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Title: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 05, 2019, 10:04:07 pm
Hopefully this will be the start of my build thread for the above model. Major construction will not start before we enter the winter period. It is very obvious that new materials will have to be used to reduce top weight this will mean many of the parts in the kit will not be used. The first pictures show the build board that will be used to construct the main section of the superstructure. More information will follow when the build starts.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Capt Podge on August 05, 2019, 10:34:02 pm
That's a good solid board you've put together Stan and with plenty of space to get your hands underneath  :-))


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 05, 2019, 11:06:50 pm
Hi Ray I will be fitting some studs this will allow me to clamp down the base of the superstructure during construction.


Stan
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 14, 2019, 03:17:01 pm
Just placed a order with prop shop for the running gear now looking for companies the stock thin veneers.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Popeye on August 14, 2019, 05:30:18 pm
Just placed a order with prop shop for the running gear now looking for companies the stock thin veneers.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))


Hi Stan.
What prop size have  you chosen and what motors do you intend to use?


Popeye
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 14, 2019, 09:28:54 pm
Hi 30mm 3 bladed may go up to 35mm if needed. Motors are small brushless power will be from lipo batteries.

Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: barriew on August 15, 2019, 06:33:07 am
Just placed a order with prop shop for the running gear now looking for companies the stock thin veneers.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))


Have you seen this company? Not used them, just logged in case of need.


https://woodveneeruk.co.uk/ (https://woodveneeruk.co.uk/)


Barrie


Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 15, 2019, 10:15:42 am
Thanks .

Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on October 22, 2019, 05:48:30 pm
Motors and prop shafts and rudder assemblies now purchased. Today I have marked out the locations of the above items. Foam board laminated to make the rudders pictures to follow.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on October 25, 2019, 03:37:52 pm
I hope to have the rudders in place by next week pictures will follow.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 02, 2019, 04:43:18 pm
HI  rudder posts now in place  and 8mm holes drilled in the deck to help lighten the hull weight. Next group of picture will show all running gear fitted.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Mark T on November 02, 2019, 05:09:18 pm
Yay - I've been waiting for this to get going Stan.  I'm following  :-)
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Mark T on November 02, 2019, 05:10:34 pm
Mind you I think you need to put your glasses on mate as it would seem that you drilled a few holes for the rudder before you found the right place  {-)
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 02, 2019, 08:36:03 pm
I would need big rudder posts. {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: timg on November 02, 2019, 09:09:55 pm
Hi Stan


You're off to a good start ,and very neat  (as always ), are the hull and deck made from GRP  ?


Mind you I think you need to put your glasses on mate as it would seem that you drilled a few holes for the rudder before you found the right place  {-)
   😁😁
 
I will also be watching


timg
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Mark T on November 02, 2019, 09:20:58 pm
I would need big rudder posts. {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)


Or fit 40 rudders Stan - mind you it would turn on a sixpence  {-)   Looking forward to the next update  :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 02, 2019, 09:27:44 pm
Hi timg the hull is g r p the deck areas are g r p moulded into the hull. Fitted over the drilled areas are the timber deck sections.




Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 05, 2019, 03:09:57 pm
First prop shaft fitted  masking tape is to stop glue dropping out .

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 07, 2019, 09:46:24 pm
Shafts and motors are now fitted. The rudder posts are a problem at the moment pictures to follow.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))shafts. {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{Rudders
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 08, 2019, 09:22:28 pm
Pleased to say shafts and motors  are now installed hope to have the rudders in place this weekend.

Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Capt Podge on November 08, 2019, 09:26:38 pm
Any progress is better than none Stan - another neat installation job coming up  O0


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 09, 2019, 08:46:02 pm
Rudder posts now in place and rudders fitted. Servo mount under construction hopefully some pictures later this week.




Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 12, 2019, 06:08:42 pm
The rudder posts and servo now fitted and tested also the fuses fitted these will be on the supply from  the battery.


Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 13, 2019, 10:34:41 am
This morning I have made the tray from plastic card for the R/X  gear pictures to follow.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 13, 2019, 02:14:50 pm
Just a few pictures showing cables fitted to the fuse holders  and the plastic tray made to fit the R/X equipment.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))

Technical info 
20 amp b/less motors.
30 amp E S C. 15 amp controllers would not meet  the motor needs
18 Amp cable.
Two 15 amp fuses protect all the above.
 
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: CJK on November 14, 2019, 12:19:10 pm
Nice work Stan (as usual)  :-)) Looks like you have a lot more room with this one.
You just might inspire me to have a go with another boat  :}
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 15, 2019, 09:02:01 pm
Most of the running gear and switches for secondary items are now fitted just some final wiring to finish. Pictures to follow.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: RST on November 15, 2019, 10:11:18 pm
Looks good to me but I keep hearing from others huco couplings are bad, particularly with brushless? 


Is there any real truth in that? I use huco's myself on brushed but have some devolved into new rubber couplings which I read are mandtory for brushless with wanting to assure way-over scale performance.


Rich
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: coch y bonddu on November 15, 2019, 10:35:21 pm
I use huco on brushless but i set up the shaft to motor with a solid coupling so alignment is spot on also I either wrap the coupling with insulating tape or heat shrink just to make sure it does not explode as technically you should not use them with motors that rec more then 5k...My Models by design Cygnus hull has a brushless with 750 revs per volt and run it at 24v if I feel the need for speed thats 18000 revs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...not broken a coupling yet


Dave
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 15, 2019, 11:10:45 pm
The brushless motors in this model are small and I understand will rev about 5,000 rpm the couplings are well made. The speed controllers are from MTroniks with good speed control.

Stan
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: RST on November 15, 2019, 11:22:06 pm
So Stan and Dave / Stavros then it'ts just the usual -confirm everything in alignment -I also run my brushed motors off a single AA cell and "feel" if they strugle to turn it aint right.  Stan, no offence, you just hear so much anti-huco and rubber joint tech these days.  I've never had a problem with either.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: tugboyben on November 16, 2019, 06:37:07 am
Morning Stan
Nice set up your motors
On 7.4 2s lipo 5550 RPM
On 11.1 3s lipo 8325 Rpm


If you run lipo that is  :-))


I am watching the build


Jason
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 16, 2019, 02:46:06 pm
Hi just a few pictures showing first fix of electrical work. Please note the use of Wago 221 terminal blocks no screws to worry about. Speed controllers are from M Troniks  and the two way switch from Action. More pictures when full installation is complete.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Capt Podge on November 17, 2019, 09:59:13 pm
Excellent work as always Stan, very neat and secure  :-))


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 20, 2019, 03:03:06 pm
Latest items to fitted in the hull are the two switches that  turn on the radio system and speed controllers. On the way a small pump to simulate engine cooling this will need to be tested on a jig pictures to follow.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 21, 2019, 11:46:36 am
All the wiring is now complete and tested.The next job is to lightly sand down the hull  to remove any marks made during wiring. Then back on shelf  for a while.

Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 22, 2019, 09:55:22 am
Hi RST  I have run both motors at full throttle and the couplings seem fine. The most these motors will do is about 5000 RPM.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 22, 2019, 08:13:39 pm
I have been today to my local car spares shop and purchased some 3mm windscreen washer parts. Saturday I hope to make a test rig  to confirm I can simulate water cooling on two outlets. Hopefully some pictures.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: RST on November 22, 2019, 08:19:18 pm
Hi, message received and very impressed I am too about your securing of parts through the hull.  Looks like stabilit express to me? But are you using masking tape round and peeling off each time while it is still green?


Rich
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 24, 2019, 04:12:10 pm
HI guys just a few pictures today showing the small pump and test rig to determine the final size of brass tube for simulated engine cooling. Next group of pictures show the first steps in superstructure construction. The formers are 5mm M D F  these will be remade using 3/16 balsa to lighten the build.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Mark T on November 24, 2019, 04:15:58 pm
Looks like a good set up Stan  :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: CJK on November 24, 2019, 04:33:55 pm
What's is that in the image Stan?
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 24, 2019, 04:42:59 pm
Hi Guys sorry for not explaining what the small fitting is. It is fitted on the suction side of the pump to protect the pump from damage. The filter is in two parts with a fine gauze fitted in one side hope this helps.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Capt Podge on November 24, 2019, 05:31:28 pm
Thanks for that Stan, yeah, better than pulling gunge from the water and into the pump, probably causing damage  O0


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: CJK on November 24, 2019, 05:47:45 pm
Hi Guys sorry for not explaining what the small fitting is. It is fitted on the suction side of the pump to protect the pump from damage. The filter is in two parts with a fine gauze fitted in one side hope this helps.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Thinking ahead then Stan  :} . What about putting a couple of 'taps' near the outlets for fine tuning the flow?
Something like the one on the left -

Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: ChrisF on November 25, 2019, 12:16:18 am
Hi RST  I have run both motors at full throttle and the couplings seem fine. The most these motors will do is about 5000 RPM.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))


They look like Raboesch couplings, which as you say are nicely made and much better than the cheaper huco couplings which I wouldn't risk on anything. I have a couple of the Raboesch ones that I'm going to use on my slower models with brushless motors. I use the metal/rubber couplings in faster models with more powerful motors.


As others have said, very neat electrical installation.


Chris
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: JimG on November 25, 2019, 12:29:38 pm
One thing to watch out for with the filter is that they corrode when used with water. They are aluminium designed to be used for the fuel lines on glow motors with up to 20% oil in the fuel so will always be oily. When used with water there is no protection against corrosion and the mesh can be blocked unless it is fully dried out after each use.
Jim
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 25, 2019, 12:48:23 pm
Hi JimG I have two of these already in my models with sign of corrosion. For the amount of time they are used it would take a long time for any damage to take place. But they are maintained not just fitted and forgot but thank you for brining this to my attention.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 25, 2019, 04:22:08 pm
HI guys more information for you. This model if built from the box and be used for R/C control will need some major work to lighten the overall weight.  Just to give some idea former 8 which is positioned at the rear of the deck section weights 1.1 oz made from 3/16 balsa it weights 0.2 of a oz. Lots of new formers to make. :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :((

Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on December 01, 2019, 10:16:58 pm
Hi guys no I have not dropped of the planet a thing called Christmas is now taking more of my time. Boat building is on the back burner at the moment.

Stan. :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :((but I will be back. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on December 06, 2019, 03:17:34 pm
HI all now back building once again. I have enclosed some pictures of the basic frame work for the superstructure. Most of these parts are having to be made from 2mm and 3mm light ply laminated.  Then using the kit formers new ones are cut from light ply I am having to do this to cut down on weight. Cutting new formers makes me want to  <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:(

Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on December 06, 2019, 03:23:39 pm
More pictures.

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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on December 09, 2019, 05:55:13 pm
More picture showing construction of basic cabin shape.The weight without the roofs is only 12 oz a big  saving from using 3mm ply.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on December 12, 2019, 02:00:25 pm
Just a few pictures showing the 10mm timber supporting the cabin floor. Magnets are been fitted  to hold the superstructure in place finally the first piece of cabin sides.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Taranis on December 12, 2019, 02:11:18 pm
Great to watch Stan  :-))
Youíll be having me building this too  {-)
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: fireball XL5 on December 12, 2019, 06:03:13 pm

Such fine and yet very complicated work in a build you are doing there Stan. I am both amazed and very impressed with your skills.


what does an Amati Grand Banks vessel look like, please.


do you have any photographs of an actual ship.


it is a very interesting build, and I look forward to following this build especially to fruition.


thank you, Herbie
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on December 12, 2019, 09:04:31 pm
HI Guys just a few pictures from this afternoon. Front roof section now fitted new window section and rear roof cut from plastic card.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on December 14, 2019, 05:23:55 pm
Hi guys after a disaster with the front roof section this has now been removed and refitted using 0.75 mm plastic card.  The rear steps from the fly bridge are now been made using plastic card the  wood ones will end up in the bin. Plastic card is so easy to work with no sealing of wood. I have enclosed pictures from the build instructions showing these steps using ply for construction.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Peter Fitness on December 14, 2019, 09:28:47 pm

what does an Amati Grand Banks vessel look like, please.


do you have any photographs of an actual ship.



Amati is a brand of model kits, the real boat is made by Grand Banks Yachts. A photo of a full size one below.


Peter.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: CJK on December 15, 2019, 08:13:19 pm
You're making a good job of that Stan  :-)) BUT its taking too long - I thought it would be well finished before Christmas. get thah finger oot.  {-)
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Pragmatist on December 16, 2019, 07:54:50 pm
Thatís gonna be an amazing boat when itís finished Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on December 20, 2019, 03:43:53 pm
HI All my last post before the big day on this build. The rear window section is now glued in place.  the steps from the fly bridge have been rebuilt.  Just a few pictures showing the steps made from plastic card the treads still need to be fixed. Final pictures show the curved former clamped to fly bridge floor (third attempt) before fixing the remaining parts this proved to be a right ######. Evo Stick resin W used for this operation. Sorry about some of the pictures  hopefully Santa may
have a new camera for me.

Stan. This morning I felt like  <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( now :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
 
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on December 22, 2019, 05:03:33 pm
Construction now started on the fly bridge. I found the base for this piece to be to long it overhung the steps checking the plan and build pictures this is not the case. I  do not like  the timber used on the fly bridge so once again some parts will go in the bin to be replaced by plastic card.  Just to give some idea on the weight saving using other materials. Totally building the fly bridge using 1 mm and 3mm plastic card  5.2 ounces built from ply and some p/card 2.4 ounces . The planking on the fly bridge according to the build book is 2mm but the plan it shows 4mm  {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ The total weight of the superstructure so far is 1lb 1 ounce.

Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on December 23, 2019, 04:36:47 pm
Hi I am just going to fit some items to fly bridge before closing down for Christmas.  I have weighted the seating that is fitted on the fly bridge and it comes in at 6.9 oz,. A small sheet of 1 mm plastic card weights only 2.4 oz so it looks like the seating will be going in the bin and they will be made from p/ card.


Stan. In the bin again <:( <:( <:( <:( remade. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) I hope
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on December 24, 2019, 05:57:12 pm
HI All just a few pictures showing the first angled parts fitted to the fly bridge. Also seen the plastic card sheet fitted to one of the bulkheads on the fly bridge. Note the brace on the angled parts can also be seen. Final picture shows the seat profiles marked out on 1mm plastic card the total weight of all the resin seating is 10.1oz
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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Mark T on December 24, 2019, 06:07:58 pm
Thats dedication that is Stan - Do you know if you'll come in under weight yet or is it too soon in the build - happy Xmas  :-)
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on December 24, 2019, 06:28:26 pm
Hi MarkT  so far the total weight of the superstructure is 1lb 1oz. Keeping my fingers crossed and making new items were needed. Some areas of the construction the ply parts are lighter then using P/card.

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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on December 28, 2019, 06:00:28 pm
Jus a few pictures showing fly bridge parts fitted also the first seat made from P/Card. This   kit has some very hard angles to clamp while waiting for the glue to set.

Stan. These parts have been driving me. %% %% %% %% %% %%
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on December 30, 2019, 05:33:05 pm
Hi all had a stroke luck this morning I had a fabulous link sent from a uk marina. Lots of pictures showing external internal detail. I now need to find teak timber cut in 2 and 3mm  sizes.




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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Mark T on December 30, 2019, 06:50:47 pm
Teak - thats a big ask Stan.  I've just had a look at all of my wood suppliers and none of them have any teak in small planks let alone strip wood that we use.  I hope you find some - If not I would swap it out for either walnut which would be my preferred choice or mahogany.  Cornwall Model Boats have strips of both  :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Popeye on December 31, 2019, 08:48:08 pm
Hi all had a stroke luck this morning I had a fabulous link sent from a uk marina. Lots of pictures showing external internal detail. I now need to find teak timber cut in 2 and 3mm  sizes.




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Hi Stan.
Any chance of passing on the UK marina link to which you refer?
It might come in useful for the GB cruiser I'm currently building from Jim Pottinger's plan.


Happy New Year and best wishes,


Popeye
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on January 01, 2020, 11:20:47 am
Hi popeye will do but out of courtesy I will need to contact them to make sure this is ok. Hopefully should have it before the week end.




Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on January 02, 2020, 05:05:17 pm
HI Popeye details sent. Information for any future builders of this model  the interior wood work is teak and the deck planks are 1.75 inches. The heritage 46 model went out of production in 2007.I have found a company that will supply 0.6 teak veneer and the deck planks will be stained teak more to follow.

Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: CJK on January 03, 2020, 05:12:24 pm
...................................I have found a company that will supply 0.6 teak veneer and the deck planks will be stained teak more to follow.

Stan.
"Seek and you shall find". A quote I seem to remember from somewhere, can't remember where or by whom though.  {:-{
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on January 03, 2020, 10:02:55 pm
HI all not a great deal done due to the festive season. Just a few pictures showing the curved seat being made from plastic card and the copper wiring fitted for the navigation lamps (first fixing). Last two pictures show a template made to allow a sub roof to be fitted this will enable cabin lights to be installed. And the best place for glued plastic to dry the boiler cupboard.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on January 04, 2020, 09:32:23 pm
Only did as little today the L E D  for the top instrument panel is now fitted  ( first fix only) and a picture of my tatty L E D tester

Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on January 06, 2020, 05:40:16 pm
Well today I managed to get in a few hours in the garage. I have marked the locations the windows on the rear bulkhead cut them out and lined with ply. Further pictures show the superstructure clamped to the bench this makes working on this location very easy and finally a very untidy work area.

Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on January 08, 2020, 09:14:01 pm
I am now working on the seating for the upper deck area the timber for the deck planking has now arrived along with the light teak stain. Sadly my teak veneer was lost by the courier I am now waiting for a replacement which may not arrive until next week. Pictures this evening show the plastic card sub roof  trial fitted. The marked lines will determine the location of the cabin lights. Having this sub roof will give space for the wiring and resistors for various lights.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on January 13, 2020, 06:28:49 pm
HI Guys just a few pictures showing the curved seat made from plastic card. The sub roof is now painted  just the frames to pick out in brown. It can then be installed and the lighting can be fitted first picture showing the  teak veneer fitted to a roof support.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on January 16, 2020, 10:40:17 pm
Hi all not much done this week due to other commitments.Hopefully back in action next week. Just gone onto w/10 need a dark room.

Stan. <:( <:(





Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on January 22, 2020, 05:02:01 pm
Hi all sorry for no updates problems with w/10  hope to be in full swing next week.


Stan. :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :((
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on January 22, 2020, 09:01:46 pm
I have managed to find a way to upload pictures the long way until the problem is sorted. Just a few showing the sub roof fitted and the resistors in place along with the L E D.


Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Capt Podge on January 22, 2020, 09:18:25 pm
That's really neat work on those resistors Stan, have you set them in epoxy or some other glue?


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: CJK on January 23, 2020, 10:18:24 am
I have managed to find a way to upload pictures the long way until the problem is sorted...............

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Nice one Stan, where there's a will there's a way  :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on January 28, 2020, 03:10:21 pm
HI all no not dropped the planet waiting for my pictures on w/10 to be sorted a pain the *******


Stan. >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-(
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Trucker on January 28, 2020, 08:45:07 pm
all nice and neat Stan, inspired once again, i can only hope to improve my own work to match  ;)


Trucker
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on January 30, 2020, 06:54:24 pm
Well finally back in business putting pictures to my post. This group pf pictures show the wiring for the internal cabin area all L E D lighting. Please send a pm if you need any more info.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Trucker on January 30, 2020, 09:16:19 pm
Fantastic , jaw dropping stuff Stan, should be in the Master class section..
Well done
Trucker :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on February 01, 2020, 02:25:21 pm
Well for the time being the lights are finished now moving on to building the internal furniture. More pictures to follow later next week.




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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Mark T on February 01, 2020, 04:33:04 pm
Stan you should have been an electrician as that is one lovely wiring job  :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on February 06, 2020, 07:40:47 pm
Well now most of the lights are finished  we have to start to kit out the cabin area. The 3mm ply part have been glued together and over lined with 0.8 ply which will be stained light teak. I have to say I have built  many models over the years but I am disappointed with this model but onwards and upwards.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on February 07, 2020, 08:25:58 pm
Managed to do some more furniture building today and i have to say its a good job it is not a beginner putting this model together. I will be glad to see the back of this build. Just a few pictures from today one showing the parts scrapped and rebuilt from other materials.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: CJK on February 07, 2020, 09:24:03 pm
Managed to do some more furniture building today and i have to say its a good job it is not a beginner putting this model together. I will be glad to see the back of this build.....................

Stan. <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:(

Sorry to hear that Stan, your disappointment with this model has shown through quite often in your posts. I'm just glad I'm not attempting this.  {:-{
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on February 08, 2020, 04:46:52 pm
HI everyone this morning I tried to stain one part of the furniture not happy with the results. With the stain option not giving good results I have laminated some items with the teak veneer and so far so good pictures to follow.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on February 13, 2020, 03:07:46 pm
HI all no I not left the planet just totally ****** off  with this build. I have now decided to make most of the furniture from plastic card  covered with teak veneer.


Stan. <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( At the moment no light at the end of the tunnel.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on February 14, 2020, 09:03:46 pm
This morning I decided to take the bull by the horns and scrap all the furniture made from 3 mm ply with exception off the bench seat. I have now started to make the furniture parts from 1mm plastic card covered in 0.6 teak veneer. The mahogany instrument panel will be made from 3 pieces of teak to blend in with the rest of the woodwork. The first table is now complete just a few shots of this. Please note the table is not fitted on the rear deck.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: JayDee on February 14, 2020, 11:31:11 pm

Stan,


YOU CAN DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


John.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Capt Podge on February 14, 2020, 11:41:46 pm
That veneer looks really good Stan  O0


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on February 15, 2020, 06:10:36 pm
HI Guys just done little today still fixing veneers to plastic card furniture also laminated one side of the cabin sides. I hope to finish the veneer work next week. The work bench could do with a tidy up.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on February 19, 2020, 06:41:14 pm
HI all sorry for no updates laid up at the moment with bad back pain.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Capt Podge on February 19, 2020, 08:27:14 pm
Sorry to hear that Stan - take it easy mate, the boat can wait  :-))


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: JayDee on February 19, 2020, 11:41:06 pm

Stan,
FIX YOUR SELF - - - NOT the Boat   :-)) :-)) :-))


John.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on February 28, 2020, 09:30:21 pm
HI All now back in the frame. All I need now is my Valium each morning and i will be fine.


Stan.  Last week  :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( may be next week if all does not go well with the build. <*< <*< <*< <*< <*< <*<
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Mark T on February 29, 2020, 06:39:54 am
Glad to hear your feeling better Stan  :-)
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on March 01, 2020, 12:39:56 pm
Just a few shots showing furniture in early stages of constructions  using teak veneer.  The white seats are now painted and varnished ready for the cushions to be fitted more to follow. Sorry about the dirty bench


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on March 06, 2020, 07:46:52 pm
I have built most of the internal furniture but I cannot go any further with the internals until I have been to a dolls house fair in early April. I am now working on the fly bridge hand rails  just a few pictures to show how things are going.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on March 20, 2020, 12:51:48 pm
Hi all sorry for no posts  been busy with other things.




Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on March 21, 2020, 03:07:53 pm
Hi all been sourcing some parts for the internal cabin area just a few pictures. No cheap good quality will be placing more orders with this company.


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on March 26, 2020, 09:28:52 am
HI  yesterday i did a flotation test with the fly bridge fitted and it is looking good. I have included some pictures  showing the planking fitted to the fly bridge area and other locations. This kit certainly needs some modifications  to reduce weight.


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on April 03, 2020, 11:17:29 am
The fly bridge area is coming on now. I hope to post some pictures this evening.


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on April 03, 2020, 07:27:51 pm
Pictures showing the fly bridge 60% complete before the paint can be applied. The chrome metal for the fly bridge was very brittle and the small hand rails were just like thick fuse wire no substance in the metal. All the metal parts for hand rails will be replaced with brass just something else I have had to scrap. Final pictures show the internal table and the rear deck section planked.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Howard on April 03, 2020, 11:23:42 pm
Bootiful Stan.
        Regards Howard.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Capt Podge on April 03, 2020, 11:58:56 pm
Very nice work Stan - you can be justifiably proud of your soldering - looks great. :-))

Also, the close up shots show attention to detail, such as the bolt heads at the bottom of some of the rails.

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: CJK on April 04, 2020, 10:07:33 am
Nice work Stan, you're making a 'silk purse out of a sows ear' of a kit by the looks of it.  :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Mark T on April 04, 2020, 01:14:00 pm
I have to agree its looking great - You will probably be the only person who has a working version of this model.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Taranis on April 04, 2020, 01:19:25 pm
I have to agree its looking great - You will probably be the only person who has a working version of this model.
Apart from C-3PO who bought this recently
https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,60223.msg684872.html#msg684872 (https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,60223.msg684872.html#msg684872)
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: JayDee on April 04, 2020, 02:12:13 pm

Stan,


The makers of the "Kit" would not recognize your boat as the same boat that they sell !!.
Attention to Detail is amazing !.


John.    :-)) :-)) :-)) .
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on April 05, 2020, 02:17:12 pm
Yesterday only small amount of work carried out. The fly bridge wheel proved a little tricky but after soldering the chrome wheel and making a jig to position the inner wheel all went OK. Other pictures table in white primer wind screen frame work with balsa spacers fitted this makes sure the distance all round is the same. Last picture the read deck section fully planked.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on April 07, 2020, 08:03:26 am
Most of the brass wire work is now complete just a few bits to complete on the fly bridge then into the paint shop.




Stan
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on April 10, 2020, 08:51:35 pm
Just a few pictures from my build  First picture better shot of the wiring in roof for down lights various planking shots and finally the cabin sides. The inner cabin sides are laminated with teak veneer. Forgot to mention picture of the fly bridge in white primer now need to make the windscreen that will be fun. .[/size]


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Capt Podge on April 10, 2020, 09:13:29 pm
Once again you have come up trumps with your wiring work - very neat and immaculate  :-))
Looking good Stan.


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on April 11, 2020, 07:22:34 pm
Picked up the bull by the horns new inner wall made from plastic card. This was then taped in place and outer side fitted and the window openings marked on the plastic card. The other side still to complete after the window openings are cut out  the inner wall be airbrushed similar to the teak finish.

Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on April 12, 2020, 09:07:27 pm
Garage is now looking far better just a little done today. First job to remove the grain of wheat bulb in the lamp and replace with a  L E D  then dry fit the cushion's along with the TV and phone to a piece of furniture[/size]Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on April 13, 2020, 09:14:47 pm


Last night I posted a picture of a working table lamp. Tonight's pictures show it fitted  to the piece of furniture. Most of the furniture still needs a coat of gloss varnish


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on April 14, 2020, 09:02:51 pm
day off today enjoying the sun shine.


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: edinsteve on April 15, 2020, 09:01:15 am
Enjoyed watching your progress so far, very impressive and thanks for the advice about waterproofing the ďFifieĒ. Still have some glass fibre from the puffer build so will give that a try.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: JimG on April 15, 2020, 11:39:59 am
A bit nit picking but the wood you are using looks to be too light. Looking at you tube videos showing American Trawler yachts they seem to be very high gloss dark wood internally. Makes them look rather old fashioned and dark inside compared to modern designs.
Jim
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on April 15, 2020, 11:48:00 am
HI JIm G I can assure that I have spoken to Grand Banks Europe and they have sent loads of pictures showing the interior and my model uses teak veneer for the cabin internals not the mahogany supplied with the kit.  I am trying my best to reproduce something like the real thing not a product of someones imagination. I have no control  over the colour of the teak veneer supplied but you can be assured when this model is finished it will be one to be proud of. Please see below reply from Grand Banks.


Stan



Yes all our decks are teak so you right the walnut or mahogany would be too dark. You should be able to buy a teak veneer ( as used on plywood to make it look like a teak board) if not then iroko Ė similar in colour to teak or at worse a stained obeshi or pine.
 
AS for the interiors of our yachts they were all teak with some variations on layout to suit the clients requirements.
 
The 46 Heritage ceased production in 2007 and was replace by the 47 Heritage, this model is also  ceased back in 2014 and we are working on a new mid-range model for around 2021/2
 
Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on April 15, 2020, 05:44:21 pm
After careful  thought I have decided to make the fly bridge removable. I have fitted three 2mm brass bolts which will be under the seats. In turn the seats will be held in place with magnets. Pictures show the bolts in position  also some pictures showing the fly bridge brass work primed ready for final point job.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Capt Podge on April 15, 2020, 07:47:11 pm
After careful  thought I have decided to make the fly bridge removable. I have fitted three 2mm brass bolts which will be under the seats. In turn the seats will be held in place with magnets.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))


That's a good idea Stan, never know when you might need access.


I like the sliding doors on the flying bridge as well by the way  :-))


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on April 16, 2020, 05:58:02 pm
Drastic action today not happy with the colour of then internal roof. Removed the plastic light covers masked of the entire area the roof is now in white primer. New colour will be a light grey. I have also stated to make supports for the windshield pictures to follow later this week.


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Big lee on April 16, 2020, 07:16:08 pm
Looking good Stan look forward to seeing her at the lake
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on April 17, 2020, 08:53:44 pm
HI  Internal roof now has a blue grey finish more work to be done tomorrow will post picture when finished.


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Andy203 on April 21, 2020, 11:03:07 am
Looking very good Stan  :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on April 22, 2020, 11:48:34 am
HI all update on the build. Disaster struck the other day I spayed the hand rails with Humbrol metal cote polished aluminium but it would not polish to a high shine. This meant I had to strip all the rails back to the bare metal now awaiting a new chrome paint .


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Mark T on April 22, 2020, 05:27:54 pm
HI all update on the build. Disaster struck the other day I spayed the hand rails with Humbrol metal cote polished aluminium but it would not polish to a high shine. This meant I had to strip all the rails back to the bare metal now awaiting a new chrome paint .


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Its so annoying when you buy a product and it doesn't work like you hoped it would.  Good luck Stan it'll be worth the work in the end.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on April 23, 2020, 09:10:57 pm
HI  The metal hand rails are primed once again and the chrome paint is on its way.  Just a few [pictures showing the internal roof in its new blue grey finish and the external cabin sides with the mouldings around the window openings. Finally windscreen supports these are proving to be a problem but we will overcome.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Capt Podge on April 23, 2020, 09:21:58 pm
Lovely work again there Stan. Your 'can do' attitude won't allow this model to defeat you!


She's coming along nicely now.  :-))


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on April 24, 2020, 09:17:58 pm
 The sun was beating down today too hot for me so into the garage. I have managed to get a lot done today on various parts of the build hopefully some pictures later.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on April 25, 2020, 09:25:38 pm
Still waiting for my chrome paint. Windshield supports still a problem must get these sorted before the fly bridge can be painted and finished.




Stan
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on April 28, 2020, 09:15:34 pm
MY Chrome paint  arrived but still waiting for the black base These paints tend to be used by plastic model builders will let you all know how they perform. I have to say the brass effect looks top dollar. Bottle size is 30 ml and is pre thinned for air brush use only


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on April 30, 2020, 03:28:09 pm
Just two pictures today still, on the dreaded windshield supports but things are looking up. The cardboard will be used to make the final templates for the clear plastic glazing.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: DJW on May 01, 2020, 07:54:23 am
Morning Stan


I'm following your building with interest, seems we're both taking Amati kits then tweaking. I do envy the room that you have to play with in the Grand Banks, my Aquarama is a bit cramped...


Can I ask where you found the fuse board that sits between the motors..?


Best regards
David.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: CJK on May 01, 2020, 11:32:33 am
Lovely attention to detail Stan - as usual  :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on May 01, 2020, 03:10:32 pm
Templates for the windshield cut from cardboard fitted in place. I do like the purple finish the second picture shows the windshield with the frame also fitted. The next job is to make the side supports then it is paint time. Some of the templates will have to be fine tuned to suite various angles


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on May 02, 2020, 11:23:44 pm
A small box arrived today with more items add more detail when the model is finished.  Small box big cost.


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Michael on May 03, 2020, 03:24:51 pm
Hi Stan I am eagerly following your build process by Grand Bank I am going to start with this kit, I am very excited about how you will paste the hull lists.
That's great what you make a very fine finish
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on May 03, 2020, 09:21:06 pm
HI all not much done today out this morning then some urgent electrical work on the den. Just A few pictures showing some detail added to the furniture. The hairdryer will be moved to a better location


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Capt Podge on May 03, 2020, 09:32:23 pm
Some great little personal touches to add character to the model. I like the idea Stan, kind of brings the boat to life.  :-)


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Mark T on May 04, 2020, 04:59:47 pm
I know you said that those parts were expensive...........but wow they look great  :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on May 04, 2020, 06:42:33 pm
Thank you all for your comments. Today I have been flitting about like a butterfly working on the windshield frame work and the cabin interiors  sanding sealing the cabin sides ready for the white primer. Also spent some time on the web looking more 1/24 scale items for this model more to follow later this week.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on May 06, 2020, 09:42:28 pm
HI Guys all building stopped at the moment. Both my garden sheds need some T L C BUT i WILL BE BACK.

Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on May 10, 2020, 04:03:27 pm
HI Guys the lack of enthusiasm seems have gone for the moment  A good time was had on Friday and Saturday. Today it is very cold  not been far.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: DJW on May 11, 2020, 10:22:46 am
Morning Stan


Still trying to get the picture of you '...flitting about like a butterfly...' out of my head...   {:-{


Anyway, hope you've got the heater running in the shed, maybe had a tidy and found your enthusiasm.  :-))


Looking forward to next installment of the build.
Best regards
David.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on May 14, 2020, 09:45:27 pm
HI Guys just a selection of items I have been working on. I hope to fit the inner cabin side with very small screws and the outer cabin side with  magnets this will give full access to to the internals of the cabin.


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Capt Podge on May 14, 2020, 09:51:46 pm
Loads of fiddly bits being worked on there Stan.  O0
Like the way you've tackled those louvred vents - always tricky to get those things right but you seem to have found a way.  :-))


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on May 15, 2020, 09:24:47 pm
Today I have been making the side screen supports no pictures yet. Also built some brass work to go on the bow finally holes drilled in the main control panel. I hope next week to paint the fly bridge then start detailing


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on May 19, 2020, 08:02:03 pm
Well the prep work on the fly bridge is almost finished hope to paint before Friday. I have enclosed some pictures showing the windshield supports and the card templates fitted .The hand rails are now finished with Humbrol metalcote polished aluminium next step varnish these. Other pictures show furniture and aerials just a few little jobs to finish hopefully tomorrow.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: john44 on May 19, 2020, 09:04:46 pm
Looks like you've got the interest back, looking brilliant.


John
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on May 20, 2020, 09:26:54 pm
HI  the fly bridge is now coated in white primer. Gloss varnished the hand rails today first coat sadly i dropped one of them resulting it been covered in dust. Just another day at the office.




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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on May 21, 2020, 09:43:16 pm
Fly bridge now painted.When its dry all the windshield supports need to be masked off and sprayed with metalcote.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on May 22, 2020, 09:49:29 pm
The fly bridge is finally painted had a few problems yesterday. Now waiting for the paint to dry I will then mask of the windshield supports and spray with a metal finish. Last picture shows the fly bridge wheel mounting was going to be a problem simple answer a M2 brass bolt  just solder over the slot nice dome finish.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on May 25, 2020, 09:41:42 pm
HI Guys today's updates I have been masking of the windshield supports ready for spraying with a metal finish paint. The flybridge hand rails have taken back to bare metal not happy with the finish. Tomorrow I will be spaying a test piece with a new chrome paint pictures to follow. I enclosed some pictures showing the masking required to paint the supports.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on May 27, 2020, 08:42:39 pm
HI Further update  from the shed. Yesterday i sprayed the windshield supports polished aluminium not a good idea it looked awful. This morning they received a coat of matt white now happy with the finish. Also today magnets fitted under the seats  this will allow them to be removed to allow the fly bridge to be removed. I have started to make a sun lounger from plastic strip  and the table  both for the fly bridge.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on May 27, 2020, 09:23:32 pm
Just found a great picture of a lounger the plastic one may be for the bin.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on June 02, 2020, 04:34:51 pm
HI the fly bridge area is now painted just some small trim to fix then its time to apply the varnish finish. This will be made of 2 parts gloss varnish and one part satin all Humbrol clear cote. Just a few pictures showing the fly bridge with the seating fitted also the instrument panels and the L E D  fitted to one of them. Whip aerial also and some small items in a box ready for fitting
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on June 02, 2020, 09:33:58 pm
Just one picture tonight showing the fly bridge panel illuminated with a Yellow/ White 2 mm L E D.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Capt Podge on June 02, 2020, 10:06:41 pm
Wow, that's a great looking instrument panel - good work Stan.  :-))


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: DJW on June 02, 2020, 10:20:30 pm
Agreed. Nice work Stan.  :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: john44 on June 03, 2020, 07:49:56 am
Hi Stan, great work as usual. It's a good even light across the panel amazing for just 1 2 mm led.
I have often thought of getting a led tester but never got around to it.


John
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on June 04, 2020, 09:51:56 am
HI today's post I have changed the L E D in the interior control panel. I have used a yellow /white 2mm L E D far better than the orange one. I hope to fit the last pieces of wood trim then its varnish time pictures to follow.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on June 04, 2020, 06:36:21 pm
Hi Just a few pictures showing resistors  fitted in various parts of the furniture and one showing the 2mm L E D I use on all my models.




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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: CJK on June 04, 2020, 07:35:27 pm
Impressive detail on your models Stan  :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: ballastanksian on June 04, 2020, 10:21:13 pm

Crikey Stan, that is wonderful work! You remind me of a chap at my local club who builds super detailed models like this with gadgets and details. He fitted a working telly (LCD screen and mini MP3 player or similar) and a radar screen with mini LCD)



Keep that top quality work up mate  :-))


Re metallic finishes. You have probably heard of Alclad already, but their system is first rate with microscopic pigment size and super shiny chrome. They do a whole range of metal finishes. http://alclad2.com/
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on June 10, 2020, 08:41:38 pm
HI all sorry no further updates at the moment I need a short break.I will be back.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on June 14, 2020, 08:46:16 pm
Well i am now back in the saddle. Just out of interest the scale of this model is 1/20.  After looking round on the net i found some 1/24 scale figures but to my shock they measure 3in high far to big. If they are two big then 1/20 scale figures will be like the jolly green giant.m Right some picture from today showing fly bridge and some of the cabin interiors.


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on June 14, 2020, 08:51:21 pm
Further pictures showing a navigation lamp and the final L E D and wiring fitted in the cabin roof. Both the mast head lights and navigation lamps  will be connected with small connectors.Further pictures of the connector blocks used to connect power to all the light functions. In my thread on on L E D it was mentioned about using vero board  so i have enclosed as picture showing this I must admit I am not very keen on this method.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: john44 on June 14, 2020, 09:01:57 pm
Excellent work Stan, itís just a pity it will be hidden, :-))


John
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on June 14, 2020, 09:52:26 pm
Forgot this one. The dreaded vero board only kidding  {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Ianlind on June 15, 2020, 07:31:38 am
The figures at 1:24 should be around 3" which is 6ft x 1/2inch = 3". The 1:20 figures would be a bit bigger.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on June 15, 2020, 09:41:42 am
Hi thank you for reply. But if you read the start of my last post I did mention the height of a 1/24  scale figure and a 1/20 scale figure.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: CJK on June 15, 2020, 01:17:04 pm
Nice work Stan  :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on June 18, 2020, 08:44:28 pm
HI Guys Just ordered some paper flowers for the internal table pictures to follow later.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on June 23, 2020, 09:15:30 pm
HI I have not  lost interest just busy buying wallpaper and paint.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: radiojoe on June 24, 2020, 10:12:28 am
Not the dreaded decorating, just doesn't hold the same appeal as boat building does it Stan {:-{ :((


Joe
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on June 24, 2020, 10:30:28 am
Joe you are spot on been changing light fittings this morning. The boss is now out so its coffee time then in the shed.


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: radiojoe on June 24, 2020, 11:43:47 am
Never mind Stan think of all the Brownie points you'll have  O0


Joe
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: DJW on June 24, 2020, 12:04:03 pm
Stan


Just make sure you do a poor job on the decorating so at least you won't get asked to do it again... Works for me.


Best regards
David.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: reg on June 24, 2020, 04:55:03 pm
Browne points are like the wil of the wisp
vanish in the blink of an eye  {-)
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on June 24, 2020, 06:19:41 pm
Right gents enough about decorating lets concentrate on the model. Hopefully will be decorating some of it next week.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on June 25, 2020, 07:52:23 pm
Managed to do a little today during the high temperatures. The wiring under the deck is now complete and marked up to correspond with the quad switch. A further 2 way switch will work outputs 5 and 6. I also marked  blocks S and C spare and common or minus terminal.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: ballastanksian on June 26, 2020, 10:10:33 pm
Hey Stan, are those orange and clear things fuse holders? If so, that is the safest electrical system I have seen on a model boat  :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on June 26, 2020, 10:26:05 pm
Hi those plastic things are cable connectors used by electricians. No more terminal blocks for me. The ones in the pictures are all going to supply LED lighting.They are made by Wago Germany 221 series.




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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on June 30, 2020, 08:27:39 pm
HI Guys just a quick post Updates on hold busy decorating. Hope to do the odd hour will post any further work.




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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on July 04, 2020, 07:49:32 pm
HI Guys I am managing to get the odd hour on the build pictures to follow later this week.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on July 08, 2020, 07:55:36 pm
Finally today I managed to do some more work. First picture shows a sun lounger made from evergreen Plastic this will be placed on the fly bridge.The next challenge is to make all the cabin side removable this will be done using rare earth magnets. A few pictures showing the first magnets  fitted to inner cabin wall. Last picture show figures in the fly bridge these will be replaced with figures from Fujimi which i ordered today.


Stan
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on July 09, 2020, 08:52:31 pm
Just a few pictures from  from this evening.  The first inner cabin side in now in place held in place with magnets. You can now see how the outer cabin wall will be sat over the inner wall.  Final pictures looking inside the lower deck with the inner wall fitted and what the sun lounger will look like on the fly bridge. Forgot one picture showing parts for the dinghy
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on July 10, 2020, 02:23:50 pm
My Fujimi figures arrived today. Picture of the box art work.


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on July 11, 2020, 05:25:58 pm
Hi Guys I just tried the Fujimi figures on the fly bridge they are just the job £18 well spent. Must dash out for a nice meal this evening.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on July 14, 2020, 09:47:58 pm
Update for you all. Between decorating I have managed to do a little building will post pictures when time allows.




Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Spiney on July 15, 2020, 02:04:17 pm
Hi Stan,  I am about to start this same kit having recently abandoned the Riva due to weight issues.  Unfortunately with that kit I just didn't realise how overweight Amati kits were until I was to far into the build to put it right.  I just wondered if you had a target all up weight for your GB?  My guesstimate based on a quick flotation test of the hull + 2Kgs of sugar is about 3.5Kgs.  Right now, before I start Dremmel surgery the hull alone weighs just over 1.7Kgs.


I am also thinking of replacing the MDF and ply (particularly any ply which is then veneer covered) with balsa.  Obviously the balsa will need to be well sealed but as far as I can see the MDF is used to provide a framework and there just doesn't need to be so mush strength built in.


Your thoughts would be much appreciated.....


Cheers
Spiney
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on July 15, 2020, 10:26:08 pm
Hi Spinney pm sent. 


Stan.






Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on July 16, 2020, 09:12:44 pm
HI all sadly not a great deal done over the last few weeks. The sun lounger is painted and the fabric top is ready to fit. Next job make a towel to go on  the lounger the magnets needed to make one side of cabin wall removable are now in place


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 20, 2020, 10:55:32 pm
 
Topic reamed   :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on July 23, 2020, 11:31:47 pm
Hi all hope to be back on this build next week. Most of my jobs done for the time been.




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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on July 25, 2020, 02:07:43 pm
Just slowly making a start  the dinghy now looks like Swiss cheese. I have drilled a series of 7mm holes in the underside to make it lighter more on this later.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on July 27, 2020, 07:43:28 pm
HI managed to install and wire up the Action quad switch today and terminate the cables at a six way plug. These cables will take power to all the electrical functions pictures to follow.


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on July 28, 2020, 02:12:54 pm
Pictures showing the Action quad switch and the cables attached to the six pin plug. These cables will power all the lighting fitted to the model and also take power to a second switcher unit.



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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on July 30, 2020, 09:07:54 am
just started on the mast how do you fit small cables in a wood mast?


Stan.



Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: DJW on July 30, 2020, 09:15:16 am
Morning Stan


Looking good...  Re the mast, can you make a slot up say the back of the mast using small sawblade maybe then put the wires in, and then fill or put a slice of same wood in..?


Best regards
David.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on July 30, 2020, 09:41:35 am
HI Dave this may be the only way I can do this. Once the cables are in a good quality wood filler may be the answer to make good the area. Pictures to follow.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Spiney on July 31, 2020, 04:43:20 pm
Stan, there is standing and running rigging to the top of the mast, could this be your solution to getting power to the masthead light?
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on July 31, 2020, 08:51:54 pm
HI Spinney. I have made a channel in the wood to fit the copper cables I will post pictures of this later. In the mean time just a few pictures showing the radar support bracket. I have binned the 2 mm copper tube and made the bracket from 1mm brass rod. Other pictures show the yard arms on the mast these are going to be binned and made from ply. Finally just a few items to give more detail to the model.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 02, 2020, 08:57:58 pm
I asked a question a few weeks ago about fitting wiring down a wood mast. Just a few pictures showing how I fitted the copper wires.  Finally a few pictures of the inside table showing some detail including beer mats and the flower pot.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: CJK on August 02, 2020, 10:35:53 pm
Licorice Allsorts, my favourite  %%
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Spiney on August 03, 2020, 04:36:13 pm
I trust youíre planning a backlight on the e-reader Stan 🤓
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 03, 2020, 04:45:01 pm
HI Spinney. I think that may be a bridge to far but who knows.


Stan. O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 05, 2020, 04:49:44 pm
I hope to have the mast finished this week. Pictures to follow on other parts of the build later this week.


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 06, 2020, 08:18:53 pm
The work on fitting the cables is now finished and the cut out areas filled and sanded smooth. The boom will be made next and a few fittings need to be fixed the in to the paint shop. The fly bridge is almost complete crew figures need painting and fitting. Just a few pictures showing the copper wire in the mast eight cables in total and some of the fly bridge spot the chocs .


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Mark T on August 07, 2020, 07:13:38 am
Very nice job Stan your attention to detail is amazing
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 08, 2020, 07:21:16 pm
Thank you Mark for your comments. The mast is now complete just a few fittings to fit on the boom. I have tested all the mast lights after filling in the cables all working fine pictures to follow.


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 09, 2020, 08:30:54 pm
Just a few shots of the mast and boom. All the work is finished next step paint shop then fix to the fly bridge and wire up the lights. One shot looking at the internal table with the bench seat behind. Forgot to mention ash in ash tray just needs the cigarette to finish it off




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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 10, 2020, 10:37:30 pm
The mast and boom are primed with white primer. Pictures will follow when the mast is ready to be fitted.




Stan
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: ballastanksian on August 10, 2020, 11:07:24 pm
The sanitizer bottle was a super relevant touch and will jog the future observer's memories of this horrid year.


To answer a previous member's suggestion about using copper cored cables/wires as rigging, it might work harden and then snap creating a bad connection. It can be used in non stress areas to actually recreate conduit runs painted as metal or plastic tube.



Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: radiojoe on August 11, 2020, 09:22:48 am
Knowing Stan there's probably sanitiser in the bottle, I've already had to go out and buy some Liquorice Allsorts  %%




Joe
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: ballastanksian on August 11, 2020, 03:16:21 pm
Mmmm  :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 11, 2020, 04:42:21 pm
Just a few pictures showing the final layout of the tables may tweak them a little more. Last group of pictures during a ballast test done in the bath  looking good so far. The pencil lines shows the position of the water on the hull both at the stern and bow. Most of the heavy work is now finished on the cabin area. No doubt I will scrap most of the timbers used on the hull  and use plastic card instead. I need to change my camera  sorry if some of the shots are not clear


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 13, 2020, 06:56:11 am
Update on the build the paint job on the mast is complete. Next step apply the varnish then fit to fly bridge and wire up the mast lights pictures to follow.




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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 14, 2020, 05:42:10 pm
Just two pictures showing the mast cable been inserted to duct to the fly bridge and last picture mast fitted to fly bridge deck.  A word of caution for any future builder the base of the mast needs to be larger this will give a better gluing area.




Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 16, 2020, 07:34:02 pm
The lighting for the mast is now complete. I now need to complete some more soldering then power up the radio and check all the lights work. The inflatable supplied in kit is now in the bin the new one is been made from 3/4 balsa rod pictures to follow.

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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Mark T on August 16, 2020, 08:29:04 pm
Looks great Stan what a lovely job  :-)
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 17, 2020, 09:23:05 pm
Good news the light wiring is now completed just needs a tiding up under the fly bridge just three shots of some of the lights Also a picture of the resin dinghy in the bin.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: davejay on August 20, 2020, 09:39:14 pm
Lights are looking great Stan. Very neat wiring. A very neat build. Can't wait to see the finished boat mate!
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 20, 2020, 10:10:04 pm
Thank you for your comments on the wiring. The Action switchers have worked fine more to follow.




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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 22, 2020, 09:54:38 pm
Hi latest update rear section of cabin now in white primer ready for final white enamel finish. Still waiting for my teak veneer should been delivered Friday phone call to supplier on Monday morning.




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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 23, 2020, 06:19:01 pm
Sailed the hull only this morning the brushless motors worked fine. No more updates this week due to work indoors.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 24, 2020, 09:15:33 pm
Just two pictures.


1 New teak veneer ready to fit on the hand rails.


2 The new dinghy made from 3/4 balsa dowel.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 25, 2020, 07:48:58 pm
Today a disaster while in the garage a large lock fell of the shelf straight into the hull. This bent a rudder arm and all the push rods are bent beyond repair.




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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Spiney on August 25, 2020, 09:20:38 pm
Sorry to hear that Stan, I do envy the pictures from members with dedicated hobby rooms.

Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 25, 2020, 09:43:33 pm
All my models are built in the garage. I tend to have purge and tidy after new models are completed. I was banned from building models in the house years ago due a super glue incident.


Stan.



Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: CJK on August 26, 2020, 10:51:36 am
Today a disaster while in the garage a large lock fell of the shelf straight into the hull. This bent a rudder arm and all the push rods are bent beyond repair.

Stan. <:( <:( <:(
What a bummer! I feel for you Stan - been there myself, only my weapon of destruction was a heavy torch.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: radiojoe on August 26, 2020, 12:36:54 pm
Hi Stan, It sounds like the rudder linkages saved the hull, and you will repair as new.
Joe.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Spiney on August 26, 2020, 04:50:12 pm
Looks like my build is sympathising with you Stan, whilst installing the magnets for the flybridge I noticed that the plastic control arms at the top of the rudder tubes have split where they bolt on to the rudder posts.  The ones I used are actually from the Riva motorising kit so thatíll be another Amati component in the bin.  Iíll either buy or fashion new new ones from aluminium, at least I noticed before the boat failed on a pond.


I should be able to post pictures of the cabin and flybridge wiring layout tomorrow with magnets installed.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Mark T on August 26, 2020, 05:08:03 pm
I feel for you Stan I've had something similar happen in the past.  I know you will get it sorted though  :-)
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 26, 2020, 08:20:37 pm
Thank you for comments should be back on the build next week. The damage should take about half a day to correct.




Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on August 28, 2020, 06:56:20 pm
Hi all update on the damage  I may have make a new brass tiller arm and a new push rod . Not sure if the lock may have done damage to rudder tube and possibly the servo will no more next week.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on September 01, 2020, 08:56:27 pm
Hi just a few pictures showing dinghy build so far. Construction is from 3/4 balsa dowel 1/8 balsa sheet  and 1mm ply the dinghy will be covered with f/g tissue and resin later. Last picture filler on rear roof  to get rid of damage to plastic sheet. 






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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on September 03, 2020, 09:04:49 pm
Today I checked the damage after the the big lock fell from a great height on to the rudder linkages. I am please to say the only damage was to the push rods and tiller arms. The servo and rudder tubes are fine just need to refit the tiller arms and new push rods.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on September 09, 2020, 12:37:13 pm
Just a few pictures from this morning showing the glazed front windshield. Other pictures show the etch frets to make the wipers  these need to made painted and glued in place then the completed unit can be glued in place. You may notice my etch bending tool not the cheapest but well worth it.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Taranis on September 09, 2020, 04:32:44 pm
Could do with one myself  :-))  I wasn't sure what it was in the pictures at first.


Looking good Stan
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on September 12, 2020, 05:35:14 pm
Hi Tarnis  this is my brass etch bending tool not the cheapest but well worth the money and was bought locally. You may be able to get it cheaper on line. Just been using it to bend the wipers on my Grand Banks


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on September 13, 2020, 05:37:27 pm
HI all back doing a little today just made the internal steps that are located in the cabin.Scrapped the dark timber made the steps from lite ply and laminated with teak pictures tomorrow.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on September 19, 2020, 05:46:06 pm
Hi guys build on hold for a short while.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Trucker on September 20, 2020, 07:43:34 am
how come stan.  {:-{ hope you're not unwell.


Trucker
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on September 20, 2020, 08:18:32 am
No all is well.




Stan
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on September 21, 2020, 08:51:30 pm
The build at the moment is almost at a standstill and will be for around 2 weeks. I may have chance to snatch the odd hour.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on September 29, 2020, 08:32:34 pm
Hi all hope to be back on the build next week.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on October 01, 2020, 06:08:16 pm
Today finally restarted the build.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on October 03, 2020, 08:46:34 pm
Today I have sprayed the rear section of the cabin now needs a coat of varnish. Next step fit the rear glazing plus some more detailing pictures to follow.




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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on October 06, 2020, 09:41:02 pm
The rear section of the cabin is now finished and glazed. Working on some more detail for this section. Just a few pictures showing the this area and the dinghy made from 3/4 in balsa dowel  the covered in glass tissues and resin.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on October 14, 2020, 09:13:53 pm
Sad news all the brass hand rails are scrapped.I am going to remake them all the paint job was c==p now looking at other options more to follow.




Stan <:( <:( <:( <:(
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Mark T on October 14, 2020, 09:36:51 pm
Stan what happened??  The build looks great!
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on October 15, 2020, 08:12:39 am
The paint finish was not to my liking it did not look right I am going to try other options.


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Spiney on October 15, 2020, 02:01:08 pm
Would getting them properly chromed be in the budget?
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on October 15, 2020, 05:15:06 pm
Hi spinney simple  answer no


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on October 17, 2020, 04:42:59 pm
All the new hand rails are rebuilt they need tidying up and then cleaned with a metal cleaner. After that a brass etch primer will be applied and they will be left for 3 days to dry. Last picture is the rib but not happy with the grey scheme now back in white primer for the moment. I intend to try various  chrome finishes on a scrap piece of brass to get the best finish.




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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on October 18, 2020, 09:28:21 pm
HI all my building has now stopped and gone into the experimental stage. For the next week I will be trying different chrome finishes when i find the best I will post details.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: JimG on October 19, 2020, 12:37:40 pm
Have you looked at some of the chrome paints used in the full size custom industry.https://www.stardustcolors.co.uk/chrome-paint/141-chrome-effect.html (https://www.stardustcolors.co.uk/chrome-paint/141-chrome-effect.html)Have never used it but it looks like a really good finish although very expensive.
Jim
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: radiojoe on October 19, 2020, 01:20:07 pm
I bought a Humbrol tinlet of so called Chrome paint despite thoroughly mixing it I saw no difference to their Silver paint.


Joe.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on October 19, 2020, 06:47:03 pm
HI Guys looking at chrome pens by Molotow and chrome plaint by Alclad. I have contacted Molotow now awaiting a reply. While all this going will be back on the build next week. It is certainly 1 step forward and 50 back with this model.


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on October 22, 2020, 09:41:28 pm
Two sections of brass rod now painted with brass etch primer. Next step on one end  gloss black followed by Alclad chrome on the other the chrome pen more to follow.




Stan
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on October 27, 2020, 02:53:06 pm
HI  just a quick update on tests carried out. The chrome pen worked fine but even after allowing a long time to dry it still lost its shine when handled. The chrome paint used by plastic model builders also did not work very well. After a visit to my local model shop today I found a  further silver paint  which I will try and feed back the results.


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on October 30, 2020, 09:33:23 am
Good morning all from soon to be in tier 3 lockdown. I have tried numerous chrome paints  and i have to say I have some good results  but they tend to fail when a varnish is applied. Some tend to go dull just by touching even before a top coat is applied. At the present I am testing a further paint which can be applied by brush and dries totally after 24 hrs. Earlier tests using this paint shows it also does not like enamel based varnish so the next step is to use an acrylic based varnish more to follow.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 04, 2020, 11:57:52 am
Hi all no I have not dropped of the planet busy at the moment with internal plumbing work back soon.


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: radiojoe on November 04, 2020, 12:35:20 pm
Are we talking your house or Grand Banks, cos I wouldn't be surprised if you were fitting central heating in her.  %% {-) {-)


Joe.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 04, 2020, 06:40:09 pm
HI Joe no in the house but a further development fell of the ladder this morning twisting my right knee now in very bad pain.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: radiojoe on November 04, 2020, 07:36:04 pm
ho dear sorry to hear that Stan, been there done that last year hitting my side on the cooker and cracked a rib that was painful too, I try to steer clear of steps/ladders now, hope your better soon.


Joe.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: JayDee on November 04, 2020, 08:40:12 pm
Hello Stan,
I do hope you are going to get your knee checked by a DOCTOR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
John.  O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 05, 2020, 12:37:24 pm
Hi all  just a update no model building for the time being due to a knac---- knee. Still giving lots of pain.


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 06, 2020, 06:42:05 pm
HI all I hope to be back on the build next week. With regards to the metal hand rails I checked with Grand Banks Europe today to see if any of them were ever painted simple answer no. Up to the nineteen eighties teak rails were fitted beyond that stainless steel rails replaced teak. So next week it will be back trying to find a paint . I also checked with a chrome platter to see if my rails could be chromed simple answer no they could not guarantee the results. Onwards and upwards.




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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 10, 2020, 06:41:32 pm
HI back on the build my knee is still giving pain. But you cannot fall of a ladder while in the garage.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: SteamboatPhil on November 10, 2020, 09:17:28 pm
Keep going Stan--a good high stool works for me. :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: davejo90 on November 11, 2020, 07:56:01 am
Good to know you're back at it Stan. Great work so far on this project
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 12, 2020, 06:31:20 pm
HI Guys first pictures for a long time. Do you remember the dinghy covered in glass fibre? Well just a couple showing it painted white and the teak seat fitted in place. The masking will be for a blue line to be applied later.


Stan.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 12, 2020, 06:42:37 pm
Second set of pictures show the wiper blades that will be fitted to the front windscreen after they have been painted. Last pictures are of the chair that will be in the main cabin. It needs painting and fitting and more detail applied next major job to make 15 sets of curtains.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 12, 2020, 08:47:40 pm
Hi John 44 thank you very much for bringing to my attention the defect in the chair build. I will rectify this before applying the final finish we all make mistakes  but it is not the end of the world far from it. I prefer to know about any defects so thank you.
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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 16, 2020, 08:16:13 am
Hi all I thought after finishing all my work around my house it would be all go with my build. Sadly this is not the case progress is slow it may be a while before more pictures are uploaded to mayhem. I have thought at times to scrap the entire project but I will slowly move on and finish this project and get back on track with the grey funnel line.


Stan :((
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Howard on November 16, 2020, 11:30:17 am
Hello Stan, so pleased you on the your feet again take it easy mate  you make such great models  but as am learning at the moment its a hobby and not a job my hands are a mess the mo but I've knocked modelling the head and hope resting them will let me get going again before Christmas take it easy Stan we can all wait for more pictures later.
             Regards Howard.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 18, 2020, 08:35:38 pm
After my last post I received a rocket from a certain person so I have managed 6 hours on the build this morning. Only four pictures today I have glazed the bedroom windows using a clear blue acetate far better than using clear acetate. In due course curtains will also be fitted
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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: davejo90 on November 18, 2020, 09:48:36 pm
Good to know you're back at it again Stan  :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: raflaunches on November 18, 2020, 10:52:03 pm
Looks fantastic Stan, always admire your work. Such clean and crisp details. :-))
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Howard on November 19, 2020, 11:12:05 am
Glad to see your back up and running Stan your modelling skills are amazing as always.
                  Regards Howard.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 20, 2020, 06:17:53 pm
Today I have tried out some new chrome paint should find out by next week if  it is going to be ok.




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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 24, 2020, 06:02:51 pm
Back on the build should have some pictures later this week. Getting a chrome paint finish is like finding the Covid 19 vaccine lots of trial and error.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: DJW on November 24, 2020, 07:10:47 pm
Evening Stan


Have you tried or considered Nickel plating..? I've not done it since being at school, so a while ago... I'm thinking of trying again. Brass plates really well, and it only involves some white vinegar, some nickel (ebay) and a low 4-6v DC voltage.


Best regards
David.


Its got a bit of a warm tint compared to chrome, but can be polished up quite nicely.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 25, 2020, 05:39:45 pm
HI  just a few pictures today constructive comments on the chrome finish please. I have spent to much time and money on chrome paints this is the final finish and if this fails the rails will be painted white.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: john44 on November 25, 2020, 08:27:04 pm
The chrome looks good Stan I donít think you could improve it it does have a shine to it.
Best chrome paint Iíve seen anyway.


John


Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Ralph on November 25, 2020, 09:24:37 pm
The chrome does look good, sets off the excellent work making the railings.  Can you let the cat out the bag and reveal what you finally used?


Ralph
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 25, 2020, 09:48:42 pm
HI Ralph Yes next week when the railings are finished will give a detailed breakdown.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 26, 2020, 11:20:52 am
Just one picture this morning  showing a section of rail that will be fitted on the fly bridge. Please note this still needs two coat of varnish.




Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 26, 2020, 09:51:04 pm
The rest of the flybridge rails are now in buff etch primer and they need 48 hours to dry.The chrome paint is very thin so going to see if will spray.






Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 27, 2020, 01:35:16 pm
Having spoken to Perkins this morning the chrome paint will not spray very well. So it back to brush application only. Just two pictures showing the glazing applied to inner cabin wall.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 29, 2020, 04:28:55 pm
Just a few pictures today showing the fly bridge rails in etch primer this needs to stand for 24 to 48 hrs this allow the acids to etch into the brass. This morning the chrome finish was applied it now needs 24hrs to fully dry after which gloss varnish will be applied.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 30, 2020, 12:55:45 pm
All the rails are painted in chrome finish just need a few cots of varnish next pictures will be when the rails are fitted.


Stan
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 30, 2020, 01:47:11 pm
 
Soft solder or silver Stan?


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on November 30, 2020, 05:51:57 pm
Soft.


Stan.
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on December 01, 2020, 07:56:08 pm
I hope to fit the rails on Thursday will post pictures I will also post information on the chrome paint used.


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Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: RST on December 01, 2020, 08:31:39 pm
Think you might have let the game away a couple of posts ago but don't blame you for wanting to hold on. That brass work does look good and very convincing with the chrome paintwork!
Title: Re: Stan's - Amati Grand Banks build
Post by: Stan on December 02, 2020, 12:23:46 pm
Just three pictures today showing the material that will make the curtains. The material has been soaked in a diluted PVA solution it is then laid out on a plastic base and allowed to dry. Last picture a box of Dominoes  just a little more detail.


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