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Title: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: raflaunches on June 29, 2019, 07:10:31 PM
Hi everyone


If you remember my introduction to my Dadís HMS X1 submarine build several years ago, well whilst not as fiendishly difficult as my last Ďwhat is she?í thread as at least this time there is a hull of sorts to go on!
So what do you think she is? A quick clue of sorts ( if it helps in anyway %) ): she was built in a dockyard abroad, she was built in a dockyard abroad!
That last comment was intentional... :}


(https://i.ibb.co/bbVjhhJ/072-B2423-DD38-4-AA7-83-FE-F4-C415-EC53-C6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bbVjhhJ) (https://i.ibb.co/Fg0cZpc/DF6-FF276-1-F2-D-4383-B8-A6-4528118216-A5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Fg0cZpc) (https://i.ibb.co/4KvvNYb/26-C45-BC5-F5-EB-406-F-B90-F-E36-A63-E23177.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4KvvNYb)
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: ballastanksian on June 29, 2019, 08:49:07 PM
Hm, the horizontal frame has thrown me but assume it fell over. The foc'sle is quite high but the hull isn't long enough to be a Destroyer. It isn't HMS Alecto?!!!
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: raflaunches on June 29, 2019, 09:01:28 PM
Hi Ian


No sheís not Alecto, and youíre right about it not being a destroyer, even though you said about the bow section being destroyer-like, we thought the stern was !


She is bigger than a destroyer, I will say that she is being built to 1/96 scale and is 135cm long and has a beam of 21cm.


And as you mentioned in another thread about Adamant, despite our favouring WW1 and Victorian era vessels she sits further in the future but not by much!
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: raflaunches on June 29, 2019, 09:36:06 PM
Another clue as I realise that there isnít much to go on.


This type of vessel was more common in WW1 but became a design dead end afterwards for obvious reasons when the identity is revealed. I believe she was one the last of type to be built... :D
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: Colin Bishop on June 29, 2019, 09:38:58 PM
Is it a P boat Nick?

Colin
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: raflaunches on June 29, 2019, 09:43:56 PM
Hi Colin


Unfortunately not.
What she carried became obsolete because the types of vessel that replaced them carried ones that didnít need to be lifted.
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: raflaunches on June 29, 2019, 09:53:58 PM
I will point out that if you remember my Dad and Iís particular favour of building one offs or unique vessels may help too... there certainly wasnít another...!
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: Ralph on June 29, 2019, 10:00:00 PM
Not my subject at all but can I hazard a guess at some sort of seaplane tender?


Ralph  {:-{
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: Capt Podge on June 29, 2019, 10:03:33 PM

That last comment was intentional... :}



So, does that mean it was built in the Netherlands?
(double Dutch)


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: raflaunches on June 29, 2019, 10:06:10 PM
Hi Ralph


Youíre so close, she wasnít a seaplane tender but a seaplane carrier.


Hi Ray


Think bird related instead of double Dutch, itís where she was built

Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: Colin Bishop on June 29, 2019, 10:10:22 PM
Engadine?
Colin
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: raflaunches on June 29, 2019, 10:15:02 PM
Hi Colin


Sorry
Not Engadine


This vessel was built in 1928 and had an ĎAí in her prefix which was later removed when she was sold in exchange for a cruiser.
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: Capt Podge on June 29, 2019, 10:18:40 PM
Hmas albatross?


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: raflaunches on June 29, 2019, 10:24:39 PM
Hmas albatross?


Regards,
Ray.


Hi Ray


Guess what... youíre correct! :-))

(https://i.ibb.co/61ZT0RV/9-BCF6-D06-DC45-498-D-BABA-A64958-D7-C365.jpg) (https://ibb.co/61ZT0RV)

Built in 1928 at Cockatoo Island, Sydney, she carried Supermarine and Short type amphibious aircraft until being sold to the Royal Navy in part exchange for HMAS Hobart (ex-Apollo). She served in the South Atlantic and Indian Oceans in WW2 before being converted to a repair ship ready for D-Day. She was damaged by a long range torpedo but repaired and later sold out of service to become the Hellenic Prince transporting immigrants.
Big difference between being a tender and a carrier was that she had a catapult on the bow to launch her aircraft.
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: Capt Podge on June 29, 2019, 10:29:26 PM
Nice one  :-))


... and certainly unusual  O0


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: raflaunches on June 29, 2019, 10:33:59 PM
Thats what we thought too. Always wanted to build an aircraft carrier but they were either too big or had been built before by other modellers. So this is the next best thing. :-))
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: Colin Bishop on June 29, 2019, 10:43:48 PM
Very interesting subject Nick.


Colin
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: raflaunches on June 29, 2019, 10:48:30 PM
Very interesting subject Nick.


Colin


Thatís what we liked about it, Iíve only ever seen little 1/700 scale models of her.
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: ballastanksian on June 30, 2019, 10:10:57 PM

And it looks like she will give you and Steve lots of opportunities to practice your soldering looking at the structures on the bow!


Yet another project to keep a close eye on  :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: raflaunches on June 30, 2019, 10:18:35 PM
Hi Ian


Certainly need the practice for a future project after Albatross...! :-))
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: derekwarner on June 30, 2019, 11:46:44 PM
Nick...I have 4 pages on HMAS Albatross ....send me your landline e-mail address by PM & i'll scan then & forward......  Derek
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: ballastanksian on July 01, 2019, 12:25:46 AM
Wow that is a brilliant start! Lots of information there  :} I like the cranes, they look very delicate. I'd be tempted to invest in some .75mm etched parts for that.
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: raflaunches on July 01, 2019, 09:00:11 AM
Hi Derek


Many thanks, Iíve PM you. :-))




Hi Ian


The cranes were one of the features we liked the look of, the catapult looks interesting too. :-))
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: derekwarner on July 01, 2019, 11:31:11 AM
Nick.......four [4] x 1 MB images directly to your landline....


Interestingly, O0 the text advises that our HMAS Albatross was built here at the Cockatoo Island Dockyard Sydney from plates punched & rolled in the UK

Derek
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: raflaunches on July 01, 2019, 12:30:34 PM
Hi Derek


Just received your email, many thanks :-))


Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: warspite on October 21, 2019, 04:58:42 PM
On reading this I was intrigued with your quirkyness for odd ships - I have recently been watching the world one series on the Smithsonian channel, and today watched the Normandy program for WII, this popped up and thought of the train ship. further in this sequence of shots was the rail waggons being unloaded.
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: ballastanksian on October 21, 2019, 10:41:24 PM
Given it's less than romantic role, the structure is quite elegant. it does not have a austere wartime look to it with those curves.
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: warspite on October 22, 2019, 07:38:42 AM
More look of a converted liner to something similar to a ro-ro ferry.
Title: Re: Project 16- what is she- part 2!
Post by: warspite on October 23, 2019, 06:13:50 PM
apparently HMS Hampton Ferry