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Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: john44 on September 23, 2019, 08:39:32 pm

Title: Coloron wood dye
Post by: john44 on September 23, 2019, 08:39:32 pm
what has happened to the above wood dye, it seems to have gone to a really c--p water based
Dye that is not absorbed by the wood as the old oil based dye was.
It is rubbish >>:-(


John
Title: Re: Coloron wood dye
Post by: CaptainJoshie on September 23, 2019, 10:01:27 pm
Yep! That's the EU rules for you! >:-o


A few years back the EU made a ruling about VOC's and decreeed that we should use water based product! <*<


I have a lot of wood on my Broom 30/Skipper (Fullsize cruiser) and needed a supply of dye, fortunately I found a small supply of the old high voc's version on eBay, old new stock! Works a treat and should last me out!


The new stuff is truly rubbish, it fades badly as well! :((


Funny thing is the rules apply to varnish also! Water based on a boat is madness! Thank goodness the Dutch don't slavishly follow the EU as the UK government do so I now use Eppifanes varnish high in voc's!


John.



Title: Re: Coloron wood dye
Post by: derekwarner on September 23, 2019, 10:33:04 pm
Feast Watson.......a truly beautiful range of wood stains  :-))

Thank goodness that OZ does not subscribe to such Rules........so will your options relax after or post Brexit?.... {-)  ..... Derek


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Title: Re: Coloron wood dye
Post by: tigertiger on September 24, 2019, 05:18:42 am
*** We are drifting into politics here***
Please avoid.
Title: Re: Coloron wood dye
Post by: Baldrick on September 24, 2019, 05:29:20 am
Feast Watson.......a truly beautiful range of wood stains  :-))

Thank goodness that OZ does not subscribe to such Rules........so will your options relax after or post Brexit?.... {-)  ..... Derek



  We're thinking of leaving the planet before then
Title: Re: Coloron wood dye
Post by: malcolmfrary on September 24, 2019, 09:32:41 am
Water based does not have to mean that the resulting paint, when dried and cured, is water soluble.  Acrylics are usually water based, but if you get any in the wrong place, they need a lot more than water to shift after they have cured.
Just thinking out loud, but if a stain was thinned with something runnier than water, like isopropyl, would it soak in better?
I still prefer oil based paint, I can usualy predict what my results will be and the surfce rarely needs any extra protection.
Title: Re: Coloron wood dye
Post by: tonyH on September 24, 2019, 09:43:14 am
Use Rustins solvent based instead.
Works for me.
 :-))
Title: Re: Coloron wood dye
Post by: TailUK on September 24, 2019, 12:15:44 pm
Liberon, Morrells and Colron are all still readily available in spirit and solvent free.  Just check flea-bay!
Title: Re: Coloron wood dye
Post by: john44 on September 24, 2019, 01:47:29 pm
Liberon, Morrells and Colron are all still readily available in spirit and solvent free.  Just check flea-bay!






Thank goodness for that,


John
Title: Re: Coloron wood dye
Post by: Baldrick on September 24, 2019, 05:49:33 pm
Actually also Wilco do their own brand "Traditional wood dyes"  50% VOC's.