24
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 23, 2021, 10:49:43 pm
BUT IM THINKING OF JUST USEING TWO 12 AMP HR BATTS RATHER THAN THE REALLY BIG 2O APM HR SO HERE IT IS
https://ibb.co/mvyGz5M
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 23, 2021, 10:56:18 pm
AN IF NEEDED A KEEL WEIGHT TWO X HALF AN INCH BY HALF AN INCH STEEL BARS BOLTED TO THE HALF INCH KEEL AN A SHOT HERE AN SHE HAS GOT ABOUT 5 BOLT HOLES IN THE FRONT HALF AN THE SAME IN THE REAR SECTION  HULL
https://ibb.co/LzXGGRX


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 23, 2021, 10:58:33 pm
CLOSE UP SHOT OF THE BOLT HOLES AN IVE FITTED IN THE HOLES PLASTIC TUBES SO THE WATER WONT GET INTO THE WOOD KEEL
https://ibb.co/Z6k6mLy
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 23, 2021, 11:03:27 pm
AN HERE the shot of both steel keel wheight as she will have 4 two the front an two on the rear section hull
https://ibb.co/gWkwvbm
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 23, 2021, 11:06:14 pm
close up shot of the keel wheights all drilled out an ready to take the nuts an blots to hold on the keel wheights
https://ibb.co/YTpq5cR
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 23, 2021, 11:09:40 pm
an a over all shot of the front wheights just clamped on the main keel
an it wont be seen but may make a big difference
https://ibb.co/JnvPMWt :-))
chris

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on June 24, 2021, 05:00:44 pm
Chris,
I assume you will put this keel on when you get to the lake ?



Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on June 24, 2021, 08:09:18 pm
Chris,
I assume you will put this keel on when you get to the lake ?


HI Dave i will only put this keel wheight on if she needs it as this size of hull is like my nimitz carrier an i made up these keel wheights an she sailed ok an dint need it but tiger is so much different due to the fact that she has some big an fairly heavy S/S on her an for the wind to catch so this keel is a just in case job but i always like to think ahead as it easyily just bolts on so no problem an as its right under the hull an wont be seen  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on July 22, 2021, 11:11:59 pm
Chris
Thought you might like to see these.  1/96 scale built by a memebr of hMS Tiger group, built in 18 months.


Bob



(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/07/22/IMG_1060.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/07/22/IMG_1057.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/07/22/IMG_1058.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/07/22/IMG_1059.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 23, 2021, 08:37:39 am
HI Bob oh cheers for them pics of tiger is this that admirillty model ? as it looks fantastic if mine comes up half as good as this i will be well pleased but at the moment im still stuck on my motors problem as ive got 3 motors running ok but for some reason no.3 motor was a bit stiff turning so i too all the motors out an regeased all 4 prop shafts an they turn quite easy an not stiff


an they seem ok so put it all back  in an that no. 3 motor was still stiff so  i dissconected  it from the BECC ESC  an wired it up to my 40 meg esc an usin the 40meg T/X let it on its own just run at about quarter throutle  to see if it needed to be run in  an after about 15 mins  it started to smoke so i stopped it quick an disscneoted the batt leads an took the motor out an yes it was burning out


So i oreded two more new motors an when they came i fitted a new motor in an ran all four motor on the BECC system  an i thuoght great im gettin somewhere but after a few mins that no' 3 motor was gettin very warm but yet all the other motors were hardly warm so ive taken out the motor an the motor mounts just in case its not lined up properly  SO today i'll try an find out why that no'3 motor is gettin hot an try fittin in a coolin fan on it when ive fitted new mounts in
chris

 
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on July 23, 2021, 09:10:10 am
Chris
Nope just a home made model ike ours.  You know that freq has not affect on the esc as they only do what they re told by the rx.  It seems odd that one motor is burning up.  Wish I was nearer.  Did you try the seperate battery pack for the rx?


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on July 23, 2021, 12:43:42 pm
Chris,


Sorry to hear your still having issues, itís strange that motor 3 is alway the motor thatís giving issue. Keep with it , your get there. As Rob said sorry Iím not closer to help.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 23, 2021, 03:27:16 pm
Chris
Nope just a home made model ike ours.  You know that freq has not affect on the esc as they only do what they re told by the rx.  It seems odd that one motor is burning up.  Wish I was nearer.  Did you try the seperate battery pack for the rx?


Bob


HI Bob well whoever built it can you please tell them very well done from me
an yes i cant understand why this no'3 motor is getting very hot either as thats why im gonna try changeing the angle of the motor in new mounts  an no ive not treid  a seperate batt pack yet on the R/X   im savin that if all eles fails
but will see how it goes an im gonna stick at it tell i get it right
ATB chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 23, 2021, 03:35:05 pm
Chris,


Sorry to hear your still having issues, itís strange that motor 3 is alway the motor thatís giving issue. Keep with it , your get there. As Rob said sorry Iím not closer to help.


YEA Dave that the probs is distance isnt it an yes i cant understand why that new motor is gettin hot  either while the other three are hardly warm after running a while  as ive never had this problem on all my builds but ive never had this BECC system before either but i dont think its that is the problem or all the motors would get hot crazy aint it but will stick at it untill i solve it will try fitting a cooling fan derectly onto the motor an see if that helps
ATB CHRIS

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on July 23, 2021, 03:54:46 pm
Chris, what happens if you relocate the number 3 hot motor to one of the other motor location. Does the number 3 motor in the new location get or is the motor in to the number 3 location getting hot ????
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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 23, 2021, 04:05:08 pm
Chris, what happens if you relocate the number 3 hot motor to one of the other motor location. Does the number 3 motor in the new location get or is the motor in to the number 3 location getting hot ????



HI AGAIN Dave i'll just get me motor mounts fitted back in an then i'll give it a try out as i could take out no'4 motor an stick no'3 in its place an then try an if ok then i'll put no'4 in no3 place an see if it gets hot VERY GOOD IDEA DAVE 'll try it as ive moved this all in an out an around 5 time now an im gettin a bit frustrated i think now it i cant see the wood for the trees  angle if you see what i mean but thank you will try that
ATB Chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on July 23, 2021, 04:11:47 pm
Chris,


I know what you mean, just take your time and make one change at a time, this will help you to see the trees not the forest. Best of luck  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 23, 2021, 04:22:28 pm
Chris,


I know what you mean, just take your time and make one change at a time, this will help you to see the trees not the forest. Best of luck  :-))


OK Dave cheers for the idea an i think i'll need the luck as if i can just get this sorted then i can carry on with the build
cheers
chris :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: RST on July 23, 2021, 08:17:58 pm
Not sure if it's already been suggested but when I secure a brushed motor, I tend to run the motor from a single AA dry Duracell battery and find the "sweet spot".   There's not enough guts in a single dry AA to turn the motor if there are any problems with alignment or the shaft.  It's a knack, but pretty old skool tried and tested method over the decades.  Personally I wouldn't fit a fan on that motor, it's only like hiding it under a little bit of carpet and crossing fingers.


You can always take each motor out and check the resistance across the terminals with a multimeter at different shaft positions, same for running them on the bench or in situ with a multimeter or power meter to check the current but in my experi nce a bad motor feels different to turn or sounds gnarly when held on the bench anyway.  All that is quite common checks also.



Rich
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 23, 2021, 08:55:21 pm
OK Rich thanks for your reply but im not very good at eletrics in fact im lousey so when my freind comes over i'll ask him to try it what you suggest as he understands eletrics far more than me
but cheers for your blog
chris  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 26, 2021, 07:54:08 am
HI ALL well i think im over my probs on my tiger build thanks to the guys an especially  Bob (rob 47) so hopefully i can now wire it all in an get on with the build  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on July 26, 2021, 08:48:26 am
Well letís hope it all goes well and you can move on with your build  :-))  itís also nice to hear that MBM members able to help each other.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 26, 2021, 08:28:17 pm
Well letís hope it all goes well and you can move on with your build  :-))  itís also nice to hear that MBM members able to help each other.


HI Dave  well its all fitted back in an wired up properly bar the r/x which i will fit in the bow section an treid it today an it all 4 motors run great an no cutting out now an yes now i can move on with the build but its all thanks to all the guys helping me an yes this is a great forum to be on
chris

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: RST on July 26, 2021, 09:59:53 pm
HI ALL well i think im over my probs on my tiger build thanks to the guys an especially  Bob (rob 47) so hopefully i can now wire it all in an get on with the build  :-))
chris


Hi Chris,


Did my original suggestion of trying without BEC and fitting a separate RX supply work for the ESC glitches after all?  Curious as to what was the fix on the problem for the individual motor overheating though?


Glad it's sorted anyway,


Rich
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 26, 2021, 10:15:07 pm

Hi Chris,


Did my original suggestion of trying without BEC and fitting a separate RX supply work for the ESC glitches after all?  Curious as to what was the fix on the problem for the individual motor overheating though?


Glad it's sorted anyway,


Rich




HI Rich i cant remember who said what now if you did many thanks but Bob rob47 told me also as he has a R/C just like mine an he told me that i could do away with the becc an use the batt postion on the R/X with a 6v batt pack  an take out the two red wires an worked  ok  as he said that he had treid it on his r/c an no probs  an i fitted in a new motor but swopped no'4 to no3 postion an new motor in 4 postion an i ran all 4 motors  at about half throttle for 15 mins an reverse  an no cutting out at all SO MANY THANKS TO YOU ALL WHO HELPED now i can get on with the rest of the build hooray
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 27, 2021, 07:37:35 pm
HI ALL well im now starting back on the build after being stalled due to eletric problems but thanks to you guys im back an here in this link pic is the new eletric layout an its neater an ive removed the relay an them plastic plugs that gave me trouble on my nimitz build an fitted in a new motor
 :-)) https://ibb.co/xMSkT9R



(https://i.postimg.cc/30Z1hbP4/IMG-6403.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/30Z1hbP4)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 27, 2021, 07:38:39 pm
an a shot inside the hull
https://ibb.co/6PDkP3j
(https://i.postimg.cc/bDVCS5m7/IMG-6404.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bDVCS5m7)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 27, 2021, 07:40:00 pm
AN HERE im now starting to fit the rudder servo in
https://ibb.co/rm5Xqbb
(https://i.postimg.cc/qggZHkR4/IMG-6405.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qggZHkR4)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 27, 2021, 07:41:43 pm
an servo mounting made but it may need to be moved further back but will see on that
https://ibb.co/zh6d1Q2


(https://i.postimg.cc/v4yzTMQ1/IMG-6408.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v4yzTMQ1)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 27, 2021, 07:44:53 pm
here quater deck is just laid in for now till ive got the rudder push rods fitted an the push rods also fitted to work the 4 stabillizers
https://ibb.co/JmzYDjW



(https://i.postimg.cc/nsH0Rxg8/IMG-6409.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nsH0Rxg8)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on July 27, 2021, 07:45:51 pm
Nice to see your back and Tigers build moving on :-)) :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on July 27, 2021, 07:52:21 pm
Nice to see your back and Tigers build moving on :-)) :-))


MANY THANKS Dave an its good to be back as i was near out of mojo on that eletric problem but when ive done this rudder fittment im stoppin the build to cocentrate on spraying all the superstruckure while its warm wheather
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 02, 2021, 07:43:38 am
HI ALL well thank goodness im over that motors probs thanks to you guys cheers  :-)) an im now actually started painting her an here in this linkpic ive just painted the hangar bay deck an an walkways this will do for now as i will open it up again to fit in the detail
https://ibb.co/MpfpHB1


(https://i.postimg.cc/BPxw0VkL/IMG-6414.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BPxw0VkL)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 02, 2021, 07:47:25 am
an next ive fitted in the main S/S two small fans to help the tiny steam unit fan to build up air pressure to blow steam out of the big funnel may fit a steam unit in the back funnel but will see on space an ship funds lol
https://ibb.co/fr9vwyb


(https://i.postimg.cc/0MvVCfb9/IMG-6017.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0MvVCfb9)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 02, 2021, 07:54:40 am
an in this pic ive now started to mask them up in prep to to sprayin the S/S grey primer first then  humbroll matt light grey no. 64
https://ibb.co/xLdqxWh


(https://i.postimg.cc/Sn8Lt90R/IMG-6419.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Sn8Lt90R)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 02, 2021, 07:59:46 am
AN Here are just some of the  main  parts that are now all masked up an ready to be sprayed painted an there is more to come as i just dint realise how many parts ive scratch built up to now
https://ibb.co/4SwmR6T





(https://i.postimg.cc/6T3rxgsD/IMG-6415.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6T3rxgsD)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 02, 2021, 08:02:08 am
different angle shot as i had a job in the first pic to get all the parts in the camera veiwer
https://ibb.co/1mwp5NQ



(https://i.postimg.cc/xJdzYJZK/IMG-6416.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJdzYJZK)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 02, 2021, 08:12:57 am
AN Here ive fitted in the bow thrusters  motor an blue  ESC an a white voltage reducer  from 12v down to 6v as the bowthruster motor is only 7.2 v so this way wont blow it up an a inline 3 amp fuse to protect it all hopefully an it all works ok phew  :-))
chris
https://ibb.co/tLPRVCL







(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/08/02/IMG-6418.jpg) (https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/image/ap9Ne)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 04, 2021, 08:06:12 am
MANY THANKS Martin for bringin up the pics  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on August 09, 2021, 09:15:34 pm
Chris,
I know this may be to late but thought you may like it [size=78%]https://www.navalanalyses.com/2016/08/warships-of-past-tiger-class-cruisers.html (https://www.navalanalyses.com/2016/08/warships-of-past-tiger-class-cruisers.html)[/size]
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 09, 2021, 10:33:55 pm
Chris,
I know this may be to late but thought you may like it [size=78%]https://www.navalanalyses.com/2016/08/warships-of-past-tiger-class-cruisers.html (https://www.navalanalyses.com/2016/08/warships-of-past-tiger-class-cruisers.html)[/size]


OH Cheers Dave anything on tiger is a help an its not to late as she is still bein built but today ive been painting all the s/s an the green decks so ive been busy today an she starting to lookin something now with a bit of colour on her
cheers for lookin in on the build hope you arm aint to bad as im lookin forward to seein u sailing your burke
ATB chris an jen
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on August 09, 2021, 10:54:23 pm
Wowsers you have made huge strides on this build! I read of your issues with tight props and motors with interest as I bought a cruiser model with the motors and shafts installed, but one of the shafts seems to self tighten it's universal joint or loosen it depending on which way it revolves and wondered if the shaft was out of alignment or some other problem.


Keep up the good work and I am looking forward to loads of painting!
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 10, 2021, 08:07:04 am
Wowsers you have made huge strides on this build! I read of your issues with tight props and motors with interest as I bought a cruiser model with the motors and shafts installed, but one of the shafts seems to self tighten it's universal joint or loosen it depending on which way it revolves and wondered if the shaft was out of alignment or some other problem.


Keep up the good work and I am looking forward to loads of painting!


HI
ballastanksian (https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=14161)  yes its a job on these shafts an motors but i hope my probs are now sorted
an yes im now enjoyin the painting an im about half way  as its so big an the green deck is a bit stripey but it think i'll leave it like that as it will look like wheathering an anyway after a few wks the paint colours settle to a uniformatey when it gets a little  dusty on the decks as im not gonna do a repaint on these as im near
shattered as this is the hardstest build ive ever done an i want to finish it thanks for takin an intrest in the build
ATB chris  :-))
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Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on August 10, 2021, 10:03:27 pm
Chris,
I know this may be to late but thought you may like it [size=78%]https://www.navalanalyses.com/2016/08/warships-of-past-tiger-class-cruisers.html (https://www.navalanalyses.com/2016/08/warships-of-past-tiger-class-cruisers.html)[/size]
Nice to see one of my images used on that site,think copyright gone out the window.  >:-o


Plans all printed up nicely now Dave, thanks again


Bob

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 11, 2021, 09:42:43 am
HI Peeps well ive now started on with painting the S/S ive done the matt light grey an now the deck green an its a bit stripey but well i think it will settle down to uniform later when its a 100% dry an hope this will look like wheathering as i did it with a hairy stick
https://ibb.co/0JLSHsY


(https://i.postimg.cc/WtzJjCp9/IMG-6422.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WtzJjCp9)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 11, 2021, 09:45:23 am
an paint ive used is mainly for R/C aircraft but ive always used this as its hard wearing paint
https://ibb.co/rK9XFw1



(https://i.postimg.cc/qtpzFZZx/IMG-6423.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qtpzFZZx)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 11, 2021, 09:46:10 am
https://ibb.co/X4gcwCd
an done



(https://i.postimg.cc/mzDhL14c/IMG-6425.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mzDhL14c)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 11, 2021, 09:47:37 am
hangar bay now painted
https://ibb.co/PzHNY49



(https://i.postimg.cc/4YgdKSZR/IMG-6427.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4YgdKSZR)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 11, 2021, 09:48:44 am
main S/S done
https://ibb.co/XsNzPZ5



(https://i.postimg.cc/7GdPqBXc/IMG-6429.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7GdPqBXc)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 11, 2021, 09:50:14 am
port side of bridge S/S
https://ibb.co/VQjtKR3



(https://i.postimg.cc/Wtqb5v1P/IMG-6430.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wtqb5v1P)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 11, 2021, 09:50:55 am
https://ibb.co/vQRXfzY



(https://i.postimg.cc/RNcCzLts/IMG-6431.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RNcCzLts)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 11, 2021, 09:52:23 am
HERE all the main S/S togeather
https://ibb.co/2ccBz6T



(https://i.postimg.cc/jDtxqnQs/IMG-6432.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jDtxqnQs)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 11, 2021, 09:53:40 am
starboard side angle
https://ibb.co/ZLWX9bx



(https://i.postimg.cc/xJJYpvYP/IMG-6433.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJJYpvYP)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 11, 2021, 09:54:35 am
an a flat on shot
https://ibb.co/THSL269



(https://i.postimg.cc/6yNwz4Pd/IMG-6434.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6yNwz4Pd)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 11, 2021, 10:00:12 am
rear shot of main S/S an the bridges have yet to be finished building as i have forggten to fit the window wiper boxs so they will be painted later date an ive got to fit in the bridges lights an glazein an next up will be fitting all the ladders an steps on this an then i will be doin the funnels fitting all their ladders an such
chris
https://ibb.co/DztYdND



(https://i.postimg.cc/dLmFftMg/IMG-6435.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dLmFftMg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on August 11, 2021, 03:48:14 pm
Now she's coming together! Re the streaky paint, I over painted areas on my Little Monitor decks to look like maintenance had been done to accentuate the hand painted differences. It doesn't show as much I had hoped, but like you say, it all normalises.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 11, 2021, 06:29:28 pm
Now she's coming together! Re the streaky paint, I over painted areas on my Little Monitor decks to look like maintenance had been done to accentuate the hand painted differences. It doesn't show as much I had hoped, but like you say, it all normalises.


HI YEA i hope so as i hate streaky paint work but these bit of s/s are fairly big an the paint gives me a head acke even with a mask an goggles on so i dont want to have do any more of this painting as ive yet to do the big front deck an the big rear flight deck in grey so more head ackes comin an thats with the windows open as well thanks for lookin in on the build  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on August 12, 2021, 05:54:08 am
Chris,
Tigers coming along nice enjoying your build  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 12, 2021, 07:45:00 am
Chris,
Tigers coming along nice enjoying your build  :-))


cheers Dave im glad you are an yes so am i now ive gotten over that eletronics problem  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 16, 2021, 07:47:53 pm
HI ALL well ive now started to fit on the main S/S some detail an thats the steps ladders an how steep they were i think you have to be fairly fit to go running up an down them any way 1st shot of them fitted to the main S/S
https://ibb.co/rMC7mrh

(https://i.ibb.co/gw5j3K8/IMG-6438.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 16, 2021, 07:51:41 pm
next the top S/S with the steps fitted but they lift of with that section
https://ibb.co/KhM4XdB

(https://i.ibb.co/B3XWtbv/IMG-6437.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 16, 2021, 07:53:15 pm
an here all togeather
https://ibb.co/YbkLWNN

(https://i.ibb.co/fQpxSXX/IMG-6436.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 16, 2021, 07:55:37 pm
next up ive finished both the funnelles
front funnell
https://ibb.co/HHhYDtV


(https://i.ibb.co/9rZ29bN/IMG-6439.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 16, 2021, 07:56:24 pm
https://ibb.co/cFsXBMJ

(https://i.ibb.co/58Jx0tT/IMG-6440.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 16, 2021, 07:59:09 pm
an rear funnel an this has got anti collishion lights on
https://ibb.co/Rh6d3mJ


(https://i.ibb.co/q0gVNf2/IMG-6442.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 16, 2021, 08:01:05 pm
https://ibb.co/jgjxd0t
an thats  as far as ive got an its all been very fiddley :-))
chris


(https://i.ibb.co/RzJM1r8/IMG-6443.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on August 18, 2021, 04:29:34 pm
Excellent progress! Funnels are a project in their own right.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 18, 2021, 04:47:12 pm
Excellent progress! Funnels are a project in their own right.


thank you [size=78%]ballastanksian yes there was quite a bit of work gion into these funnels but got them all now done an im now painting the decks an when they are all done then i can start putting things back togeather as this has an still is a very long build but im enjoyin it an thanks for lookin in [/size]
[/size][size=78%]chris[/size] :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 21, 2021, 09:18:27 pm
HI ALL here are a few link pics of some of the ship just put together an shown her colour
https://ibb.co/VH2FfLm


(https://i.ibb.co/1s8CF06/IMG-6445.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 21, 2021, 09:21:37 pm
looking somthing now
https://ibb.co/9ZkqKy1


(https://i.ibb.co/6X749DT/IMG-6446.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 21, 2021, 09:22:36 pm
https://ibb.co/mcZgp9C

(https://i.ibb.co/G5YNmWv/IMG-6448.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 21, 2021, 09:23:44 pm
https://ibb.co/bFVhCXX


(https://i.ibb.co/T1GX7tt/IMG-6450.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 21, 2021, 09:26:10 pm
https://ibb.co/BcvjF6Z


(https://i.ibb.co/S5H0Gmn/IMG-6451.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 21, 2021, 09:27:11 pm
https://ibb.co/QX9QrPS


(https://i.ibb.co/mSJT69Z/IMG-6452.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on August 21, 2021, 09:27:45 pm
She coming together Chris  :-)) :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 21, 2021, 09:33:39 pm
She coming together Chris  :-)) :-))
cheers dave
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 21, 2021, 09:34:26 pm
https://ibb.co/sg0P1S9


(https://i.ibb.co/JcfdpLj/IMG-6455.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 21, 2021, 09:35:09 pm
https://ibb.co/FV30s0M


(https://i.ibb.co/ZmXYHYP/IMG-6457.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 26, 2021, 12:29:18 pm
HI ALL a few more linkpics of the bow section all now painted up
https://ibb.co/T0mjvLK


(https://i.postimg.cc/zLwHvDfM/IMG-6458.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zLwHvDfM)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 26, 2021, 12:29:53 pm
https://ibb.co/1s92jF9
(https://i.postimg.cc/bdwSYhfC/IMG-6459.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bdwSYhfC)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 26, 2021, 12:30:28 pm
https://ibb.co/RvsKMh4


(https://i.postimg.cc/jDHSQgrn/IMG-6465.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jDHSQgrn)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 26, 2021, 12:31:16 pm
https://ibb.co/0B99gf0


(https://i.postimg.cc/zLPZnK3R/IMG-6460.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zLPZnK3R)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on August 26, 2021, 12:31:43 pm
Chris,


Nice white chain  :-))  typical 1970s RN bull***t {-)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 26, 2021, 12:34:06 pm
Chris,


Nice white chain  :-))  typical 1970s RN bull***t {-)


HI Dave yes it is but that s what the pics show
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 26, 2021, 12:35:11 pm
https://ibb.co/VC9dMH7
(https://i.postimg.cc/HrZPKHmq/IMG-6461.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HrZPKHmq)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 26, 2021, 12:37:51 pm
An ive  just fitted on the bottom bridge to see if it will fit as a coat of paint makes all the difference as these bridges are a very tight fit
https://ibb.co/9HHxV0C
(https://i.postimg.cc/MvsCk1b3/IMG-6462.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MvsCk1b3)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 26, 2021, 12:39:33 pm
An both bridges fitted ok an she should look good with her gun turrets on when i make them
https://ibb.co/zr0vX4x



(https://i.postimg.cc/9Dh7hqmT/IMG-6463.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9Dh7hqmT)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 26, 2021, 12:40:51 pm
close up of S/S
https://ibb.co/c13dD69
(https://i.postimg.cc/dL1qTs5X/IMG-6468.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dL1qTs5X)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 26, 2021, 12:41:48 pm
shot down the hull
https://ibb.co/bBRNdr5



(https://i.postimg.cc/ctcr1F4n/IMG-6470.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ctcr1F4n)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on August 26, 2021, 12:49:57 pm
Chris,


Up until the Falkland war RN ships had there chains, bollards and capstans painted white after the war they seemed to kept them painted  hull grey 
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 26, 2021, 01:47:54 pm
Chris,


Up until the Falkland war RN ships had there chains, bollards and capstans painted white after the war they seemed to kept them painted  hull grey


OK Dave  thanks for the info
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on August 26, 2021, 02:05:22 pm
HI ALL a few more linkpics of the bow section all now painted up
https://ibb.co/T0mjvLK (https://ibb.co/T0mjvLK)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/08/26/Scan0049.jpg)
Chris, think this image might help in locations of haswe pipes






Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 26, 2021, 06:03:35 pm
HI Bob lovely pic that will help me no end on that front gun turret an any chance on a close up pic of the small 3inch turret ?
chris  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on August 26, 2021, 11:24:09 pm
HI Bob lovely pic that will help me no end on that front gun turret an any chance on a close up pic of the small 3inch turret ?
chris  :-))
Chris hope these are of use, also one of the quarter deck in case you have not done it yet.


Bob

(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/08/26/Scan0070.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/08/26/Tiger-gun-01.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/08/26/Scan0007.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/08/26/Scan0022.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/08/26/Scan0028.jpg)

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on August 27, 2021, 07:23:56 am
Many thanks Bob for the great pics they will help me no end  :-))  you are a very nice gentleman cheers ps cant say i'll get it all on or completetly right but i'll do the best i can  :-))
ATB chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 13, 2021, 07:09:12 am
HI ALL well only small stuff bein worked on at the moment as im trying to get the bridges painted but first i had to fit in the bridges lights white 2mm leds
https://ibb.co/fXzwsDj
(https://i.postimg.cc/JGnXxBr5/IMG-6489.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JGnXxBr5)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 13, 2021, 07:11:37 am
an here all marsked up to be spray painted in grey primer then matt humbroll light grey no 64
https://ibb.co/8Y9t1mH
(https://i.postimg.cc/JDxycRSF/IMG-6490.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JDxycRSF)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 13, 2021, 07:15:03 am
an done an now for the really hard part of fittin in the glazein in the windows as i dont want to get any glue smears on the glass >>:-( <*< <:( if i do
https://ibb.co/ZMZX4Lh
(https://i.postimg.cc/jC8wDdHw/IMG-6492.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jC8wDdHw)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on September 13, 2021, 07:16:21 am
They look good Chris :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 13, 2021, 07:20:57 am
AN Dave made me up some consoles to fit in the bridges an here is my rough attempt at doin it as i dont think they will be seen much but if they are seen more then i will make a better job of them an here  is the console an ive hollowed them all out
https://ibb.co/cCxTsLz (https://ibb.co/cCxTsLz)
(https://i.postimg.cc/gwDc1N4X/IMG-6485.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gwDc1N4X)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 13, 2021, 07:22:16 am
They look good Chris :-))
OH CHEERS Dave an G/M to you sir
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 13, 2021, 07:24:33 am
AN IVE fitted some coloured 2mm leds  stay on an flasing leds in the consoles
https://ibb.co/r6Shwvt
(https://i.postimg.cc/Jtt7d3X0/IMG-6486.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Jtt7d3X0)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 13, 2021, 07:25:23 am
https://ibb.co/H4vcCTF
(https://i.postimg.cc/Fd6vQqSR/IMG-6488.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Fd6vQqSR)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 13, 2021, 07:28:31 am
an im tryin to fit all three consoles Dave T888 made me an so far in done two
an as ive said if seen easy then i will make a better job of them
https://ibb.co/tLqmxkJ
(https://i.postimg.cc/WtQVWBjY/IMG-6491.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WtQVWBjY)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on September 13, 2021, 08:10:34 am
Chris,

Coming along  :-))  if you need any more consoles I have several more as I made a batch for the OHP. They have come out better Due to Iím using a different resin that help with fine detailing.
So if you do just PM me and Iíll post them. :-))

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 14, 2021, 12:32:36 pm
Chris,

Coming along  :-))  if you need any more consoles I have several more as I made a batch for the OHP. They have come out better Due to Iím using a different resin that help with fine detailing.
So if you do just PM me and Iíll post them. :-))


HI Dave cheers  an i have done an many thanks for them
ATB Chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on September 14, 2021, 05:00:35 pm
Chris,
Will put them in the post tomorrow.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 14, 2021, 05:26:33 pm
Chris,
Will put them in the post tomorrow.


OK Dave youre a real gent thanks
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 17, 2021, 06:39:47 pm
HI WELL ive managed to fit in my bridges glass an i was near a nervous wreck after doin it as just a little C/A glue on the glass an it would be a distarter but thankfully its done an i fitted in a light green glass for glazing
https://ibb.co/MZsWHML

(https://i.ibb.co/5G6t3BV/IMG-6493.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 17, 2021, 06:41:34 pm
https://ibb.co/B4g7Cqs

(https://i.ibb.co/gvDXRzg/IMG-6495.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 17, 2021, 06:42:07 pm
https://ibb.co/qR3hHLF

(https://i.ibb.co/fCzZ3VG/IMG-6496.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 17, 2021, 06:43:14 pm
an all bridges  lights goin ok
https://ibb.co/7zV6Phd

(https://i.ibb.co/BPjSbk5/IMG-6497.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on September 17, 2021, 06:51:20 pm
Nice work Chris, can see why you were worried about the glue.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 17, 2021, 07:15:10 pm
Nice work Chris, can see why you were worried about the glue.


HI Dave thanks an yes it was a job trying to fit in the glazeing as just one glue smear an it would have been disarter as the bridge is in my opinion the first thing people look at when the model is on show or at shows an i dint want to heve to rework these bridges an im fairly pleased at how they turn out an just a few tiny cracks to fill up an repaint as they show up terrible in the pics an  the both bridges  will be able to be lifted off the main S/S an parted to fit in crew figures so a job well done i think now got to make a fit the window wipers
chris  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Dreadnought on September 19, 2021, 10:54:31 am
Looks Good!  :-)) :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on September 20, 2021, 07:25:13 pm
I use aircraft canopy glue, dries clear and not as dodgy as suerglue


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 20, 2021, 07:41:08 pm
Looks Good!  :-)) :-))


CHEERS Dreadnought yes im pleased with the way things are goin so far
ATB chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 20, 2021, 07:44:50 pm
I use aircraft canopy glue, dries clear and not as dodgy as suerglue


Bob
AGAIN Cheers for that info Bob an i think ive asked you this before but could you find me a pic of that red an white badge she had on her front funnell if possible Bob  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on September 24, 2021, 12:14:09 pm
She's looking super fair  :-)) :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 25, 2021, 09:39:17 am
She's looking super fair  :-)) :-))


THANKS [size=78%]ballastanksian YES IM NOW GETTING TO THE COMPLEX STAGE OF THE BUILD THE ELETRICS SOON [/size]
[/size][size=78%]chris[/size] :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 25, 2021, 03:32:37 pm
HI ALL well ive managed to fit the consoles to the bridges an this was a very tricky job as i dint want to break the hair thin wires on the leds
https://ibb.co/bzwxfGH

(https://i.ibb.co/r48gWXb/IMG-6655.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 25, 2021, 03:35:13 pm
AN LEDS lit up dint fit many as i dont want to go into overkill an just as well ive made these bridges come apart so i can fit in the crew members
https://ibb.co/9YDXq6C

(https://i.ibb.co/kc7nhjW/IMG-6638.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 25, 2021, 03:35:49 pm
https://ibb.co/WyVdKyp
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 25, 2021, 03:42:32 pm
AN Here im making up the window wipers out of half a mm brass rod an the little devils kept breaking but i made about 30 odd in the end  to fit in
https://ibb.co/Hqq3xVT
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 25, 2021, 03:45:56 pm
AN HERE they are all fitted in an i was nr a nevous wreck after doin this but its all done an its now beggining to look like tiger


https://ibb.co/prmcxW7
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 25, 2021, 03:48:35 pm
https://ibb.co/zn66Jjx

(https://i.ibb.co/PmDDQ3j/IMG-6663.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 25, 2021, 03:49:05 pm
https://ibb.co/GcsrwXp

(https://i.ibb.co/YpDV96Q/IMG-6664.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 25, 2021, 03:51:33 pm
overall shot of the bow section an she's lookin more like the real tiger now
https://ibb.co/Z2VDv6r (https://ibb.co/Z2VDv6r) :-))
chris


(https://i.ibb.co/8Y0ZGDw/IMG-6662.jpg)
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on September 25, 2021, 04:39:14 pm
Wipes came out ok then Chris  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on September 26, 2021, 06:06:05 pm
Wipes came out ok then Chris  :-))


Hello Dave yes they did in the end thought i was goin to have to ask for your assisstant but i stuck at them wipers as the little devils kept breakeing  >>:-( <*< [size=78%]as must[/size][/size][size=78%] have made about 50 or more but got them done in the end [/size] :-)) %) :}
ATB chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 19, 2021, 10:52:55 am
HI ALL well im still building tiger but its been a struggle  >>:-( <*< as had a disaster when i was fitting the radar scanners on the fore mast as i accidently caught my hand on the mast an broke off one of the eletric pickup pins on the plug  >>:-( <*< an i could not beleive it as now the mast lights wont work unless i repair it but to repair it would involve takin the whole mast apart something i dint want to do an boy was i angry at myself as i got to complaclacent an not carefull enough but my wife jen came up an bought me some biccies an a cuppa to calm me down a she said well its broke so we will have to repair it so its just as well i made it to all unscrew an come apart or it would have been a lot of work wasted  anway first linkpic  the  broken plug as there should be 4 pins on the plug not 3 an the one what was broke was the main live + for the red A/C 2mm led's
https://ibb.co/hDpGJFW
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 19, 2021, 11:08:37 am
next pic  looks a bit messy  >>:-( <*< as is here where i was useing a soldering iron to melt the shrink rap so i could get to unsolder  all 4 wires on the old plug an fit a new plug which i did with my wife  jens help as she was holding the mast while i did the soldering an boy was it a heck of a job to do what with takin the mast apart an tryin to fit new plug as its got to meet up with the plug in the main S/S it took 9 hrs from 10am till 7pm  to fix it all an you may say well what the heck was we doin an the answer is the mast is very fragile an i could not get the allen screws out very easy as they had paint in them so had to dig out the paint in a 2mm allen screw in 8  gears an shafts  which is inside the mast frame work to get in the allen key but it all worked out ok in the end but i would not want to go through that again as we was both shattered by 7 pm an loads of cuppas to keep calm
https://ibb.co/5LkHPxW
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 19, 2021, 11:14:13 am
an here is the white steamin or running lights here an yes they are very bright as i want them to show up in day light on the pond so i know which is my ship if there is serveral ships sailing
https://ibb.co/Px1fhpB
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 19, 2021, 11:17:03 am
AN a linkpic of the 2mm red A/C lights on the mast which what would not have worked if i hadnt fixed that eletric  plug


https://ibb.co/LPKxWWS
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 19, 2021, 11:19:35 am
an ive now fitted the nav lights on an again very bright so they can be seen in daylight
https://ibb.co/2jTb5G6
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 19, 2021, 11:23:09 am
AN lastly a couple of shots of the bridge lights an ive still to unsrew the bridges later in the build  so i can fit in the crew members standing in the bridges
https://ibb.co/Jrs20QL


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 19, 2021, 11:24:29 am
https://ibb.co/0fXCJvm :-))
ATB to you all
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on October 19, 2021, 11:47:24 am
Sorry to see the damage hope you can get it all back working soon. All the best  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 19, 2021, 12:19:24 pm
Sorry to see the damage hope you can get it all back working soon. All the best  :-))


HI Dave  all damage  is fixed   an everything is all fixed an working in the pics that show it all so no problems now  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 26, 2021, 10:21:23 am
HI GUYS its me again with some more proggress shots of whats happening on my tiger an now im up to the eletrical stage an ive fitted in the hull jiont the 44 pins plug to carry the accessoriyes wires to work all the lights an all 4 radars an such
the plug below
https://ibb.co/gPmcv6G

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 26, 2021, 10:23:42 am
An a hull jiont shot of the plugs all fitting nicely togeather an im pleased at the fit
https://ibb.co/25cHDVT
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 26, 2021, 10:28:22 am
an just laid out the  asseroryies wires on the front section as these will all have to be cut to size an routed in neatly when ive done an eltrical test of the wires from one end to the other with a circut tester firstly
https://ibb.co/f87WsHC


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 26, 2021, 10:30:02 am
an the stern section of the hull wires 
https://ibb.co/PGY02GY
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 26, 2021, 10:32:56 am
an i was pleased at how easy it was to get the two hull sections togeather an then fastened together with butterfly nuts to hold it togeather
https://ibb.co/7vgBrK8
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 26, 2021, 10:38:02 am
WELL now the hull was togeather for a long time since last time i could not resist fitting on all the S/S to see what ive got after near 3yrs build time so some link pics  :-))
https://ibb.co/rsHs9VZ


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 26, 2021, 10:39:03 am
https://ibb.co/NCBRqGs
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 26, 2021, 10:39:43 am
https://ibb.co/L5bYgrC
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 26, 2021, 10:41:43 am
https://ibb.co/MCwDdnZ
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 26, 2021, 10:43:22 am
https://ibb.co/xH6yGcW (https://ibb.co/xH6yGcW)


AN IVE still to build an fit on the guns turrets
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 26, 2021, 10:43:58 am
https://ibb.co/McvVn1G
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Backerther on October 26, 2021, 01:04:42 pm
Hi frogman3;


I have been so much surprised to see your scratchbuilt HMS Tiger 1/72.!! Looks awesome in every part of the model.!!!! %% O0 :-))
When are you supposed to finish her to get it on the water.!? I am following your posts to come!!
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 26, 2021, 01:32:44 pm
Hi frogman3;


I have been so much surprised to see your scratchbuilt HMS Tiger 1/72.!! Looks awesome in every part of the model.!!!! %% O0 :-))
When are you supposed to finish her to get it on the water.!? I am following your posts to come!!


HI Backearther
its nice to see you found my tiger build then an yes im pleased with how its coming on as i have been building this ship for near 3yrs now started the build in late 2018 an im only now starting to do the eletrics an i also have to build the gun turrets so it will be about another 2 years before she will sail on the water as my NIMITZ  build was 7 years as they take a long time when things are goin to work in them an thank you for your nice comments an yes i hope you do follow the build like i am going to follow your build
BEST WISHES to you sir  :-))  ps im on this site nearly every day so if you want to talk about the models i will be be on some time in the day
chris
chris

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on October 28, 2021, 10:29:04 pm
She gets prettier and prettier! When the turrets g on she will look superb. Very neat and kudos to you and Mrs for the epic wiring marathon!
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 29, 2021, 09:15:30 am
She gets prettier and prettier! When the turrets g on she will look superb. Very neat and kudos to you and Mrs for the epic wiring marathon!


HI [size=78%]ballastanksian  YES she's begining to look good an pretty lol but i think she looks a hansom ship as thats part of the reason i built her.An yes  jen an i ( as she likes to help me if she can ) are now doin the wirein harness for her workings like lights an servos an heicopter an hangar bay an such an ive now fitted in the hull jionts the 44 pin eletric plugs to take the eletric from the bow section to the stern section linkpic below of the stern one [/size]
https://ibb.co/gPmcv6G (https://ibb.co/gPmcv6G)

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 29, 2021, 09:24:08 am
an the hull jionts 44 pins plugs meet up nice  when ive jioned the hull togeather
https://ibb.co/25cHDVT


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 29, 2021, 09:28:27 am
an here the wirein harness is just laid out on the hull to make sure its long enough to go the lenght of the ship bow section an while it was altogeather i did an eletric test with a circut tester to make sure all pins in the plugs will carry eletric an they did as some times there can be a dodgy one
https://ibb.co/f87WsHC
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on October 29, 2021, 09:57:17 am
AN here stern shot of the wierin harness an yes the wires are here in the rainbow colours as i should done the front ones as well but the wires were late in cominin the post so i used the grey wires but no worryies on that as they all carry eletricity an these will all have to be soldered onto the tiny eletric plugs so 88 wires to do (phew)
https://ibb.co/PGY02GY (https://ibb.co/PGY02GY)
chris


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Backerther on November 01, 2021, 11:37:58 am
Hey,Chris. Are you a some kind of electric engineer as to make such a complicated wiring work in the loooong hull.??
I suppose,without this kind of electrical knowledge,it might be so difficult even to figure out the electrical design.. O0 :-)
I do not know any words to express my amazing impression on the system. !! Super Dreadnought class !! :-)) :o
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 01, 2021, 02:58:54 pm
Hey,Chris. Are you a some kind of electric engineer as to make such a complicated wiring work in the loooong hull.??
I suppose,without this kind of electrical knowledge,it might be so difficult even to figure out the electrical design.. O0 :-)
I do not know any words to express my amazing impression on the system. !! Super Dreadnought class !! :-)) :o


HI [/size]Kiyoshi  no im not an eletrical person an im not very good on eletric thing but how can i exsplain this it really just comes out of my mind an  fingers an it all works sort of like magic really perhaps thats what ive been gifted at in my life i dont know but ive wired up all my big ships an just learned as i go along an  all the wires are circuts an jump circuts  but i must be carefull now as im at the complex stage of wireing things up so i must think an plan ahead to make sure i dont make any mistakes but i will post some pics soon when i get all the wireing all soldered onto the mini plugs an im lookng  forward to seeing your build come on as i love to study your pics [/font]BEST WISHES to you Sir [/font]chris [/font]
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 03, 2021, 06:42:34 pm
HI ALL well on the last pics i was just getting the accessories wireing harness ready to put in the ship an its now been put in the hull an ive been on a soldering marthon  of soldering 44 wires to plug sockets in the bow section an again another 44 wires in the stern section so 88 wires soldered all told but my wife jen an i tested them with a 12v current goin through each wire an me with a circut tester to see if the wires carry power ok an well out of 44 wires only one was a problem so thats about 98% succsess so im happy with that but if any more of them rainbow ribbin wires fail as the grey ones are all ok then i will replace the rainbow wires an here in this link pic is the 44 wires goin down into the hull bottom to pass under the battery bay an steam unit an then they split up in to 24 wires on the starb side an 20 wires on the port an here is the bow section from the hull jiont plug
https://ibb.co/ZLmdP1P

chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 03, 2021, 06:45:24 pm
an here is the stern section wires comin from the rear hull jiont plug an the wires again bein split up to go each sides
https://ibb.co/ZBYq9Df


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 03, 2021, 06:50:48 pm
an here is the tiny mini plug sockets that all the wires on both sides will be soldered to an boy was i shattered took me 3 days of soldering to get them all done so 11 plugs in the bow section an the same in  the stern section an in this pic im soldering the wires on an 3 wires done so far
https://ibb.co/YyZkcJ3


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 03, 2021, 06:52:07 pm
bow section plugs sockets
https://ibb.co/9HXV1gd
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 03, 2021, 06:53:57 pm
an stern section plugs sockets
https://ibb.co/cgXDRjf
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 03, 2021, 06:57:13 pm
in this pic its shows  the wires goin down to the sockets an it looks a bit of a mix up of wires at the moment but thats because all the wires havnt been sorted to the points of where they will be goin but that will come soon
https://ibb.co/7rsX8L6


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 03, 2021, 06:59:29 pm
so what next well i wil have to build two of these in the pic but i will exsplain what they do in the next instalment
chris
 :-))
https://ibb.co/2NLgkNV
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 03, 2021, 07:11:58 pm
an somehow i missed posting a shot of the tiny plug sockets but here some are
https://ibb.co/3m8wNk8
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 17, 2021, 07:49:43 am
HI ALL WELL ive been ill for a wk or so but im now back an made a start on fitting some eletronics in the hull as i need to see whats gonna go where an ive got to make up a glass cover to fit over the eletrics so no dampness from the steam unit will get into them
https://ibb.co/jMcQGcy


will post more when i get that far
chris  :-))


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on November 17, 2021, 08:08:17 am
Good to hear your OK Chris  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 17, 2021, 08:18:25 am
Good to hear your OK Chris  :-))


THANKS Dave as its been a wk of hell >>:-( [size=78%] but i think ive got the better of this bug [/size] <*< [size=78%]an i now feel like working on tiger as i cant wait to get back to this build as im at my fav stage of fitting in the eletronics an my head is bursting with ideas so onward an upwards hope you are well  also  Dave [/size]
ATB chris  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Backerther on November 17, 2021, 11:31:45 am
Hi Chris;


Anyhow I have felt relieved to read your post.!! O0
But please don't be careless to the bug until you fully recover from the sickness for your Tiger and a good wife as well.!!! :-))


Kiyo
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 17, 2021, 12:43:05 pm
Hi Chris;


Anyhow I have felt relieved to read your post.!! O0
But please don't be careless to the bug until you fully recover from the sickness for your Tiger and a good wife as well.!!! :-))


Kiyo
HI Kiyo  nice to hear from you an thank you for your concern over my health an no im not hurrying back to the tiger build yet as today im just resting an having just dry toast to eat so that bug wont have nothing to work on in me an we hope you are well also Sir an my wife jen says helo to you an your family
an hope you are havin fun doin your modeling which i have dearly missed all last week an i hope to make a proper start back on tiger on friday as got to go to hospital tomorrow to have my eyes exsaminded as i have a tiny catarak on my left eye so maybe an eye op soon for me as im getting old as near 70 yrs old an yes i feel it lol
best wishes to you Sir
chris an jen
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Backerther on November 17, 2021, 02:03:29 pm
Hi Chris;
Oh,you Too?cataract...?
I already had a surgery of cataract for both eyes just a year ago and the eyes have been working very well since then reaching a vision of 1.2 with eye glasses.The operation time for each eye was around 5 minutes or so net. No scary nor pain.!
My wife is supposed to have the surgery next March,who is nearly the same age as you.
I also have to go to my doctor tomorrow to receive regular checking of the present conditions.
I will go to bed now,good night sir!
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 17, 2021, 03:44:41 pm
Hi Chris;
Oh,you Too?cataract...?
I already had a surgery of cataract for both eyes just a year ago and the eyes have been working very well since then reaching a vision of 1.2 with eye glasses.The operation time for each eye was around 5 minutes or so net. No scary nor pain.!
My wife is supposed to have the surgery next March,who is nearly the same age as you.
I also have to go to my doctor tomorrow to receive regular checking of the present conditions.
I will go to bed now,good night sir!


GOOD NIGHT Kyio i have a chat to you on friday  as im goin to be busy tomorrow
chris

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 18, 2021, 07:35:22 pm
Hi Chris;
Oh,you Too?cataract...?
I already had a surgery of cataract for both eyes just a year ago and the eyes have been working very well since then reaching a vision of 1.2 with eye glasses.The operation time for each eye was around 5 minutes or so net. No scary nor pain.!
My wife is supposed to have the surgery next March,who is nearly the same age as you.
I also have to go to my doctor tomorrow to receive regular checking of the present conditions.
I will go to bed now,good night sir!


HI AGAIN Kiyoshi well on your eye op did they fit in new lens ? as thats what i have to have done when i have my eyes op maybe in a year or so as just been to hosital today
[/size]CHRIS 
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Backerther on November 19, 2021, 06:00:35 am
Hi Chris;


Yes,my both eyes have been replaced with artificial lenses by which I don't need eye glasses normally in a daily life except on a driving a car at night in a rain at strange places.I addition,cost to bear directly at my side was so inexpensive beyond my previous expectation due to health insurance. :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 19, 2021, 04:15:10 pm
Hi Chris;


Yes,my both eyes have been replaced with artificial lenses by which I don't need eye glasses normally in a daily life except on a driving a car at night in a rain at strange places.I addition,cost to bear directly at my side was so inexpensive beyond my previous expectation due to health insurance. :-))
HI  [/size]Kiyoshi  GLAD YOU HAVE HAD YOU EYES DONE WITH LENS LIKE IVE GOT TO HAVE WAS IT PAINFULL TO HAVE DONE AN WAS IT PAINFULL DAY AFTER YOU HAD YOUR OP ?  AS IM NOT THE BRAVEST PERSON [/font]CHRIS [/font]
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Dave_S. on November 19, 2021, 08:23:24 pm
I had my right eye done two weeks ago - no pain, no bother, took about 20 minutes (after a 4 hour wait). I could see much better instantly, the vision improved over the next couple of days and is as good as my other eye now. The day after the operation I was able to drive.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on November 19, 2021, 10:45:47 pm
Medicine today is so advanced! To think that they could do them a couple hundred years ago, but without pain relief or dissolving sutures, so you had to lie still for a fortnight while they healed and avoided sneezing or coughing so the eyes didn't burst  %% 


So Chris, I reckon you really work for NASA given the sheer amount of wiring you have been doing of late. The Shuttle likely had a smaller loom  :}  Great and tidy work matey.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Backerther on November 20, 2021, 03:12:47 am
Hi Chris;


Don't worry so much !!!!
In my case,pure operation time was about 5 or so minutes while and because I was unable to see clearly(very vague) as both eyes had been covered with something like wet paper tissue.Some kind of motions of the doctor's hand could be distinguished to some extent,therefore I understood he was operating my eyes though it's not painful at all due to the effect of anesthesia.
A nurse dropped the anesthesia a bit onto my eyes around 30 minutes before operating.
A doctor and a nurse were waiting in a very tiny operating room and I sat on a reclining chair,and the operation began shortly.
No pain at AAALLL while 5 minutes even after the operation,next day eye guard cover was take off by the doctor followed by simple check. At the same time I could recover VERY CLEAR vision right away surprisingly though a certain restrictions were indicated by the doctor like not to take a bath for some day,not to wash my face,not to drink alcohol,etc by the list.
A week or so later,the eye was nearly good conditions on the operated part which was the very center of the eye.
According to the doctor,2mm or 3mm of the central part was operated.
I suppose and expect you may have been relieved by the above. :-)) O0 {-)

Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 20, 2021, 08:46:27 am
Hi Chris;


Don't worry so much !!!!
In my case,pure operation time was about 5 or so minutes while and because I was unable to see clearly(very vague) as both eyes had been covered with something like wet paper tissue.Some kind of motions of the doctor's hand could be distinguished to some extent,therefore I understood he was operating my eyes though it's not painful at all due to the effect of anesthesia.
A nurse dropped the anesthesia a bit onto my eyes around 30 minutes before operating.
A doctor and a nurse were waiting in a very tiny operating room and I sat on a reclining chair,and the operation began shortly.
No pain at AAALLL while 5 minutes even after the operation,next day eye guard cover was take off by the doctor followed by simple check. At the same time I could recover VERY CLEAR vision right away surprisingly though a certain restrictions were indicated by the doctor like not to take a bath for some day,not to wash my face,not to drink alcohol,etc by the list.
A week or so later,the eye was nearly good conditions on the operated part which was the very center of the eye.
According to the doctor,2mm or 3mm of the central part was operated.
I suppose and expect you may have been relieved by the above. :-)) O0 {-)


HI Kyio MANY THANKS FOR YOU reasurrance  an its now a great weight off my mind so i can conentrate on my tiger as im now trying to build them cam switches X2
[/size]best wishes to you sir
[/size]chris an jen
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 20, 2021, 08:51:25 am
Medicine today is so advanced! To think that they could do them a couple hundred years ago, but without pain relief or dissolving sutures, so you had to lie still for a fortnight while they healed and avoided sneezing or coughing so the eyes didn't burst  %% 


So Chris, I reckon you really work for NASA given the sheer amount of wiring you have been doing of late. The Shuttle likely had a smaller loom  :}  Great and tidy work matey.
HI work for NASA dont i wish  as yes there are a few wires but more to come yet as i love doin wirein
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 20, 2021, 09:23:32 am
HI ALL well im back on my tiger build  an next  in the steps as ive now fitted in the front servo an pushrods to work front stabilizers ive now got to build the cam switch which will work up to 5 things on the ship but on tiger i need to make X2 an it the big red cam as at the moment its still in in the pic in my hms norfolk type 23 frigate F230 so i designed it to just unplug an unscrew an lift out of the hull so thats what im now goin to do shot of the red cam switch
https://ibb.co/8shC7vx
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 20, 2021, 09:29:45 am
an its all ok an came out perfectly so i can copy it as it was built by me 5 yrs ago an i could not rememeber how i done it so now its out i can study it to copy it X2 for my tiger an here side veiw fitted with a full size servo but im hopun to use two micro servos on the new ones just got to see if they will give enough servo throw lenght
https://ibb.co/NYcFvVM


Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 20, 2021, 09:32:43 am
AN TOP VEIW an the multi plug can be seen here an now to start the build of it but will have to have jens help as this is a situaion where i need three hands
chris
https://ibb.co/cLc7Py2
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on November 20, 2021, 11:38:15 am
Medicine today is so advanced! To think that they could do them a couple hundred years ago, but without pain relief or dissolving sutures, so you had to lie still for a fortnight while they healed and avoided sneezing or coughing so the eyes didn't burst  %% 

I had macular holes repaired and boy do you have to sit still for  several weeks, due to the gas injected into the eyes, fully healed and discharged, but then had to fight DVLA to retian my staus as normal driver and not one with a medical condition, in the end my conslultans launched at them and they backed down, so now got my D1 back, amazing the repairs they can do, she allso did cataracts at same time, to save having to come back, liuckily full knoced out for it.


So Chris, I reckon you really work for NASA given the sheer amount of wiring you have been doing of late. The Shuttle likely had a smaller loom  :}  Great and tidy work matey.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on November 20, 2021, 11:41:42 am
AN TOP VEIW an the multi plug can be seen here an now to start the build of it but will have to have jens help as this is a situaion where i need three hands
chris
https://ibb.co/cLc7Py2 (https://ibb.co/cLc7Py2)
Chris have you considered a multi switcher electronic unit for those functions, easily worked from you RC set that you have.


Bob
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on November 20, 2021, 12:47:08 pm
Hi Chris,
Nice to see you back at modelling.




FYI I use this 8way switching unit on Roosevelt, Antrim and Britannic. Its used to switch lights, radar, helo and other bits.It very easy to setup and you can have each switch other latching or not.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 21, 2021, 10:08:13 am
HI Dave that 8way switcher unit from forge eletronics looks a handy item but to get it to work from R/C  do you have to use the main sticks on your R/C ? an can the items that work from it can they be made to work individagabley or all on at on togeather an how much as this is a better idea then my cam switch i think
chris  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 21, 2021, 10:22:07 am
Chris have you considered a multi switcher electronic unit for those functions, easily worked from you RC set that you have.


Bob


AN HI Bob yes i have consiidered an multi switcher unit but the one i was looking at you had to work the switcher from the R/C sticks back an fourth an as you switched on one unit it swiched another off an that i dont want as i want everyhing on if i want not just some thats why ive gone for my cam switcher idea as with this idea i can have just a few thing goin or all an i dont have to touch my R/C sticks at all as its done through the knobs on the R/C T/X
hope you both as best as can be
ATB chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on November 21, 2021, 11:17:52 am
Hi Chris,
Yes I use one of the sticks to operate the 8 way unit. But because it latches I can still use that stick for other operations.
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 21, 2021, 12:15:23 pm
Hi Chris,
Yes I use one of the sticks to operate the 8 way unit. But because it latches I can still use that stick for other operations.


OH well Dave if you got to use the sticks then not for me i think i'll stick with my cam switch idea an as im makin 2 it will give me 10 things to work from the knobs on my T/X so each to his own but thank you for showing me very good of you cheers
ATB chris  :-))
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on November 21, 2021, 12:26:30 pm
Thatís fine Chris :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 21, 2021, 12:33:38 pm
 

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Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 21, 2021, 12:58:51 pm
OK Martin thanks  :-))
chris
Title: Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on November 21, 2021, 01:44:35 pm

AN HI Bob yes i have consiidered an multi switcher unit but the one i was looking at you had to work the switcher from the R/C sticks back an fourth an as you switched on one unit it swiched another off an that i dont want as i want everyhing on if i want not just some thats why ive gone for my cam switcher idea as with this idea i can have just a few thing goin or all an i dont have to touch my R/C sticks at all as its done through the knobs on the R/C T/X
hope you both as best as can be
ATB chris


Chris easy to run from your set, you just use one of the several 3 way switches and you can have as many things running at same time as you like or not as these units can be latching or non latching.
Bob
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 21, 2021, 02:59:08 pm
HI Bob WHAT them 4 switches on the right hand side as im already useing one of those switches to open an close my hanger bay doors so would i need to use all the switches on one o those multi switcher units ?
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on November 21, 2021, 03:04:45 pm
No Chris, a three way switch will control an 8 or 16 multi switcher easily, had it on mine before now and will be using it on Victorious, all you do is set the latches on the items you want, then flick the switch the appropriate number of times till that item comes on, so if you wanted say a water pump to run continuiously and it was item 5, all you do is flick switch 5 times and it will run, turn off flick switch 5 times and off it goes.


Bob
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 21, 2021, 03:14:48 pm
OK Bob thanks for the info but from what i see id be continuasly switchin switches an forget what im doin lol an wont it wear the switch out ?
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on November 21, 2021, 04:49:03 pm
not sure why you would constantly be switching switches though, I use it to turn something on, say nav lights unit is electronic so not much danger of failure the ammout of times it would be used,  horde for courses though, I love em as they are relaible but better still tiny which is a bonus.
Bob
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on November 21, 2021, 05:32:07 pm
Hi Chris,

I know your not keen on using a stick to operate the SW unit , I use the units to turn  on, Radar, nav lights , helo, lighting in several areas and they can be Swtch on or off as required. As the units work on a quick movement of the stick, I still can use the same channel for another standard operation. As Rob said the electronic there is not much danger of failure as they are reliable. Yes as Rob also said ďbut better still tiny which is a bonusĒ.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 21, 2021, 05:32:51 pm
HI AGAIN Bob is this switcher the same one as dave t888 has got in his ship ?
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on November 21, 2021, 10:02:07 pm
HI AGAIN Bob is this switcher the same one as dave t888 has got in his ship ?
chris
mine is from a different maker BUT they are all the same and virtually use the same chip, I also have a 5 ways sound effect switcher which works same way except obviously you only use one sound at a time


Bob
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 21, 2021, 10:09:03 pm
OK BOB CHEERS AN THANKS for the info dosh is tight at the moment but i'll think about it an got a lot on my mind as some numpty >>:-(  has hit my car an cause a fair amount of damage >>:-( <*<  so got to think to get that sorted firstly  O0 
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 28, 2021, 06:28:47 am
HI ALL well im back on my tiger build since bein ill
an the next steps in the build is to build the what i call them  cam switches an as my T/X has two knobs so ive built two lots of cam switches an there is 5 switches on each cam X2 so i can work up to 10 things on tiger seperately one at a time as the cam turns so they all will be on togeather or i can then back up an turn things off as i go
so a linkpic of the cam board an here ive already built one an its all working ok an now im working on cam no.2
https://ibb.co/bJbJKqk
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 28, 2021, 06:35:03 am
AN the cam is just a plastic gear that has been ground down with my dremel ginder so there is a low point on the cam where the switches will be in off postion an then as i turn the  micro servo the cams high point closes the switches so power can flow through them to what ever i want to work an here im now about to drill the hole in the base to allow the micro servo to sit down propebrly an be screwed in place
https://ibb.co/Jj40C78


Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 28, 2021, 06:36:20 am
https://ibb.co/Tm8hCB3
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 28, 2021, 06:40:05 am
an here ive just now fitting the switches mounting to be glued in place next to the servos an ive found this is a very good idea an never had any probs with it


https://ibb.co/SQB8hsV


Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on November 28, 2021, 06:43:53 am
Hi Chris,


Good to see your felling better  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 28, 2021, 06:45:42 am
an both cams switches built an ive also fitted the front servo to work the front set of stabillizers an they work perfectly  in tandem with the rudder an 4  rear stabilzers :-))
 https://ibb.co/2YW7nMb (https://ibb.co/2YW7nMb)



(https://i.ibb.co/R4Ypv65/IMG-6839.jpg)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 28, 2021, 06:51:49 am
Hi Chris,


Good to see your felling better  :-))
HI Dave cheers yes its great to feel better as i had my booster  C   jab an a flu jab both at the same time an talk about feel ill thought i was goin to die an i lost a stone in wheight in just a week never want to go through that again
an hope you are well
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 28, 2021, 06:58:54 am
HERE a shot of what i have now in the bow section an its a bow thruster an esc an then the stabs servo an then the twin cam unit an then the main eletrics board an then the steam unit an then the main power batt  but cant do any more wireing now till i wait for my   mini choc block connecters to arrive in post from ebay
https://ibb.co/K7tDjxP


(https://i.ibb.co/S0kcXwj/IMG-6837.jpg)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 28, 2021, 07:04:10 am
AN Here ive made up a glass cover to keep out any dampness from the steam unit that could get into the eletrics an now the fun bit starts an thats wirein it all up so no more pics for a few months till its all goin as i dont want to bore you all with just pics of all the wirein so till then bye for now
chris
https://ibb.co/McGY5Gz

(https://i.ibb.co/Stdh7dk/IMG-6836.jpg)


Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on November 28, 2021, 07:53:48 am
Chris,


We had the flue jab about a month ago and the booster last week, I was fine but the wife had a few days of felling rough. But all good now.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 28, 2021, 09:56:00 am
Chris,


We had the flue jab about a month ago and the booster last week, I was fine but the wife had a few days of felling rough. But all good now.
HI Dave glad you both ok  :-)) [size=78%]now but why i was ill i think anyhow was i had both jabs at the same time an was proberly to much for my ststem as my wife jen jen had the flu jab an then the  C/ booster a couple of wks later an she had no probs [/size]
[size=78%]an Dave a qeustion please on that power distrobuion board as im not useing the BECC can i still use that U-BEK unit to feed something that reqiures just 5v ? or will it damage the PDB board ?[/size]
[size=78%]chris[/size]
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on November 28, 2021, 10:07:42 am
Yes Chris I use the UBEc to power the lighting and the Helicopter on Roosevelt. BUT Donít over load it by running high amp items.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 28, 2021, 10:14:48 am
Yes Chris I use the UBEc to power the lighting and the Helicopter on Roosevelt. BUT Donít over load it by running high amp items.
NO Dave there will be no high amps units in the bow section they are in the back section on the motors so on that 3 pin sockect i just use the postitive an neg ? yea ?
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on November 28, 2021, 12:54:58 pm
Correct Chris.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 28, 2021, 06:05:31 pm
thanks for that Dave cheers
chris  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on November 30, 2021, 09:08:14 pm
Looking forward to seeing you on the other side of the wiring marathon. Good luck  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on November 30, 2021, 09:22:35 pm
Looking forward to seeing you on the other side of the wiring marathon. Good luck  :-))
[/quote)


HI [size=78%]ballastanksian  youre not the only one either as ive got a fair idea of what wires will go where but as ive numbered them it should be quite easy but the main problem is just remembering what ive got to get working an hope i have enough channels to work everthing hopefully i will have more than enough but to morrow im gonna have to write out a list of whats gonna work an i had a lot more hair when i started this build lol but it will come just got to concentrate on whats what an take my time but i only hope i can get the wireing done before they call me into hospital as i have to have eye op an have new lences fitted an not looking forward to that but better than being blind [/size]
[size=78%]chris [/size] :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on December 01, 2021, 06:30:15 pm
Good luck with the 'Mince Pies'. Wishing you a speedy recovery to shipbuilding status.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 01, 2021, 06:40:46 pm
Good luck with the 'Mince Pies'. Wishing you a speedy recovery to shipbuilding status.


CHEERS [size=78%]ballastanksian AN YES i hope my mince pices or eyes turn out ok as ive gone to town today on this wirein an its taken my 7 hrs to wirein the hanger bay an thats 12 wires into 3  mini plugs with 4 wires each  but the time just flys by so fast had a shock when jen bought me up a cuppa an some bicceis so more tomorrow [/size]
[size=78%]thanks for your nice comments [/size] :-))
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on December 02, 2021, 06:56:03 am
Keep with it Chris, when I built my HMS Clyde back in 2013-14 I put about 25meter of wiring in her. Tiger must be well past that now ? :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 02, 2021, 07:07:29 am
Keep with it Chris, when I built my HMS Clyde back in 2013-14 I put about 25meter of wiring in her. Tiger must be well past that now ? :-))
G/M Dave yes im stickin in on the build an wirein an yes there is a fair amount of wirein but still a bit more to go in as i want plenty of things working an ive made a start in the stern section on the hanger bay doors open an closeing an the flood light leds as these were the easyist to wire up for a start as i want to get in some practice before that bow section as thats gonna be the killer an i will have to think things through at that end as some wires will be doubled up so it will work things in the stern stern section but steady as she goes on the wireing a try it out before movin to the next lot of wires
ATB Dave
chris  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 04, 2021, 09:32:10 pm



HI ALL well operation wirein is not goin well as i can safely say that all the wirein i have fitted in the front section is correct so farbut the accessory's coloured ribbion wires have let me down as they are quite thin only about 4 strand wire an so far 3 have failed  <:( <*< <*< [size=78%]as they are quite fragile so that main hull jiont plug has to come out an be scrapped an also ive did some more tests with the circut tester an to my amazement ive found out ive made a b*lls up [/size] >>:-( <*< [size=78%]as these mini plugs can only fit one way round as i wired them up in the same order as the front an again to my amazement this is wrong as they should have been wired in revese of what ive done as when i fit the mini plugs in they all wires come up in the wrong order lord knows how i made this mistake but they will all have to come out an be scrapped[/size]
SO its now one step forward an two steps back but its just as well i did the testing or i might have damaged the R/X an thats 40 pounds worth so thats something gone right but as lately i have not been in a good frame of mind but i cant set about putting things right untill i get a new 44 pin male D-connector to solder all the new wires in so tiger is on hold untill it comes an myself i think what a plonker to have done this but i must admit ive never used these mini plugs before as i used chock block connenters in all my other ships but in my eyes no exsuce but it will all get sorted just gonna take a lot more time
chris the plonker lol >>:-( <*< <:(
https://ibb.co/cgXDRjf (https://ibb.co/cgXDRjf)


Reply (https://www.scale-models.co.uk/threads/boatmans-1-72-hms-tiger-c20-build.32576/reply?quote=588897)

Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on December 05, 2021, 10:14:29 am
Sorry the hear this, hope you get it sorted out with min cost and rework :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on December 05, 2021, 10:38:17 am
thinking back to our email Chris, I am glad its not just me with wiring problems, although nearly all done and she looks great, once the distribution board is in will post pictures.
Take a deep breath and think, the car, your illness now this thats Decembers block of three out of the way.
Bob
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 05, 2021, 06:18:38 pm
Sorry the hear this, hope you get it sorted out with min cost and rework :-))
CHEERS Dave  :-))
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 05, 2021, 06:24:05 pm
thinking back to our email Chris, I am glad its not just me with wiring problems, although nearly all done and she looks great, once the distribution board is in will post pictures.
Take a deep breath and think, the car, your illness now this thats Decembers block of three out of the way.
Bob
HI Bob  yes they say things come in three's  an looking forward to seeing your ship with the pdb in an hope to sort out my wireing prob soon
chris :-)) [size=78%] [/size]
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 06, 2021, 09:18:01 pm
HI GUYS well just a little up date on doin the wirein well i thought its goin great as ive so far been working in the bow section an wired up the nav lights an the white mast running or steamin light which ever well i was on a roll today only to be again let down by some new plugs an sockests wel i found that after soldering on the wires for the above that when i tried to seperate the plug they just fell apart why must things be made of cr*p nowa days Aaaaaaaacccccchhhhhh[/size]
THE PLUG an socket
https://ibb.co/1d9KzrP[/size]
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 06, 2021, 09:19:51 pm
AN the nav light an mast white running lights an yes they are bright as i want them to show up in daylight
https://ibb.co/Xp6TqqD
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 06, 2021, 09:22:44 pm
an i tried to super glue the plug to together but now it wont fit so in the morning
i will have to cut this off an refit my old style plugs an sockets
https://ibb.co/pJMCN59
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 06, 2021, 09:25:18 pm
anyone know where i can get more of these ? as im running short of them
https://ibb.co/8BsKL0Y  an they are called modular connecters <:(
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on December 06, 2021, 10:10:46 pm
Chris,


Any good [size=78%]https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183516399412 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183516399412)[/size]
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on December 06, 2021, 11:42:12 pm
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/12/06/Image.jpg)
Trey these Chris, all screw connections and very strong


Bob
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 07, 2021, 10:23:07 am
Chris,


Any good [size=78%]https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183516399412 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183516399412)[/size]


HI Dave these are spot on what i wanted many thanks :-))  for finding them an ive now ordered some  male  an female connectors
cheers you have done your good deed for the day an you can pat yourself on the back lol 
chris ps hopefully when these come i can get this wireing off to a good start as these are very handy to fit in if you want to be able to remove the said unit's
 
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 07, 2021, 10:28:51 am
HI Bob  many thanks to you also for finding these connectors up but ive seen these an the are a bit to big for my perpose  but cheers all the same all best to you an hope your wireing is goin better than mine lol
chris
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2021/12/06/Image.jpg)
Trey these Chris, all screw connections and very strong


Bob
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on December 07, 2021, 11:45:16 am
Thatís Ok Chris, more than happy to help you out, I know you sometime have issue with your PC. :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 07, 2021, 06:20:46 pm


HI ALL well i cut off the ole crap plug an into the bin with it an useing the plug sockets in pic that dave has found as i had a few to use  i have today managed to get working


no.1 nav lights an white running mast lights


no.2 bridge lights


no. 3 6 x 2mm red anti collishin leds on front mast


no. 4 front mast twin radars all goin

no. 5 cant do this till i rewire the stern section but it will be the rear main radars
an that the first cam switch  used up so all other things that will work will go on the other cam switch

so some good news at last an tomorrow i will spend time fittting on the wires cable ties to get the wireing all nice an neat an fit in a small chock block connector to take all the reaturn negative wires so hope fully im back on track


ATB chris

Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 09, 2021, 06:44:20 am
HI GUYS yes the wirein as been  a right  PITA but im back on track for the bow section anyway useing my old plugs ive just jury rigged all the main bridge section so every thing works on that from R/C T/X so im pleased an today i will wire it in better but first some pics here the PDB board an i was brickin it when i turned it on in case of a prob as this was fairly costly unit but it all lit up just how its suppoced too phew as this unit powers all the lights in the main  bridge S/S an all other lights in the ship  so far ive only used one power terminal so another 3 still to use an the 5 v ubek unit
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Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 09, 2021, 06:52:42 am
here a shot of the new plug fitted on so i can remove the cam switches if i need too an the other cam switch will have the same plugs fitted thanks to
( Dave T888) for finding them for me on ebay as i looked an could not find them so Dave cheers from me  :-)) an the plug is just lightly laid together but will go right home when im ready to use it  an the last pin has not had a wire soldered on yet as this will go to feed the rear radar motor but its only a 3v motor bein fed by a 12v down to 3v voltage reducer so this pin may be a a 12v but im gonna try it on 6v an see how it goes but cant do any more on that till i get all the wirein sorted an im still waiting for that 44 pin plug then when that comes i can get stuck into it an get it sorted
https://ibb.co/tmCDGss (https://ibb.co/tmCDGss)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 09, 2021, 06:55:16 am
here in this pic im now switching it all on  from my R/C T/X an so far nav lights an bridge lights
https://ibb.co/N3rHrj0 (https://ibb.co/N3rHrj0)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 09, 2021, 06:58:51 am
BETTER shot of bridge lights but later on i will remove the two bridges an fit in bridge crew members  an yes they are bright but i want them to be seen in daylight
https://ibb.co/VS1v3wn (https://ibb.co/VS1v3wn)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 09, 2021, 07:02:20 am
here a shot of nr everything goin from R/C on just the main bridge S/S
https://ibb.co/yy0GPVT (https://ibb.co/yy0GPVT)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 09, 2021, 07:06:24 am
AN a good shot of the red 2mm A/C lights an both radars are goin pity i could not fit on a vid
https://ibb.co/MSVwZm9 :-))
chris


(https://i.ibb.co/8s5vNHX/IMG-6849.jpg)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on December 09, 2021, 07:21:09 am
Chris,


Pleased to help, also glad the new connectors have arrived and are working.


Light look great :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 09, 2021, 07:31:49 am
Chris,


Pleased to help, also glad the new connectors have arrived and are working.


Light look great :-))


G/M Dave  sorry if i gave the wrong impression on the connectors as these ones are still my old one that i have enough to just use on the cam switches but the ones you found hav'nt come yet  but im really pleased that you found them as i could not get them anywhere as used to get them from maplins but now they have gone well i was getting desprate to find some more as these are very tiny but they will carry 12v with ease an very handy to just unplug an remove the unit should the need arise as it sometimes does
have a nice day Dave cheers
ATB chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on December 09, 2021, 12:59:04 pm
Looking good now Chris, wiring is a pig at times. Nice to see you use Layouts as well brilliant service.  To answer your question on Vic, yes red bridge lights, nav, radar (going to be a right pig to build), fogohorn, action stations alrm and poss smoke gen


Bob
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 09, 2021, 02:32:07 pm
Looking good now Chris, wiring is a pig at times. Nice to see you use Layouts as well brilliant service.  To answer your question on Vic, yes red bridge lights, nav, radar (going to be a right pig to build), fogohorn, action stations alrm and poss smoke gen


Bob
HI Bob  yes wireing can get you some times especially  as i made a right b*lls up on my rear section wireing but its let me down by breaking at the hull jiont plug so got to all come out an be reworked  but i keep it all in my head as  a boaty freind came over the other day sayin he wants to buy her when im ready to let her go an saying that i ought to do wireing dioagrams but if i did that i d never get an work done on her as for me its one circut at a time that way you know what wires got to go where an feed whats what an did i see you say in your ship that you got it down to a dozen wires as if you are goin to fit all that in what you said above it will take more wires than that as my steam unit has got about 6 wires on it an thats just one unit but i really hope you do fit all this workin features in her as that brings the model to life  :-))  a
n yes that layouts shop is brilliant as jen phones them up for me an i pay by card an sometimes what i oredered is here the very nxt day they are very good an i'll use them again if i need to  :-))
ATB
Chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 16, 2021, 09:04:20 am
HI ALL well ive fitted in the R/X at the bow an it can be lifted out an easy to get to
https://ibb.co/w4YLvw9


Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 16, 2021, 09:07:09 am
AN Here ive made up a gaget to start the steam unit goin from R/C via my T/X
AN THE SMALL RED CAM will work both sets of cooling fans also by micro servo
https://ibb.co/M2jLqFN

Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 16, 2021, 09:08:26 am
shot here of all the cam switches
https://ibb.co/60cddxH
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 16, 2021, 09:09:37 am
most of the gadgets layouts
https://ibb.co/2N052Vh
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 16, 2021, 09:10:15 am
https://ibb.co/Lg8wpsG
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 16, 2021, 09:14:20 am
an here all the bow section all powered up an working from my T/X an the steam unit works ok but it was only on a few seconds but will blow steam higher when its is running longer its just that i dint want to get steam all over the ship but when its sailing the wind will blow it away
https://ibb.co/M1B9Hj3
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 16, 2021, 09:14:55 am
https://ibb.co/tByLwdd
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 16, 2021, 09:17:51 am
an last shot today of the cover as when steam unit working i dint want dampness to get into the eletrics an so far no steam globulues have drop onto the cover but this is just in case there are some
 :-)) https://ibb.co/dGrzSkp (https://ibb.co/dGrzSkp)
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Dreadnought on December 16, 2021, 09:38:27 am
Looking great  :-)) :-))
Like a telephone exchange lol   ok2 ok2
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 16, 2021, 02:41:30 pm
Looking great  :-)) :-))
Like a telephone exchange lol   ok2 ok2


HI Dreadnought yes there are a few wires ae'nt there  %) O0 :-)) but so far it all works
 :-)) chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on December 16, 2021, 10:43:40 pm
Great stuff there matey! I am glad you know what's going on. I reckon NASA will be calling you for advice on wiring probes etc :)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 17, 2021, 12:12:06 pm
Great stuff there matey! I am glad you know what's going on. I reckon NASA will be calling you for advice on wiring probes etc :)


COR great that would be to get the wages they pay id be more than happy to rig up a circut or two lol
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on December 18, 2021, 09:36:39 am
HI ALL well thats that right hand cam switch all wired up  so looking down on it the left cam switch is for all the 6v units in the front mainly but some wires will double up an go through to the stern section an the right hand cam switch is all 12v wireing  through to the stern section mostly to fit on to other voltage reducers such as 12v -9v -6v -5V -3V AN 12v to 24v if i decide to fit another steam unit in the stern section for the rear funnel but that will be thought of in the new yr all that remain to do in the bow section is to fit in the  LEDS voltage checkers AN the wireing exstions to reach the r/x fitted in the bow
chris  :-))  an ive now got the main 44 pins plug so i can put all that stern section wirein to rights as the wirein i have fitted has failed on the hull jiont plug an broke so its all got to come out an be rewired but that will be after my eye op as they have had a concelalion so they are goin to op on my eye on dec 23 so no tiger work for a bit just got to hope things go ok
https://ibb.co/KN03BF0
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 04, 2022, 08:12:24 am
HI all well cant do much on tiger for a week or so as had an eye operation to remove a caterack an have a new plastic lens  fitted just before xmas but when my eye is better then the build will be back on the go meanwhile im bored stiff from watching the junk on the telly
happy new year all
chris  <:(
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: derekwarner on January 04, 2022, 08:51:22 am
oouuch... <*<  it sounds painful Chris......take care & we will look forward to the recommencement of work in a few weeks


Compliments of the Season to you from OZ


Derek
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 04, 2022, 09:01:41 am
oouuch... <*<  it sounds painful Chris......take care & we will look forward to the recommencement of work in a few weeks


Compliments of the Season to you from OZ


Derek


HI Derek an thanks for the good wishes an no not painfull just stings abit when my wife jen puts in two lots of  eye drops three times a day an will have to phone hos an ask how long ive got to keep puttin in them eye drops as no one said in hos or i missed it but jen said she never heard anything about it either
ATB TO YOU SIR
chris an jen
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Dave_S. on January 04, 2022, 10:35:32 am

HI Derek an thanks for the good wishes an no not painfull just stings abit when my wife jen puts in two lots of  eye drops three times a day an will have to phone hos an ask how long ive got to keep puttin in them eye drops as no one said in hos or i missed it but jen said she never heard anything about it either
ATB TO YOU SIR
chris an jen


I had mine done last November  I was on two drops (but a different two every other time) eight times a day for 4 weeks. Had to keep a chart to make sure I didn't miss any, but not everyone's eyes are the same, I had to have a retina reattached earlier in the year and have had uveitis (inflammation inside the eye) for 7 or 8 years, so I think most of my eye drops were to suppress any reaction from them after the cataract op.
I can certainly see a lot better since the op though, definitely worth it.

Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Backerther on January 04, 2022, 10:58:46 am
Hi Chris;
I spent a month to get into my normal life according to a chart supplied by the doctor,that showed when to be available
for watching TV,washing a face,driving a car,etc....final was the swimming to wait longer than one month.


Follow the instructions by chart and the doctor in charge precisely as you do on your model ship builds.!! :-)) O0


Kiyo
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 04, 2022, 11:08:17 am
HI Guys many thanks for your replys  so ive got to stick it longer then oh well its for the best i suppose as dont want any infections or anything to go wrong
cheers guys
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on January 04, 2022, 01:08:35 pm
Chris as I had my cataracts sorted while under full aneshetic for the hole in eye to be repaired, my recovery was a lot longer at three months, but at least it was all done at once thankfully, then a year later same op different eye, but all sorted and passed DVLA test for D1 licence with a score of 100%, just got to take time.


Bob
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 04, 2022, 01:11:41 pm
Chris as I had my cataracts sorted while under full aneshetic for the hole in eye to be repaired, my recovery was a lot longer at three months, but at least it was all done at once thankfully, then a year later same op different eye, but all sorted and passed DVLA test for D1 licence with a score of 100%, just got to take time.


Bob


CHEERS Bob i wonder if i will have to have a test ? as i can see lovley
CHRIS
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on January 06, 2022, 03:40:56 pm
Chris if it was only one eye operated on for cataracts, you do not have to report, mine was more serious as it was a hole in the eye and as I wanted a D1 licence back I had to do the extra test.
Thought you might like this shot


Bob
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2022/01/06/IMG_1452.jpg)

Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 06, 2022, 05:41:12 pm
Chris if it was only one eye operated on for cataracts, you do not have to report, mine was more serious as it was a hole in the eye and as I wanted a D1 licence back I had to do the extra test.
Thought you might like this shot


Bob


HI BOB YES ONE EYE ONLY an cheers for the pic it will all help me on the build
chris
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2022/01/06/IMG_1452.jpg)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 26, 2022, 09:09:22 am
HI ALL  well i went to see the opticain yesterday for her to check my eye after eye op an ive been given the thumbs up so im now restarting on tiger build hooray as been bored stiff over xmas an all this month so if all goes well will post some linkpics on soon on the tiger build  :-))
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Backerther on January 26, 2022, 12:58:11 pm
Hi Chris;


Congratulations for a good result on your eye operation.!!
But you had better restart  slowly your build of Tiger in early stage for your eye. :-))


Kiyo
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on January 26, 2022, 02:30:54 pm
Good news Chris, looking at last photo I sent the frame work on theStarboard hangar door is not something you need to worry about, its all thats left from boarding it up after the door was removed to be fitted on Blake


Bob
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Dan on January 26, 2022, 09:16:14 pm
Glad to see you've had the go ahead from the optician Chris! Looking forward to seeing your progress with Tiger now over the coming weeks!
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 26, 2022, 09:41:56 pm
Hi Chris;


Congratulations for a good result on your eye operation.!!
But you had better restart  slowly your build of Tiger in early stage for your eye. :-))


Kiyo
HI Kiyo  many thanks for your kind comments an yes im still takin it easy but we have jen an i been working on tiger as jen has been soldering some wires for me as i told her what to do an how an she's enjoying doin it as she was smiling happy after she did the slodering as she said it makes a change  from her jewleyaery makein eg . necklaces an earing 's so may have a new apprentice lol  hope you are well
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 26, 2022, 09:47:44 pm
Good news Chris, looking at last photo I sent the frame work on theStarboard hangar door is not something you need to worry about, its all thats left from boarding it up after the door was removed to be fitted on Blake


Bob
HI Bob cheers an yes i thought it was that but dint know they nicked the door to but on blake poor tiger an hope you both as well as can be same as us
ATB TO YOU AN YOUR WIFE
chris an jen

Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 26, 2022, 10:01:51 pm
Glad to see you've had the go ahead from the optician Chris! Looking forward to seeing your progress with Tiger now over the coming weeks!
AN HI Dan yes its all systems go on tiger but ive still got to take it easy for another two wks or so but will put on some linkpics soon  so jen has been doin some soldering for me after i just told her witch wire goes where an solder this wire to that an she is enjoyin it may have a new apprentice lol  how things goin
on your type 22 eh ?
ATB TO YOU
chris jen  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Dan on January 27, 2022, 10:40:24 am
AN HI Dan yes its all systems go on tiger but ive still got to take it easy for another two wks or so but will put on some linkpics soon  so jen has been doin some soldering for me after i just told her witch wire goes where an solder this wire to that an she is enjoyin it may have a new apprentice lol  how things goin
on your type 22 eh ?
ATB TO YOU
chris jen  :-))


That's awefully good of her, I'm sure.shes doing a great job!
There's slow progress on the type 22. Doesn't look much different, but I'm slowly working my way through fitting the stanchions and fittings. I haven't put any photos up because at the moment it doesn't look much different. But I'm hoping to have it completed by early April... Ready for the next build

Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 27, 2022, 01:02:08 pm

That's awefully good of her, I'm sure.shes doing a great job!
There's slow progress on the type 22. Doesn't look much different, but I'm slowly working my way through fitting the stanchions and fittings. I haven't put any photos up because at the moment it doesn't look much different. But I'm hoping to have it completed by early April... Ready for the next build
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HI DAN  yes she's a good wife certainly picked the right one an dont mean to be nosey but are you married yet ?  an ok its slow goin on the 22  but you will get it done as you are doin a very nice job of her an exscuse me for asking but whats the next build ?
ATB CHRIS
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Dan on January 27, 2022, 01:45:33 pm
Not nosey at all mate, I'm not married yet, but do live and have a young baby with my partner Shannen. She's tolerates the models.. just  :embarrassed: 


I've narrowed it down to two. HMS Invincible in 1:96, or HMS Tyne in 1:48. I was originally planning on doing something 1:72nd scale, but Invincible at 1:96 is just over 200cm, plenty big enough for me, and it'll match the scale of the type 22 when it's done. Id have to do it in two halves though for transport purposes. Something I'll be re-reading on your build threads when the time comes  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 27, 2022, 04:14:10 pm
Not nosey at all mate, I'm not married yet, but do live and have a young baby with my partner Shannen. She's tolerates the models.. just  :embarrassed: 


I've narrowed it down to two. HMS Invincible in 1:96, or HMS Tyne in 1:48. I was originally planning on doing something 1:72nd scale, but Invincible at 1:96 is just over 200cm, plenty big enough for me, and it'll match the scale of the type 22 when it's done. Id have to do it in two halves though for transport purposes. Something I'll be re-reading on your build threads when the time comes  :-))
SORRY Dan dint mean to embarrareses you but good on you havin a good lady an a youngster very well done an after tiger im thinking of doin hms clyide in 1/48 scale with grp hull an with a chopper on as ive never built in 1/48th before an that will be my very last model as be to old to do any more an yes ivincable in 1/96 is a fanstatic model an if you do want to do a split hull i'll be only to pleased to help you do it  but you must have an upright bench drill cos without that you wont be able to drill the hull jiont holes accruatly an if its not accrute then it will not fit togeather got mine from B/Q about 40 quid but very handy as ive used mine no end of times anyway you three all
 stay safe an well
ATB
Chris an jen
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on January 27, 2022, 04:36:09 pm
Hi Chris,


Nice to see you back online, hope the eyes are working at 20/20


If you do make HMS Clyde I can help you out , as I made Clyde base on SIRMAR GRE Hull back in 2013/14, my build was published in Model Boats mag.


Hope you donít mind me posting a pic of on this thread.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 27, 2022, 06:11:22 pm
Hi Chris,


Nice to see you back online, hope the eyes are working at 20/20


If you do make HMS Clyde I can help you out , as I made Clyde base on SIRMAR GRE Hull back in 2013/14, my build was published in Model Boats mag.


Hope you donít mind me posting a pic of on this thread.


HI Dave  nice to see you on here again an hope you are well an no i dont mind the pic as she looks great an yes please for some help very kind of you as its in a big scale i want to make loads of stuff work on her do you know the price of the hull in 1/48th scale ?  then we are two of a kind as dave wooley done a five page write up an pics of my nimitz in model boats an i was very pleased still got the mag it was feb 2015 an to my amazement the mag has got your clyde on the front cover  as i am now looking at it an my nimitz is inside as well as a 3 page featuer on your clyde very well done but fancy both our ships bein in there at the same time  wow
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Dan on January 27, 2022, 10:09:44 pm
SORRY Dan dint mean to embarrareses you but good on you havin a good lady an a youngster very well done an after tiger im thinking of doin hms clyide in 1/48 scale with grp hull an with a chopper on as ive never built in 1/48th before an that will be my very last model as be to old to do any more an yes ivincable in 1/96 is a fanstatic model an if you do want to do a split hull i'll be only to pleased to help you do it  but you must have an upright bench drill cos without that you wont be able to drill the hull jiont holes accruatly an if its not accrute then it will not fit togeather got mine from B/Q about 40 quid but very handy as ive used mine no end of times anyway you three all
 stay safe an well
ATB
Chris an jen


No embarresment on my side Chris  :-)  I do take alot of infor from your threads, they're very useful/helpful. So the sooner you carry on with Tiger, the better for me  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 27, 2022, 10:33:57 pm

No embarresment on my side Chris  :-)  I do take alot of infor from your threads, they're very useful/helpful. So the sooner you carry on with Tiger, the better for me  :-))


HI Dan im glad my threads are usefull to you an glad to think im helping you thats how it should be in this hatefull world an yes tiger is now being worked on but its the wireing that bein done now so i hope you like wireing Dan
chris / jen
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 31, 2022, 05:17:16 am
PART TWO  OF TIGER BUILD  :-))
Well im back on tiger build after eye op but takin it easy an my wife jen is helping me
an as i had wireing failure on the first attempt ive reworked all 44 wires in the D-connector with stronger wires an this was just before my eye op

but its all done an had just two wires get conneckted togeather by solder when wireing the H/J plug so ive turned them too one wire to carry power an here the new wires just laid out so ready to begin again when my eye is better
https://ibb.co/82VGVL0

Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 31, 2022, 05:25:16 am
So next i thought id wire in the sound whooper as i  made this ready months ago an so i dont strain my eye doin fiddley soldering as jen has done some for me to see me through till i can do it
so here is the unit laid out ready to fit an spk
https://ibb.co/YZkBFdg



(https://i.ibb.co/L5tdXgK/IMG-6889.jpg)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 31, 2022, 05:27:55 am
AN here spk installed an wired up by a simple plug in system
https://ibb.co/GPGxXy5
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 31, 2022, 05:30:00 am
an spk back plate all screwed down to hold it in place in sound box
https://ibb.co/8b49Qc0



(https://i.ibb.co/VxpTkmt/IMG-6891.jpg)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 31, 2022, 05:35:38 am
now here the deck is fitted back in place so the sound unit can be installed an it is now just waiting for  the top cover to be fitted but i will show that next time as better rest my eye but all the deck edges will be repainted to smarten it up later
chris  :-))
https://ibb.co/ns75RRM

(https://i.ibb.co/3ypLkkm/IMG-6892.jpg)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on January 31, 2022, 06:15:21 am
Good to see you back Chris :-))


Jennís done some nice wiring & soldering
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 31, 2022, 06:27:39 am
Good to see you back Chris :-))


Jennís done some nice wiring & soldering


G/M Dave did you see what i said about our ship models both bein in models boats mag at the same time ?
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on January 31, 2022, 06:45:22 am
Sorry, yes I did, itís a small world  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 31, 2022, 06:49:49 am
Sorry, yes I did, itís a small world  :-))


HI Again Dave CAN YOU REMEMBER how much that cylde hull in 1/48 th cost  ?an was it from sirmar ? or fleetscale ?
chris :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on January 31, 2022, 07:19:48 am
Chris,

I got it from Barry at SIRMAR, which was returned to them, and the price was adjusted for that. (I was very pleased with there GRE hull) The damage was so minor  and the reason for the Swedish customer rejection of the hull, was just a bit of damage to the jell coat and any modeller could have repaired it. Anyway my luck, the cost back in 2011 was £135.

Be aware Chris the drawings for Clyde that are now sold by Trinity have sky rocketed in cost.
Fleetscale hull is a 1/96 scale and they donít do a 1/48 scale version.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 31, 2022, 07:28:19 am
Chris,

I got it from Barry at SIRMAR, which was returned to them, and the price was adjusted for that. (I was very pleased with there GRE hull) The damage was so minor  and the reason for the Swedish customer rejection of the hull, was just a bit of damage to the jell coat and any modeller could have repaired it. Anyway my luck, the cost back in 2011 was £135.

Be aware Chris the drawings for Clyde that are now sold by Trinity have sky rocketed in cost.
Fleetscale hull is a 1/96 scale and they donít do a 1/48 scale version.


HI again Dave  many thanks for info on clyde so if i did get the 148 th hull  then ive got too buy the plans at 1/96 th an then have them blown up to 1/48th scale oh yes exspesive then dont jecobin do them in 1/48th or are they now this trinty ?
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on January 31, 2022, 07:38:41 am
Chris,


Thats what I did, Jecobin 1/96-1/48 plans are now supplied by Trinity, I assume Fleetscale 1/96 plans are Jecobin (but F/S hull is of the Batch 1 shaped hulls) that again are now from Trinity. But talk to Jason at Fleetscale, he will be able to say if there plan is there own or is a Jecobin plan.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 31, 2022, 07:55:12 am
WELL Dave thats if i do build this ship as gettin old now an by the time i finish tiger i may be to old or infirm to build again but if im ok then i will do how i did on tigers plans  contact jecobin -trinty an ask them to blow up the 1/96 plans to 1/48yth scale for me yes exspensive but this modeling lark is getting very costly but if you want to build the model then its PAY PAY is'nt it or pack up altogether only other option an i dont want to do that
chris  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on January 31, 2022, 10:30:24 am
Chris,


Thats what I did, Jecobin 1/96-1/48 plans are now supplied by Trinity, I assume Fleetscale 1/96 plans are Jecobin (but F/S hull is of the Batch 1 shaped hulls) that again are now from Trinity. But talk to Jason at Fleetscale, he will be able to say if there plan is there own or is a Jecobin plan.
Dave
Totally agree about Trinity, they are beyond a joke, Jecobin may not be the most accurate at time but at least they were affordable.  It now makes NMM plans cheap :)


Bob

Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on January 31, 2022, 10:31:15 am
now here the deck is fitted back in place so the sound unit can be installed an it is now just waiting for  the top cover to be fitted but i will show that next time as better rest my eye but all the deck edges will be repainted to smarten it up later
chris  :-))
https://ibb.co/ns75RRM (https://ibb.co/ns75RRM)
Size of your hull Chris that foghorn is going to be noisy :)
Bob
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on January 31, 2022, 11:27:41 am
Size of your hull Chris that foghorn is going to be noisy :)
Bob


WELL THATS the whole point of a foghorn Bob lol
an its a whooper from action
HOPE you both as well as can be
ATB Chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 14, 2022, 08:11:11 pm
HI ALL SORRY BUT THIS BUILD IS NOW FINISHED AS I CANT UPLOAD ANY MORE PICS FROM IMGBB  >>:-( <*< <:(
CHRIS
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on February 14, 2022, 08:20:01 pm
Hi Chris,


Text is so small it canít be read.



Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 14, 2022, 08:24:23 pm
Hi Chris,


Text is so small it canít be read.


HI Dave sorry something screwy is goin on i dont know if its my laptop or imgbb  but it wont let me upload anymore pics so im finishing the build blog
all best to all
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on February 14, 2022, 08:32:20 pm
Hi Chris,
 


If it helps you could send the pictures to my email address and Iíll load them to you build log.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 14, 2022, 08:46:14 pm
Hi Chris,
 


If it helps you could send the pictures to my email address and Iíll load them to you build log.


HI Dave very kind of you an i will take you up on your offer but just give it a day or two to see if imgbb will come back online with the image codes because thats the problem but a little while ago it came up different from when i was trying to upload the linkpic from imgbb if not i'll send you a pm as im not sure if ive still got your email address
many thanks chris  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on February 14, 2022, 08:50:06 pm
Chris, Email sent your email.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 14, 2022, 09:05:23 pm
Chris, Email sent your email.


OK Dave  yes i see it an will copy into my laptop s   memory  banks  many thanks an i'll let you know in a day or so ok but i will now try an send you an email ok
cheers
ATB
Chris 
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on February 14, 2022, 09:27:33 pm
Computers eh Chris?  :(( <*<


You can't live without them, you can't live with them!


I am leased to see that your eye ops were successful and that work has begun again on the Tiger with more lovely wiring. I reckon she'll have more wiring than the real thing  :}


I do hope that you can get more images of your brilliant ship as the work is brilliant and I for one would miss seeing the progress. BUT, high blood pressure and recovering eyes don't mix, so don't get poorly stressing over the problem.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 14, 2022, 09:57:36 pm
Computers eh Chris?  :(( <*<


You can't live without them, you can't live with them!


I am leased to see that your eye ops were successful and that work has begun again on the Tiger with more lovely wiring. I reckon she'll have more wiring than the real thing  :}


I do hope that you can get more images of your brilliant ship as the work is brilliant and I for one would miss seeing the progress. BUT, high blood pressure and recovering eyes don't mix, so don't get poorly stressing over the problem.


HI [size=78%]ballastanksian thank you for your blog  an yes i just dont know whats goin on wheather its my laptop or IMGBB but it wont let me down load any more linkpics but something different happened agan tonight when i was trying to download linkpic so it may come right or i maybe at my limit of free pics an may have to pay but it dont say  so weill give it a day or two an see if my image codes come back in  if  not then i'll do what Dave suggested so the build may go on hoefully an yes ive been takin it easy on hospital orders regards my eye op but its now wonderfull to see clearly again an thank you for asking an no im not gonna stress my eyes as dont want to lose them [/size]
[size=78%]ATB TO YOU SIR [/size]
[size=78%]chris [/size]
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 14, 2022, 10:38:27 pm
HI ALL hope fully im back on as ive been pokeing about in imgbb an it looks like they have changed the place where the linkpic image code is put so im now gonna post a test pic to see if ive cracked it an if the pic comes up ive just turned every thing on but will tell more tomorrow if it works as now off to bed to rest my eye
atb guys
chris

https://ibb.co/ZBjR6Jq
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 14, 2022, 10:41:23 pm
HI ALL hope fully im back on as ive been pokeing about in imgbb an it looks like they have changed the place where the linkpic image code is put so im now gonna post a test pic to see if ive cracked it an if the pic comes up ive just turned every thing on but will tell more tomorrow if it works as now off to bed to rest my eye
atb guys
chris

https://ibb.co/ZBjR6Jq (https://ibb.co/ZBjR6Jq)


AN IT DOES so looks like im back in bussiness a few more pic tomorrow an tales of woe
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on February 15, 2022, 07:12:31 am
Thatís good news  :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 15, 2022, 09:02:52 am
Thatís good news  :-)) :-))
YES IT IS Dave  now goin hopefully to post some more linkpics if i can
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 15, 2022, 09:40:44 am
HI ALL well i think i can now upload some link-pickeis
an first off a shot of the R/X an to show ive nearly used up all the plugs for servos funtctions as no 2 will be to work gun turrets an the last 3 plugs well ?
an i fitted everything on the ship ive made work so far but abit of a dissapointment as even though ive fitted on BIG SLA  12V 12AMP HR BATTERY with everything goin it only ran for about 10 mins so may be a bad batt but will try another today if i can an if still the same then i will have to cut back on some things but first i will diconnect the small 6v fans as they are not really nessacery an see if that make any difference
https://ibb.co/s61RFg6
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 15, 2022, 09:47:21 am
next pic is of the 12v to 6v voltage reducer to power the R/X an its fitted with an auto cut out in case it get to hot but one of the small 6v fans im gonna dissconect i will fit it in the front of this power reducer to cool it as it was getting rather warm wnen everything was goin so see if that helps to cool it an the wirein wll be tidyied up later
https://ibb.co/y4M5z6C (https://ibb.co/y4M5z6C)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 15, 2022, 10:01:01 am
an here main eletrics bay to work all things like lights an servos an such but i may do away with the one on the right as its only got 2  x 12v things runing off an the 3 other switches dont power anything yet an now wont   so if i remove it that will save a servo power on that one
https://ibb.co/QPYXyrx


Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 15, 2022, 10:04:03 am
AN Next the PDB board an the steam unit
https://ibb.co/vYGztjL
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 15, 2022, 10:07:15 am
an the 12v 12amp hr Batt but this may need to be dicharge an recharge to get to full capastiy as this is a new batt
https://ibb.co/hBydzVC
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 15, 2022, 10:13:56 am
AN HERE a shot of the big 4inch cooling fan to help cool the motors an such
https://ibb.co/v11ys9B
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 15, 2022, 10:18:52 am
in this pic a shot of the reworked 44 wires to power  things in the stern section an they are now all fitted in an reasonably tidy an away from the motors shafts so they wont catch on
https://ibb.co/TWtjBVL
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 15, 2022, 10:22:34 am
an here just trying out both hanger doors to open an close an the flight deck lighting an it all work ok just wish i had a mini nuclear reactor for power LOL 
https://ibb.co/Qk8MMG1
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 15, 2022, 10:27:33 am
an lastly an the steam unit put out some steam but when i took this pic the batt was running down so not too much steam but it was really pumpin it out when i first switched it on  so got to conseserve some power somehow
chris
https://ibb.co/CKmswKS (https://ibb.co/CKmswKS)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on February 15, 2022, 12:57:07 pm
Chris,

Very pleased you are still able to post pictures of your build.

I hope you either have a photo graphic memory or Jen has {-)
As your wiring is oarsome  :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 15, 2022, 04:42:12 pm
Chris,

Very pleased you are still able to post pictures of your build.

I hope you either have a photo graphic memory or Jen has {-)
As your wiring is oarsome  :-)) :-))


yes im pleased to be back posting but why imgbb had to alter it i dont know but at least i know now  an yes wireing is bit of a job to rememeber but ive put on tags so i know what an where the wire feeds too but i think i'll have to lose some as i think ive overdone it lol an ive still got the 2 gun turrets to wire in yet an the working seaking helo so got to do some thinking on whats got to go
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: dodes on February 18, 2022, 02:50:29 pm
Sorry the pic was not clearer, but it was a foggy day the old girl was towed out of Portsmouth for razor blades. I took it from the office on flag staff jetty one up from South Railway Jetty.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: dodes on February 18, 2022, 02:52:28 pm
Sorry but for some reason it would not open first time round.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 18, 2022, 05:33:31 pm
HI Doades cheers for the pic i think some one else posted the same pic further back in the build never can have enough pics thank you for posting this but its a sad day for her to be scrapped but by gum she was big wasnt she an so is my tiger model in 1/72 semi scale  a real cracker of a ship an im still trying to work out my power problem but made a start at one trouble point  so that may be the cause but will keep at it till it all runs for at least a half an hr if that happens then i will be happy with the model but there is a lot of workings items
ATB chris  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: dodes on February 18, 2022, 08:34:41 pm
Wish all the best, always thought that class was probably the best looking and with her advanced gyro stabilised guns probably the best light cruiser built in this country.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on February 18, 2022, 08:51:29 pm
Iv'e just read the history of her and it was most interesting what with the automatic 6inch guns being unreliable (obviously taken into account when designing and building the 4.5inch guns) and the squabbles over her completing and rebuilding.


The image looks better in that misty style. She is a huge ship ad looks much more imposing through the murk!
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: dodes on February 19, 2022, 11:35:04 am
Remember my long time dead brother who was in the Andrew telling me as a youngster, that her 6" guns used to quiver when in use to maintain range due to ship movement. An old friend of mine served as a gunner on her and he said that with the 3" guns, they could jam when in auto and you had to fist punch the shells to maintain loading, said it was a bit hairy but that was it. Also they reckon that when in auto the the guns could empty the 3" mags in about 20 mins such was their rate of fire, probably explains why those guns were not extended to new builds.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on February 19, 2022, 12:30:42 pm
Re the guns, they were never 100% successful but when they worked they were awesome, if you search you tube for "navy gets Tiger) it shows the "3 giving it stick.
Chris, think you must have a dodgy battery as the pwer drain would only affect you if you left all items runing all the time, which you never are going to do are you?.  The only time I have had similar it was always batts, and the new electronic stuff really draws neglible power so batt first..


Bob
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 20, 2022, 11:05:22 am
Wish all the best, always thought that class was probably the best looking and with her advanced gyro stabilised guns probably the best light cruiser built in this country.


HI Doades yes really aggree with you on a nice looking ship an yes she was huge an bigger still with that nice lookin hanger bay an big rardar really set her off i think anyway thats why im enjoing building her in this model
chris  :-))

Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on February 20, 2022, 11:09:07 am
I can see why you had to make the hull in two sections. Canít wait for you to post her sea trails photos.




Very nice build Chris. :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 20, 2022, 11:10:49 am
AN HI COULD YOU you give me a link to her history


ballastanksian (https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=14161)
chris :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 20, 2022, 11:14:29 am
Re the guns, they were never 100% successful but when they worked they were awesome, if you search you tube for "navy gets Tiger) it shows the "3 giving it stick.
Chris, think you must have a dodgy battery as the pwer drain would only affect you if you left all items runing all the time, which you never are going to do are you?.  The only time I have had similar it was always batts, and the new electronic stuff really draws neglible power so batt first..


Bob
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AN HI Bob  cheers for info but not batt as its my fault will exsplain when i put on some new linkpics of her goin for a half an hr with nr  everything goin
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 20, 2022, 11:21:30 am
I can see why you had to make the hull in two sections. Canít wait for you to post her sea trails photos.




Very nice build Chris. :-))


HI Dave yes two hulls was the way to go on all my builds so i can get the ship in the car for transport to pond but now got a smaller car but it should go in as i have mesured it but tight fit
cheers for stoppin
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 20, 2022, 11:45:46 am
HI ALL WELL regards my power shortage an after some testing found that problem is mine as when i was wirein up this ship a few wks ago i had this eye op on my mind alot an not thinking clearly so i found when runnig it that the front 12v down to 6v voltage reducer was getting quite hot an when i checked the wireing i found that i had made a classic mistate as this unit should just have been wired up to work THE R/X an  10 servos well some how i wired it up so that it worked all the 6v things in the whole ship an it was over loading an cuttin out due to a thermal coutout in the unit  so this is my fault so i set it to rights an now i have fitted in a new 12 down to 6v reducer an it all ran fine friday night had nr everthing goin  for half an hr an it only used not qiute one volt from the batt so im pleased
so a couple of linkpics to show the new unit fitted an wired in to work all the lights an hanger bay   
https://ibb.co/KGRwP8L

https://ibb.co/kqDmx7n


(https://i.ibb.co/6DtXmMh/IMG-6955.jpg)


(https://i.ibb.co/7z84f0R/IMG-6954.jpg)


Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 20, 2022, 12:03:32 pm
AN Now onto some linkpics
here is now i ran her in the dark so all the light can be seen
https://ibb.co/8jKBGQg





Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 20, 2022, 12:06:34 pm
an bridge lights but these wont show too much in daylight but it will show up the bridge crew members when i fit them
https://ibb.co/MRW21TL
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 20, 2022, 12:09:00 pm
AN Sorry pic not clear as the big main radar is turning
https://ibb.co/2ywNLZ9
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 20, 2022, 12:10:37 pm
https://ibb.co/qnQsL4k
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 20, 2022, 12:11:57 pm
https://ibb.co/sKKnhcL
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on February 20, 2022, 12:12:07 pm
They look great, she will look good at night on the water.


Pleased that you sorted out your power issues Chris. On ward and up wards  %% %%
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 20, 2022, 12:14:30 pm
an a shot here of hanger doors open
https://ibb.co/2NNkjPS
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 20, 2022, 12:17:29 pm
helo landing bubble lit up with two crew members in there an ive forgotten to fit the window wipers do thats a job for another day
https://ibb.co/Bf8H4kL (https://ibb.co/Bf8H4kL)

Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 20, 2022, 12:21:58 pm
an here a couple of shot of the  the steam unit was goin perfectly
https://ibb.co/FBvG5bM


https://ibb.co/5hMKssD


Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 20, 2022, 12:30:09 pm
AN  a half built 1/72 seaking on flight deck but mine when built will be all workin an nav  lights an such
https://ibb.co/HDFj5DG (https://ibb.co/HDFj5DG)

https://ibb.co/X8MjLH6 (https://ibb.co/X8MjLH6)


(https://i.ibb.co/bgWkcgN/IMG-6951.jpg)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 20, 2022, 01:13:50 pm
They look great, she will look good at night on the water.


Pleased that you sorted out your power issues Chris. On ward and up wards  %% %%


HI Dave cheers for the nice comments an yes glad she's goin ok 
ATB
CHRIS
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on February 20, 2022, 03:40:18 pm
HI ALL WELL regards my power shortage an after some testing found that problem is mine as when i was wirein up this ship a few wks ago i had this eye op on my mind alot an not thinking clearly so i found when runnig it that the front 12v down to 6v voltage reducer was getting quite hot an when i checked the wireing i found that i had made a classic mistate as this unit should just have been wired up to work THE R/X an  10 servos well some how i wired it up so that it worked all the 6v things in the whole ship an it was over loading an cuttin out due to a thermal coutout in the unit  so this is my fault so i set it to rights an now i have fitted in a new 12 down to 6v reducer an it all ran fine friday night had nr everthing goin  for half an hr an it only used not qiute one volt from the batt so im pleased
so a couple of linkpics to show the new unit fitted an wired in to work all the lights an hanger bay   
https://ibb.co/KGRwP8L (https://ibb.co/KGRwP8L)

https://ibb.co/kqDmx7n (https://ibb.co/kqDmx7n)
Wow that regulator is huge Chris, not knicked from Tiger is it? {-)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 20, 2022, 05:18:24 pm
yea bob just save my buyin it lol no its a fair size one so it can take plenty of power as its meant for a car ciggy light plug hope you both as well as can be
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 28, 2022, 07:37:22 pm
HI ALL GOIN TO fit a working seaking on her flight deck but the kit ive bought was not built when tiger was in servise so its gonna be a ficticional one
https://ibb.co/2qdZrkH
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 28, 2022, 07:41:03 pm
the 1/72 kit
https://ibb.co/SRV6GDj
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 28, 2022, 07:42:53 pm
to me the rotar blades look to thin an weak so may have to strenghen them
https://ibb.co/PTzhPm4
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 28, 2022, 07:49:19 pm
an gold eletric pickup pins an sockets that will give the chopper power
https://ibb.co/Y8dL6CQ
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 28, 2022, 07:51:44 pm
here the tiny 3v motors that will power the chopper hopefully but wont know for denite till ive mad the big rotatars an try it
https://ibb.co/gytXBz9
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 28, 2022, 07:55:47 pm
close up of motor an gearbox for main rotars
https://ibb.co/KLFCk4V
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 28, 2022, 07:57:45 pm
an the small tiny  motor to work the tail rotoar
https://ibb.co/Z6RMkdx
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 28, 2022, 07:59:36 pm
an the leds im goin to use to light it up with nav lights an such
https://ibb.co/wcR3QF9
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on February 28, 2022, 08:02:11 pm
an ive got 4 other seaking that can be put in the hangers bays lookin like they are bein serviced
https://ibb.co/smsFkGr

(https://i.ibb.co/WxBcqw1/IMG-6975.jpg)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on March 04, 2022, 07:52:52 pm
Chris, Shes coming along  :-))  four sea kings in your hangers must be massive ?
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 04, 2022, 08:22:08 pm
Chris, Shes coming along  :-))  four sea kings in your hangers must be massive ?


HI Dave yea the hanger is a fair size just measured it an its 13 inches long an nr 10 inches wide but i dont think the got all four seakings in their just three an one standing out on the flight deck an teid down in rough weather but i'll say this the blooming thing is made as light as possible but is stil feels heavy but i do need a fair amount of wheight anyway to get her down in the water


an im thinking of fitting them steel half x half inch counter weights on her keel while i can still turn her upside down easy yes be more weight to lift but if i wait till shes finished an then try an fit it then i'll damage the railind on the main deck an if its not needed then i can easily just unscrew them an remove them but when she finenally goes for her maiden voyage their will be a lot of exspreimenting an ive may have a chap on anther site who wants to see her an he says he will video her an put it on utube as he has an account on it so see what an how she progress through this yr but tonight i loaded up all the batts an all S/S AN GAVE HER A RUN AN IT WENT ALL OK so looking good as at the moment im now wireing in helicopter power wires to go up to the flight deck
ATB


CHRIS
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: T888 on March 04, 2022, 08:57:39 pm
Chris,


Will be nice to see the video once itís done.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 04, 2022, 09:16:13 pm
Chris,


Will be nice to see the video once itís done.


WELL Dave as i exsplained to him it will be a short notice job  on his phone by txt unless we get nice wheather for a few days altogeather as with the great british wheather it cant be trusted but the gent is not comin  to far as he lives in suffolk so not to big a journey an some other want to see her but again getting them to understand that she may not go ethier as the rds around here have pot holes an are not great if i can get her there whole i think it will be a miricle
but this will not happen for at least another yr so plenty of time an ive also got to make up her carry cradles an they are big an will take a month or so but will do this in the summer if we get one lol
chris  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on March 05, 2022, 03:10:47 pm


Hi Chris, all four Wessex/ Seak Kin fitted in the hangar, otherwise not much point in having it, mind you it was a tight fit {-)   image show how much space a Sea king takes up
Bob


(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2022/03/05/HMS-Blake-four-Sea-King.jpg)

HI Dave yea the hanger is a fair size just measured it an its 13 inches long an nr 10 inches wide but i dont think the got all four seakings in their just three an one standing out on the flight deck an teid down in rough weather but i'll say this the blooming thing is made as light as possible but is stil feels heavy but i do need a fair amount of wheight anyway to get her down in the water


an im thinking of fitting them steel half x half inch counter weights on her keel while i can still turn her upside down easy yes be more weight to lift but if i wait till shes finished an then try an fit it then i'll damage the railind on the main deck an if its not needed then i can easily just unscrew them an remove them but when she finenally goes for her maiden voyage their will be a lot of exspreimenting an ive may have a chap on anther site who wants to see her an he says he will video her an put it on utube as he has an account on it so see what an how she progress through this yr but tonight i loaded up all the batts an all S/S AN GAVE HER A RUN AN IT WENT ALL OK so looking good as at the moment im now wireing in helicopter power wires to go up to the flight deck
ATB


CHRIS
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 05, 2022, 07:26:21 pm



HI Bob cheers for pic an on the stern that round thing is that a light ?
an hope your modeling is goin well an you both as well as can be
chris :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Sealord on March 09, 2022, 05:15:31 pm
Hi mate, as you can see i've made it onto the site.
im going to try and publish on here the pictures of my Avenger being refurbished.
we'll have to see how it goes....
 {-)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 09, 2022, 07:01:30 pm
HI M8 YEA SEE you made it here then now if you want to post pics of avenger i use IMGBB hosting site an its free but some charge so up to you
chris :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on March 09, 2022, 09:31:43 pm
Hi mate, as you can see i've made it onto the site.
im going to try and publish on here the pictures of my Avenger being refurbished.
we'll have to see how it goes....
 {-)
The site method of publishing images is easy and its FREE


Bob
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Capt Podge on March 09, 2022, 10:35:47 pm
It's great to see how much progress you've made since I last looked in. your doing a splendid job Chris and having the wife onboard to help when needed - big bonus O0

appreciate all the updates as well Chris. :-))

Ray.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 10, 2022, 08:47:13 am
The site method of publishing images is easy and its FREE


Bob


HI Bob well my laptop wont do it thats  as i live in a low megabyte  area thats why i do link pics but if my m8 sealord wants to or can load his pics through the site all well an good but up to him
ATB
Chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 10, 2022, 09:16:03 am
It's great to see how much progress you've made since I last looked in. your doing a splendid job Chris and having the wife onboard to help when needed - big bonus O0

appreciate all the updates as well Chris. :-))

Ray.


HI Ray nice to see you an yes tiger is comin on with jen's help she is my apprentice lol an hope to fit on some new link pics tonight of what i have just been doin on tiger an glad you like the progress as its getting a complex model just got to hope i dont have a power shortage with all these working features
an thanks for lookin in Ray much appreacaited
ATB chris :-))

Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 10, 2022, 08:49:20 pm
HI ALL a few more linkpics on whats happening on her
an here ive made up a unit to power my seaking if i can build it all workin
https://ibb.co/XtDNBh6
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 10, 2022, 08:53:44 pm
an here under the flightdeck ive fitted coppper foil tape to take power from the pickup plug an the to the gold pickup pins when i fit them an they are all different voltage 12v - 6v - an 3v
https://ibb.co/LPQBVnC
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 10, 2022, 08:56:32 pm
but had to leavethat for the time bein as i forgot about the flightdeck marking so thats what in the pic here ive just drawn them out
https://ibb.co/zsKQbP5
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 10, 2022, 08:58:35 pm
an here ive started to cut out the tamyia masking tape
https://ibb.co/YPfhBgQ
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 10, 2022, 09:00:45 pm
an just as well no shakes thank goodness as they have cut out fairly good
https://ibb.co/W3tK7TT
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 10, 2022, 09:02:08 pm
an pinted white not perfect but best i can do
https://ibb.co/sbz2Tqd
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 10, 2022, 09:09:08 pm
an while this paint was drying i thought what else can i do
so i fitted on them keel half inch by half inch steel sqaure rod as these are bolted on  to the keel an if not needed then i can simply unscrew them an remove but i think they will be needed an they look nice an neat so im pleased altough its a bit heavyier now to lift but should keep her stable on the wet stuff  :-))
https://ibb.co/t8QZpRT



Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 10, 2022, 09:11:00 pm
an the stern section keel weights all fitted on
https://ibb.co/zrTHQhp (https://ibb.co/zrTHQhp)
ALL BEST ALL
Chris

(https://i.ibb.co/qd3F7MK/IMG-7000.jpg)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Capt Podge on March 10, 2022, 09:28:45 pm
Hi again Chris, that's a pretty good idea of how to achieve those deck markings and thanks for putting the writing next to the copper tape - it makes it much easier to see how you're dealing with the different voltages for the helo lights and motors - it's all making sense to me now.
Great work  :-))


Ray.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 10, 2022, 09:44:00 pm
Hi again Chris, that's a pretty good idea of how to achieve those deck markings and thanks for putting the writing next to the copper tape - it makes it much easier to see how you're dealing with the different voltages for the helo lights and motors - it's all making sense to me now.
Great work  :-))


Ray.


HI Ray glad you like the deck marking i was just glad i dint get the shakes as this seems to happen to me when im trying to hard an i can feel the ole ticker goin like the clappers so had a rest to calm down an listen to some sixties music an then done that copper foil tape for the seaking just got to hope i can build it as its a weak kit so will have to strengen it
an glad it makes sence to you so im not wasteing my time an thanks for looking in
 :-))
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 13, 2022, 09:24:23 am
HI ALL WELL ive just taped an old seaking kit togeather so i can see where to fit the gold eletric pickup pins an sockets that will fit into the flightdeck here top veiw of seaking
https://ibb.co/sgwN59n
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 13, 2022, 09:32:03 am
an side view an these seaking kits are very weak kits to fit in the gold eletric pickup pins as they are sprung loaded so a tight fit so i will have to strenghten the choppers outer undercart so they dont just snap off when pushing the eletric pins into the flightdeck gold sockets to give power to the lights an motors
https://ibb.co/2dKKShc (https://ibb.co/2dKKShc) :-))

Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 13, 2022, 09:39:57 am
An i was not happy with these montrics vipers ESC so i have taken them out an replaced them with  these two eletronize ESC  an now the motors run lovely an i can also make it to cut power to the back motors by R/C an run on economy  power just two props hopefully but if them two props are not powerfull enough then i can easily switch back to four props goin
https://ibb.co/9ghn709
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on March 13, 2022, 09:06:43 pm
an side view an these seaking kits are very weak kits to fit in the gold eletric pickup pins as they are sprung loaded so a tight fit so i will have to strenghten the choppers outer undercart so they dont just snap off when pushing the eletric pins into the flightdeck gold sockets to give power to the lights an motors
https://ibb.co/2dKKShc (https://ibb.co/2dKKShc) :-))


Chris, instead of those chunk large pins why not use small diamet brass tube and rod, much tider and easy to concela.  Just a thought.
Bob
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 13, 2022, 10:03:51 pm

Chris, instead of those chunk large pins why not use small diamet brass tube and rod, much tider and easy to concela.  Just a thought.
Bob


HI Bob regards the gold pick up pins i think the pic makes them look a lot bigger than they realy are as they are only 3 mm at their widest point an ive used these before an they work great hope you both are as well as can be
ATB
Chris an jen :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Sealord on March 14, 2022, 08:04:14 pm
hi mate, the keel weights looking good, wont really be noticeable when boat is upright, lets hope it stays that way when she's launched... {-)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 14, 2022, 08:45:30 pm
hi mate, the keel weights looking good, wont really be noticeable when boat is upright, lets hope it stays that way when she's launched... {-)


HI MR Sealord im sure she 'll be ok as them keel wheight dont half  wheigh in just got to hope i can lift her when done an nice to see you on here an when are you gonna do yor avenger thread ?
the ole m8  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on March 14, 2022, 09:36:30 pm
AN HI COULD YOU you give me a link to her history


ballastanksian (https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=14161)
chris :-))


Hi matey, It is here in Wiki. I appreciate that Wiki gets a little stick about accuracy etc, but it does have a list of sources and does say when a statement has no source/proof, so if it smells fishy check the bottom as it might give you the original source.


Here: [size=78%]HMS Tiger (C20) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Tiger_(C20))[/size]



Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on March 14, 2022, 09:44:37 pm
an side view an these seaking kits are very weak kits to fit in the gold eletric pickup pins as they are sprung loaded so a tight fit so i will have to strenghten the choppers outer undercart so they dont just snap off when pushing the eletric pins into the flightdeck gold sockets to give power to the lights an motors
https://ibb.co/2dKKShc (https://ibb.co/2dKKShc) :-))


Chris, you might want to ask Nick whether that tape is right for assembling fuselages. Some might not be correct  {-) 


Your work is looking fab. I saw that copper tape being used by someone at my old club and it worked well. He was running all sorts of gizmos through his and so can say your system should be just as effective with the tape. I think he had some sort of pad arrangement to make sure the tape and contacts always touched.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 14, 2022, 11:10:03 pm

Hi matey, It is here in Wiki. I appreciate that Wiki gets a little stick about accuracy etc, but it does have a list of sources and does say when a statement has no source/proof, so if it smells fishy check the bottom as it might give you the original source.


Here: [size=78%]HMS Tiger (C20) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Tiger_(C20))[/size]


HI MANY THANKS for the link to the tiger info a yes i had a good read an leanred a bit
cheers chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 14, 2022, 11:14:23 pm

Chris, you might want to ask Nick whether that tape is right for assembling fuselages. Some might not be correct  {-) 


Your work is looking fab. I saw that copper tape being used by someone at my old club and it worked well. He was running all sorts of gizmos through his and so can say your system should be just as effective with the tape. I think he had some sort of pad arrangement to make sure the tape and contacts always touched.


AN HI again glad you like her an yes that copper foil tape is very good i put it under my nr 9ft flightdeck on my nimitz to light up all the leds an it worked great
chris  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 16, 2022, 08:30:30 pm
HI allanother  small update as done the flight deck lighting an ive treid to keep the wires as neat an tidy as possible
https://ibb.co/9TkFpqj
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 16, 2022, 08:44:04 pm

an here the flight deck lights an proberly not the correct lights but all i had


https://ibb.co/qBTkccV



































Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 16, 2022, 08:45:41 pm
an two halfs of the seaking fusalarge
https://ibb.co/MPQHTwt
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 16, 2022, 08:48:31 pm
Now here im goin to try an fit the top part of the rotar to the tiny motoran gearbox an it does about 20 rpm
https://ibb.co/87MSdPW
chris

(https://i.ibb.co/2kqfscD/IMG-7024.jpg)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 22, 2022, 07:49:47 am
HI ALL well ive been working on that seaklng  chopper to get the motor fitted in an the main rotars to turn an here a shot of the main rotar head now fitted to the motor shaft by a mini collet with a allen screw into tighten on the motor shaft
https://ibb.co/HhKCVw6
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 22, 2022, 07:52:50 am
AN Here now ive just fitted in the rotar blades to see how they fit an they look ok
https://ibb.co/s5qfP8N (https://ibb.co/s5qfP8N)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 22, 2022, 07:58:21 am
HERE the motor is now fitted into the seaking's main fusalarge an just as well that this seaking kit comes with a seperate bottom so when i fitted the two havles of the fusalarge togeather i can go up through the bottom to work on it  :-))
https://ibb.co/4mynb4k
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 22, 2022, 08:08:40 am
AN HERE now ive fired up the motor an the rotars all goin fine an i ran it for 20 mins an it ran ok so im pleased an it ran at about 40 rpm
https://ibb.co/GW9xqW6 (https://ibb.co/GW9xqW6)
next ive to fit a tiny 3v motor in the tail to work the rear tail rotar an fit red flashing strobe lights but got to wait till these motors turn up as i oreded some off ebay


 
chris :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 22, 2022, 10:44:20 am
AN HERE A SHOT of the chopper in static state after running for 20 mins so to let the motor cool down
https://ibb.co/0BJ804z
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Capt Podge on March 22, 2022, 12:01:26 pm
That's looking good Chris and it's good to see that you've managed to sort out the image hosting again.
Hope them mini motors arrive soon and you can get the tail rotor running ok.


Ray.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 22, 2022, 06:33:25 pm
That's looking good Chris and it's good to see that you've managed to sort out the image hosting again.
Hope them mini motors arrive soon and you can get the tail rotor running ok.


Ray.


HI Ray yes im pleased with how things are progressin as this seaking is gonna be a difficult build as the plastic is not stronge so i'll have to strenthen it an yes i hope them mini  motors
arrive before to long as im hopeing to have it so that the tail section on the chopper will swing round LIKE THE REAL CHOPPER DOES if i fit it with a tiny hindge so the tail rotars wont get broke in transport an pc still playin up so got to hope i can still post pics
cheers Ray for stoppin an lookin at the build much appreacaited
ATB
CHRIS
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Sealord on March 24, 2022, 05:24:52 pm
Hi Mate, all looking good with the heli,,only 3 left to do.. :-)) enjoy....
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 24, 2022, 06:17:34 pm
Hi Mate, all looking good with the heli,,only 3 left to do.. :-)) enjoy....


HI MR SEALORD  yes only 3 more to build but as they wont be workins ones so they will build in a couple days so they easy each one  but this motorised one is gonna be difficult as im strivin to get a smaller motor as possible to fit in the tail to work the tail rotar so waiting for some comin off ebay an when will you be putting on your avenger thread ?
the ole m8
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on March 24, 2022, 06:48:30 pm
might be off help Chris




(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2022/03/24/R-1.jpg)


Bob
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 24, 2022, 07:16:56 pm
might be off help Chris




(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2022/03/24/R-1.jpg)


Bob


HI Bob yes brilliant pic many thanks  as i hope to have my seaking rear tail rotoar swing round to proteck the rear rortars an i will use a tiny dolls  house hinge that i have used on my water tight doors an they work ok  just got to make it so that all six wires that go to the tail rotars will fold in an out ok
hope you both as well as can be  PS BOB have you any pics of the rear of the tail as i think there is a red A/C strobe on the tail top an on the rear a back faceing white light as thats what im gonna fit on my chopper  :-))
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on March 24, 2022, 10:42:02 pm



(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2022/03/24/1289687-large.jpg)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 25, 2022, 07:17:37 am
HI Bob cor what a fab pic of a seaking many thanks for you posting it just what i was looking for CHEERS all best to you an judi
Chris :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on March 25, 2022, 09:56:33 am
HI Bob cor what a fab pic of a seaking many thanks for you posting it just what i was looking for CHEERS all best to you an judi
Chris :-))
Glad to help Chris, we both were playing with Merlin and Wildcats on Tuesday, great day out with the FAA


Bob
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 25, 2022, 10:57:28 am
Glad to help Chris, we both were playing with Merlin and Wildcats on Tuesday, great day out with the FAA


Bob


HI AGAIN Bob really glad you an judi had a good day out as thats why we are a bit depressed as around here where i live there is nothing as they have closed up RAF COLTISHALL >>:-( <*< <:( an now we dont even see an  military planes how we used to which is sad an to far for me to drive to yoeinton  sorry cant spell it
Chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 28, 2022, 05:30:58 pm
HI GUYS well here is a little more on the  working seaking helo
an i wanted to have the main door open an shut so i set about makin this work had to do a bit of filein down  but it all came up good an works ok an i fitted a bit of 2x 2mm channel runners to the fusealarge for the door to slide in an here its closed
https://ibb.co/BsJgLk8

Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 28, 2022, 05:33:24 pm
an now open as im hopein to fit some crew figures in here with a 2mm weak white led to illulimnate the cabin
https://ibb.co/rH6dzkW
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 28, 2022, 05:35:32 pm
an next up i want to have the chopper lit up so ive fitted in the white 2mm led for landing lights
https://ibb.co/9gBNY3Y
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 28, 2022, 05:41:40 pm
AN then i thought hang on a minute as id better paint the interior a dark matt green so thats what  have done
https://ibb.co/qJdGprj

an when i get the tiny eletric motors i will hope to fit in the tail to make the rear tail rotars spin round an anouther indea ive got is to fit a tiny hinge in tail so that the tail plane will swing round like the real one so that the rotars wont get broke in transport to an back from the pond
chris :-))


(https://i.ibb.co/mNGs4cT/IMG-7056.jpg)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Capt Podge on March 28, 2022, 06:36:27 pm
Hi Chris, ref the hinged tail section - is that because it hangs over the stern when it's extended?


You've got some brilliant ideas for this model and it all adds to the realism.


This is one fantastic build to follow - lovely job.  :-))


Ray.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 28, 2022, 07:30:33 pm
Hi Chris, ref the hinged tail section - is that because it hangs over the stern when it's extended?


You've got some brilliant ideas for this model and it all adds to the realism.


This is one fantastic build to follow - lovely job.  :-))


Ray.


HI RAY  well regards the hinged tail section no it wont be over hanging on tiger as it will be in the flight take off postion its just that as the real chopper does that i thought well i would like to add that to my model an another reason i want the tail section to swing back is it will proteck the tail rortars in tranport


an yes ive goin to try out my ideas as i like the realism with lights as it brings the model to life rather than just a static  as i lit an have my melin goin on my norfolk an here it is but it runs both rotars will go lovley
https://ibb.co/qmLMXg7

AN Ray im glad you are likeing the build so far but still a lot to do on her
ATB Chris

Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on March 28, 2022, 08:10:13 pm
Crikey Chris! Motorising the Sea king is enough and then you go another two levels illuminating and adding a hinge to the tail!


This model will be amazing (well it already is) when completed. A real labour of love.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on March 28, 2022, 08:38:32 pm
AuthorTopic: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE  (Read 120951 times)


[/size]ballastanksian (https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=14161)  hi well its not built  yet as still a lot can go wrong but yes hopefully my ideas will work out on this seaking as they did on my merlin
an yes im really enjoying building this whole ship an the chopper
thanks for lookin in on the build  :-))
chris [/size][/font][/size][/color]
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2022, 07:12:20 pm
HI All well still working on the seaking helo to get it all working an for a dragon kit not a good fit an i think its goin to be a devil to fit togeather but will see when i come to it an here fit some of the insides
https://ibb.co/ggm17N0


Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2022, 07:14:16 pm
next up ive painted an fitted in the pilots hopefully right colours
https://ibb.co/hHpFLLq
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2022, 07:23:29 pm
An i wanted to fit weak white lights in side to light up the pilots an so did so
https://ibb.co/BBjB3C9
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2022, 07:30:08 pm
here ive also fitted a light inside the main fualarge so it will light some crew figures that im goin to fit in the chopper next job is fitting
 in he gold pickup pins an thats goin to be ver awkward an trying to get all the wires soldered but can make up the tail rotar section yet till the tiny 3 v motors come an im goin to try an make it hinge around like the real chopper an ive made the ront door hinge down with the steps on


chris
 :-))
https://ibb.co/b5mvTKZ

Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Dan on April 05, 2022, 10:02:09 pm
Hi Chris, just managed to catch up on your build! Fantastic work! Your Heli has more working parts than my campbeltown! I'm looking forward to seeing how you construct the folding tail. Will your tail blades rotate too?
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 05, 2022, 10:45:16 pm
Hi Chris, just managed to catch up on your build! Fantastic work! Your Heli has more working parts than my campbeltown! I'm looking forward to seeing how you construct the folding tail. Will your tail blades rotate too?


HI Dan  yes helo is comin on an yes the tail rotar should work like my merlin helo does all im waiting for is the small 3v motors with a 3'2 mm thick motor an then i will drill out the tail an fit the motor in an the red flashing  2 mm  led on the tail top an a white led in the rear of the tail i think it is an then a hinge fitted an by rights it should swing round like its folded up for storage in hanger but also to stop the rotor blades getting bustered  when in transport an any more work done on your ship ? as i keep looking or has work got in the way ?
ATB Dan
chris  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Backerther on April 06, 2022, 09:49:49 am
Hi Chris;
I also used to adopt mini-motor seen in the pics for my two Seafire fighters for 1/96 Fencer.
I bought them at Akihabara, Tokyo at around ¥200 each. :-))


Kiyo
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 06, 2022, 12:18:55 pm
Hi Chris;
I also used to adopt mini-motor seen in the pics for my two Seafire fighters for 1/96 Fencer.
I bought them at Akihabara, Tokyo at around ¥200 each. :-))


Kiyo


YES Kiyo thats the motors i have sent for but i see yours are 4 mm in diameter but the ones i have sent for are smaller still at 3'2 mm  dimameter so the smaller they are the easyier they are to fit in the tail as a seakings tail is very thin so even with these smaller motors i'll stilll have to use filler to fair them in so not to look to lumpy but will see when they come
ATB to you Sir an keep on boating an we are havin a gala day up at norwich pond on aprill 24th so im praying for nice wheather as there normally quite a few nice big models up there
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Dan on April 06, 2022, 06:40:04 pm

HI Dan  yes helo is comin on an yes the tail rotar should work like my merlin helo does all im waiting for is the small 3v motors with a 3'2 mm thick motor an then i will drill out the tail an fit the motor in an the red flashing  2 mm  led on the tail top an a white led in the rear of the tail i think it is an then a hinge fitted an by rights it should swing round like its folded up for storage in hanger but also to stop the rotor blades getting bustered  when in transport an any more work done on your ship ? as i keep looking or has work got in the way ?
ATB Dan
chris  :-))


That'll look great Chris! Are they powered from batteries inside the hull of the ship or will you fit a small battery somewhere inside the Heli?
Campbeltown is coming on very slowly. Work and family life have slowed progress, I'm still working my way through the stanchions but I'm lucky if I spend a hour a week on it at the moment unfortunately.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 06, 2022, 07:48:26 pm

That'll look great Chris! Are they powered from batteries inside the hull of the ship or will you fit a small battery somewhere inside the Heli?
Campbeltown is coming on very slowly. Work and family life have slowed progress, I'm still working my way through the stanchions but I'm lucky if I spend a hour a week on it at the moment unfortunately.


HI DAN yes the helis motors are powered from inside the ships big 12 amp hr batt that drives the main motors but there is a voltage reducer fittied in the circut to the heli motors to reduce the power from 12 v down to 3v  an they pick up the power from gold pick up pins fitted into the flight deck an the helicopter can still be lifted off for transport i'll show how small the motor is for the tail rotor when i can take some pics of them as they only arrived today an sorry to hear you dont get time to work on your ship but a little is better than none
atb
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 09, 2022, 06:16:12 am
HI ALL well a bit more on the helo as ive got a dragon helo kit but its a terrible fit so had to do a bit of filling with plasticard an plenty of fileing down an sandaing  but have now got the two float outriggers fitted togeather an red an green 2mm leds lights for nav lights fitted in
https://ibb.co/02Fj8wM
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 09, 2022, 06:18:42 am
next up is the gold an brass 2mm eletric  pickup pins an sockets
https://ibb.co/bmw2q8t


Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 09, 2022, 06:20:51 am
an here they are fitted with their wires to take power to the motors  and lights
https://ibb.co/PwfbNVY (https://ibb.co/PwfbNVY)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 09, 2022, 06:21:39 am
https://ibb.co/w6SpSY7
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 09, 2022, 06:24:31 am
an ive now drilled the holes in the fusalage to take the wireing an its now bein pushed into postion to be gluded to the fusalarge
https://ibb.co/Dfsp1jn


Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 09, 2022, 06:26:20 am
an fitted but got to make sure they are fairly straight regards fusalarge
https://ibb.co/5jZ0Zhc
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 09, 2022, 06:30:28 am
an last pic for today till i can do more an the outriggers look fairly good so can press on on the other side as these eletric pickup pins are for the lights the other side will be for motors
chris
https://ibb.co/d2MLNDW
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Backerther on April 09, 2022, 11:31:02 am
Hi Chris;
Your onboard heli is well-craftsmanship and looks complicated from the structure of heli like to install neatly the wiring work in the fuselage.!! :-))
While mine was rather simple to work in the 1/100(not 1/96) Super-marine Sea fire fighter. :embarrassed:
1;Only set a mini-motor to spin the props directly
2/3;And modified the landing gears to get them a switch for spinning the props
4; Push-down is ON while a pull-up a bit like this is OFF position and could be removed if necessary.
5;The plane was pushed down to the deck for taking-off with spinning the props and the flaps were fully down as well. {-)
 And wheels were just off the deck and afloat !! {-) {-)
I have set 2 prop-spinning fighters,the other one is waiting for take-off with spinning the props at the rear deck. :D
Looking forward to your refined lighting and rotor-spinning helicopter on the deck.!! :-))

Kiyo
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on April 09, 2022, 11:46:57 am
Great ideas from both of you for hiding things like power and support structures! Not easy on diddy models even with minute motors etc.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: JimG on April 09, 2022, 12:35:27 pm
Hi Chris;

5;The plane was pushed down to the deck for taking-off with spinning the props and the flaps were fully down as well. {-)
 And wheels were just off the deck and afloat !! {-) {-)
I have set 2 prop-spinning fighters,the other one is waiting for take-off with spinning the props at the rear deck. :D

Kiyo
Just a little criticism on your setup. A seafire would not take off with the flaps full down, this was a landing setup and would produce too much drag on take off. As a Spitfire's flaps had only two settings, full up and full down they had to use wooden wedges to hold the flap mid way for take off. The procedure was to set the flaps full down, insert the wedge then set flaps up. The wedge would stop the flap at take off position, after take off and once speed had buillt up then flaps down was momentarily selected, the wedge would drop out and flaps would then go to up for normal flying.
Jim
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 09, 2022, 07:52:04 pm
HI Kiyo some nice work on your sefires an they look great on take off an we both have the same ideas to get the plane or helo working as you like me like a challange to try an get things working well done Sir an me im still working on my seaking as now my mini motors have turned up in post an i was amazed how small they are as i got 5 of them for only £2.95 an they are only 3mm withd an 5 mm long so one should fit in the tail of the seaking to work the tail rotor ok an i want to fit in a micro hinge so the tail will fold round just like the real thing but will see on that
ATB
Chris  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 09, 2022, 07:55:44 pm
Great ideas from both of you for hiding things like power and support structures! Not easy on diddy models even with minute motors etc.


YES THANKS we do try an i try an get things working an if i can as it brings the model to life just like Kiyo has done
an thanks for lookin in
chris b :-)) [size=78%] [/size]
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Backerther on April 10, 2022, 01:49:06 am
Hi Jim G;
Glad to have your precious ,informative and unexpected content of comment on my flaps set up of the Seafire..
I have long been thinking that a carrier based war bird is to lay the flaps out to gain as much lift and as possible on the short deck of the carrier whenever they take off as seen in the pics below.

But,anyhow the Sea fire is an exception different from other warbirds ..I have know the Seafire case with your advice.!

Kiyo
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Backerther on April 10, 2022, 03:30:17 am

YES THANKS we do try an i try an get things working an if i can as it brings the model to life just like Kiyo has done
an thanks for lookin in
chris b :-))


Thanks a lot for your comments and interests on my posting,Chris and ballastanksian.
A warship to load something like aircrafts is rather interesting and enjoyable to build while takes additional time and works
to complete in exchange for the awesome result and scale realism instead. :-))


Kiyo
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 10, 2022, 07:24:18 am

Thanks a lot for your comments and interests on my posting,Chris and ballastanksian.
A warship to load something like aircrafts is rather interesting and enjoyable to build while takes additional time and works
to complete in exchange for the awesome result and scale realism instead. :-))


Kiyo


HI KIYO yes you are right its better to have things workings if you can rather than just static
as you say it makes the modeling more instresting an challenging an the model itself is more instresting as ive found out the general public loved to see my radars all 3 working on my norfolk an to see an listen to the gun turning an battle alarm whooping an to see the merlin heicopter goin with both main rotars an tail rotars an to see it all the lights on it
https://ibb.co/qmLMXg7 (https://ibb.co/qmLMXg7)

an ready for take off
https://ibb.co/RCBp6cv (https://ibb.co/RCBp6cv)

as a lot of the general public really thought it would an ive lost count of the people videoin it on their phones an they loved it an gave very nice comments more so the women an children than the men but in general they all like it an for my wife jen an i it makes a fanstastic day out as takin norfolk it up norwich pond again on aprill 24th for a garla day just got to hope the wheather is sunny an warm so looking forward to the day
all best to you Kiyo an happy modeling :-))
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Backerther on April 10, 2022, 08:56:57 am
Hi Chris;
I do completely understand your present feeling toward 24th this month at Norwich.!! O0
And I wish you a best weather should come true for the day when many Rc boaters should come together with their boastful ships and boats as well as genera public who might be interested in the hobby very much!! :-))
By the way, it has become around 26 degrees C here in Tokyo today already and the day over 25 degrees C is defined as a summer day by our Meteorological Agency,which temperature is abnormal for this season originally but not so unusual in the past decade here in Tokyo. :embarrassed:  Instead,I could have more chances to enjoy RC boating by the enlarged summer time.! :-)) :-))
Your heli looks so gorgeous and fantastic which will attract many general publics especially at night.
Your Jen will play a role of camera woman on the day like my wife? {-)   %%


Looking forward to seeing many pics of the day


Kiyo
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on April 10, 2022, 10:30:21 am
Chris
MOD markings for a T23


Bob



(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2022/04/10/277834840_3093056050948947_6896770112517950719_n.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2022/04/10/277417410_576480330021823_3677916472968381115_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: JimG on April 10, 2022, 11:30:20 am
Hi Jim G;
Glad to have your precious ,informative and unexpected content of comment on my flaps set up of the Seafire..
I have long been thinking that a carrier based war bird is to lay the flaps out to gain as much lift and as possible on the short deck of the carrier whenever they take off as seen in the pics below.

But,anyhow the Sea fire is an exception different from other warbirds ..I have know the Seafire case with your advice.!

Kiyo
Generally flaps on an aircraft have two functions depending on their position. When partially open they provide extra lift for take off by altering the airfoil shape at their position. When fully open any extra lift is counteracted by the extra drag they produce by being at a higher angle to the airflow, this is then used on landing to reduce the airspeed and the landing run. This drag often allows them to come in at a steeper angle on landing without raching too high a speed, a good example is the Khe San approach by military transports.  A Spitfire is a low drag airframe so loses speed for landing slowly, the full flap allows it to use shorter runways. I see this when I fly my turbine aircraft which are all fitted with flaps. I may use partial flaps on takeoff  on calmer days when there is little wind down the runway. On landing I need to use full flap to slow the plane down enough for landing, the drag from the flap is enough that I generally have to increase the throttle to maintain flying speed. I normally fly from a grass runway with only an occasional use of a full size tarmac runway so have limited runway length.
Jim
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 10, 2022, 12:47:31 pm
Chris
MOD markings for a T23


Bob



(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2022/04/10/277834840_3093056050948947_6896770112517950719_n.jpg)
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2022/04/10/277417410_576480330021823_3677916472968381115_n.jpg)


CHEERS Bob but bit late now as the ship is built but thanks for the info
hope you both as well as can be
ATB to you sir PS Bob could you please give me a link to that chap mike  site with his eletroins gun fire sound unit as i cant find it
chrisb

Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on April 10, 2022, 05:04:42 pm
Chris
just thought you might like it, never have to much data
Model Radio Workshop is what you need to search for


Bob

Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 10, 2022, 08:21:38 pm
Chris
just thought you might like it, never have to much data
Model Radio Workshop is what you need to search for


Bob
OK CHEERS Bob  an i'll have a look at it
atb chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Backerther on April 11, 2022, 01:43:18 am
Generally flaps on an aircraft have two functions depending on their position. When partially open they provide extra lift for take off by altering the airfoil shape at their position. When fully open any extra lift is counteracted by the extra drag they produce by being at a higher angle to the airflow, this is then used on landing to reduce the airspeed and the landing run. This drag often allows them to come in at a steeper angle on landing without raching too high a speed, a good example is the Khe San approach by military transports.  A Spitfire is a low drag airframe so loses speed for landing slowly, the full flap allows it to use shorter runways. I see this when I fly my turbine aircraft which are all fitted with flaps. I may use partial flaps on takeoff  on calmer days when there is little wind down the runway. On landing I need to use full flap to slow the plane down enough for landing, the drag from the flap is enough that I generally have to increase the throttle to maintain flying speed. I normally fly from a grass runway with only an occasional use of a full size tarmac runway so have limited runway length.
Jim


You are quite correct to understand the effectiveness of the flap.!
I used to study hard the effectiveness of it before starting to build RC scale planes with flaps which flaps were "must" to enjoy the scale like flying as well as safe and secure landings.
I made it a practise to get the flaps a bit down for secure take-offs in my local so narrow a flying "baseball ground"partly with grass. {-) :-))
1;A trainer of the flaps fully down
2;Piper Cherokee with the flaps fully down
3;1/7 Focke-wulf D-9 "Dora" at rest
4;Front 1/8 FA-18 "Hornet"is equipped with flaps which are indispensable to land.
Kiyo
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 11, 2022, 06:46:22 am
HI Kiyo some very nice planes there an i really like the F/W 190  BUT could you start your own thread on this as this is my tiger thread
ATB
Chris  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: JimG on April 11, 2022, 11:59:57 am
Sorry Chris for taking some of the thread away from your excellent Tiger.
Jim
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 11, 2022, 12:10:50 pm
Sorry Chris for taking some of the thread away from your excellent Tiger.
Jim


THATS OK Jim its just that it was getting a little out of hand  :-))
CHEERS have a nice day because it is nice an sunny here an jen has gone for a walk out in the fresh air but its a little to fresh for me so im stayin in an modeling
ATB to you Sir
chris b



Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Backerther on April 11, 2022, 12:49:11 pm
Hi Chris;


I'm awfully sorry for our postings out of main theme. <:(


Kiyo
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 11, 2022, 01:56:09 pm
Hi Chris;


I'm awfully sorry for our postings out of main theme. <:(


Kiyo


HI Kiyo dont worry about it no problem an that F/W 190 looks a super plane i built one about 50 years ago an it was a controll line job as could not afford R/C THEN in them days
ATB to you also Sir  :-))
chris b
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 13, 2022, 07:59:06 pm
ANYWAY meanwhile back on the helo build  ive just got my tiny motor to work my tail rotator an it only about 3mm by about 6mm so it should fit it the tail section of my seaking
https://ibb.co/wBCDRSK
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 13, 2022, 08:01:06 pm
an it does lovely fit
https://ibb.co/LpwpQLW
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 13, 2022, 08:01:53 pm
https://ibb.co/hVGhpXj
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 13, 2022, 08:04:27 pm
an here its all wired in an the red stobe flashing led is fitted an a white tail light i think they have
https://ibb.co/Bs4fvRr
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 13, 2022, 08:06:16 pm
here nxt the tails two halfs goin togeather an hinge fitted
https://ibb.co/KjV8VWk
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 13, 2022, 08:08:25 pm
an yes the tiny motor spun the tail rotor like a oneoh
https://ibb.co/6ZC1tMx
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 13, 2022, 08:11:20 pm
here all the fusalarge bit have got to fit togeather an im dreading this as it is not a good fit so see how it goes
https://ibb.co/2vHzc2p
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 13, 2022, 08:12:04 pm
https://ibb.co/2gfW50m
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 13, 2022, 08:14:17 pm
an both motors go so great i can press on
https://ibb.co/86nPwX6
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 13, 2022, 08:17:07 pm
but the hinge would not go all the way back only about 60% but at least the tail rotars are out of the way an should not get broken
 :-)) https://ibb.co/7Rm6XFM

(https://i.ibb.co/txrW45j/IMG-7205.jpg)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on April 13, 2022, 11:21:48 pm
I salute the amount of work you have put into such a small area!


Looks great  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 14, 2022, 07:21:17 am
I salute the amount of work you have put into such a small area!


Looks great  :-))


MANY THANKS an yes im hopeing to get this seaking all working but as you say its so tiny an fragile got to be carefull how i handle it as it will break easy an to day ive got to wire up all the lights an then after that to try an fit it all togeather but the kit is a bad fit so see how we go on that
many thanks for your salute  SIR
chris  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Tworrs on April 16, 2022, 04:44:24 am
It just gets better all the time Chris.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 16, 2022, 09:50:30 am
It just gets better all the time Chris.


CHEERS Garry  :-))
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: littoralcombat on April 18, 2022, 01:33:28 am
Nice work on the Sea King Chris. Would love to see a video posted of the finished product when possible.
Nige
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 18, 2022, 07:37:05 am
Nice work on the Sea King Chris. Would love to see a video posted of the finished product when possible.
Nige


HI Nige WELL i cant do a vid im afraid but ive gent freind who lives in the next countiey called suffolk an who is on another forum has told me that he want to see tiger sail an seaking goin an he says he has an account with utube so he says he will come an video it all goin  when she's saling but my main problem will be gettin the ship up the pond without breaking it as my car is a tubo sports injection an bein a sports its got a hard suppenshion on it so i feel every bump in the rd an british rds are terribele so she may have probs by the time i get her to the pond as its over 20 miles trip to the pond an lots of bumpind about so im gonna fit cushions jens best but she dont know it yet lol to see if that helps keep tiger in a goin condition but this will be in about 2 yrs time as there is still a heck of a lot to do on tiger but thank you for your nice comment an lookin in on the build
ATB to you Sir
chris  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on April 18, 2022, 09:24:05 pm

MANY THANKS an yes im hopeing to get this seaking all working but as you say its so tiny an fragile got to be carefull how i handle it as it will break easy an to day ive got to wire up all the lights an then after that to try an fit it all togeather but the kit is a bad fit so see how we go on that
many thanks for your salute  SIR
chris  :-))
LOL thats not tiny  {-) {-)  wait till I do my 1/144 ones Chris, thats tiny.


Bob
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on April 18, 2022, 09:31:55 pm
Thinking about your hard ride issues for Tiger, If you sit the hull on a medium grade of foam then it should take the worst of the jolts creating a softer ride. Perhaps sitting the hull halves on foam blocks rather than the common lining of thin rubber gasket or insulation strip on our wooden cradles?
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 18, 2022, 10:42:03 pm
LOL thats not tiny  {-) {-)  wait till I do my 1/144 ones Chris, thats tiny.


Bob
HI Bob yea but will they work ? lol
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 18, 2022, 10:59:15 pm
Thinking about your hard ride issues for Tiger, If you sit the hull on a medium grade of foam then it should take the worst of the jolts creating a softer ride. Perhaps sitting the hull halves on foam blocks rather than the common lining of thin rubber gasket or insulation strip on our wooden cradles?


cheers for that i'll have a think about this
chrisb :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on April 19, 2022, 01:24:08 pm
HI Bob yea but will they work ? lol
chris
oh yes Chris they will work  :-)) :-))
Bob
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 19, 2022, 03:22:03 pm
oh yes Chris they will work  :-)) :-))
Bob


HI Bob yes if they work ok then great stuff as its the same scale as my nimitz as that was 1/144  an i went over to see Paul hiat over the wkend as he invited us over to see his tiger that he is converting into a gun cruiser an he's doin very nice work indeed should be a cracker of a model when he has finished it an mine is still at least 2yrs to go before she takes a dip lol
hope you an judi are as well as can be as we r
ALL THE BEST
chris an jen  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 23, 2022, 07:13:46 pm
HI ALL WELL still building that seaking helo as its crap kit an nothing  fits  >>:-( <*<  so thats a battle in itself  >>:-( <*<
https://ibb.co/c264jsX
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 23, 2022, 07:14:28 pm
https://ibb.co/rdQ4QDQ
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 23, 2022, 07:17:23 pm
an here the red tube moves in an out of the fusalarge to allow the tail section to swing round
https://ibb.co/bsPXQ3v
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 23, 2022, 07:18:09 pm
https://ibb.co/80VWQfc
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 23, 2022, 07:19:11 pm
running the motors
https://ibb.co/c8xdscX
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 23, 2022, 07:22:07 pm
an as its a crap fit had  to clamp it to glue
https://ibb.co/0X2jscF
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 23, 2022, 07:24:03 pm
an here at the cockpit can be seen how bad a fit it is
https://ibb.co/qx4WqBM
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 23, 2022, 07:25:56 pm
an more gaps to fill this is the worst kit ive ever had
https://ibb.co/zQcgtDj

(https://i.ibb.co/WG9XRjq/IMG-7236.jpg)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 23, 2022, 07:27:32 pm
an after a battle its fitted togeather
https://ibb.co/HKgpWkj

 
 (https://i.ibb.co/0nJVgdx/IMG-7239.jpg)

Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: ballastanksian on April 23, 2022, 08:53:24 pm
That is a disappointing fit for a Dragon kit. Was it an early release do you think? I recall early ones were a little less exact fitting, but that is gaping  %%  Still, you worked your magic on it and she's coming along fine :o)

Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 23, 2022, 09:26:10 pm
That is a disappointing fit for a Dragon kit. Was it an early release do you think? I recall early ones were a little less exact fitting, but that is gaping  %%  Still, you worked your magic on it and she's coming along fine :o )


YEA ITS BETTER NOW but i thought dragon were a good kit makers but well as you said ive fixed it so i can now press on an spray paint it in a nice dark blue
cheers for stoppin
chris  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Tworrs on April 23, 2022, 10:17:27 pm
Great progress Chris, you got there in the end, which is what counts. ;)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on April 24, 2022, 11:43:46 am
Think you must have a very early one there Dragon are top nothch kits normally.  Still tail rotor looks good.


Bob
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on April 24, 2022, 05:46:38 pm
Chris
Design builders model of ther Tiger Class 3" turret


Bob


(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2022/04/24/IMG_0195.jpg)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: stuart22 on April 24, 2022, 07:30:09 pm
Hi your Heli is coming on great just wondering if you can tell me where you got Your micro motors from please as I am finding it difficult to get the rear blades to turn on my Seaking for my HMS Clyde as that seems to be the only way it will work.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 24, 2022, 08:45:18 pm
Great progress Chris, you got there in the end, which is what counts. ;)


CHEERS Garry yea but the swear box was overflowin lol >>:-( <*< <:( :-))
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 24, 2022, 08:47:45 pm
Think you must have a very early one there Dragon are top nothch kits normally.  Still tail rotor looks good.


Bob


AN HI Bob  yes it must have been an old mould but on the box it said the kit was a gold ediotion so it just goes you cant trust them eh
atb
chris jen
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 24, 2022, 08:52:59 pm
Hi your Heli is coming on great just wondering if you can tell me where you got Your micro motors from please as I am finding it difficult to get the rear blades to turn on my Seaking for my HMS Clyde as that seems to be the only way it will work.


HI Stuart 22  well i got my mini motors off ebay just print in your search box
ultra mini motor an they will come up you get 5 motors for about £2'95p  an  free  p&p  they are about 3mm wide by about 6mm long
hows that
chris  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: stuart22 on April 26, 2022, 07:43:05 am
 :-))  have ordered them.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on April 26, 2022, 08:16:44 am
:-))  have ordered them.


HI Stuart well done now can we see some pics of what you are doin with the chopper on here? an they are  vibrateing motors for phones but the little bit that vibreates will just slide off the sharft  with a flat screwdriver end  an then they are ready for use  if you have bought the same as me an the little black rubber covers will just slide off
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 05, 2022, 09:30:34 pm
HI ALL well ive finished that disater of a seaking chopper an to my amazement it has turned out quite good now for some different angles pics an both rotors go an all nav light an stobe all flash
chris
firstly though a shot of the underside showing eletrics all done
https://ibb.co/D1nPn7n

Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 05, 2022, 09:32:24 pm
now some shots of the chopper
https://ibb.co/TvFTgY1
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 05, 2022, 09:33:05 pm
https://ibb.co/YjDDZxC
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 05, 2022, 09:33:56 pm
https://ibb.co/FJCVkgD
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 05, 2022, 09:34:56 pm
https://ibb.co/CtMSLJV
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 05, 2022, 09:35:42 pm
https://ibb.co/pxYs1Lx
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 05, 2022, 09:36:46 pm
https://ibb.co/JtVBYtn
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 05, 2022, 09:39:08 pm
an here i fitted a hing in the tail but it wont swing round as far as i hoped about 60% but will do me
https://ibb.co/G2MzPbR
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 05, 2022, 09:39:54 pm
https://ibb.co/ssPbKFC
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 05, 2022, 09:42:35 pm
https://ibb.co/ZXBWBMt
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 05, 2022, 09:43:26 pm
https://ibb.co/3RMt5Cr
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 05, 2022, 09:44:26 pm
https://ibb.co/0c9ZyPT :-))
chris


(https://i.ibb.co/mGyt5Qk/IMG-7328.jpg)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: RST on May 05, 2022, 11:16:39 pm
Nominate attached image as next "photo of the month" for the website...
Rich
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 06, 2022, 01:16:21 pm
HI Rich thanks but i dint know there was a photo of the month on here  :-))
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Sealord on May 09, 2022, 09:09:40 pm



  Hi mate , brilliant work on the helo, well done... :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 09, 2022, 09:15:51 pm


  Hi mate , brilliant work on the helo, well done... :-))


HI thank you mr Sealord for your nice comments
chris  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Tworrs on May 09, 2022, 09:24:45 pm
Very impressive Chris, that looks really stunning.
ATB

Garry
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 09, 2022, 09:27:57 pm
Very impressive Chris, that looks really stunning.
ATB

Garry


AN HI Garry yes im pleased at how it turned out from such a disater of a kit an still no plans yet ?
chris  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Tworrs on May 09, 2022, 11:07:06 pm
No plans yet Chris  :((
Garry
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 10, 2022, 07:09:47 am
No plans yet Chris  :((
Garry


HI Garry how longs it been now then ?
chrisB
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Tworrs on May 10, 2022, 10:29:36 am
Hi Chris, it's been about 3 weeks so far since posting, 4 weeks since ordering.
They say patience is a virtue  {-)


Garry
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 12, 2022, 03:31:52 pm
HI ALL well me brother came over yeterday an wanted to see tiger as he had heard so much about it but had not seen it so i put her all togeather for him
https://ibb.co/MgSBdtk
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 12, 2022, 03:34:34 pm
an with the working seaking chopper on the filght deck an it looks quite small to half the ship
https://ibb.co/5TrgKr1
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 12, 2022, 03:44:26 pm
an for the first time ever i maneged to get the whole ship in my camers veiw finder  :-))
an due to the sheer scale size of the ship here the seaking looks very tiny indeed an its a 1/72 scale seaking nr 11inches long so not that small but still tiny compared to the whole ship an its easy to see that they could get 4 seakings on her but as i keep forgetting her size till i fit her all togeather as 90% of the time she is stripped down  to her main components bits so i can work on building her in my model room  an in real she must have been a huge ship as she was a battle cruiser an helo carrier an i would love to have seen her in real  :-))  an will be glad when ive built an fitted on her both guns turrets as there is still so much to still be fitted on her as all that empty space on her front deck stands out so much to me

https://ibb.co/Jr04B14 (https://ibb.co/Jr04B14)
chris

(https://i.ibb.co/2cmQn9Q/IMG-7333.jpg)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Capt Podge on May 12, 2022, 03:53:13 pm
Well Chris, that was a good opportunity regarding your brother and the photos show very well the size of the ship. They also show how relatively small the heli is that you've been working on.
Did you manage to show your brother the heli with the rotors turning? Hope he was super impressed with your efforts.


Aye,
Ray.
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 12, 2022, 04:07:51 pm
Well Chris, that was a good opportunity regarding your brother and the photos show very well the size of the ship. They also show how relatively small the heli is that you've been working on.
Did you manage to show your brother the heli with the rotors turning? Hope he was super impressed with your efforts.


Aye,
Ray.


HI Ray nice to see you  yes i got it all working for him an the helo an yes he was quite bowled over as he dint realize that it all worked an was amazed as he build r/c aircraft an flys them an sometimes crashes them so he knows the amount of work that has gone into tiger as he is constanly  repairing his planes but as he said they are no where near as complex as tiger but he like me enjoys the builds of them as one time he crashed his plane into a treetop an had to climb the tree  >>:-( <*< [size=78%]to get it back down an he's nr 80 yrs old i could not do that the old bones would crack up lol[/size]
ATB Ray  :-)) [size=78%] [/size]
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 19, 2022, 07:24:49 pm
HI ALL well i cant get  on with the gun turrets yet as waiting for a tank  turret gear ring to come so i built that ugly box affair on her stern
https://ibb.co/2Wq5VYr
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 19, 2022, 07:26:43 pm
an my vershion of it with bumber bar in case it back into the pond wall
https://ibb.co/jzgSSt8


Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 19, 2022, 07:28:02 pm
an fitted on tigers stern
https://ibb.co/C54y3pv
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 19, 2022, 07:28:47 pm
https://ibb.co/9bDSMCn
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 19, 2022, 07:34:35 pm
an blue formation light
https://ibb.co/MRdgTwF
chris
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Martin [Admin] on May 19, 2022, 09:40:58 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/xMZ2v9x/IMG-7392.jpg)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on May 20, 2022, 01:26:00 pm
Chris
not sure why you have built it as a box, as it is not, it is a working area same as on a carrier (correct name eludes me) hope this helps


Bob


(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2022/05/20/port-098.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/svc4dpQ/IMG-7396.jpg)
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 20, 2022, 02:04:28 pm
well bob my plans dint show this an its a bit late now so have to leave it pity i dint know as i would have built it how your pic shows an anyway im glad ive built it how i have as its acting like a bumbper against the ship bein blown into the concrete wall so im happy with it as its solid
wood covered with plasticard but cheers for the info
chris  :-))
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Rob47 on May 21, 2022, 10:11:11 am
Glad to help Chris. Whose plans are you using ?
Bob
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 21, 2022, 11:03:34 am
Glad to help Chris. Whose plans are you using ?
Bob


 HI Bob plans im usein are arries formly jecobin  but now qauycraft but yes im happy that ive built that bit solid as if when she's sailing sooner or later the wind will blow tiger into the wall an as this is solid wood an a 2mm wire bumb bar fittied  it will save the ship an helicopter from damage as up both norwich an sherigham ponds the wind force can be quite strong so im gonna fit piano wire 2mm bumb bars around the ship in several places as when i was up at norwich on our last garla day sailing my hms norfolk them wire bumb bars did the job of savin the ships S/S an helo from hitting the concrete pond wall so this is all justified  an any more pics of what you are doin ? :-))
chris  ps hope judie is ok
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: Akira on May 21, 2022, 01:18:44 pm
Looking mighty fine Chris. Is that a laundry drying rack extending from the stern"bumper"? %%
Title: Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
Post by: frogman3 on May 21, 2022, 03:40:34 pm
Looking mighty fine Chris. Is that a laundry drying rack extending from the stern"bumper"? %%


yea its so the crew can hang their wet towels off  {-) ;D O0 :-))


chris :-))