Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Pleasure boats, Sports, Race, Power and Leisure Boats: => Topic started by: Stan on August 05, 2019, 10:04:07 pm
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Hopefully this will be the start of my build thread for the above model. Major construction will not start before we enter the winter period. It is very obvious that new materials will have to be used to reduce top weight this will mean many of the parts in the kit will not be used. The first pictures show the build board that will be used to construct the main section of the superstructure. More information will follow when the build starts.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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That's a good solid board you've put together Stan and with plenty of space to get your hands underneath :-))
Regards,
Ray.
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Hi Ray I will be fitting some studs this will allow me to clamp down the base of the superstructure during construction.
Stan
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Just placed a order with prop shop for the running gear now looking for companies the stock thin veneers.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Just placed a order with prop shop for the running gear now looking for companies the stock thin veneers.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Hi Stan.
What prop size have you chosen and what motors do you intend to use?
Popeye
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Hi 30mm 3 bladed may go up to 35mm if needed. Motors are small brushless power will be from lipo batteries.
Stan.
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Just placed a order with prop shop for the running gear now looking for companies the stock thin veneers.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Have you seen this company? Not used them, just logged in case of need.
https://woodveneeruk.co.uk/ (https://woodveneeruk.co.uk/)
Barrie
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Thanks .
Stan.
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Motors and prop shafts and rudder assemblies now purchased. Today I have marked out the locations of the above items. Foam board laminated to make the rudders pictures to follow.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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I hope to have the rudders in place by next week pictures will follow.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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HI rudder posts now in place and 8mm holes drilled in the deck to help lighten the hull weight. Next group of picture will show all running gear fitted.
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Yay - I've been waiting for this to get going Stan. I'm following :-)
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Mind you I think you need to put your glasses on mate as it would seem that you drilled a few holes for the rudder before you found the right place {-)
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I would need big rudder posts. {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Hi Stan
You're off to a good start ,and very neat (as always ), are the hull and deck made from GRP ?
Mind you I think you need to put your glasses on mate as it would seem that you drilled a few holes for the rudder before you found the right place {-)
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I will also be watching
timg
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I would need big rudder posts. {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Or fit 40 rudders Stan - mind you it would turn on a sixpence {-) Looking forward to the next update :-))
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Hi timg the hull is g r p the deck areas are g r p moulded into the hull. Fitted over the drilled areas are the timber deck sections.
Stan.
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First prop shaft fitted masking tape is to stop glue dropping out .
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Shafts and motors are now fitted. The rudder posts are a problem at the moment pictures to follow.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))shafts. {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{Rudders
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Pleased to say shafts and motors are now installed hope to have the rudders in place this weekend.
Stan.
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Any progress is better than none Stan - another neat installation job coming up O0
Regards,
Ray.
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Rudder posts now in place and rudders fitted. Servo mount under construction hopefully some pictures later this week.
Stan.
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The rudder posts and servo now fitted and tested also the fuses fitted these will be on the supply from the battery.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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This morning I have made the tray from plastic card for the R/X gear pictures to follow.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Just a few pictures showing cables fitted to the fuse holders and the plastic tray made to fit the R/X equipment.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Technical info
20 amp b/less motors.
30 amp E S C. 15 amp controllers would not meet the motor needs
18 Amp cable.
Two 15 amp fuses protect all the above.
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Nice work Stan (as usual) :-)) Looks like you have a lot more room with this one.
You just might inspire me to have a go with another boat :}
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Most of the running gear and switches for secondary items are now fitted just some final wiring to finish. Pictures to follow.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Looks good to me but I keep hearing from others huco couplings are bad, particularly with brushless?
Is there any real truth in that? I use huco's myself on brushed but have some devolved into new rubber couplings which I read are mandtory for brushless with wanting to assure way-over scale performance.
Rich
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I use huco on brushless but i set up the shaft to motor with a solid coupling so alignment is spot on also I either wrap the coupling with insulating tape or heat shrink just to make sure it does not explode as technically you should not use them with motors that rec more then 5k...My Models by design Cygnus hull has a brushless with 750 revs per volt and run it at 24v if I feel the need for speed thats 18000 revs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...not broken a coupling yet
Dave
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The brushless motors in this model are small and I understand will rev about 5,000 rpm the couplings are well made. The speed controllers are from MTroniks with good speed control.
Stan
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So Stan and Dave / Stavros then it'ts just the usual -confirm everything in alignment -I also run my brushed motors off a single AA cell and "feel" if they strugle to turn it aint right. Stan, no offence, you just hear so much anti-huco and rubber joint tech these days. I've never had a problem with either.
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Morning Stan
Nice set up your motors
On 7.4 2s lipo 5550 RPM
On 11.1 3s lipo 8325 Rpm
If you run lipo that is :-))
I am watching the build
Jason
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Hi just a few pictures showing first fix of electrical work. Please note the use of Wago 221 terminal blocks no screws to worry about. Speed controllers are from M Troniks and the two way switch from Action. More pictures when full installation is complete.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Excellent work as always Stan, very neat and secure :-))
Regards,
Ray.
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Latest items to fitted in the hull are the two switches that turn on the radio system and speed controllers. On the way a small pump to simulate engine cooling this will need to be tested on a jig pictures to follow.
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All the wiring is now complete and tested.The next job is to lightly sand down the hull to remove any marks made during wiring. Then back on shelf for a while.
Stan.
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Hi RST I have run both motors at full throttle and the couplings seem fine. The most these motors will do is about 5000 RPM.
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I have been today to my local car spares shop and purchased some 3mm windscreen washer parts. Saturday I hope to make a test rig to confirm I can simulate water cooling on two outlets. Hopefully some pictures.
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Hi, message received and very impressed I am too about your securing of parts through the hull. Looks like stabilit express to me? But are you using masking tape round and peeling off each time while it is still green?
Rich
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HI guys just a few pictures today showing the small pump and test rig to determine the final size of brass tube for simulated engine cooling. Next group of pictures show the first steps in superstructure construction. The formers are 5mm M D F these will be remade using 3/16 balsa to lighten the build.
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Looks like a good set up Stan :-))
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What's is that in the image Stan?
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Hi Guys sorry for not explaining what the small fitting is. It is fitted on the suction side of the pump to protect the pump from damage. The filter is in two parts with a fine gauze fitted in one side hope this helps.
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Thanks for that Stan, yeah, better than pulling gunge from the water and into the pump, probably causing damage O0
Regards,
Ray.
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Hi Guys sorry for not explaining what the small fitting is. It is fitted on the suction side of the pump to protect the pump from damage. The filter is in two parts with a fine gauze fitted in one side hope this helps.
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Thinking ahead then Stan :} . What about putting a couple of 'taps' near the outlets for fine tuning the flow?
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Hi RST I have run both motors at full throttle and the couplings seem fine. The most these motors will do is about 5000 RPM.
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They look like Raboesch couplings, which as you say are nicely made and much better than the cheaper huco couplings which I wouldn't risk on anything. I have a couple of the Raboesch ones that I'm going to use on my slower models with brushless motors. I use the metal/rubber couplings in faster models with more powerful motors.
As others have said, very neat electrical installation.
Chris
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One thing to watch out for with the filter is that they corrode when used with water. They are aluminium designed to be used for the fuel lines on glow motors with up to 20% oil in the fuel so will always be oily. When used with water there is no protection against corrosion and the mesh can be blocked unless it is fully dried out after each use.
Jim
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Hi JimG I have two of these already in my models with sign of corrosion. For the amount of time they are used it would take a long time for any damage to take place. But they are maintained not just fitted and forgot but thank you for brining this to my attention.
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HI guys more information for you. This model if built from the box and be used for R/C control will need some major work to lighten the overall weight. Just to give some idea former 8 which is positioned at the rear of the deck section weights 1.1 oz made from 3/16 balsa it weights 0.2 of a oz. Lots of new formers to make. :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :((
Stan.
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Hi guys no I have not dropped of the planet a thing called Christmas is now taking more of my time. Boat building is on the back burner at the moment.
Stan. :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :((but I will be back. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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HI all now back building once again. I have enclosed some pictures of the basic frame work for the superstructure. Most of these parts are having to be made from 2mm and 3mm light ply laminated. Then using the kit formers new ones are cut from light ply I am having to do this to cut down on weight. Cutting new formers makes me want to <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:(
Stan.
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More pictures.
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More picture showing construction of basic cabin shape.The weight without the roofs is only 12 oz a big saving from using 3mm ply.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-))
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Just a few pictures showing the 10mm timber supporting the cabin floor. Magnets are been fitted to hold the superstructure in place finally the first piece of cabin sides.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Great to watch Stan :-))
You’ll be having me building this too {-)
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Such fine and yet very complicated work in a build you are doing there Stan. I am both amazed and very impressed with your skills.
what does an Amati Grand Banks vessel look like, please.
do you have any photographs of an actual ship.
it is a very interesting build, and I look forward to following this build especially to fruition.
thank you, Herbie
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HI Guys just a few pictures from this afternoon. Front roof section now fitted new window section and rear roof cut from plastic card.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Hi guys after a disaster with the front roof section this has now been removed and refitted using 0.75 mm plastic card. The rear steps from the fly bridge are now been made using plastic card the wood ones will end up in the bin. Plastic card is so easy to work with no sealing of wood. I have enclosed pictures from the build instructions showing these steps using ply for construction.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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what does an Amati Grand Banks vessel look like, please.
do you have any photographs of an actual ship.
Amati is a brand of model kits, the real boat is made by Grand Banks Yachts. A photo of a full size one below.
Peter.
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You're making a good job of that Stan :-)) BUT its taking too long - I thought it would be well finished before Christmas. get thah finger oot. {-)
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That’s gonna be an amazing boat when it’s finished Stan.
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HI All my last post before the big day on this build. The rear window section is now glued in place. the steps from the fly bridge have been rebuilt. Just a few pictures showing the steps made from plastic card the treads still need to be fixed. Final pictures show the curved former clamped to fly bridge floor (third attempt) before fixing the remaining parts this proved to be a right ######. Evo Stick resin W used for this operation. Sorry about some of the pictures hopefully Santa may
have a new camera for me.
Stan. This morning I felt like <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( now :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Construction now started on the fly bridge. I found the base for this piece to be to long it overhung the steps checking the plan and build pictures this is not the case. I do not like the timber used on the fly bridge so once again some parts will go in the bin to be replaced by plastic card. Just to give some idea on the weight saving using other materials. Totally building the fly bridge using 1 mm and 3mm plastic card 5.2 ounces built from ply and some p/card 2.4 ounces . The planking on the fly bridge according to the build book is 2mm but the plan it shows 4mm {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ The total weight of the superstructure so far is 1lb 1 ounce.
Stan.
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Hi I am just going to fit some items to fly bridge before closing down for Christmas. I have weighted the seating that is fitted on the fly bridge and it comes in at 6.9 oz,. A small sheet of 1 mm plastic card weights only 2.4 oz so it looks like the seating will be going in the bin and they will be made from p/ card.
Stan. In the bin again <:( <:( <:( <:( remade. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) I hope
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HI All just a few pictures showing the first angled parts fitted to the fly bridge. Also seen the plastic card sheet fitted to one of the bulkheads on the fly bridge. Note the brace on the angled parts can also be seen. Final picture shows the seat profiles marked out on 1mm plastic card the total weight of all the resin seating is 10.1oz
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Thats dedication that is Stan - Do you know if you'll come in under weight yet or is it too soon in the build - happy Xmas :-)
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Hi MarkT so far the total weight of the superstructure is 1lb 1oz. Keeping my fingers crossed and making new items were needed. Some areas of the construction the ply parts are lighter then using P/card.
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Jus a few pictures showing fly bridge parts fitted also the first seat made from P/Card. This kit has some very hard angles to clamp while waiting for the glue to set.
Stan. These parts have been driving me. %% %% %% %% %% %%
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Hi all had a stroke luck this morning I had a fabulous link sent from a uk marina. Lots of pictures showing external internal detail. I now need to find teak timber cut in 2 and 3mm sizes.
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Teak - thats a big ask Stan. I've just had a look at all of my wood suppliers and none of them have any teak in small planks let alone strip wood that we use. I hope you find some - If not I would swap it out for either walnut which would be my preferred choice or mahogany. Cornwall Model Boats have strips of both :-))
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Hi all had a stroke luck this morning I had a fabulous link sent from a uk marina. Lots of pictures showing external internal detail. I now need to find teak timber cut in 2 and 3mm sizes.
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Hi Stan.
Any chance of passing on the UK marina link to which you refer?
It might come in useful for the GB cruiser I'm currently building from Jim Pottinger's plan.
Happy New Year and best wishes,
Popeye
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Hi popeye will do but out of courtesy I will need to contact them to make sure this is ok. Hopefully should have it before the week end.
Stan.
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HI Popeye details sent. Information for any future builders of this model the interior wood work is teak and the deck planks are 1.75 inches. The heritage 46 model went out of production in 2007.I have found a company that will supply 0.6 teak veneer and the deck planks will be stained teak more to follow.
Stan.
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...................................I have found a company that will supply 0.6 teak veneer and the deck planks will be stained teak more to follow.
Stan.
"Seek and you shall find". A quote I seem to remember from somewhere, can't remember where or by whom though. {:-{
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HI all not a great deal done due to the festive season. Just a few pictures showing the curved seat being made from plastic card and the copper wiring fitted for the navigation lamps (first fixing). Last two pictures show a template made to allow a sub roof to be fitted this will enable cabin lights to be installed. And the best place for glued plastic to dry the boiler cupboard.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-))
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Only did as little today the L E D for the top instrument panel is now fitted ( first fix only) and a picture of my tatty L E D tester
Stan.
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Well today I managed to get in a few hours in the garage. I have marked the locations the windows on the rear bulkhead cut them out and lined with ply. Further pictures show the superstructure clamped to the bench this makes working on this location very easy and finally a very untidy work area.
Stan.
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I am now working on the seating for the upper deck area the timber for the deck planking has now arrived along with the light teak stain. Sadly my teak veneer was lost by the courier I am now waiting for a replacement which may not arrive until next week. Pictures this evening show the plastic card sub roof trial fitted. The marked lines will determine the location of the cabin lights. Having this sub roof will give space for the wiring and resistors for various lights.
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HI Guys just a few pictures showing the curved seat made from plastic card. The sub roof is now painted just the frames to pick out in brown. It can then be installed and the lighting can be fitted first picture showing the teak veneer fitted to a roof support.
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Hi all not much done this week due to other commitments.Hopefully back in action next week. Just gone onto w/10 need a dark room.
Stan. <:( <:(
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Hi all sorry for no updates problems with w/10 hope to be in full swing next week.
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I have managed to find a way to upload pictures the long way until the problem is sorted. Just a few showing the sub roof fitted and the resistors in place along with the L E D.
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That's really neat work on those resistors Stan, have you set them in epoxy or some other glue?
Regards,
Ray.
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I have managed to find a way to upload pictures the long way until the problem is sorted...............
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Nice one Stan, where there's a will there's a way :-)) :-))
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HI all no not dropped the planet waiting for my pictures on w/10 to be sorted a pain the *******
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all nice and neat Stan, inspired once again, i can only hope to improve my own work to match ;)
Trucker
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Well finally back in business putting pictures to my post. This group pf pictures show the wiring for the internal cabin area all L E D lighting. Please send a pm if you need any more info.
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Fantastic , jaw dropping stuff Stan, should be in the Master class section..
Well done
Trucker :-))
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Well for the time being the lights are finished now moving on to building the internal furniture. More pictures to follow later next week.
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Stan you should have been an electrician as that is one lovely wiring job :-))
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Well now most of the lights are finished we have to start to kit out the cabin area. The 3mm ply part have been glued together and over lined with 0.8 ply which will be stained light teak. I have to say I have built many models over the years but I am disappointed with this model but onwards and upwards.
Stan. :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( but all will come right :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Managed to do some more furniture building today and i have to say its a good job it is not a beginner putting this model together. I will be glad to see the back of this build. Just a few pictures from today one showing the parts scrapped and rebuilt from other materials.
Stan. <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:(
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Managed to do some more furniture building today and i have to say its a good job it is not a beginner putting this model together. I will be glad to see the back of this build.....................
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Sorry to hear that Stan, your disappointment with this model has shown through quite often in your posts. I'm just glad I'm not attempting this. {:-{
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HI everyone this morning I tried to stain one part of the furniture not happy with the results. With the stain option not giving good results I have laminated some items with the teak veneer and so far so good pictures to follow.
Stan. <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( Yesterday. Maybe later in the week. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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HI all no I not left the planet just totally ****** off with this build. I have now decided to make most of the furniture from plastic card covered with teak veneer.
Stan. <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( At the moment no light at the end of the tunnel.
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This morning I decided to take the bull by the horns and scrap all the furniture made from 3 mm ply with exception off the bench seat. I have now started to make the furniture parts from 1mm plastic card covered in 0.6 teak veneer. The mahogany instrument panel will be made from 3 pieces of teak to blend in with the rest of the woodwork. The first table is now complete just a few shots of this. Please note the table is not fitted on the rear deck.
Stan. :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( A long way to go on this build no thumbs ups for a long time
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Stan,
YOU CAN DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
John.
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That veneer looks really good Stan O0
Regards,
Ray.
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HI Guys just done little today still fixing veneers to plastic card furniture also laminated one side of the cabin sides. I hope to finish the veneer work next week. The work bench could do with a tidy up.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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HI all sorry for no updates laid up at the moment with bad back pain.
Stan. <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:(
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Sorry to hear that Stan - take it easy mate, the boat can wait :-))
Regards,
Ray.
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Stan,
FIX YOUR SELF - - - NOT the Boat :-)) :-)) :-))
John.
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HI All now back in the frame. All I need now is my Valium each morning and i will be fine.
Stan. Last week :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( may be next week if all does not go well with the build. <*< <*< <*< <*< <*< <*<
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Glad to hear your feeling better Stan :-)
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Just a few shots showing furniture in early stages of constructions using teak veneer. The white seats are now painted and varnished ready for the cushions to be fitted more to follow. Sorry about the dirty bench
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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I have built most of the internal furniture but I cannot go any further with the internals until I have been to a dolls house fair in early April. I am now working on the fly bridge hand rails just a few pictures to show how things are going.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Hi all sorry for no posts been busy with other things.
Stan.
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Hi all been sourcing some parts for the internal cabin area just a few pictures. No cheap good quality will be placing more orders with this company.
Stan.
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HI yesterday i did a flotation test with the fly bridge fitted and it is looking good. I have included some pictures showing the planking fitted to the fly bridge area and other locations. This kit certainly needs some modifications to reduce weight.
Stan.
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The fly bridge area is coming on now. I hope to post some pictures this evening.
Stan.
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Pictures showing the fly bridge 60% complete before the paint can be applied. The chrome metal for the fly bridge was very brittle and the small hand rails were just like thick fuse wire no substance in the metal. All the metal parts for hand rails will be replaced with brass just something else I have had to scrap. Final pictures show the internal table and the rear deck section planked.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Bootiful Stan.
Regards Howard.
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Very nice work Stan - you can be justifiably proud of your soldering - looks great. :-))
Also, the close up shots show attention to detail, such as the bolt heads at the bottom of some of the rails.
Regards,
Ray.
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Nice work Stan, you're making a 'silk purse out of a sows ear' of a kit by the looks of it. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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I have to agree its looking great - You will probably be the only person who has a working version of this model.
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I have to agree its looking great - You will probably be the only person who has a working version of this model.
Apart from C-3PO who bought this recently
https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,60223.msg684872.html#msg684872 (https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,60223.msg684872.html#msg684872)
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Stan,
The makers of the "Kit" would not recognize your boat as the same boat that they sell !!.
Attention to Detail is amazing !.
John. :-)) :-)) :-)) .
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Yesterday only small amount of work carried out. The fly bridge wheel proved a little tricky but after soldering the chrome wheel and making a jig to position the inner wheel all went OK. Other pictures table in white primer wind screen frame work with balsa spacers fitted this makes sure the distance all round is the same. Last picture the read deck section fully planked.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Most of the brass wire work is now complete just a few bits to complete on the fly bridge then into the paint shop.
Stan
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Just a few pictures from my build First picture better shot of the wiring in roof for down lights various planking shots and finally the cabin sides. The inner cabin sides are laminated with teak veneer. Forgot to mention picture of the fly bridge in white primer now need to make the windscreen that will be fun. .[/size]
Stan.
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Once again you have come up trumps with your wiring work - very neat and immaculate :-))
Looking good Stan.
Regards,
Ray.
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Picked up the bull by the horns new inner wall made from plastic card. This was then taped in place and outer side fitted and the window openings marked on the plastic card. The other side still to complete after the window openings are cut out the inner wall be airbrushed similar to the teak finish.
Stan.
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Garage is now looking far better just a little done today. First job to remove the grain of wheat bulb in the lamp and replace with a L E D then dry fit the cushion's along with the TV and phone to a piece of furniture[/size]Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Last night I posted a picture of a working table lamp. Tonight's pictures show it fitted to the piece of furniture. Most of the furniture still needs a coat of gloss varnish
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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day off today enjoying the sun shine.
Stan.
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Enjoyed watching your progress so far, very impressive and thanks for the advice about waterproofing the “Fifie”. Still have some glass fibre from the puffer build so will give that a try.
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A bit nit picking but the wood you are using looks to be too light. Looking at you tube videos showing American Trawler yachts they seem to be very high gloss dark wood internally. Makes them look rather old fashioned and dark inside compared to modern designs.
Jim
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HI JIm G I can assure that I have spoken to Grand Banks Europe and they have sent loads of pictures showing the interior and my model uses teak veneer for the cabin internals not the mahogany supplied with the kit. I am trying my best to reproduce something like the real thing not a product of someones imagination. I have no control over the colour of the teak veneer supplied but you can be assured when this model is finished it will be one to be proud of. Please see below reply from Grand Banks.
Stan
Yes all our decks are teak so you right the walnut or mahogany would be too dark. You should be able to buy a teak veneer ( as used on plywood to make it look like a teak board) if not then iroko – similar in colour to teak or at worse a stained obeshi or pine.
AS for the interiors of our yachts they were all teak with some variations on layout to suit the clients requirements.
The 46 Heritage ceased production in 2007 and was replace by the 47 Heritage, this model is also ceased back in 2014 and we are working on a new mid-range model for around 2021/2
Hope that helps.
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After careful thought I have decided to make the fly bridge removable. I have fitted three 2mm brass bolts which will be under the seats. In turn the seats will be held in place with magnets. Pictures show the bolts in position also some pictures showing the fly bridge brass work primed ready for final point job.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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After careful thought I have decided to make the fly bridge removable. I have fitted three 2mm brass bolts which will be under the seats. In turn the seats will be held in place with magnets.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
That's a good idea Stan, never know when you might need access.
I like the sliding doors on the flying bridge as well by the way :-))
Regards,
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Drastic action today not happy with the colour of then internal roof. Removed the plastic light covers masked of the entire area the roof is now in white primer. New colour will be a light grey. I have also stated to make supports for the windshield pictures to follow later this week.
Stan.
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Looking good Stan look forward to seeing her at the lake
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HI Internal roof now has a blue grey finish more work to be done tomorrow will post picture when finished.
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Looking very good Stan :-))
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HI all update on the build. Disaster struck the other day I spayed the hand rails with Humbrol metal cote polished aluminium but it would not polish to a high shine. This meant I had to strip all the rails back to the bare metal now awaiting a new chrome paint .
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HI all update on the build. Disaster struck the other day I spayed the hand rails with Humbrol metal cote polished aluminium but it would not polish to a high shine. This meant I had to strip all the rails back to the bare metal now awaiting a new chrome paint .
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Its so annoying when you buy a product and it doesn't work like you hoped it would. Good luck Stan it'll be worth the work in the end.
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HI The metal hand rails are primed once again and the chrome paint is on its way. Just a few [pictures showing the internal roof in its new blue grey finish and the external cabin sides with the mouldings around the window openings. Finally windscreen supports these are proving to be a problem but we will overcome.
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Lovely work again there Stan. Your 'can do' attitude won't allow this model to defeat you!
She's coming along nicely now. :-))
Regards,
Ray.
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The sun was beating down today too hot for me so into the garage. I have managed to get a lot done today on various parts of the build hopefully some pictures later.
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Still waiting for my chrome paint. Windshield supports still a problem must get these sorted before the fly bridge can be painted and finished.
Stan
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MY Chrome paint arrived but still waiting for the black base These paints tend to be used by plastic model builders will let you all know how they perform. I have to say the brass effect looks top dollar. Bottle size is 30 ml and is pre thinned for air brush use only
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Just two pictures today still, on the dreaded windshield supports but things are looking up. The cardboard will be used to make the final templates for the clear plastic glazing.
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Morning Stan
I'm following your building with interest, seems we're both taking Amati kits then tweaking. I do envy the room that you have to play with in the Grand Banks, my Aquarama is a bit cramped...
Can I ask where you found the fuse board that sits between the motors..?
Best regards
David.
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Lovely attention to detail Stan - as usual :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Templates for the windshield cut from cardboard fitted in place. I do like the purple finish the second picture shows the windshield with the frame also fitted. The next job is to make the side supports then it is paint time. Some of the templates will have to be fine tuned to suite various angles
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A small box arrived today with more items add more detail when the model is finished. Small box big cost.
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Hi Stan I am eagerly following your build process by Grand Bank I am going to start with this kit, I am very excited about how you will paste the hull lists.
That's great what you make a very fine finish
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HI all not much done today out this morning then some urgent electrical work on the den. Just A few pictures showing some detail added to the furniture. The hairdryer will be moved to a better location
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Some great little personal touches to add character to the model. I like the idea Stan, kind of brings the boat to life. :-)
Regards,
Ray.
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I know you said that those parts were expensive...........but wow they look great :-))
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Thank you all for your comments. Today I have been flitting about like a butterfly working on the windshield frame work and the cabin interiors sanding sealing the cabin sides ready for the white primer. Also spent some time on the web looking more 1/24 scale items for this model more to follow later this week.
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HI Guys all building stopped at the moment. Both my garden sheds need some T L C BUT i WILL BE BACK.
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HI Guys the lack of enthusiasm seems have gone for the moment A good time was had on Friday and Saturday. Today it is very cold not been far.
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Morning Stan
Still trying to get the picture of you '...flitting about like a butterfly...' out of my head... {:-{
Anyway, hope you've got the heater running in the shed, maybe had a tidy and found your enthusiasm. :-))
Looking forward to next installment of the build.
Best regards
David.
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HI Guys just a selection of items I have been working on. I hope to fit the inner cabin side with very small screws and the outer cabin side with magnets this will give full access to to the internals of the cabin.
Stan.
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Loads of fiddly bits being worked on there Stan. O0
Like the way you've tackled those louvred vents - always tricky to get those things right but you seem to have found a way. :-))
Regards,
Ray.
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Today I have been making the side screen supports no pictures yet. Also built some brass work to go on the bow finally holes drilled in the main control panel. I hope next week to paint the fly bridge then start detailing
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Well the prep work on the fly bridge is almost finished hope to paint before Friday. I have enclosed some pictures showing the windshield supports and the card templates fitted .The hand rails are now finished with Humbrol metalcote polished aluminium next step varnish these. Other pictures show furniture and aerials just a few little jobs to finish hopefully tomorrow.
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Looks like you've got the interest back, looking brilliant.
John
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HI the fly bridge is now coated in white primer. Gloss varnished the hand rails today first coat sadly i dropped one of them resulting it been covered in dust. Just another day at the office.
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Fly bridge now painted.When its dry all the windshield supports need to be masked off and sprayed with metalcote.
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The fly bridge is finally painted had a few problems yesterday. Now waiting for the paint to dry I will then mask of the windshield supports and spray with a metal finish. Last picture shows the fly bridge wheel mounting was going to be a problem simple answer a M2 brass bolt just solder over the slot nice dome finish.
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HI Guys today's updates I have been masking of the windshield supports ready for spraying with a metal finish paint. The flybridge hand rails have taken back to bare metal not happy with the finish. Tomorrow I will be spaying a test piece with a new chrome paint pictures to follow. I enclosed some pictures showing the masking required to paint the supports.
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HI Further update from the shed. Yesterday i sprayed the windshield supports polished aluminium not a good idea it looked awful. This morning they received a coat of matt white now happy with the finish. Also today magnets fitted under the seats this will allow them to be removed to allow the fly bridge to be removed. I have started to make a sun lounger from plastic strip and the table both for the fly bridge.
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Just found a great picture of a lounger the plastic one may be for the bin.
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HI the fly bridge area is now painted just some small trim to fix then its time to apply the varnish finish. This will be made of 2 parts gloss varnish and one part satin all Humbrol clear cote. Just a few pictures showing the fly bridge with the seating fitted also the instrument panels and the L E D fitted to one of them. Whip aerial also and some small items in a box ready for fitting
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Just one picture tonight showing the fly bridge panel illuminated with a Yellow/ White 2 mm L E D.
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Wow, that's a great looking instrument panel - good work Stan. :-))
Regards,
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Agreed. Nice work Stan. :-))
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Hi Stan, great work as usual. It's a good even light across the panel amazing for just 1 2 mm led.
I have often thought of getting a led tester but never got around to it.
John
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HI today's post I have changed the L E D in the interior control panel. I have used a yellow /white 2mm L E D far better than the orange one. I hope to fit the last pieces of wood trim then its varnish time pictures to follow.
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Hi Just a few pictures showing resistors fitted in various parts of the furniture and one showing the 2mm L E D I use on all my models.
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Impressive detail on your models Stan :-))
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Crikey Stan, that is wonderful work! You remind me of a chap at my local club who builds super detailed models like this with gadgets and details. He fitted a working telly (LCD screen and mini MP3 player or similar) and a radar screen with mini LCD)
Keep that top quality work up mate :-))
Re metallic finishes. You have probably heard of Alclad already, but their system is first rate with microscopic pigment size and super shiny chrome. They do a whole range of metal finishes. http://alclad2.com/
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HI all sorry no further updates at the moment I need a short break.I will be back.
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Well i am now back in the saddle. Just out of interest the scale of this model is 1/20. After looking round on the net i found some 1/24 scale figures but to my shock they measure 3in high far to big. If they are two big then 1/20 scale figures will be like the jolly green giant.m Right some picture from today showing fly bridge and some of the cabin interiors.
Stan.
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Further pictures showing a navigation lamp and the final L E D and wiring fitted in the cabin roof. Both the mast head lights and navigation lamps will be connected with small connectors.Further pictures of the connector blocks used to connect power to all the light functions. In my thread on on L E D it was mentioned about using vero board so i have enclosed as picture showing this I must admit I am not very keen on this method.
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Excellent work Stan, it’s just a pity it will be hidden, :-))
John
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Forgot this one. The dreaded vero board only kidding {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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The figures at 1:24 should be around 3" which is 6ft x 1/2inch = 3". The 1:20 figures would be a bit bigger.
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Hi thank you for reply. But if you read the start of my last post I did mention the height of a 1/24 scale figure and a 1/20 scale figure.
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Nice work Stan :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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HI Guys Just ordered some paper flowers for the internal table pictures to follow later.
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HI I have not lost interest just busy buying wallpaper and paint.
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Not the dreaded decorating, just doesn't hold the same appeal as boat building does it Stan {:-{ :((
Joe
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Joe you are spot on been changing light fittings this morning. The boss is now out so its coffee time then in the shed.
Stan.
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Never mind Stan think of all the Brownie points you'll have O0
Joe
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Stan
Just make sure you do a poor job on the decorating so at least you won't get asked to do it again... Works for me.
Best regards
David.
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Browne points are like the wil of the wisp
vanish in the blink of an eye {-)
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Right gents enough about decorating lets concentrate on the model. Hopefully will be decorating some of it next week.
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Managed to do a little today during the high temperatures. The wiring under the deck is now complete and marked up to correspond with the quad switch. A further 2 way switch will work outputs 5 and 6. I also marked blocks S and C spare and common or minus terminal.
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Hey Stan, are those orange and clear things fuse holders? If so, that is the safest electrical system I have seen on a model boat :-))
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Hi those plastic things are cable connectors used by electricians. No more terminal blocks for me. The ones in the pictures are all going to supply LED lighting.They are made by Wago Germany 221 series.
Stan. Terminal Blocks. <*< <*< <*< <*< Wago. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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HI Guys just a quick post Updates on hold busy decorating. Hope to do the odd hour will post any further work.
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HI Guys I am managing to get the odd hour on the build pictures to follow later this week.
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Finally today I managed to do some more work. First picture shows a sun lounger made from evergreen Plastic this will be placed on the fly bridge.The next challenge is to make all the cabin side removable this will be done using rare earth magnets. A few pictures showing the first magnets fitted to inner cabin wall. Last picture show figures in the fly bridge these will be replaced with figures from Fujimi which i ordered today.
Stan
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Just a few pictures from from this evening. The first inner cabin side in now in place held in place with magnets. You can now see how the outer cabin wall will be sat over the inner wall. Final pictures looking inside the lower deck with the inner wall fitted and what the sun lounger will look like on the fly bridge. Forgot one picture showing parts for the dinghy
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My Fujimi figures arrived today. Picture of the box art work.
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Hi Guys I just tried the Fujimi figures on the fly bridge they are just the job £18 well spent. Must dash out for a nice meal this evening.
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Update for you all. Between decorating I have managed to do a little building will post pictures when time allows.
Stan.
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Hi Stan, I am about to start this same kit having recently abandoned the Riva due to weight issues. Unfortunately with that kit I just didn't realise how overweight Amati kits were until I was to far into the build to put it right. I just wondered if you had a target all up weight for your GB? My guesstimate based on a quick flotation test of the hull + 2Kgs of sugar is about 3.5Kgs. Right now, before I start Dremmel surgery the hull alone weighs just over 1.7Kgs.
I am also thinking of replacing the MDF and ply (particularly any ply which is then veneer covered) with balsa. Obviously the balsa will need to be well sealed but as far as I can see the MDF is used to provide a framework and there just doesn't need to be so mush strength built in.
Your thoughts would be much appreciated.....
Cheers
Spiney
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Hi Spinney pm sent.
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HI all sadly not a great deal done over the last few weeks. The sun lounger is painted and the fabric top is ready to fit. Next job make a towel to go on the lounger the magnets needed to make one side of cabin wall removable are now in place
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Topic reamed :-))
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Hi all hope to be back on this build next week. Most of my jobs done for the time been.
Stan. :-))
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Just slowly making a start the dinghy now looks like Swiss cheese. I have drilled a series of 7mm holes in the underside to make it lighter more on this later.
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HI managed to install and wire up the Action quad switch today and terminate the cables at a six way plug. These cables will take power to all the electrical functions pictures to follow.
Stan.
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Pictures showing the Action quad switch and the cables attached to the six pin plug. These cables will power all the lighting fitted to the model and also take power to a second switcher unit.
Stan. Very puzzling this electricity. {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{
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just started on the mast how do you fit small cables in a wood mast?
Stan.
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Morning Stan
Looking good... Re the mast, can you make a slot up say the back of the mast using small sawblade maybe then put the wires in, and then fill or put a slice of same wood in..?
Best regards
David.
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HI Dave this may be the only way I can do this. Once the cables are in a good quality wood filler may be the answer to make good the area. Pictures to follow.
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Stan, there is standing and running rigging to the top of the mast, could this be your solution to getting power to the masthead light?
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HI Spinney. I have made a channel in the wood to fit the copper cables I will post pictures of this later. In the mean time just a few pictures showing the radar support bracket. I have binned the 2 mm copper tube and made the bracket from 1mm brass rod. Other pictures show the yard arms on the mast these are going to be binned and made from ply. Finally just a few items to give more detail to the model.
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I asked a question a few weeks ago about fitting wiring down a wood mast. Just a few pictures showing how I fitted the copper wires. Finally a few pictures of the inside table showing some detail including beer mats and the flower pot.
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Licorice Allsorts, my favourite %%
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I trust you’re planning a backlight on the e-reader Stan 🤓
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HI Spinney. I think that may be a bridge to far but who knows.
Stan. O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0
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I hope to have the mast finished this week. Pictures to follow on other parts of the build later this week.
Stan.
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The work on fitting the cables is now finished and the cut out areas filled and sanded smooth. The boom will be made next and a few fittings need to be fixed the in to the paint shop. The fly bridge is almost complete crew figures need painting and fitting. Just a few pictures showing the copper wire in the mast eight cables in total and some of the fly bridge spot the chocs .
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Very nice job Stan your attention to detail is amazing
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Thank you Mark for your comments. The mast is now complete just a few fittings to fit on the boom. I have tested all the mast lights after filling in the cables all working fine pictures to follow.
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Just a few shots of the mast and boom. All the work is finished next step paint shop then fix to the fly bridge and wire up the lights. One shot looking at the internal table with the bench seat behind. Forgot to mention ash in ash tray just needs the cigarette to finish it off
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The mast and boom are primed with white primer. Pictures will follow when the mast is ready to be fitted.
Stan
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The sanitizer bottle was a super relevant touch and will jog the future observer's memories of this horrid year.
To answer a previous member's suggestion about using copper cored cables/wires as rigging, it might work harden and then snap creating a bad connection. It can be used in non stress areas to actually recreate conduit runs painted as metal or plastic tube.
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Knowing Stan there's probably sanitiser in the bottle, I've already had to go out and buy some Liquorice Allsorts %%
Joe
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Mmmm :-))
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Just a few pictures showing the final layout of the tables may tweak them a little more. Last group of pictures during a ballast test done in the bath looking good so far. The pencil lines shows the position of the water on the hull both at the stern and bow. Most of the heavy work is now finished on the cabin area. No doubt I will scrap most of the timbers used on the hull and use plastic card instead. I need to change my camera sorry if some of the shots are not clear
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) The light at the end of the tunnel is getting nearer
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Update on the build the paint job on the mast is complete. Next step apply the varnish then fit to fly bridge and wire up the mast lights pictures to follow.
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Just two pictures showing the mast cable been inserted to duct to the fly bridge and last picture mast fitted to fly bridge deck. A word of caution for any future builder the base of the mast needs to be larger this will give a better gluing area.
Stan.
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The lighting for the mast is now complete. I now need to complete some more soldering then power up the radio and check all the lights work. The inflatable supplied in kit is now in the bin the new one is been made from 3/4 balsa rod pictures to follow.
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Looks great Stan what a lovely job :-)
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Good news the light wiring is now completed just needs a tiding up under the fly bridge just three shots of some of the lights Also a picture of the resin dinghy in the bin.
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Lights are looking great Stan. Very neat wiring. A very neat build. Can't wait to see the finished boat mate!
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Thank you for your comments on the wiring. The Action switchers have worked fine more to follow.
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Hi latest update rear section of cabin now in white primer ready for final white enamel finish. Still waiting for my teak veneer should been delivered Friday phone call to supplier on Monday morning.
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Sailed the hull only this morning the brushless motors worked fine. No more updates this week due to work indoors.
Stan. <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:(
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Just two pictures.
1 New teak veneer ready to fit on the hand rails.
2 The new dinghy made from 3/4 balsa dowel.
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Today a disaster while in the garage a large lock fell of the shelf straight into the hull. This bent a rudder arm and all the push rods are bent beyond repair.
Stan. <:( <:( <:(
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Sorry to hear that Stan, I do envy the pictures from members with dedicated hobby rooms.
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All my models are built in the garage. I tend to have purge and tidy after new models are completed. I was banned from building models in the house years ago due a super glue incident.
Stan.
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Today a disaster while in the garage a large lock fell of the shelf straight into the hull. This bent a rudder arm and all the push rods are bent beyond repair.
Stan. <:( <:( <:(
What a bummer! I feel for you Stan - been there myself, only my weapon of destruction was a heavy torch.
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Hi Stan, It sounds like the rudder linkages saved the hull, and you will repair as new.
Joe.
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Looks like my build is sympathising with you Stan, whilst installing the magnets for the flybridge I noticed that the plastic control arms at the top of the rudder tubes have split where they bolt on to the rudder posts. The ones I used are actually from the Riva motorising kit so that’ll be another Amati component in the bin. I’ll either buy or fashion new new ones from aluminium, at least I noticed before the boat failed on a pond.
I should be able to post pictures of the cabin and flybridge wiring layout tomorrow with magnets installed.
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I feel for you Stan I've had something similar happen in the past. I know you will get it sorted though :-)
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Thank you for comments should be back on the build next week. The damage should take about half a day to correct.
Stan.
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Hi all update on the damage I may have make a new brass tiller arm and a new push rod . Not sure if the lock may have done damage to rudder tube and possibly the servo will no more next week.
Stan. <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:(
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Hi just a few pictures showing dinghy build so far. Construction is from 3/4 balsa dowel 1/8 balsa sheet and 1mm ply the dinghy will be covered with f/g tissue and resin later. Last picture filler on rear roof to get rid of damage to plastic sheet.
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Today I checked the damage after the the big lock fell from a great height on to the rudder linkages. I am please to say the only damage was to the push rods and tiller arms. The servo and rudder tubes are fine just need to refit the tiller arms and new push rods.
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Just a few pictures from this morning showing the glazed front windshield. Other pictures show the etch frets to make the wipers these need to made painted and glued in place then the completed unit can be glued in place. You may notice my etch bending tool not the cheapest but well worth it.
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Could do with one myself :-)) I wasn't sure what it was in the pictures at first.
Looking good Stan
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Hi Tarnis this is my brass etch bending tool not the cheapest but well worth the money and was bought locally. You may be able to get it cheaper on line. Just been using it to bend the wipers on my Grand Banks
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HI all back doing a little today just made the internal steps that are located in the cabin.Scrapped the dark timber made the steps from lite ply and laminated with teak pictures tomorrow.
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Hi guys build on hold for a short while.
Stan. <:( <:(
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Trucker
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No all is well.
Stan
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The build at the moment is almost at a standstill and will be for around 2 weeks. I may have chance to snatch the odd hour.
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Hi all hope to be back on the build next week.
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Today finally restarted the build.
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Today I have sprayed the rear section of the cabin now needs a coat of varnish. Next step fit the rear glazing plus some more detailing pictures to follow.
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The rear section of the cabin is now finished and glazed. Working on some more detail for this section. Just a few pictures showing the this area and the dinghy made from 3/4 in balsa dowel the covered in glass tissues and resin.
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Sad news all the brass hand rails are scrapped.I am going to remake them all the paint job was c==p now looking at other options more to follow.
Stan <:( <:( <:( <:(
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Stan what happened?? The build looks great!
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The paint finish was not to my liking it did not look right I am going to try other options.
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Would getting them properly chromed be in the budget?
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Hi spinney simple answer no
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All the new hand rails are rebuilt they need tidying up and then cleaned with a metal cleaner. After that a brass etch primer will be applied and they will be left for 3 days to dry. Last picture is the rib but not happy with the grey scheme now back in white primer for the moment. I intend to try various chrome finishes on a scrap piece of brass to get the best finish.
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HI all my building has now stopped and gone into the experimental stage. For the next week I will be trying different chrome finishes when i find the best I will post details.
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Have you looked at some of the chrome paints used in the full size custom industry.https://www.stardustcolors.co.uk/chrome-paint/141-chrome-effect.html (https://www.stardustcolors.co.uk/chrome-paint/141-chrome-effect.html)Have never used it but it looks like a really good finish although very expensive.
Jim
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I bought a Humbrol tinlet of so called Chrome paint despite thoroughly mixing it I saw no difference to their Silver paint.
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HI Guys looking at chrome pens by Molotow and chrome plaint by Alclad. I have contacted Molotow now awaiting a reply. While all this going will be back on the build next week. It is certainly 1 step forward and 50 back with this model.
Stan.
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Two sections of brass rod now painted with brass etch primer. Next step on one end gloss black followed by Alclad chrome on the other the chrome pen more to follow.
Stan
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HI just a quick update on tests carried out. The chrome pen worked fine but even after allowing a long time to dry it still lost its shine when handled. The chrome paint used by plastic model builders also did not work very well. After a visit to my local model shop today I found a further silver paint which I will try and feed back the results.
Stan.
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Good morning all from soon to be in tier 3 lockdown. I have tried numerous chrome paints and i have to say I have some good results but they tend to fail when a varnish is applied. Some tend to go dull just by touching even before a top coat is applied. At the present I am testing a further paint which can be applied by brush and dries totally after 24 hrs. Earlier tests using this paint shows it also does not like enamel based varnish so the next step is to use an acrylic based varnish more to follow.
Stan. {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ soon :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Hi all no I have not dropped of the planet busy at the moment with internal plumbing work back soon.
Stan.
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Are we talking your house or Grand Banks, cos I wouldn't be surprised if you were fitting central heating in her. %% {-) {-)
Joe.
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HI Joe no in the house but a further development fell of the ladder this morning twisting my right knee now in very bad pain.
Stan. <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( [size=78%] [/size]
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ho dear sorry to hear that Stan, been there done that last year hitting my side on the cooker and cracked a rib that was painful too, I try to steer clear of steps/ladders now, hope your better soon.
Joe.
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Hello Stan,
I do hope you are going to get your knee checked by a DOCTOR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
John. O0 O0 O0
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Hi all just a update no model building for the time being due to a knac---- knee. Still giving lots of pain.
Stan.
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HI all I hope to be back on the build next week. With regards to the metal hand rails I checked with Grand Banks Europe today to see if any of them were ever painted simple answer no. Up to the nineteen eighties teak rails were fitted beyond that stainless steel rails replaced teak. So next week it will be back trying to find a paint . I also checked with a chrome platter to see if my rails could be chromed simple answer no they could not guarantee the results. Onwards and upwards.
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HI back on the build my knee is still giving pain. But you cannot fall of a ladder while in the garage.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Keep going Stan--a good high stool works for me. :-))
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Good to know you're back at it Stan. Great work so far on this project
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HI Guys first pictures for a long time. Do you remember the dinghy covered in glass fibre? Well just a couple showing it painted white and the teak seat fitted in place. The masking will be for a blue line to be applied later.
Stan.
Good to be back. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Second set of pictures show the wiper blades that will be fitted to the front windscreen after they have been painted. Last pictures are of the chair that will be in the main cabin. It needs painting and fitting and more detail applied next major job to make 15 sets of curtains.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Hi John 44 thank you very much for bringing to my attention the defect in the chair build. I will rectify this before applying the final finish we all make mistakes but it is not the end of the world far from it. I prefer to know about any defects so thank you.
Stan. :(( :(( :(( :(( Silly me but later. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) all will be fine]
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Hi all I thought after finishing all my work around my house it would be all go with my build. Sadly this is not the case progress is slow it may be a while before more pictures are uploaded to mayhem. I have thought at times to scrap the entire project but I will slowly move on and finish this project and get back on track with the grey funnel line.
Stan :((
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Hello Stan, so pleased you on the your feet again take it easy mate you make such great models but as am learning at the moment its a hobby and not a job my hands are a mess the mo but I've knocked modelling the head and hope resting them will let me get going again before Christmas take it easy Stan we can all wait for more pictures later.
Regards Howard.
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After my last post I received a rocket from a certain person so I have managed 6 hours on the build this morning. Only four pictures today I have glazed the bedroom windows using a clear blue acetate far better than using clear acetate. In due course curtains will also be fitted
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Good to know you're back at it again Stan :-))
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Looks fantastic Stan, always admire your work. Such clean and crisp details. :-))
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Glad to see your back up and running Stan your modelling skills are amazing as always.
Regards Howard.
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Today I have tried out some new chrome paint should find out by next week if it is going to be ok.
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Back on the build should have some pictures later this week. Getting a chrome paint finish is like finding the Covid 19 vaccine lots of trial and error.
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Evening Stan
Have you tried or considered Nickel plating..? I've not done it since being at school, so a while ago... I'm thinking of trying again. Brass plates really well, and it only involves some white vinegar, some nickel (ebay) and a low 4-6v DC voltage.
Best regards
David.
Its got a bit of a warm tint compared to chrome, but can be polished up quite nicely.
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HI just a few pictures today constructive comments on the chrome finish please. I have spent to much time and money on chrome paints this is the final finish and if this fails the rails will be painted white.
Stan. {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ Chrome finish that's it
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The chrome looks good Stan I don’t think you could improve it it does have a shine to it.
Best chrome paint I’ve seen anyway.
John
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The chrome does look good, sets off the excellent work making the railings. Can you let the cat out the bag and reveal what you finally used?
Ralph
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HI Ralph Yes next week when the railings are finished will give a detailed breakdown.
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Just one picture this morning showing a section of rail that will be fitted on the fly bridge. Please note this still needs two coat of varnish.
Stan.
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The rest of the flybridge rails are now in buff etch primer and they need 48 hours to dry.The chrome paint is very thin so going to see if will spray.
Stan.
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Having spoken to Perkins this morning the chrome paint will not spray very well. So it back to brush application only. Just two pictures showing the glazing applied to inner cabin wall.
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Just a few pictures today showing the fly bridge rails in etch primer this needs to stand for 24 to 48 hrs this allow the acids to etch into the brass. This morning the chrome finish was applied it now needs 24hrs to fully dry after which gloss varnish will be applied.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) hopefully
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All the rails are painted in chrome finish just need a few cots of varnish next pictures will be when the rails are fitted.
Stan
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Soft solder or silver Stan?
(https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=63493.0;attach=206331;image)
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Soft.
Stan.
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I hope to fit the rails on Thursday will post pictures I will also post information on the chrome paint used.
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Think you might have let the game away a couple of posts ago but don't blame you for wanting to hold on. That brass work does look good and very convincing with the chrome paintwork!
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Just three pictures today showing the material that will make the curtains. The material has been soaked in a diluted PVA solution it is then laid out on a plastic base and allowed to dry. Last picture a box of Dominoes just a little more detail.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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HI All the hand rails are now all fitted. The finished rails do have shine but they will never be like a pure chrome finish but that's it no more messing about. The silver paint is from Perkins Models sold under the name of guild line. The only down side it cannot be used with your airbrush which if possible would give a better finish than brush painting. I have to say I will be glad to see the back of this build and get back the grey funnel line.
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Those railings really do look good. Wish I could do brasswork to that standard.
Thanks for the heads up on the chrome paint.
Ralph
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Thank you Ralph for your comments. The next fiddly job to make the curtains no mean task but what the heck just have battle on. Or It may be easier to make venetian blinds instead.
Stan. I do miss the grey funnel line. :(( :(( :(( :(( :((
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I'm loving the detail you're putting into the build Stan :-))
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Hi Stan, the chrome work looks great and the dingy looks very good
John
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The curtains that should be in the cabin area have now been consigned to the bin sounds familiar . Now in the process of making blinds to fit in the cabin area pictures to follow.
Stan.
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Todays jobs to extend all the holes on the hull to reduce weight and make a support for the lipo battery. I am having a break from working on the superstructure hope to have considerable amount on the hull done by next week.
Stan. Its been a good day today on the build. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Tidy stuff as usual Stan, :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Yesterday work commenced on the hull fitting various timber parts hopefully some pictures later. Still working out how to make the blinds {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{
Stan
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Only a small amount of time today to do any work just a few pictures showing the timber fitted on the bow area. Last picture shows first stage of the venetian blind construction.
Stan.
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After a busy morning I just managed the odd hour this afternoon. This allowed me to fit the first part of timber to the external keel pictures to follow on Sunday.
Stan.
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HI after such a wet and cold day I have managed to get my garage warm enough to work in. The timber strips are now glued to the bottom of the hull note the screw at the bow this held the timber in place and allowed it to be bent around the hull. Small clips were used along the full length of the hull to secure the timber until the glue dried. Hopefully over the next few days the timber will be cleaned up ready for the hull cladding to be fitted.
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Fair play Stan, you must have some patience.
Hand rails look really good. Yes, they may not be a shiny chrome finish, but the way they've come out still looks really good on the boat.
The amount of detail you're putting in is fantastic.
Looking forward to seeing the finished article, as are you by the sounds of things.
Keep up the good work.
Will
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It's coming on very well Stan :-))
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Nothing done today had a trip to Machine Mart to buy more clamps.
Stan.
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Tonight I have glued the first piece of timber to the hull what a job. Clamping proved to be not easy will post pictures tomorrow.
Stan
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Sorry guys I did promise some pictures but Christmas jobs have taken preference over model building. Hope to have some on early next week.
Stan. :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :((
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Hi the hull planking is now well on the way just a few pictures showing the first planks glued in place. The infill between them is 1mm plastic strip not the 1mm wood supplied in the kit. More to follow later this week.
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Hi Stan.
Just a quickie....what adhesive are you using for the hulls' wood planking and plastic infill strips?
Regards,
Popeye
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HI Very thin superglue and activator.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-))
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Hi Stan that planking looks lovely - what's the plan? Does it get a coat of varnish to show it off? I hope so :-))
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Hi MarkT sadly no it will be sealed and painted just like the full size. One side is fully planked will post pictures later.
Stan. :(( :(( <:(
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Hi MarkT sadly no it will be sealed and painted just like the full size.
Stan. :(( :(( <:(
Oh well we'll know what's underneath and Im sure it'll look amazing ;)
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HI MarkT thank you for comments on the planking I hope to start on the other side tomorrow. Last night I placed a order with C M B for the material to cover the stern section. A visit to the model shop Leeds this morning to purchase some evergreen plastic strip to make the venetian blinds.
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Order in the post from C M B now down to the Royal Mail. Just two pictures showing my first attempt at making the blinds a bit of a disaster the second attempt is looking far better. I have had to use thicker plastic strip but it will look ok
Stan
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Hi Stan, I see what you mean about that first blind. It looked like the window was left open during a Gale {-) {-)
John
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Hi John I think you mean a hurricane.
Stan. :D {-)
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HI John just removed the new blind from the jig looks a little better than the first one only 7 more to make.
Stan
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HI will be shutting down this post over Christmas should be back in the new year. Until then thank you for your comments on this build.
Stan.
Kirklees M B C.
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Blinds look good Stan, they're going to make a big difference to the overall look.
Have a good Christmas.
Will
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HI happy new year to you all. Now that the festive season has finished I hope to be back on the build next week.
Stan.
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And a Happy and Safe New Year to you Stan. That nice Mr Hancock has told me that we'll be able to meet this year {-) Tony
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Today it has been cold and the snow is falling but I've been in the garage doing a little. I have spent most of the day fairing in the props shafts and p frames also filling one side were the planks meet the bottom of the hull also some work on the front platform.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) but cold
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After a very cold morning I ventured in to the garage once again to carry on sanding the hull but the cold was to much. Just two pictures today showing the life rings fitted to the top rails. Second picture shows what the model will look like when the side skins are fitted.
Stan. :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( Brass monkey weather at the moment
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Coming together quite nicely now Stan.
John
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It's looking very good Stan
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HI all the sanding on the hull is almost finished. Hopefully today I hope to plank the stern section and also fit the blinds to one side of the cabin.
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Great work Stan and all starting to take some real shape now too.
Will
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Update from today the transom is now planked and the cabin venetian blinds are ready to be fitted. The blinds are painted cornflower blue pictures to follow when fitted. I have taken the planks on the stern lower than the plan shows hopefully this will make masking the water line easier.
Stan.
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Looking fantastic Stan :-))
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Not a model boat day today Christmas items to take down and put away. Last night some of the blinds were fitted in place just a few pictures.
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Hello Stan and happy new year , hope the shows are back on this year as i have not seen you for ages , Please could you tell me what the Gray glue have used on your P frames and around your hull Best Regards Dave
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Hi Dave the grey stuff is filler Stabalit Express was used to fix the prop shafts .The side planking was fitted using thin super glue hope this helps.
Stan.
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Once again the cold weather has stopped my work in the garage. So it is inside for a while just two pictures showing the inner skin glued in place.
Stan.
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Sorry all nothing done today heavy snow all day and very cold.
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Saturday spent most of the day moving snow and gritting the road. In the garage for the last few hours of daylight laminating the hand rails with teak veneer. just two pictures showing the rails clamped to a building board and final picture of the teak veneer.
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Hi sorry no updates been very cold here. All of my building work is done in the garage. I would love to have a nice warm area to build in sadly this not the case just need a better coat.
Stan.
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Hi sorry no updates been very cold here. All of my building work is done in the garage. I would love to have a nice warm area to build in sadly this not the case just need a better coat.
Stan.
Could be a while too Stan as the weather people are saying we are going to get another beast from the east later this week. Stay warm and safe Stan
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Hi Dave I think your last reply was jinxed snow all day and cold but I braved the elements and did a little. Currently I am laminating the hand rails with teak veneer a slow job but hopefully worth it.
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What can I say Stan...I'm a regular Michael Fish...no there wont be any hurricanes coming {-)
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We all know what happened to M/S don't give up your day job.
Stan. {-)
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I am gluing the veneer to the hand rails but one slight problem. I am using P V A and it does not like the cold so its glue the item then straight indoors to allow the glue to cure. Second problem the gas bottle is running out cold garage until I can get a replacement.
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Today I have placed the cabin back on the hull. Just a few pictures to show how the model looks still a lot to do. You may notice now using the new building board
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Looking very very nice, a credit to the time and hard work you have put into it.
Well done Stan. :-))
John
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HI All sorry for the lack of pictures lately. At the moment still struggling to find a way to attach the other cabin side using magnets.
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Hi Stan;
I am preferably using a roller catch when attaching a cabin to the deck.
Take this 1m semi-scale cabin cruiser for instance.
In the picture,two roller catches are seen on both sides.Actually one more is at the stern.
Three points roller catches are holding the cabin securely,even on the windy and rough surface
of the lake in winter seen below. %%
The bow went into the water frequently and the wave struck the bow fiercely and repeatedly
as she was sailing fast...
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She's coming along fab Stan!
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Update from a cold garage just in the process of fitting the last pieces of teak veneer on the capping rails. Pictures to follow later this week.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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First picture showing the amount of clips needs to carry out the fitting of the teak veneer to capping rails this has be done 4 times per rail. Last pictures are shots of the hull and super structure the hull is ready for the sanding sealer to be applied to the wood work.
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Well all the veneer work is now complete next step some paint work to be done then full speed ahead on the hull paint work .
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I sorry for no pictures lately not much to show at the moment possibly later this week.
Stan. :(( :(( :((
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Today we were greeted with more snow and fog so no work in the garage. The continued build was done indoors jus three pictures showing the fitting of planks to hull decks. Bending straight planks around a curve is a task in itself and trying to use P V A in cold weather is difficult with this in mind I am using deluxe Canopy glue to stick the planks to the ply base.
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Hi Stan;
I'm so sorry about your working conditions by which you seem to have been obliged to build the boat. {:-{
The working originally should have been more enjoyable and done in good circumstances backed up
with the weather conditions.
It is rather warm here in Tokyo where it is normally 0 through 4 degrees C outdoors at the coldest.
Hoping you the best result of the boat regardless of the weather conditions.!! :-)) :-)) :-))
Backerther
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Hi Backerther thank for your comments. The uk weather at times does stop my building in the garage. I can do small items in the house during bad weather.
Over the years despite the weather my garage has been the home of my model building
Stan
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Planking the deck sections is not such a simple operation I decided not to use the glue in the last picture back to P V A glue. The problem is spacing the planks when going round the curve section.
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HI Guys due to other events and the cold weather this build will be on hold until the end of the month. But I will be back
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Hi guys when I return hopefully there will be lots of pictures to show you all.
Stan.
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Thankfully I am building small parts indoors when I return fully at the end of the month hopefully lots of pictures.
Stan
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Hi all I have decided to get back in the garage and resume the build. I have got rid of the work mate erected a 6ft table and fitted a plastic screen to split the garage. Fitting the screen will allow me to work in a warm area during the cold spell.
Stan. :-)) :-))
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Three pictures showing the table that will be used in future along with the new building board. The gas fire is just the job with the plastic screen down and finally the screen in the folded position. This combination allows work to carry on in the coldest of weather. Just be aware turn of the fire if using flammable items .
Stan. last week cold weather made me feel like <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( now :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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HI Guys back on the build now just two pictures showing the planking fitted on the ply deck and the teak capping rails. Bending straight planks around curves was a problem.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) Glad to be back
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You’re nearly there Stan, must admit that gas heater looks inviting. :-))
John
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Bending straight planks around curves was a problem.
Your not wrong there Stan, what a pain it is however, looks like you've made a fine job of it. :-))
Regards,
Ray.
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A little more done today first pictures show the woodwork attached to the hull most of this will be painted over. Next pictures show the large amount of clips needed to hold the small trim fitted on the deck.
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Good to see you back Stan :-))
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At Present I am in the process of fixing the capping rails to the hull pictures to follow.
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Just a selection of pictures from today showing various parts of construction.
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Looking good so far Stan and those blinds add a nice touch too. :-))
Ray.
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Looks great Stan :-))
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Yes it’s looking great Stan those blinds look better than curtains.
Soon be finished mate but I think how it looks is well worth the effort you have put in to it, superb work. :-)) :-))
John
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Todays work did not start until 3pm so not a lot done. The third capping rails is now in place two of the rear supports are now fitted to the platform these have a brass pegs fitted to give extra strength. When these are fitted they will have pins fitted going into the hull again giving more strength.
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Latest problem uncounted Humbrol white 34. I have been using tins that are stamped matt 34 yesterday running low on these tins so I used a tin marked with a label matt 34. To my shock the shade was nothing like the earlier paint used so I now need to find tins stamped matt 34.
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Well, I have been building model boats for nearly 40 years and like to think I am quite good at it, but your skill level is on a different plane Stan. Quite simply stunning....
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He makes me feel quite inadequate Barry, the attention to detail is outstanding.
Peter.
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He makes me feel quite inadequate Barry, the attention to detail is outstanding.
Peter.
Inadequate......that was the word I was looking for Peter...
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Inadequate......that was the word I was looking for Peter...
I’m glad to be of assistance Barry :}
I’m really enjoying this build. I scratch built a Grand Banks about 10 years ago, and I was quite happy with my effort, but Stan puts mine to shame
Peter.
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Hi I have now fitted the first hand rails around the hull and also the deck planking. A word of warning if you are buying a large amount Humbrol paint and it is the same colour please make sure the batch numbers are the same. The numbers are on the bottom of the tin I will now have to repaint the cabin area due to shade differences.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) paint <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:(
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Just one picture showing one of the glues used by me. Stixall is used in the construction industry along with other industrial glues they can used with good results.
Stan.
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HI sorry no pictures lately to busy repairing other members models.
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Keep up the good work Stan-me-Lad! :-))
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HI Guys build on hold for a short while due to fitting other peoples models.
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Still fitting out other peoples models hope to be back on Grand Banks by the end of this week.
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HI all just had a pm asking if I have dropped of the planet no finishing off other peoples models.
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Sorry I sent the search party out {-)
Three days without a log in :-)
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Feels like a month refitting those models.
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The last of the models I have been refitting will be gone on Saturday morning then it is back to the Grand Banks.
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All the refit models have now gone. Back on with this build pictures later.
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Looking forward to seeing you back on it Stan :-))
Ray.
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This afternoon I have applied the first cote of gloss varnish to the hull hand rails further cotes will be needed to get a good gloss finish. Other pictures show the fancy scroll work which is made from laminated teak then cut to shape and sanded to the profile. Finally the three large clamps which are holding down laminated teak this will become the stern name plate.
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Last bits of the day the remaining blinds now made pictures tomorrow.
Stan.
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It's good to hear you've cleared the workshop of others models, now you're able to concentrate on your Grand Banks - good work so far Stan :-)
Ray.
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Now working on the wood handrails and the stern light along with rear jack staff. Pictures later.
Stan
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Nice work so far. Isn't teak just the best wood to work with? I just love the stuff, it is stable, cuts and sands beautifully, and I hoard every bit I can get hold of! Also, varnished, much nicer than that nasty old mahogany %)
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Yes the teak is a far better looking wood than mahogany The kit version is all mahogany but the full size vessel is finished with a teak finish. I purchased the teak veneer from a company in Bristol not cheap but well worth it.
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Today the sun was shining very pleasant so most of the day was spent model building. I started to fit the upper hand rails quite a fiddly job just managed one side. Name plate fastened on the stern and just some general shots of the hull.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Very little done today just one picture showing position of the stern light.
Stan.
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... and that brings you one step closer to completion Stan :-)
Ray.
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After many conversations about this model being too heavy, I was worried about the weight of detailing the cabin area affecting how this would sit in the water. A bath test this morning with the drive battery fitted proved I had no need to worry everything looks fine. The remaining items that need to be fitted are very light and should pose no problems. In view of my findings the problems expressed about weight can be overcome firstly by drilling 10mm holes in the deck supports making the fly bridge furniture from plastic card and the dinghy from balsa. All the interior furniture is made from plastic card and most of the cabin constructed from lite ply. I have done nothing inside the hull other than fit all the running gear and electronics. There is no need to grind out the hull interior to reduce weight. Fit B/Less motors not big heavy brushed type motors The battery could be a lipo or Nimh. Just three pictures showing how the model sits in the bath and one aerial shot. Forgot to mention the pencil lines on the stern show the water line position the yellow tape is the location of the rear platform. This kit is heavy but with simple modifications and material changes problem solved
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Hi all the model is now back in the workshop. The next stages of the build are quite time consuming so pictures will be a little slow in being posted more to follow.
Stan.
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Well done Stan O0 I know that you were very worried about the weight and you've done it :-)) This model looks superb!!!!!
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I know your model has a much higher level of detail than mine Stan, but I found that the displacement of the hull could cope with quite a lot of weight. I use a 6v 12A/h SLA battery in mine, plus two motors and the obligatory ESC, and she sits on the waterline perfectly. She also has a very realistic turn of speed and is very manoeuvrable with her twin rudders.
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Hi Stan, as you said the ballasted boat sits perfect on the waterline.looking forward to seeing
photos of her on the lake. :-))
John
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After a lazy morning I decided to do some more work on G/Banks. All the top rail supports are now fitted the rails just need a few coats of gloss varnish. Also this afternoon marked out the position of the rear platform and did a dry test fit.
Stan :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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The teak wood filler ordered on line arrived today so tomorrow it will be back to business.
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Work this week is all about varnish on the hand rails. I need to apply further coats indoors were its warm just one picture from the stern.
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Hi all still applying the varnish to the hand rails. Next job to make the scrolls that are fitted on the ends of the rails and the metal work for the front platform then the paint shop.
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your picture in the 3/25 post looks beautiful Stan.
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Hey Stan I managed to get it to load the images. Stan thank you for calling it really is appreciated. Love the build, it’s been said before but it’s worth saying again I haven’t seen anything that comes close to your build quality and attention to detail. I can’t wait to see Grand Banks on the water.
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The next steps in construction are now taking shape sorry for the pun. I have had to make new scroll items that are fitted on the top hand rails. These have been made from laminated teak veneer and cut and sanded to shape. Brass pins have been fitted to give a more secure joint. Prior to fitting a small amount of wood filler is applied to one face when brought together this squeezes out filling any gaps this is then sanded to match the rail. Final picture shows were the timber strips will be applied to represent the stern door. The final coats of varnish will be sprayed to give a better finish.
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I have been trying to find flour paper for a while most DI Y shops say never heard of it. Once again the thanks to the net I have finally located the said paper at a jewellers supply outlet. You may ask what is flour paper a very fine grit ideal for getting a really smooth finish. I have taken the plunge and ordered 10 sheets.
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aka "Glass paper"
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Flour paper I haven't heard that name for a long time we used it a lot at Camper & Nicholsons yachts it give a lovely surface to the exotic woods prior to finishing polish, also known as Silicon Carbide paper.
Joe
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I think that the term "glass paper" derives from when abrasive paper actually used crushed glass in various grades of fineness. I don't know if glass is used nowadays. I do remember flour paper, it was extremely fine.
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<*< ....next you will be telling us not to use Johnson & Johnson baby talc on baby skin {-) .......after all, Talc is the lower value on the Moh's Scale
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Flour paper arrived this morning good service. I have no idea how baby powder relates to fine sandpaper please do not post a reply to explain.
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The sun is shining the temperature is right for spraying the hand rails so this is the task for this weekend.
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Really? it is brrrrrrrr freezing Stan %%
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Hi with the sun shining in the garage and a little secondary heat all was well. Flipping cold in the wind though.
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The hand rails are now finished. Next job varnish deck area then leave for a few days to allow the finish to harden then in to the paint shop.
Stan.
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Just a few pictures showing the finish on the hand rails and the deck areas. The handrails are gloss varnished applied by air brush the deck sections are sprayed with a mix of 1 part gloss 2 parts matt. Sorry about the table cloth.
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Hi Stan superb finish mate, what are the 3 holes inside the little transom frame used for?
John
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Hi the three holes will be for the two gold taps and the shower hose. I presume this was used after swimming and would be supplied from a fresh water supply.
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The woodwork is a nice light colour. The white will offset it nicely I think.
Rich
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Just two pictures today. The wood filler from Rustins has been first class the colour is good and very close to the teak veneer. Second picture shows how I have bent the brass rod around the original part supplied in the kit. The metal in the kit is very thin and will not allow for any slight bending to make it fit.
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A brilliant tip for the mix of paint for the deck finish. Awesome work Stan :-))
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Have to agree with all the praise Stan, really nice work on the detailing..!
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HI all no I have not dropped of the planet just other things need doing.
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Back on the build just finished wiring up the stern light test tomorrow then fit the cover job done.
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Four pictures today showing the bow platform brass work and the anchor winch. The last two show the jack staff the stern light L E D is just visible.
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Such lovely work Stan that is one good looking boat :-))
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Yes a very fine fettle Stan 8) as always O0
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Work on this build has slowed due to maintenance on other models. Just at few pictures showing the chrome paint on the stern light and hawser points. Be aware if you intend to use this only finish with acrylic varnish final picture show the lettering for the boats name.
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Just four pictures today showing fittings painted with chrome paint and work on the bow rails enjoy.
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Wow! Stan, beautiful workmanship, a labour of love.
Great to talk to you today and catch up.
Talk again soon!
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It's been a while since I last logged in Stan, good progress with stunning detail :-))
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Sadly things on hold again time just seems to fly by.
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Hopefully back to it this week. A big job ahead masking of the hull pictures to follow.
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What a beautiful boat. As a beginner I have learnt so much reading your updates and seeing your photos.
Thanks you for sharing your skills
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Just a few pictures showing the masking needed to paint the hull.
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First coats of white primer applied pictures to follow.
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First coats of primer applied we are now at the dreaded filler stage pictures this evening.
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What a lovely afternoon. I think not running a file down all the recesses to get out the sanding sealer but the end result will be worth it.
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That’s brave Stan but it will make the planks look individual and improve their appearance
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Now back applying the white primer.
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Just a two pictures showing how the side planking looks after a lot filling and filing. I hope to be painting by the end of next week.
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That's very neat Stan, you should achieve a great finish on her :-)
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Hi all now in the final stages of filling between the planks what a long and laborious job. Just three pictures showing the filler applied between the planks and how it looks after sanding prior to primer been applied.
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Well the hull is now in the paint shop. Just a few pictures showing the hull bottom in a blue finish. I hope to have all the hull finished next week.
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Loverly pastel blue colour Stan. It will look brilliant when finished.
John
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Hi John Humbrol 89 Mid Blue. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Hopefully by Wednesday the outer hull will be air brushed and the boot topping lines applied on Friday varnished on Sunday.
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The sun is shining no rain today and it is quite warm so the hull is masked off and the white top colour has been applied. The hull will now stand until Friday this will allow the paint to harden before applying the boot topping.
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Looks like a white dolphin Stan. {-) {-) {-)
John
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Hi John 4 I don't know about a white Dolphin been more like a big white Whale. Should have been harpooned many times. More pictures later this week.
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Boot topping now masked off hope to paint on Thursday.
Stan
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The boot topping is now applied just a few spots that need touching in with a brush. Next job apply the varnish top coats then fix all the deck fittings.. Just a few pictures showing the overhaul look of the hull so far. No Longer a big white whale
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Looking really nice now Stan :-)) :-)) :-))
John
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I hope to varnish the hull later this week. Once again things are getting in the way.
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Hi Stan
Been reading up on this and I'm lost for words! What an absolute beauty she will be.
Thanks for sharing!
Hama
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Hope to be back on the build by Friday. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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A really beautiful boat, looking forward to seeing her in all her splendour.
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Sunshine and warm at last so Grand banks has received two coats of satin varnish on the hull bottom. Hopefully this will protect the delicate matt finish while the model is in a temporary stand. Sorry about the date stamp just noticed it
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Pleased to say back on this build. At the moment just tiding up some of the white paint work.
Stan
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Hopefully this week the hull be finished pictures to follow.
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Hi Stan,
Such a spectacular build, really a lovely boat. I am enjoying your build a lot!
All the best,
Ruud
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HI all an ideal day for applying varnish to the hull. Just two pictures showing the hull suspended prior to the finish been applied.
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Wow Stan, the photos make the boat look about 7’ long,
Very, very nice. :-)) :-))
John
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HI Update on the G B just a few picture showing some of the hull fitting now in place. Still more to do hope to finish the hull by the end of the week. With a bit of luck the build should be completed early July.
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Wow Stan, you have got a fantastic pristine looking model there, looks worthy of all your hard work. :-))
John
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The swim platform and anchor details are now fitted. Still a few items to install in the hull more pictures to follow. When the build is complete I hope to give a summery on the highs and lows of building this model.
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Just two pictures today been most of the day. Picture one the swim door on the transom final picture shower point on the stern. Sorry not very good at making shower heads but it looks ok.
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I hope to have all the hull work finished by the end of next week more pictures to follow.
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The detailing is superb, really lifts the model to an even higher level
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Hi All build shut down for at least a week.
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HI all back on the build Monday.
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Good morning to you all. This morning I have decided to suspend any future pictures of construction of this model there is not a lot more to photograph. The build has been ongoing for just under two years and at times it nearly went in the bin . I hope you have enjoyed my thread ? I will when the build is totally finished post some final pictures until then stay safe.
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Hopefully my next builds will be in Military section. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Thoroughly enjoyed following your build Stan. Looking forward to seeing the finished article when you're ready to show it.
Cheers
Ralph
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Same here Stan :-))
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Thank you to all who have followed my build thread. It certainly has been a challenge but I hope the final result will be worth all problems with the build. One final note I may have found a varnish to go over the chrome finish full details in my final review. Until them stay safe.
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Stan this has been a fantastic build :-)) Building boats and ships is so hard sometimes but when you add in to mix the problem of weight it becomes even harder. I admire you determination to complete this tricky build. Well done mate :-)
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My compliments also Stan and look forward to your write up :-))
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Thanks Stan, really enjoyable, informative and very inspirational build.
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Hi all still hoping to be finished by the end of July.
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Hi All update on this build still trying to make one side of the superstructure removable. The rest of the superstructure is masked off ready for the respray.
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A few weeks ago I did say I would not post any more pictures of this model until complete . The work on the hull is finished so just a few pictures to show how it looks in bright sunshine enjoy.
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Looks excellent Stan, :-)) what paint did you use in the end for the metal railings?
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I am please to say I have hopefully made one side of the cabin removable for any future access. Also jus a few pictures showing parts of the superstructure masked off and ready for the respray. I am having to do this due shade differences with Humbrol paint. The two anchors are tensioned by attaching thin brass wire to the chains these are the passed through the hull and into the brass knuckle tighten up the screw job done.
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Superb Stan, well on the road to being finished. Everything is coming together nicely for you with a not so
straight forwards build. She will look fantastic when the superstructure is fitted. :-)) :-)) :-))
John
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Super chrome work Stan and your anchor chain tensioner is a great idea - well done. :-))
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Must agree with Rays comments....superb work :-)) ...very lifelike images O0
One question in my mind for a month or so Stan.......the Stdb water tap at the bow is brass, but the Port tap is chromed
The must be a reason for this.....salt water/fresh water...but not sure?
Derek
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Hi Derek spot on fresh/salt.
Stan
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Yesterday I stated that work on the removable side was just about complete WRONG. Having checked the inner part of the cabin It was in places to short. So today back to the drawing a new inner piece has been made and laminated with teak now drying overnight.
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Not much done over the last few day to hot current temp outside 94.5 f inside temp 81.3f
Stan
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Just a few pictures to show the ultimate in masking. This had to be done due shade problems with the paint I E the superstructure was not the same shade as the hull. The superstructure now looks like an Egyptian mummy I will post more picture when all the masking is removed.
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Brilliant Stan :-) I've got a little job for you {-) {-)
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HI the paint job is now complete just some work to be done with the brush. Next step varnish all the superstructure which will need a small amount of masking to complete.
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Wow ! Looking really great Stan :-))
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After many attempts I have finally made one side of the superstructure removable. This will allow to access to all the internal contents. The inner skin is glued to the outer skin the outer skin is held in place with magnets and a m4 bolt. Last group of picture show a little more detail added including a face mask I thought this would be quite appt seeing this model was built during covid 19.
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Hi Stan,
In view of the masterwork you've achieved, have you ever thought about going into the house furnishing business. I'm sure the "Dragons" will back you! :-)) Oh, and no, I've not started on the sub-chaser yet!
Cheers
Tony
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More work done today and those final bits are taking time. Just a few pictures showing the templates for the stand next stop my local kitchen fitter who for a small donation will cut them for me. Last pictures just started working on some crew figures.
Stan.
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Things are moving now flitting about like a butterfly from one thing to another. The name plate for the stand ordered the stand base has now had two coats of varnish applied by roller good finish picture later.
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Impressive work Stan, attention to detail and finishes second to none. A lot of progress since my last visit in April. :-))
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Just a few shots showing items that have had work done today. The last one is for John 44 the base board for the model to sit on please note the two formers are not fitted yet.
Stan.
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There is still a lot of small items to fit to complete the model I thought you might to see how it will look when she is complete. The next set of pictures will be when the model is complete. Hopefully I hope this model will be on display at the model show at Blackpool in October. :-))
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Stan I have to say that you have made a stunning model :-)) I know that it has tested your patience but what a result :-)) A beautiful model that you should be very proud of - top job mate O0
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Hi MarkT look forward to finishing this model. Then a brief review on Mayhem
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All I can say Stan is what a superb model you’ve made from a not so good kit, it is a credit to you. :-))
John
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Hi this morning I visited the sign makers to collect name plate which will be attached to the boat stand in due course. Later today the fly bridge section well be fixed back in place. The final parts of the build will now be suspended for a short while.
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Today I managed to get some 1/24 scale Tamiya figures for my build.
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Hope to be back in the final stages of this build next week.
Stan
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HI all back on the build after a short break in Scotland. If you are in Edinburgh Wonderland models is well worth a visit.
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One word from me Stan - CRACKIN'
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The build is coming to the end crew figures to sort out. Jut one picture showing the boat stand for Grand Banks.
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Stan that is really lovely and the boat will look so nice on it
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Just wonderful Stan :-)
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Superb
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The final parts to this build are taking time hopefully should be finished in the next two weeks.
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Many of my builds are at 95% and will likely never get to be "finished" {-)
Looking forwards to your next project :-))
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The build is now very close to completion will post the final pictures before the end of the month and the kit review.
Stan
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HI all I have not posted much on this build lately. I will still give a summary when the model is finished. Other things are getting in the way at the moment.
Stan.
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Don't worry Stan - you've been at this for over 2 years so a couple of weeks here or there won't matter. We will wait!
Greg
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HI all I have not forgotten about giving a brief review of this build to up to my eyes with other things at the moment.
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Hopefully the review will be in November so busy at the moment with lots of things.
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After many many months with my GB in mothballs I tried test running it on my local pond yesterday on the edge of Dartmoor. The run was done without any topsides, just the hull and below decks hardware and electrics and with a hull that I had lightened as much as I dared. Whatever you do Stan don't think of trying this with yours after all your hard work. Mine shipped water like a colander. If I continue it will now be with the aim of ending up with a static model! As we all knew it is way to heavy to be classed as an RC ready model. Shame on you Amati.....
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Fantastic build Stan.
One of the best build sequences I have seen.
Best wishes
Alan
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The Grand Banks is sat patiently waiting for the final details to be added .A brief review of the kit will follow later in the year.
Stan
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A selection of pictures showing Grand Banks senior and a similar version hopefully by the end of the year.[/size][/font][/color][/size][/font][/color][/size][/font][/color][/size][/font][/color][/size][/font][/color][/size][/font][/color][/size][/font][/color][/size][/font][/color][/size][/font][/color][/size]The junior is the Krick Lisa M.[/color]
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A selection of pictures showing Grand Banks senior
That is a handsome boat. Deck of junior looks good.
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Looking forward to seeing junior finished Stan. Great job as normall :-)) :-)) :-))
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Urgent work needed on Grand Banks. I broke one of the anchors today thankfully I could remove the complete unit to facilitate a repair. The repair was done by gluing the damaged part with superglue and reinforcing the joint with a strip of fibreglass. Next job repaint and refix note the thin brass wire connected to the anchor chain.The thin wire goes through a brass fitting pulled tight and the screw nipped up meaning the chain is always tight.
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That's a good idea for keeping the tension on the chain Stan and certainly one for the ideas book. O0
Aye,
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The signing of Grand Banks. All my models are dated and club initials entered where do you enter yours ? :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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That's the initials of my club too!
Chris
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Just a few pictures showing the progress of my smaller model which eventually will be a partner to Grand Banks. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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The little brother of Grand Banks is now back on the building board. There is still a long way to go with this project more to follow[size=0.85em][/size]