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Technical, Techniques, Hints, and Tips => Painting, Finishing and Care. => Topic started by: Rodgearing on June 26, 2019, 08:30:09 AM

Title: Paint brands
Post by: Rodgearing on June 26, 2019, 08:30:09 AM

What is the concensus on paint brands?
Humbrol seemed to be the paint of choice and now albeit you can still get Humbrol there seem more on the market.
So whats your choice have you a brand you would swear by?
I'm trying to find a decent white so my choice would be Humbrol 22 white gloss.  Try and get a biggish (120 ml) tin of this is a nightmare.
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: Subculture on June 26, 2019, 09:06:06 AM
Halfords car paint works well, Jawal paints if you want tins rather than aerosols. Prefer solvent based acrylics to oil paints. Fast drying and tougher. Oils are good for weathering etc.
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: imsinking on June 26, 2019, 09:18:18 AM
TETROSYL for me, had my fill of Halfords . . .
HYCOTE seems to be much improved now tho' I've not used it on largish areas to date . . .
Bill
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: Subculture on June 26, 2019, 09:41:26 AM
Interesting. Not had any issues with Halfords paint. Itís made by the same company as the Hycote brand btw- J Briggs Ltd
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: Rodgearing on June 26, 2019, 03:19:49 PM
Thanks but Hycote are in spray cans I was after paint in tins.  Unless of course you know bettter
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: Fred Ellis on June 26, 2019, 03:57:47 PM
I just use my local auto paint factory, they do any colour in 1lt tin or 500ml aerosol, and if I ask nicely that could do then in matt.
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: Howard on June 26, 2019, 04:09:28 PM
 Hi Airfix tins was great a few years back but after the fire at the Marfleet plant in Hull years ago  the pain become crap in my view as it was then made in china am lucky I still have a full range of the old tins so if you can find a old model shop and see any dusty tins grab them might be the better older stuff.
                    Regards Howard.
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: Subculture on June 26, 2019, 05:23:08 PM
I suggested Jawal paints for tins. they trade on ebay, and also have an online store.

https://www.jawel.co.uk/

https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/jawelpaints/cellulose-paint-500ml/_i.html?_storecat=24908878018
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: Colin Bishop on June 26, 2019, 05:30:09 PM
Even if you are just looking at tins then you need to distinguish between enamel and acrylic. The traditional Humbrol range is enamel but most other 'pot' paints now are acrylic. You can use either (but preferably not both together). The acrylics will probably need more protection for a working model as they are most commonly used on plactic kits either by brush or airbrush application.

You don't say what you will be using the paint on or what for and it would be helpful to know this so that you an be given appropriate advice.

Colin
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: Subculture on June 26, 2019, 05:34:07 PM
Great deal of misuse of the acrylic term. There are artists acrylic, solvent based acrylics (cellulose type paint), model acrylics which can be solvent or water based. Bit of a minefield for the unwary.

For working models I like solvent based car paints, as they dry quick and are tough.
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: Colin Bishop on June 26, 2019, 06:03:32 PM
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For working models I like solvent based car paints, as they dry quick and are tough

Yes, I agree, but the OP clearly stated he wanted to use tins and not aerosols!

So best to ask him why.

Colin
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: Subculture on June 26, 2019, 06:40:23 PM
You can buy car paint in tins, it only tends to be sold in aerosols for diy refinishing. Buying in aerosols is the most expensive way to purchase paint, I only use aerosols for patterning work where I need a quick flash of paint to check my work for defects.
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: Colin Bishop on June 26, 2019, 06:45:44 PM
Yes, but most people only consider the more obvious alternatives.

Colin
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: Subculture on June 26, 2019, 08:02:51 PM
Isn't that the idea of this thread, to highlight the less obvious?
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: Colin Bishop on June 26, 2019, 08:10:15 PM
Up to a point but I think people prefer the more obvious commercial alternatives.

Better to just buy something off the shelf rather than have to organise something via a local paint supplier.

Colin
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: Subculture on June 26, 2019, 09:22:19 PM
I should think most things model related need to be ordered these days. I'm in London where there used to be at least half a dozen model shops within five miles from my door. now there is just Hannants open a two or three days a week, with a very limited range of paints in store. Order off ebay, it's there within a day or two at most. Halfords also sell some colours in tins btw.
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: Colin Bishop on June 26, 2019, 09:29:38 PM
I live down in West Surrey near the Sussex border and am fortunate enough to be able to visit Squires at Bognor, less than an hour away, who have a huge selection of paint in tins.

Colin
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: Subculture on June 26, 2019, 10:35:11 PM
The original poster asked what paints we use, and where he could get a decent white.
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: Klunk on June 27, 2019, 12:42:36 AM
depending on where the white paint is to be used, ie railings as opposed to a complete hull, I use GW/Citadel paints. for hulls, consider using tile paint, or for colours garage floor paint (black, grey, green and blue).
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: RST on June 27, 2019, 09:18:42 AM
If you specifically want Tins remember there's the plastikote range from DIY stores or hobbycraft. If you're lucky they might have old stock of oil based, I don't rate their new water based 'enamels" though. I tried a tin of white last year and it was a bit inconsistent. Ended up only using it to waterproof inside of a wooden hull in the end, very strange stuff to use.
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: James Duff on August 26, 2019, 10:02:56 AM
I make thoroughly researched historic (and modern) colour enamels in 14ml and 125ml.
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: Mark T on August 26, 2019, 04:45:46 PM
For the last few weeks I've been experimenting with Vallejo air acrylics.  Now I know that Brian out in Spain has been using this paint for some time so I thought that I would give it a try.


Firstly the coverage is quite amazing!  I have found that the tiniest amount of paint gives the true colour without any primer.  I have also found it to be very tough. It seems quite hard to scratch and remove and I also like the easy water clean up.  It doesn't seem hide any of the details either.  I have found though that it does need thinning as its too thick straight out of the bottle.


I would guess that it would just need a decent waterproof matt clear coat over the top.  Its probably one of the nicest acrylics that I've sprayed but I don't know about its longevity or if it reacts badly with other paints.


So far so good
Title: Re: Paint brands
Post by: roycv on August 26, 2019, 10:39:33 PM
Hi I have used most of the above but do like Humbrol.  I was using number 22 white (50 ml.) 2 days ago the tin was down to no more than a third left.  When I put the lid on the price was still on there, 99p!!!  So they keep quite well as well.  I have a stash of 6 unused white No 22, but they cost rather more!
regards Roy