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Title: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: B.B on September 23, 2019, 11:25:07 AM
Hi there, well back after taking 11 mths to construct this Lady, same 1:16 scale build,  the "Southern-Lady" is a stretched version of the previous build the "C-Manda" but less beam for the extra length, her measurements are  52 x 17 ( 18" with sponsons) x 7 inchs ,the bulk of the build is of Tasmanian oak ,Keel is 20 H x 18 W mm , this is a first for me fixing the frames to a board ....  Cheers.....
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Post by: Mark T on September 23, 2019, 02:07:30 PM
Hi Brian Iím looking forward to this build 👍
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Post by: derekwarner on September 23, 2019, 10:24:48 PM
Yes BB....watching on as always..... O0 ........... Derek
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Post by: B.B on September 24, 2019, 05:09:21 AM
Hi guys have plenty of photos lined up  ok2 .Spent a few hours at the bench saw cutting up the Tassy oak for the build, the Stringers were cut at 13 x 7 mm the Ribs at 7 x 4 mm ( about the last 1/3 of the ribs were cut at 7 x 2 mm as they were laminated), and the Planking was cut to 12 x 3 mm ( slightly over ).In photo' 3 & 4 the frames were of 1/2 inch ply and set up and screw to the building board.With the pieces I cut the Stringers from weren't long enough ( should have done another trip to Bunnings ) so had to join them doing scarfing joints and also doweled them for extra strength, and the last 2 photo's start of cutting or stepping into the frames for the stringers ..cheers.
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Post by: Steve Mahoney on September 24, 2019, 07:04:36 AM
Superb woodwork and excellent construction techniques.
I learn a great deal from your post so Iíll be watching with interest.
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Post by: B.B on September 24, 2019, 09:48:57 PM
Morning, some shots of the stringers being installed, also put a short (bit lighter) stringer in the hollow heel, to maintane the same curve as each frame ( we did this on our prawn trawler we built yrs ago, as they tend to crack on the curve of the hollow heel especially when bumping bottom ( over time) while crossing river bars ). Also ribbing her up probably 3/4 of these were steamed and set in a jig for a few hrs or so...Cheers  :-))
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Post by: mikelimajuliet on September 25, 2019, 02:28:21 AM
This looks like a fanatastic and involved build. I'll be keeping a close eye on this.
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Post by: Akira on September 25, 2019, 01:13:25 PM
Beautiful! It is so nice to see that the art of wooden hull building is alive. It appears that you have done this before...LOL.
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Post by: B.B on September 26, 2019, 09:18:44 AM
Thanks guys, Photo 1  nearly ribbed up, a better shot of the jigs set up for setting the ribs after they are steamed ( boiled),photo 2 All ribs finally attached, photo's 3 & 4  The fun begins, placing all the filler blocks between each rib on top deck stringers and also on each stringer across the frames.Photo 5 When you first look at this photo the hull appears to have a wonky look, because of the fillers on each stinger at each frame.The remainder of the photos showing  the planking even though glued I doweled the planking on each frame using 1012 of these little sucker (bamboo)....Cheers  :-))
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Post by: Mark T on September 26, 2019, 09:33:31 AM
It looks like a miniature boat yard  :-))   That work is just stunning
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Post by: B.B on September 27, 2019, 10:22:17 PM
Morning guys, photo 1 - how the planking runs around the hull , and showing where the steeler planks will be placed. photo 2 - I found i had to use Merbau for the steelers after snapping a couple of the Tassy oak steelers, found them very brittle if slight change in the grain ( and a few choice words ,which always helps ). Photo 3 - Stern view where another steeler will be placed.
 Photos 4 , 5 & 6 - used a couple Merbau planks around the deck level, bow and stern view of the build. Photos 7 & 8 -  Start of notching the last section of planking in. Photos 9 & 10 - Another case of crappy grain in the Tassy oak, should have taken more care to check each piece before shaping it ( bit like measure 2wice and cut once ......Cheers  :-))
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Post by: chum444 on September 28, 2019, 01:22:36 AM
Incredible work.
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Post by: coastie on September 28, 2019, 07:34:25 PM
 :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Post by: B.B on September 30, 2019, 11:37:33 AM
Hi There, next section of the build.Photo 1 - Hull planked to the deck level.Photo 2 & 3 - Cutting the frames away from the base.Photo 4 - Inside view looking forward.Photo 5 ran the motor beds 30 x 20 mm forward (sister keelsons) and they also act as part of the base or frame work for the 2 x 12V sealed lead batteries which will be in parallel .Photo 6 - Aft ends of the beds shaped to accommodate the electric motor. Photos 7 ,8 & 9 - Pre fitting the motor beds and not the most delicate way by using the stick welder (but it works ).Photo  10 - The motor installing is a 12-24 V  Aircon blower motor.....Cheers  :-))
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Post by: ballastanksian on September 30, 2019, 08:40:55 PM

Oh to have the wherewithal to commission a large model of Mary Rose from you Brian! I felt in my waters that you were going to brighten our 'Autumned' hearts with one of your build topics. The workmanship, attention to detail and ability to make miniature timbers look like the real things is phenominal  8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)


While I love the super smooth finish you get with your hull paintwork, I would love to see one of these masterpieces finished in their natural colours, even if you just painted some areas for detail. Your choice of timber and their colours are so beautiful and sadly hidden under paint  <:( Obviously it is your hobby and they are your models, so who am I to push an issue, but if it was just built with ply and balsa then there would be a call for some good paint, but the timbers you use and the way you assemble them (especially with all those 'trennels' !) do deserve showing off.


Any of your builds will win a model boat competition even if you just walked in off the street with one! I look forward to more posts with glee  :}
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Post by: B.B on October 02, 2019, 02:22:46 AM
Hi  ballastanksian , glad you like her, I enjoy building them, even spending more time or effort needed in areas you will never view again, I suppose it comes down to personal satisfaction, I've been asked numerous times why bother with scarfing joints etc when you cover over them, quiet simple actually as I tell my Wife (sometimes  ok2 ) because I can  :-)) . With the sailing ship models I take my hat off to the guys with the Knowledge and skill required in that field of rigging etc, bit out of my capabilities , cheers  :-) .
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Post by: B.B on October 02, 2019, 02:41:49 AM
Hi there , well next section of the build Photo 1 -  Showing a better view of her side profile along with her stand ( I pulled an old dresser table apart the bulk of it was hardwood ( spotted gum) which makes a nice but slightly heavy model stand). Photo 2 - Fitting the rudder stock. Photos  3 & 4 -The fitted knees onto the stringers at the transom ( no they aren't grown Tea Tree knees ,bit of Redwood). Photo  5 - Finally got around to making myself a little bevel for those hard to get at places. Photo 6 - Showing most of the running gear the propeller is a 110 mm Raboesch ( re shaped) on a 5 mm s.s shaft , the rudder is made from 3.5 mm brass flat plate, ( I probably should have made the motor base out of the same size brass flat plate ??? instead of gal steel flat bar, it actually come from brackets on a satellite dish on the roof of the house I took down). Photo 7 - Prior to installing her deck beams put extra thicker blocks 62 x 20 mm Tassy oak where her back towing gantries will sit. Photo 8 - Inside her hull receiving a coat of the 2 pot Estapol . Photo's 9 & 10 - Then she received a coat of white undercoat brushed on ( will spray the gloss )  cheers.  :-)) .
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Post by: B.B on October 03, 2019, 11:03:03 PM
Morning, well few more photo's of her... Photo's 1 & 2 - I sprayed the top coat  of the inside , I used Dulux metal Sheild Epoxy Enamel ( have used this before with good results). photo 3 - Before spraying I pre fitted the deck beams. Photo's 4 & 5 - Shot of all the deck beams installed and fitting the filler sections between the beams before cutting out the lift out sections. Photo 6 - This model will have a working winch ( out of sight) inside the aft section of the w-house, thus why the tassy oak filler blocks between the deck beams for added strength. Photo 7 - View of the stern section. Cheers .  :-)) .
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Post by: Tafelspitz on October 04, 2019, 07:22:10 AM
Nice timberwork there, Brian  :-))
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Post by: B.B on October 05, 2019, 11:34:11 AM
Thank you Tafelspitz  :-) . Next section of the build. Photo 1 - Showing a piece of Spotted Gum planking which came out of a friends 52 ft prawn trawler which was built in 1974, the section of planking was replace as it had some grub (Toredo) in it, the section I used looked as good as the day it went into the boat, I made all the bollard post from it a bow and stern bollard and 4 smaller side bollards. Photo's 2 , 3  & 4 - Pre fitting the stern centre bollard, slotting the base into the horn timber. Photo's 5 , 6  & 7 - Some more shots of her deck beams and lift out sections finished. Photo's 8 , 9  & 10 - The first of 3 undercoats she recieved , cheers   :-)) .
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Post by: Mark T on October 05, 2019, 12:00:19 PM
It seems that you get some really nice species and a wide variety of wood in Australia.  I bet it dries out very naturally too in your warm environment keeping it stable for model making.  I have to buy imported hard woods for my builds and they can be quite expensive especially of you make mistakes  - not that I'm jealous of course  {-)


That hull looks lovely its almost a shame to paint it - looking forward to the next update  :-))
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Post by: chum444 on October 05, 2019, 09:16:55 PM
Beautiful! It is so nice to see that the art of wooden hull building is alive. It appears that you have done this before...LOL.


Ah ha! Another familiar builder.
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Post by: dreadnought72 on October 05, 2019, 11:13:11 PM
THIS IS LOVELY  :-))


Andy
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Post by: Capt Podge on October 05, 2019, 11:35:52 PM
If I could do that kind of woodwork I would consign most of my plasticard to the waste bin. Beautiful craftsmanship B.B. :-))


Regards,
Ray.
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Post by: ballastanksian on October 06, 2019, 11:23:18 PM

I agree Captain.


That bow section is pure art Brian as (Ok all of her is obviously) are the knees. I think we can forgive you for not using grown knees just this once.I like how you are using some old wood and recycling it in your projects.
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Post by: B.B on October 07, 2019, 03:43:40 AM
Hi guys, yes I suppose we are fortunate down here with selection of hardwoods we have or had in the past, probably the same every where to get decent hard woods, the rubbish they want to sell you now with sap veins, knots ( and they do that with a smile on their faces  O0 )  mainly pine still has the leaves hanging off it, That's why I like to stick to using the Tassy oak and the Merbau ( I won't go near Balsa) , if its any consolation with the Knees ,I  use proper knees cut from a pecan nut tree to use in the stem step Knee and the stern knee I made back in the early 80's of our Family trawler ( yep and it was seasoned ) cheers  :-)) ....
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Post by: B.B on October 07, 2019, 04:05:02 AM
Hi there, 
 Photo  1 -  Something I didn't realize at the time , but when I first started to fit the motor to the beds ( as I had taken a measurement and allowing the shaft angle from 1 side only) made the ends plates for the beds with their sloted holes ,when I went to fit the motor thought the bed was warped (nope) the bolts running through the motor either side weren't running true to each other ( I wonder where it may have been made ????) so found I had to slot out the nice even slots on opposite corners, will be checking the next motor out for sure  >>:-( . Photo's  2 & 3 - Thought I would make a dummy engine cover , based it on a 3412 Cat, but naturally couldn't stick to the correct dimensions because of the width of the electric motor , but will pass at a glance . Photo  4 - Showing how the engine cover looks in position ( not the correct colour there or transfers on it yet). Photo's 5 & 6 - Skimming the ply down for the deck prior to the decking strips. Photo 7 - Front raised deck with ply ( thicker ply) as it won't be planked. Photo 8 - The lead ballast blocks come in handy when glue down. Photo 9 - laying the deck strips and cardboard (pitch) on the main lift out section. Photo 10 - All the decking layed ready for a sealer coat of Varnish. Cheers  :-)) .
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Post by: T888 on October 07, 2019, 04:32:39 AM
Hi BB,
Very nice build, question do you see any issue with motor cooling ? As it looks like the dummy CAT cover could reduce airflow around the motor.
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Post by: B.B on October 07, 2019, 04:58:47 AM
Hi T888, actually had her launch few weeks ago ,I was planning on putting a fan blowing onto the motor , but tried her out first gave her a pretty good run around the pond for about 1 & 1/2 hrs  (on & off)  first thing I checked when finished was to see how hot the cover and motor was ,warm which surprised me, thought it would have been hotter, but I dare say when trawling with her will be a different story ,Cheers .
 
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Post by: ballastanksian on October 07, 2019, 07:49:14 PM
You go from better to better Brian. That Engine mock up is gorgeous! I can hear the clicking of the injectors in my mind (I'm not mad honest, my imaginary friends have reassured me!) Don't worry about the knees, you know your material and we know that as you are making the model, it is your decision at every point.
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Post by: B.B on October 08, 2019, 02:55:48 AM
Hi There, some more pics of her. Photo 1 -  Applying a thinned out coat of Varnish on the decking just seal it while continuing the build. Photo 2 - Running a batten around to get the right angle of the staunchon post . Photo 3 & 4 - All the staunchon post installed and the start of the Merbau planking around. Photo 5 & 6 - These bulwarks will have the inlays up the sides and across her tail. Photo 7 - Plenty of bracing while planking the bulwarks. Photo 8 & 9 - Found this an easy way of installing the inserts. Photo - 10 - Bulwarks planked up ( less side rails and capping).....Cheers  :-)) .
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Post by: SailorGreg on October 08, 2019, 02:42:15 PM
Excellent!  :-)) :-)) :-))
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Post by: Capt Podge on October 08, 2019, 03:00:25 PM
The way you tackled those inserts is very clever - looks brilliant  :-) .


Regards,
Ray.
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Post by: B.B on October 10, 2019, 09:32:57 AM
Hi guys, some more of the build.....Photos  1 ,2 & 3 - The dummy engine cover with her final Cat colours and the water slides attached.
 Photo's 4 & 5 - Attaching the side capping rails. Photo 6 - Attaching the shoulder sponsons after they were steamed . Photo 7 - The start of the stern trawling gantries made mostly from Brass tubing. Photo 8 - Inserts in the base of the gantry post which sit into the extra blocks under the deck for extra support. Photo's 9 & 10 - Fitting the trawl gantries as to mark the correct angle etc of the post feet , cheers  :-)) .
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Post by: ballastanksian on October 10, 2019, 10:29:23 PM

I forgot that you do excellent brass structures as well!



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Post by: B.B on October 12, 2019, 06:00:17 AM
Hi there, I don't know about that ballastanksian, it passes the test , but seen a lot of high class engineering on this site I would love to be able to do. still on the trawl gantries with this section of photo's. Photo 1 -  Fitting the end plates for the front stay and trawl block on the small swing arms.   Photo 2 - Ready to solder the top front stay lug.  Photo 3 - Lining up the 2 lugs on the small swing arms pivot from.  Photo's  4 , 5 & 6 - Fitting the lugs on the main gantry post where the small arms pivot from.  Photo 7 - Being a bit of a bower bird these are brass name plates of electric motors on a wrecked Tiawanese fishing vesell wrecked on Man-o-War island (in 1974 cyclone) North of Morningto Island in the Gulf Of Carpentaria, we got these off her in 1979, ( I always knew I could use them one day  O0 ). Photo 8 - This is the cross arm attached to the trawl gantrey where the trawl blocks hang from, and the 2 small shaped pieces of flat brass is from those name tags..  Photo 9 - Holding the back cross arm in position ready to be soldered on.  Photo 10 - The trawl gantries finished ,,,cheers  :-)) ....
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Post by: B.B on October 13, 2019, 10:19:52 AM
Hi there, in this section  Photo 1 - Fitting a cover strip on the raised deck area . Photo 2 - The last of the capping rail being glued into position. Photo 3 - Using vinesion blind timber for the front studs of the step up w-house. Photo 4 - W-house base's and the front studs. Photo 5 & 6 - Installing the front and side studs. Photo 7 - I wasn't happy with the height of the front step up area so had to extend each stud . Photo 8 - Skeleton of the w-house finished . Photo ( & 10 - Ready to install the w-house beams and then the top front studs....Cheers  :-)) .
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Post by: Mark T on October 13, 2019, 01:20:06 PM
The capping rail looks great - did you bend a piece of wood or cut it from a larger piece?
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Post by: B.B on October 16, 2019, 02:31:30 AM
Hi Mark T, I used the timber Venetian blind ( Bamboo) still took about 4 pieces each side plus the short nose section, cheers. :-)
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Post by: B.B on October 16, 2019, 02:46:35 AM
Hi there, next section of photos attached are, Photo 1 & 2 - Showing the w-house beams installed ( bit slack didn't run them through will wait till put the 2mm ply roof on then extend short sections out  O0 . Photo 3 - Attaching the 1.5 mm ply around the front of the w-house under the windows as to accommodate the sharp side corners. Photo 4 -  pre marking the front and corner windows prior to cutting them out.  Photo 5 - Also the sides of the w-house are the usual 2 mm ply. ( actually I just noticed on that photo the edge of the deck cover strip and the sponson look like they have a wobbly section in them ,they don't its the phone camera find i have distortions on some sections of photo's, probably doesn't like being dropped the amount of times it has been ??? ). Photo 6 - Attaching the 2 mm ply on the step up section of the w-house. Photo 7 , 8  & 9 - Fitting the base for the lay back eyebrow or flybridge ?, cutting in the areas for the upright studs and all ready to be installed. Photo 10 - All the studs installed , cheers. :-)) .
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Post by: Tafelspitz on October 17, 2019, 10:10:30 AM
Very neat and impressive build! I especially dig your Caterpillar motor model. Top notch!


Dom
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Post by: sabre on October 17, 2019, 03:58:26 PM
Nice, very nice indeed and I like the nails. :-))
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Post by: B.B on October 20, 2019, 10:38:49 AM
Hi there, next section.....Photo 1 , 2 & 3 -  After cutting the 1 mm ply to shape from the cardboard template and gluing it into position. Photo 4 - Fitting the base for the side awnings onto the capping rail which will lift off with the w-house. Photo 5 & 6 - Shape of the side awnings and where they will be positioned. Photo 7 - Keeping everything true before fitting the capping rail on the eyebrow. Photo 8 - Inside of the side awnings, but won't be attaching them to the w-house till painting done on the w-house. Photo 9 - How she looks with the eyebrow and side awnings .
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Post by: Capt Podge on October 20, 2019, 10:06:38 PM
That is a very smooth finish on the eyebrow ply. I'm guessing you will have very little problem, if any, when it comes to the paint application.

Regards,

Ray.
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Post by: ballastanksian on October 21, 2019, 08:35:27 PM

I love the fact that you cut no corners (pardon the pun) and added detail that may not be seen such as the framing on those side pieces.


Superb as per usual Brian!
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Post by: B.B on October 22, 2019, 01:17:58 AM
Hi guys, with the ply what I have found is if I give it a coat of wood filler then sand it back you end up with a smooth base to paint on no wood grain showing.Photo 1 - The tedious job of making the  flanges or feet for all the hand rails .  Photo's 2 & 3 - After making the exhaust stack and installing on the model just didn't look right so made a lower one.  Photo's 4 , 5 & 6 -  making the Look out ( crow's nest).  Photo's 7 , 8 & 9 - Constructing the brass mast base, this will be attached to the back of the w-house ( and will lift off with the w-house) the mast will slip into the tubing and out for transporting.  ( actually at this point I messed up will show up later when completing the Mast & Boom  ??)  Photo 10 - Showing the Mk-II exhaust stack .  :-)) .....
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Post by: T888 on October 22, 2019, 06:19:08 AM
Hi BB
I know you have made the handrail flanges, but though you may like to know how I do mine? I use a hollow punch to punch blank discís from plastic card sheet and then drill the holes. This method is less tedious I find.


Enjoying your build :-)) :-))
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Post by: Mark T on October 22, 2019, 04:46:48 PM
Just gets better Brian  :-))   It looks like a really nice scale to be working too as well.  It shows the details very well indeed.
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Post by: B.B on October 25, 2019, 03:05:10 AM
Hi T888, never thought of plasti card, will give that a go when i build a static model, but these for working models gives bit more strength when soldered to the uprights (especially when people start to touch them   >:-o ) Thank you for your comments Mark T , cheers.
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Post by: B.B on October 25, 2019, 03:28:49 AM
Hi there,  up to the construction of the working brass trawl winch's ,Photo 1 - Elevation view of how they should look ?.   Photo 2 - This would be where a lathe would be handy ( even better still if I knew how to use one  O0 ) oh well stick to my trusty Dremel using 1/8 inch brass plate.   Photo 3 - soldering the drums side plates on to the fixed shafts .   Photo 4 - Showing one of the drums, Before installing the drums I fitted 3 mm planking cut offs over the threaded tubbing that I used for the center bosch of the drums.  Photo 5 -  Cutting out the side plates of the winch.  Photo 6 -  Tapping  the threads for the end plates etc.  Photo 7 & 8 - Most of the cutting done.   Photo 9 - All the bits n pieces need to finish  the job (except servo's , will be using 360 deg servo's)  Cheers :-)) ...
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Post by: B.B on October 27, 2019, 04:26:12 AM
Hi there ,still continued shots of the brass winches.....Photo 1 - The winch's base.  Photo 2 - Lining up the shaft line for the side plates.   Photo 3 - Using J-X  20Kg  360 deg servos (i did a test to see if they could handle the job, should have no worries ).  Photo 4 - Working out the angle and the area for tracking at the back of the w-house position ..  Photo 5 , 6 & 7 - As to be able to lift the w-house off without disconnecting the trawl line each time, thus why the track down to the base of the w-house, and the inside bracing each section to stop any warping... Photo 8 - The coaming that will enclose the winch base.  Photo 9 - showing the drainage tubes  to be fitted in each aft corner of the coaming to drain off water from the winch drums.....Cheers   :-)) ..
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Post by: Mark T on October 27, 2019, 02:08:51 PM
That is one substantial piece of engineering right there Brian.  I would never have thought about drainage from the winches being used, I guess its one of those things that only people who have actually worked at sea would know.  Looks really nice!
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Post by: B.B on October 29, 2019, 12:17:54 AM
Hi there, next section the non working winch's ( forgot to mention in the last post, the weight of the working brass winch's comes in at 1.2 Kg)   Photo 1 & 2 - For the main deck winch and net drum end Bosch's I used cut down  .44 caliber shell's drilled out to suit the brass shafts.  Photo 3 - Most of the bits n pieces of the main and net winch's.  Photo 4 - All assembled (less hydrolic lines).  Photo's 5 & 6 - Temporary jig to achieve the correct angle of the anchor's hoarser pipe.  Photo's  7 & 8 - Anchor winch temporally sitting in its correct position.. Cheers
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Post by: chum444 on October 29, 2019, 12:27:37 AM
Some fine Brian.
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Post by: B.B on October 30, 2019, 01:53:32 AM
Hi There,  Photos 1 & 2 - Instead of making 2 life buoy rings for each build decided to knock a few out for future builds as well, found the right size hole saw for the inside ( which I didn't realize I had, in amongst all the junk ) then cut the remainder out on the band saw. Actually left in one length would have made a good fish measurer, for when asked how long it was once once you put your fingers in the holes you then can't stretch the truth  O0 ?.  Photos  3 , 4 & 5 -  pre fitting the stern net roller.  Photo 6 - pre fitting the Spotted gum bollard post.. Photo 7 - the fly bridge steering station.  Photo 8 - Starting to paint the inside of the bulwarks already had a thin coat of Varnish to seal the timber, she will have 1 coat of undercoat and 2 of the gloss.  Cheers  :-))
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Post by: B.B on November 01, 2019, 07:44:03 AM
Hi There.  Photo 1 - Sides undercoated, she has another undercoat to be applied before the 2 gloss coats.   Photos 2 & 3 - Bottom receiving her second primer coat.  Photos  4 , 5 & 6 - The fun time of painting and more painting .  Photo's 7 &  8 - Brush coated another coat , closer to the final spray coating colour.. Cheers  :-))
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Post by: Mark T on November 01, 2019, 05:10:54 PM
Its coming to life now  - I really like the way the prawn trawlers are painted in bright vibrant colours.  Looks lovely  :-))
Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: B.B on November 03, 2019, 02:10:15 AM
Hi Mark T , thank you she was one of those models you enjoy building, I know I have build a couple that become a task just to work on them (especially when you know the aren't going to improve with looks as the build progress  O0 )..  Photo's 1 & 2 - Earlier  I remarked about a mistake with the mast and boom set up, I don't know why but I didn't allow for the boom to lift out of the mast base tube when transporting, I made the brackets on the bottom section ( fixed mast tube), instead of on the mast, a brain fade  >>:-( .  Photo's 3 ,4 & 5 -  Finally got around to making Fire buckets, came across the right size sowing thimbles that suit my 1:16 scale , still haven't been able to track down suitable  Figurines in the 1:16 scale  say 5' 8"  = 4.25 inchs or 118 mm ???.  Photo 6 - Applying the reflector tape to the Life buoy rings.  Photo  7 - Showing the side awnings and the combing fro the working winch.  Photo's 8 & 9 - Marking and fitting the copper brace straps for the mast side stay wires...cheers  :-)) .
Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: B.B on November 04, 2019, 08:33:15 PM
Hi there, On the downhill slide now  O0 .  Photo 1 - W-house with her side awnings and her name attached .  Photo 2 - Stern towing bollard, fits in nice and snug (can be removed)..Photos 3 & 4 -  Inside my spraying booth (garden shed) for her final coat on her bottom.  Photos 5 , 6 & 7 - The hull all finished ready for the installation of her running gear .  cheers  :-)) ....
Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: ballastanksian on November 04, 2019, 08:34:54 PM

You don't seem to need a lathe or a mill, you are doing your model engineering just fine, and in the style of those model engineers of old who had no access to machine tools and got on with their hand tools and steady eye.


A former member of a model engineer society I once belonged to in Chichester West Sussex (Mr Trevitt) used to make working models of historical steam engines in the forties and fifties while the manager of plantations in the far east. He even made scale roller chain for elements of the beam engines, just like you with twist drills and files.


Traditional techniques must never be underestimated.


Beautiful work as usual, I like the fire buckets!
Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: Steve Mahoney on November 04, 2019, 09:24:51 PM
That little pin stripe along the waterline looks great. That is a very tidy piece of paintwork.
Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: B.B on November 05, 2019, 09:37:29 PM
Hi there, thanks guys.......Photo 1 - She will have 2 x 12V batteries paralleled for her power supply.   Photo's  2 , 3 , 4 & 5 Before installing all of her running gear into the model, I was curious to see just how much grunt the 20 Kg 360 deg servo's actually had, so with the unit attached to the board and weighted down at one end of the garage, I attached one of my 6 Kg lead ballast block at the other end of the garage and winched it along the cement floor ( glad I didn't try this inside on the tiles as it left red skid marks on the cement ) very surprised  O0 and also nice and tight lines on the winch drums.  Photo 6 - Showing the position of the working winch, when towing the short arms on the trawl gantries swing out at 90 deg..  Photo 7 - All the running gear installed.  Photo 8 - Showing where the trawl lines pass through the back of the w-house...cheers .  :-)) .
Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: derekwarner on November 06, 2019, 01:45:02 AM
BB...all very tidy as usual  O0


If the winch servos are rated to 20 kg, a more representative test would be to suspend the same 6 kg lead weight vertically down & place a 10 or 20 kg capacity Fish Scale in the vertical line & raise the weight


All things being equal, you should see an approx  ~~ 6 kg register as the indicated load on the fish scale


We only have a few similar sized Trawlers in Wollongong with very similar gear, however neither have the winch wires running through the deck cabin........looks a little dangerous  <*<


Derek
Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: B.B on November 07, 2019, 10:34:51 AM
Hi Derekwarner, I think i will for go testing the gear by lifting the 6 Kg block vertically , probably tear a block off, but after seeing it drag the block along I haven't any worries of the servos handling winching the net up, it won't have the same pull as with the gear in the water winching up , in reality you are actually slowly dragging the boat back while winching up, I'm not sure how the winch inside the cabin could be dangerous, as I haven't any small figurines that may get caught up in the winch, and  there is not a hope in hell the winch will rip out of the deck as it isn't screwed into balsa wood   O0 ..... Few photos of her in her finished stage . cheers  :-))
Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: B.B on November 07, 2019, 10:40:58 AM
Hi there , some more of her prior to her launching . Cheers. :-)) .
Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: Popeye on November 07, 2019, 01:58:51 PM
Beautiful workmanship throughout.
I like the Font style. Can you recall its name?


Sincere congratulations on a superb model.
Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: plastic on November 07, 2019, 07:17:06 PM
This is one of the best builds I've ever seen - very cool.   :-))
Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: B.B on November 07, 2019, 08:07:07 PM
Hi there, thanks guys, the font used is Vladmir script ,,,cheers :-))
Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: Mark T on November 07, 2019, 09:23:39 PM
That looks simply stunning  - Probably your best build yet.  Its a top job and very inspirational too  :-)
Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: ballastanksian on November 08, 2019, 12:12:03 AM

I am not one who looks for flaws and faults in another person's work, and when I see a beautiful piece of work like this I find my eyes drawn deeper and deeper into the whole piece seeing how things sit and join together. This sometimes draws the eye to flaws, but I cannot see anything less than perfect on this model Brian. It is almost perfectly like a real vessel shrunk down to a model!



Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: B.B on November 11, 2019, 03:46:50 AM
Hi Guys, appreciate your comments.   Well this was her launch day, "Southern-Lady" on the trolley ready to get her bottom wet for the first time (could't give her a float test in the bathtub to long and to heavy to lump up the stairs), she sat perfectly in the water, after giving her a lap around the paddock I put 2 x 650 gram ballast blocks in her stern area to lift her nose at full revs. The model (less batteries) weighs 17.5 Kg or 38.5 lbs and all with the 2 x 12 V batteries and the extra ballast 22.8 Kg or 50.16 lbs, she has more than enough power (bit of an over kill) but she won't have any problems towing set of boards and net, she is spinning a 110 mm Raboesch prop which has been re shaped at full speed she will pull up in less than 1/3 of her length (yeah I know Why ??? well it tested the so called heavy coupling ,,,story for another post), It was a very pleasing result seeing her on the water the way she performed......Cheers  :-))
Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: mikelimajuliet on November 12, 2019, 12:24:53 AM
Good Lord! if you could scale the water effects then those photos would be indistinguishable from the real thing! :-))
Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: BrianB6 on November 12, 2019, 03:48:39 AM
She just needs a few fisherfolk
Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: ballastanksian on November 12, 2019, 09:02:41 PM

I am so pleased that you take so many photos of building these masterpieces Brian, because a viewer at the lake side would never believe how much skill and effort goes into building these lovely boats.


She is another beautiful example of the art of model boat building.


 :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) 8)
Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: derekwarner on November 13, 2019, 02:16:21 AM
Who was it who said the earth [and the sea] was flat?........ {-)


Derek



Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: B.B on November 13, 2019, 02:51:26 AM
Hi guys thanks for all the comments ,I have a question ?? how do I attach a video clip on here ????? :embarrassed: .
Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: B.B on November 16, 2019, 11:33:16 PM
Hi there, this is sort of related to the build ? with a few of my builds being on the semi large and heavy side ( well they seem to be getting heavier every time I go to move one of them ??), so with using the trolley I made a few yrs ago, it takes 2 people to lift the model and trolly together in and out of the car, other wise a slow process of placing them in one at a time, and you can't expect people to help lift your heavy gear all the time, so decided to make up a collapsible ramp ( preferably one that doesn't collapse while using  O0 ) worked out cheaper to make the bulk of it from Tassy oak instead of the easy way of buying Alloy ramps (plus they are bulkier), Like most of these jobs it takes longer to work out how to go about it than to actually knock it up, so just using 4 small s.s bolts with wing nuts welded on their heads, they bolt the centre frame into the nuts that are slotted into the side of the main ramps. But but but I did have a flaw in its design, I didn't make the centre track long enough, it was okay when linning up the trolly and lifting its nose up onto the centre runner ,but got caught twice when lowering it back down the ramp forgetting to hold the front it would dropped hard onto the ground , so had to scarf a longer runner base in and sides (as in photo) , also another improvement was taking the fixed ply base on the trolley off and replacing with a base with brass and copper rollers , so now all I have to do is sit the models nose just on the base and she rolls forward easy as , no loss of paint on her keel...Cheers  :-))
Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: Dreadnought on November 17, 2019, 12:07:12 PM
That's really good!  :-)) :-)) 
Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: Mark T on November 17, 2019, 02:20:45 PM
Thats a good idea - david48 built something similar after he had completed his Fairmount Alpine build. Makes life a lot easier with biggish builds
Title: Re: "Southern-Lady" Australian Tuna & Fish trawler
Post by: B.B on November 25, 2019, 02:02:04 AM
Hi Mark T,  that's the only problem ,its nice to build larger models but the weight gets you when you start to move them around or trying to bend over putting them in the water or retrieving them, have 4 that are on the larger heavy side especially when ballasted so this will save the back strain, started on a 60.5 inch model ,the partly made frames are still on the bench as have been busy with digging out under the house making a Dungeon ,well workshop, so model building on the slow side now......With the photo's on my second run with her stripped the (so called heavy coupling) chewed the alloy off the steel thread, Martin Whitehead replaced this for me with a brass end , as the other end was nice and firm so we didn't worry about changing it  :o , big mistake the next model day stripped the other alloy section ,and with an off shore breeze had to take a swim to rescue her, so  Martin replaced the other end and finally got to test her out yesterday at the model morning , she run sweet as ,,,still playing around here trying to work out how to put a video clip up ??? :-))