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Title: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on September 30, 2019, 08:06:52 pm

Hi all i bought this off my brother (he decided it was too frustrating for him) there are a few problems to sort out on it (I need to strip the decking off and square the frame up , it's a bit warped) he took the planking off which has saved me a job (he bought some really thin wood for the planking as he struggled with the supplied wood but it's so thin I can see it disappearing when sanded do I'm going to use the supplied wood) here are some pics, I've managed to get the deck off fairly easily getting the wood off the deck and squaring the frame may be quite a bit harder.This will be a very slow build.

(https://i.ibb.co/f9Kv1Yp/WP-20151226-23-13-10-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/20rSKM4/IMG-20190930-1190.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/fp90dXv/IMG-20190930-22747.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/9cwn9gR/IMG-20190930-30759.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/V3ybD2M/IMG-20190930-11103.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/BtTS302/IMG-20190930-43250.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/YpxCD95/IMG-20190930-48573.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/26YtmF8/IMG-20190930-5692.jpg)
I think the pins hes used in the transom are way out of scale.
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: Capt Podge on September 30, 2019, 08:30:45 pm
Well, you've got a tough job on your hands there KP, but having viewed some of your previous builds I'm sure you will get it sorted.
Enjoy  :-) .


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: ballastanksian on September 30, 2019, 10:05:25 pm
Wishing you luck with the build Ken. Getting all the nails out will instantly make life lots easier and tidier.
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on October 05, 2019, 05:16:05 pm
Hi all well I've removed the deck planking squared up the frame and are attached the front decking. I thought I would get away with doing nothing to the rear deck but on closer inspection I think he put the last 2 bulkhead the wrong way round since the second to last is narrower than the last (the phrase one step forward 2 back comes to mind) anyway I managed to get the rear deck off now I'm not sure what to do the frames seem to be impossible to unglue, any suggestions (I've tried steaming over a kettle but they won't budge) would it hurt the plywood if I soaked the stern in a bucket over night.
(https://i.ibb.co/4NCx7Qz/IMG-20191005-53659.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/S5X4QPS/IMG-20191005-5324.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/n8pVfzV/IMG-20191005-43765.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Z6tg4W1/IMG-20191005-4169.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/v1091Pm/IMG-20191005-29524.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/0hF2HLB/IMG-20191005-17751.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: Capt Podge on October 05, 2019, 05:29:49 pm
It should be possible to add thickness to the narrower frame and, if necessary reduce the thickness of the last one.... Maybe?
That would then negate the need for soaking.


Best I can think of at the moment.


Regards,
Ray.

Actually, if the frames are different in shape it would be wise to create templates first.
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: Mark T on October 05, 2019, 05:39:48 pm
It should be possible to add thickness to the narrower frame and, if necessary reduce the thickness of the last one.... Maybe?
That would then negate the need for soaking.


Best I can think of at the moment.


Regards,
Ray.

Actually, if the frames are different in shape it would be wise to create templates first.


This is what I would do - Shape the first frame and then build the other one up with some flexible wood.  Thats one big challenge you've taken on there Ken - good luck mate I'm sure you will sort it
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on October 07, 2019, 08:03:12 pm
Hi all corrected the bulkheads next problem, now the side panels are correctly installed you can see the stern is too shallow so I will probably build this up with wood filler.
(https://i.ibb.co/tQgdHs4/IMG-20191007-12793.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/19GVkQb/IMG-20191007-183.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/8N4JYrc/IMG-20191007-57773.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/9tgtH1Y/IMG-20191007-22672.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on October 12, 2019, 06:00:20 pm
Well 1 step backwards leads to another step backwards, deck had to come off again. I was about to start planking it again and I thought surely that hump shouldn't be there.
(https://i.ibb.co/m8dXsNb/IMG-20191012-23496.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/0ZBmmYD/IMG-20191012-37950.jpg)

Also I dont know if you can see it from the photo but there is a gap between the bulkhead and the deck (I thought the small oblong hole in the decking was a hatch or something at first but now I see it is a locating peg for the decking) another wrongly glued bulkhead.

I managed to get the bulkhead off (it wasn't fully home due to wood dust and glue formed at the bottom of the joint) (all nicely held in place with dried glue) took ages to cut it all away, anyway as you can see it's all nicely flush and fitted now.
(https://i.ibb.co/V2PsNV6/IMG-20191012-50882.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/8b4QG5C/IMG-20191012-45925.jpg)

Hopefully I can now proceed as if it were a new kit (apart from the splits in all the bulkheads due to where it was planked before cant think of anything to do about that, if I glue them back together I think it will make it too hard to put new pins in) I'm hoping when its replanked I can drill holes for the pins (they will only be for show anyway)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on October 13, 2019, 08:32:44 pm
Ok so I've decided to start decking it, the instructions are not at all clear it shows you decking over the false deck by 2 mm for the first 120 mm and no longer mentions that afterwards (I can understand that as the planking for the sides is 2mm thick) but why stop that overlap at 120 mm, I looked at pics of the waterways on the actual ship and it looks like there is a wooden strip all the way along the ship from the front to the stern step so I decided to continue the strip all the way along, first problem was keeping a 4 mm wide strip at 2 mm on the deck and 2mm in the air so I decided to add the first plank on the sides and put the waterways over that, I figure the more accurate I can get the first plank the rest must be better so I took great efforts with the first plank.
(https://i.ibb.co/x2B06fq/IMG-20191013-49669.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/x2B06fq/IMG-20191013-49669.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/sjYSVPg/IMG-20191013-20857.jpg)

Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: Capt Podge on October 13, 2019, 09:00:20 pm
Once you have sorted that out I guess you will then lay the king-plank and work outwards to the sides or will you be planking the hull next?


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on October 15, 2019, 08:46:02 pm
When the new planking gets here I will start in the middle and work out.
whilst waiting for my planking to come I decided to start on some of the many other things in this kit, here is a start on one of the cabins.
It's like a kit in its self, I have a feeling I'm going to love this kit, for the calking between the planks I used a lead pencil and just ran it along the edges of the planks.
(https://i.ibb.co/Jmyp1NB/IMG-20191015-6182.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Ns5wj6W/IMG-20191015-16721.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/bRzvNSb/IMG-20191015-239.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/2szVnFt/IMG-20191015-29736.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/rpby2yw/IMG-20191015-36500.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on October 19, 2019, 06:50:17 pm
Hi all I have done some of the planking I've cut the planks at 70mm which I think in this equates to 10 yards at this scale (although the planking supplied is I think is over scale at about 12"wide ) I'm not going to add the nail heads as I've seen on the printed decks available in this scale as I dont believe a nail with a head diameter of 6 mm would be visible at this scale at.
The planking is very slow going but quite satisfying.
(https://i.ibb.co/RjFtJXV/IMG-20191019-40964.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/86VgYv6/IMG-20191019-29629.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on October 20, 2019, 08:37:53 pm
Hi all well this is as far as the decking can go at the moment as I've used all the wood left in the kit for this (they were very generous with wood as it was already fully planked so they nearly give you double what you need) I just hope when the new stuff comes it's similar coloured unlike the last bit (for the waterways which were completely different colours) I realise wood is a natural product so can differ I just hope it's not too much different.
(https://i.ibb.co/98Dp4c5/IMG-20191020-26689.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/wwqgnjb/IMG-20191020-19348.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: Capt Podge on October 20, 2019, 09:31:02 pm
Progressing well now KP - hope the new wood works out ok :-)

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on October 25, 2019, 08:43:20 pm
Hi all well the planks arrived and I was happy the colour was the same but they must have used the other 3mm because these are narrower also they are not 1mm thick either ( not that that matters much once sanded down) I managed to get a knife under a few of the stuck planks and shave some off the inner sides and squashed them together I'm hoping it will be enough so the thinness of the new planks won't notice.
While I was waiting for these planks I planked some of the sides (I must say I'm quite pleased with the results.
I bought a sprung pin pusher for inserting the pins, I intend to drill the holes for the pins first as the ply on the bulkheads is all split and separated from all the pins used to plank it the first time (I would have glued and clamped them but figured it would make them harder and therefore make putting the pins in harder) I think it's all starting to come together.
(https://i.ibb.co/Jj54zGz/IMG-20191025-57365.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/0JzQ7PS/IMG-20191025-12435.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/RDMQcgX/IMG-20191025-3451.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/4fQZc3T/IMG-20191025-19638.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: Capt Podge on October 25, 2019, 09:14:33 pm
You're making good progress now Ken, glad you were able to use the new planks ok, it would have been another setback if you had to return them and await more replacements - good on yer.  :-))


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on October 27, 2019, 08:08:33 pm
Planking of the main deck complete, I've given it a coat of clear varnish to bring out the wood grain.
 

(https://i.ibb.co/zNfp2K5/IMG-20191027-746.jpg)
 
(https://i.ibb.co/P62YmV1/IMG-20191027-5758.jpg)
 
(https://i.ibb.co/2Wz6p0x/IMG-20191027-4727.jpg)
 
(https://i.ibb.co/zNfp2K5/IMG-20191027-746.jpg)
 
(https://i.ibb.co/09TJkwx/IMG-20191027-21574.jpg)

 
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: Martin [Admin] on October 27, 2019, 09:57:53 pm
 
Interesting to see how 'modern' her hull lines look , in her 'naked' state!
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on October 30, 2019, 08:09:51 pm
Hi all got some more of the side planking done and done a bit more to the cabin.
(https://i.ibb.co/74DnFtq/IMG-20191030-9928.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/St4QG5j/IMG-20191030-3528.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/cJJvvYS/IMG-20191030-3351.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/2FYfJcB/IMG-20191030-26272.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/02N8hmW/IMG-20191030-2011.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: Capt Podge on October 30, 2019, 09:27:55 pm
Looks like this is going to be a successful salvage job  O0 .


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on November 02, 2019, 07:17:44 pm
Hi all got more planking done, I'm quite pleased with how the stern is turning out.
(https://i.ibb.co/F440hCt/IMG-20191102-14562.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/cyqN2vp/IMG-20191102-27245.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/d4Nyq8C/IMG-20191102-22702.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: Capt Podge on November 02, 2019, 07:24:00 pm
Nice work Ken, coming together nicely.
Good job you stained the aircraft bits, otherwise some might have ended up on the boat  ;D


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: Mark T on November 02, 2019, 07:53:48 pm
Thats looking good Ken and its always harder to salvage someone else's mistakes so well done.  One of the great things about the Cutty Sark is the hull is plated from halfway down the hull.  So the only planking on show is above that so you can use any wood you like.  Keep the pictures coming  :-))
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on November 12, 2019, 09:11:02 pm
More work on the planking, getting there (mind you so is christmas)
(https://i.ibb.co/k08Dzp1/IMG-20191112-35475.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/59nBhsm/IMG-20191112-34180.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/QYMChk7/IMG-20191112-34829.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on November 16, 2019, 05:33:37 pm
Hi all I know I shouldn't yet but I wanted to see how she would look when sanded down so had a quick go.
I know still Leeds a bit of filling in places but I'm really chuffed how it looks at the moment.
(https://i.ibb.co/Kj3PBtn/IMG-20191116-3019.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/SQYBYh0/IMG-20191116-29505.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/yp8XLXx/IMG-20191116-2920.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on November 18, 2019, 08:49:44 pm
Hi all couldn't resist a bit of varnish (just to see the beauty of the wood grain)
(https://i.ibb.co/L6XrsHv/IMG-20191118-32819.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/vht9K8S/IMG-20191118-31870.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/p29TXGP/IMG-20191118-33999.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/QQ1y2f3/IMG-20191118-33385.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on November 21, 2019, 09:22:48 pm

Planking nearly done now
(https://i.ibb.co/P4RjkqC/IMG-20191121-41720.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/sQsrj9K/IMG-20191121-42623.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/3YbvLkf/IMG-20191121-42102.jpg)
Hope things carry on the way they are.
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on November 27, 2019, 08:49:38 pm
Hi all, sooo close
(https://i.ibb.co/fYFDxL0/IMG-20191127-51311.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/s1gvvY3/IMG-20191127-50716.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/j4bbqVz/IMG-20191127-49772.jpg)

Shaping the planks to fit the ever narrowing spaces  (scharf joints I think their called ) is a very slow job (and each one is a different shape) but it is surprisingly satisfying when they finally fit.
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: Capt Podge on November 27, 2019, 09:03:30 pm
Coming along nicely kp.
The odd shapes you mentioned are known as 'stealers'  :-)) .


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on November 29, 2019, 09:00:29 pm
Finally finished the planking of the hull, luckily the top half is black so I can hide the bad bits under the paint, I'm really pleased with the bottom half though which is good since I will just be varnishing that and leaving the wood to show.
I must admit its turned out far better than I hoped it would.
(https://i.ibb.co/rsyMfMR/IMG-20191129-39417.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/YX8LQXN/IMG-20191129-37971.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/tKvGsc9/IMG-20191129-37201.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/1T4DN9Z/IMG-20191129-36527.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/jvRR2jF/IMG-20191129-35980.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: SailorGreg on November 29, 2019, 10:28:51 pm
 :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on December 01, 2019, 08:31:58 pm
Hi all planking done and varnished, made up the stand, painted the black top part and added some more to the decking structure.
(https://i.ibb.co/6vwM272/IMG-20191201-0440.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/QJ34FJ2/IMG-20191201-59940.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/pXSnmKX/IMG-20191201-59464.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/XY0ZYfr/IMG-20191201-58994.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/rxM6gF9/IMG-20191201-58527.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/y61KZtt/IMG-20191201-58113.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/tKkKSTg/IMG-20191201-1423.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/XWGcVFq/IMG-20191201-0942.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on December 04, 2019, 08:54:59 pm
Bit more done on this.
(https://i.ibb.co/c2zX2Dx/IMG-20191204-13393.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/zsYjQbp/IMG-20191204-12716.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/vD6bpm9/IMG-20191204-1242.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/2yxj0tY/IMG-20191204-11465.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on December 09, 2019, 09:05:24 pm
Hi all well I'm on to the gunwale covers (why they are called that I dont know, they cover nothing have nothing to do with guns and what wale's are I've no idea) anyway I've made a jig to get all the holes in the same place.
(https://i.ibb.co/BCWxTGF/IMG-20191205-20860.jpg)

Drilled all 52 holes
(https://i.ibb.co/GPyNvh0/IMG-20191205-21324.jpg)

Gunwales installed
(https://i.ibb.co/64zS1DH/IMG-20191209-4381.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/QQsPfnn/IMG-20191209-43492.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Y2XzqcP/IMG-20191209-44523.jpg)

Bit annoyed with the instructions (and myself for not checking) they tell you to drill 52 holes @ 1.5 mm but the brass wire they supply is only 1 mm
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: JimG on December 10, 2019, 12:01:51 pm
The gunwale (or gunnel) was a region of thickened planking round the gunports in a sailing warship. This was to provide more strength to the hull. This evolved over time to the top section of hull planking often including the internal planking at deck level. So your gunwhale covers will cover the top of the planking inside the bulwarks to cover the gaps between frames.Wales were sections of thickened planking to give localised strength to the hull, chainwales (channels) were where the lower ends of the standing rigging attached to the hull.
Jim
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: SailorGreg on December 10, 2019, 06:00:39 pm
Splendid job kp.  This is going to look gorgeous when finished.  :-)) :-))   Hope you have a nice space allocated for display.

(One small query - why the small protusion below the forefoot - is there another piece to be added to the keel?)

Greg
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on December 10, 2019, 09:05:40 pm
No sorry mate just not removed it yet.
Well shes got a name on her now, I feel shes looking like a ship now and with the lines on the side the proportions are looking better (I did think without them she was looking slab sided)
(https://i.ibb.co/kDhXNQ2/IMG-20191210-22943.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/TqbK4gy/IMG-20191210-22409.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on December 15, 2019, 05:40:19 pm
Hi all finished the planking on the bow (those little bends in the 2x2mm sapeally were a real pain in the bum, that is the 12th set of those, they kept snapping when trying to bend them) I finally managed to get the bend by soaking them in boiling water then giving them 2 mins in the microwave.
(https://i.ibb.co/VL5fmJd/IMG-20191215-841.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/bWtkTm4/IMG-20191215-6850.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/0GfB6JT/IMG-20191215-5664.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on December 22, 2019, 05:04:41 pm
Got some more work on this one done.
(https://i.ibb.co/fdgt6gD/IMG-20191222-14350.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/wNfq3xL/IMG-20191222-13887.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/4FgTgrD/IMG-20191222-13304.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZVqfy4B/IMG-20191222-12670.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/rHZkpNM/IMG-20191222-1664.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/N314C2S/IMG-20191222-15612.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/FVLcDx2/IMG-20191222-14933.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: plastic on December 22, 2019, 05:10:18 pm
I'm amazed at your skill and patience with this model / wreck rebuild!  :-))   
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on December 28, 2019, 09:04:57 pm
Thanks mate.
Hi all did some to the stern cabin on this, I must say I'm really enjoying this.
(https://i.ibb.co/x1wzTgy/IMG-20191228-41127.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/xYwzDn5/IMG-20191228-41630.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/xDGLwQj/IMG-20191228-40597.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/HP8gcGN/IMG-20191228-43365.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/MgwzSBY/IMG-20191228-44556.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on January 06, 2020, 08:02:34 pm
I made a simple jig to keep the ribs the same distance apart and to keep them perpendicular to each other
(https://i.ibb.co/4j2KkMG/IMG-20200106-56795.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/3zGrqsJ/IMG-20200106-57857.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/7vPQMJV/IMG-20200106-58325.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/kyMfvyV/IMG-20200106-54917.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/b5BCcgj/IMG-20200106-55421.jpg)

Made the cats whiskers too.
(https://i.ibb.co/C643msK/IMG-20200106-55939.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/88NVS51/IMG-20200106-57225.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on January 08, 2020, 08:57:16 pm

I know I'm jumping ahead a bit (well quite a lot) but I thought it might be interesting to add some of the deck furniture.

(https://i.ibb.co/52SMsbp/IMG-20200108-47610.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/VWFLMqL/IMG-20200108-48840.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/y05q4F0/IMG-20200108-5058.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/wWKDLMJ/IMG-20200108-49417.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/LpKjYwy/IMG-20200108-44988.jpg)

I made another little jig for the covers for the hatch as there are a lot of them and they all need to be the same.
(https://i.ibb.co/k4hQ83s/IMG-20200108-3319.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/DprKWsD/IMG-20200108-46633.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/Jp68DY4/IMG-20200108-45545.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on March 04, 2020, 09:12:53 pm
Ok so I'm back on this, first thing to sort is something that's been bugging me since I noticed it in the photos (didn't notice it on the actual thing for some reason) the cowls the anchor chains go into (sorry dont know what they're called) are not the same distances from the hold frame.
(https://i.ibb.co/LpKjYwy/IMG-20200108-44988.jpg)

So sorted that (disguising the old hole was a pain but I dont think it notices now)
(https://i.ibb.co/02yTSvH/IMG-2405.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/k5hNP8w/IMG-2404.jpg)

Personally I think this is a great kit (I know some people say otherwise) I dont know anything about the other kit as I've not built them but I'm not too worried about accuracy so i not too bothered about whether it's the right hull lines or too wide, whatever.


They give you ample material to build her (up till now since my brother stripped the planking off and I stripped all the decking off) they give you nearly enough to build her twice, i only had to buy 10 strips of decking to finish that off and have not had to buy any of the side planking and still have loads left over the quality of the materials is top notch my only slight complaint is the instructions are quite confusing (that said they give you a full size high quality photo of the finished model so you can measure and check off that)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on March 11, 2020, 09:00:24 pm
More work on her, the forward cabins were very confusing.
The steps were a pain to fit and to be honest they couldn't be used anyway, look where they are you would have to get round the belaying pins and anyway they come out under the poop deck (incidentally that is exactly where the instructions tell you to put them.


(https://i.ibb.co/jDhK4jt/IMG-20200310-203955-429.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZSQ81JX/IMG-2443.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/hchn7TY/IMG-2444.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/9YSnVKh/IMG-20200310-203955-427.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/hcsrbhX/IMG-2450.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/j30LBP8/IMG-2449.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/mCfvwjk/IMG-2451.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: plastic on March 12, 2020, 09:24:00 am
I'm continually amazed at the quality of work you are producing considering the broken wreck that you started with!   :-))
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on March 12, 2020, 05:52:51 pm
Thank you so much, I'm glad you like it.
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on March 12, 2020, 09:01:46 pm

Hi well I've got the latrines and the latrines pump done, this is such a major undertaking I can see at least another 2 yrs in this kit.
(https://i.ibb.co/Mph51hF/IMG-2465.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/vkrp3WS/IMG-2464.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/NsYr3Cm/IMG-2472.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/FgGjkZm/IMG-2473.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/KFbpWNR/IMG-2471.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Wsy735B/IMG-2469.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/JnYNjPT/IMG-2470.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/ydD1pmR/IMG-2467.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/BTpngHt/IMG-2468.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/QDgkj0r/IMG-2466.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on March 15, 2020, 05:58:05 pm
Done some of the panels round the top rails and made a start on the bowsprit, even added the figurehead.
(https://i.ibb.co/VYhZkCj/IMG-2487.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/D1jT9FL/IMG-2486.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/L6PTKTK/IMG-2491.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/qL8ZsG2/IMG-2485.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Z8DSk7z/IMG-2490.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: Tafelspitz on March 16, 2020, 08:46:40 am
Simply amazing work! Just like the real thing. Awesome! :-))
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on March 18, 2020, 08:53:30 pm
More done on the bowsprit a start on the dreaded rigging (all be it a very very tiny start)
(https://i.ibb.co/PN0v7sL/IMG-2503.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/pn37rtR/IMG-2502.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/2cgfbJT/IMG-2506.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/vh1W3QG/IMG-2507.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/pyzTN3T/IMG-2505.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/sKwKv4S/IMG-2501.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/y6tgQqw/IMG-2504.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/SdqFBZb/IMG-2500.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on March 21, 2020, 08:23:57 pm
Hi all let me start this update by saying (in the politest possible way)
F$%# b%$$/%% hell.
Let me explain.*
I do my modeling in the spare bedroom, I lay a piece of vinyl down on the floor immediately round my work bench and on top of the bench I put the container with all the brass pieces on the bed behind me after removing some parts needed for my next bit of work I set to adding some of the stanchions on the bow and heard this noise as if a plastic container of billions of bits had fallen on the floor, imagine my surprise when turning round to find that is exactly what had happened and of course as it was BEHIND me and not around the vinyl protection area it had fallen on a "xxxxx" pile carpet, of course the lid came off. So after moving the bed (carpet was under it) shaking the carpet out I got this.

(https://i.ibb.co/vHtYNmz/IMG-2520.jpg)

And after several hours
This
(https://i.ibb.co/7XHsdRQ/IMG-2519.jpg)

So on with the update.
(https://i.ibb.co/WcmhZqV/IMG-2527.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/sj6QLYT/IMG-2526.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/QMgbY6H/IMG-2523.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/xMHqyp7/IMG-2522.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/8K4MCVT/IMG-2524.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/NnnBRgD/IMG-2525.jpg)

I'm really chuffed with how it's going (I should point out check ALL the stanchinons BEFORE gluing them in place as some of the holes are not clear and removing and drilling them after they are glued in place is no easy task.
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: Gudmund on March 22, 2020, 02:25:19 pm
I feel your pain.


Hopefully you got the vast majority of the bits back in the box.


Gudmund
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on March 22, 2020, 07:19:21 pm
Hi all was about to start on the fore mast, but then thought I better sort all the lower stuff before going in an upwards direction.
So first I thought about the problem of doing the portholes heres my answer to getting them all in the right place.
(https://i.ibb.co/QcTL9Xd/IMG-2539.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/T2RxbjF/IMG-2540.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/sC8jvVK/IMG-2541.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/CBZ9VmC/IMG-2542.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/41bcG4t/IMG-2543.jpg)
Then to  do the rudder.
(https://i.ibb.co/cb1HV0W/IMG-2545.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/BKNpFnj/IMG-2546.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/4TdPnm3/IMG-2547.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/mDVh6Hh/IMG-2548.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: JimG on March 22, 2020, 08:56:08 pm
Just checked some photos of The Cutty Sark, the ports don't extend the whole length of the ship, They only show from the bows to near centre where the entry had been cut to allow visitors inside. It would be unlikely to have ports the whole length as she was a cargo ship not passenger so mosat of the hull would have been hold. Also you need to adjust the figurehead angle as it was parallel to the bowsprit so angled upwards not horizontal.
Jim
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on March 22, 2020, 09:20:47 pm
I know this is not an accurate kit and I'm fine with that.
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on March 29, 2020, 07:58:31 pm
Hi all continuing to plod on with this

(https://i.ibb.co/3sBPpC1/IMG-2580.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/KNTZC61/IMG-2583.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/kBTPgpC/IMG-2582.jpg)

Made a start on the main mast.
(https://i.ibb.co/wdhGcf9/IMG-2586.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/sbs2zy8/IMG-2585.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/hM5VjZS/IMG-2588.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/ky8tQ7M/IMG-2587.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on April 01, 2020, 08:46:44 pm
Started on a small amount of rigging.
(https://i.ibb.co/41jKZNK/IMG-2599.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Mnw5HbB/IMG-2597.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/L6JLrhL/IMG-2598.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/sbKHKg1/IMG-2596.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/cyJwb6G/IMG-2595.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on April 02, 2020, 07:43:56 pm
I am totally confused with building the yards on this I dont know which bits to use the instructions are pretty much useless assuming you know what bits are what.
I've tried googling for detail of them and all the pics that come up are either too blurred to see or are from behind the mast help please anyone got a picture of the built yard on this kit.
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on April 03, 2020, 07:53:37 pm

Hi all added the first sails.
(https://i.ibb.co/qg6Grcx/IMG-2608.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/j62kYGg/IMG-2607.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on April 04, 2020, 08:12:22 pm

I've made a start on the first yard .

(https://i.ibb.co/XVBqYpk/IMG-2618.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/98jx4rw/IMG-2620.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/6Z1M0fP/IMG-2619.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on April 05, 2020, 07:55:41 pm
Hi all finished the first yard.
(https://i.ibb.co/2h8n52x/IMG-2639.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/FDCp83r/IMG-2640.jpg)

And before I get comments about the order I'm building this in I know it's not per instructions but hey they are pretty useless anyway.
I've added the first real sail.
(https://i.ibb.co/xjws0WQ/IMG-2631.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/x5THkx3/IMG-2638.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/fvgZJSp/IMG-2636.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/wSZ2fj6/IMG-2637.jpg)

I know it will get in the way of a lot of the rigging but I intend to tie it up out of the way temporarily. I know the lines from the base of the sail which go toward the stern will get in the way but I will leave them till last.
Apart from the instructions i really like this kit (yes I know it's not an accurate depiction of the Cutty Sark)

It will still be a lovely model of a clipper ship anyway.
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: Tafelspitz on April 06, 2020, 12:16:01 pm
Looking really, really good. Dig your detail work  :-))
Dom
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: Mark T on April 06, 2020, 05:47:27 pm
Looking really, really good. Dig your detail work  :-))
Dom


Yea I agree Dom its looking really nice - top job mate  :-))
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: ballastanksian on April 07, 2020, 10:04:14 pm

Ken, I think you have found your Opus with this model. I have enjoyed your modelmaking over the last four years and appreciated the quality of your work (even though you often get all modest and question your own abilities ) in a variety of subjects, but this model is beautiful.


To have taken a basket case that some people would have binned as being a ''xxxxx'' and have got the results you have is astounding. You definitely need to get some more traditional model boat modelling done in the future as your detail work will enhance the hull building you have mastered. The rigging looks tight and tidy.


On a last note, we often jump around doing different bits of a model straying from the 'official build sequence'. I have read numerous occasions where a modeller thought a particular job should be done in a different sequence, and doing something out of sequence, say making the ship's boats before the ship is valid.


I think doing a bit of something different breaks up the monotony of a large job, though sometimes such a large job needs completing so that you don't get out of the habits and skills you honed over the work so far progressed, as going back, you have to remember all the little cheats and knacks.



Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on April 10, 2020, 09:06:56 pm
Thanks mate, hows things, yes I'm (surprisingly) enjoying this may have to get back to the Soleil after this.
I've even surprised myself in the fact that I'm enjoying the rigging (that said these must be the worst instructions I've ever had considering there are 5 fold out plans and a 3/8"  thick book) they are the least helpful instructions I've ever read (possibly why my brother struggled so much with this kit)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on April 11, 2020, 07:03:15 pm
Hi all bit more done got the coppering room done (changed the top door as using the kit one and adding the embellishments made the door ridiculously thick) and the central ward room also more rigging on the sail (probably doesn't even notice) but it's there
(https://i.ibb.co/2kqkDxf/IMG-2667.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/BLjsrpz/IMG-2666.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/LrM28Xb/IMG-2668.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/RT9VknM/IMG-2669.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/qYZb7Wg/IMG-2664.jpg)

You cant really tell but some swearing was involved in the practically invisible rigging you cant even see on the sails.
(https://i.ibb.co/R29mxbp/IMG-2671.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/cvKpf9x/IMG-2661.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/tBWvdWn/IMG-2663.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/GFb8TsT/IMG-2670.jpg)

Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: Tafelspitz on April 13, 2020, 03:30:01 pm
I know I repeat myself, but that's some fantastic work right there  (https://www.cosgan.de/images/midi/verschiedene/b020.gif)
Dom
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: Mark T on April 13, 2020, 03:42:02 pm
Looks lovely in the sunshine  :-))   The bowsprit is great and I really like the way the rigging goes through the Martingale - lovely work!
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on April 13, 2020, 08:45:18 pm
Made one of the ships launches and added some upper shrouds.
(https://i.ibb.co/8dnzMbH/IMG-2690.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/ryCX7xs/IMG-2687.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/d764njq/IMG-2689.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/c64JLVp/IMG-2692.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/wCXBBC7/IMG-2691.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/C60QPM5/IMG-2693.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/mX2ZLMy/IMG-2694.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/g99wLpR/IMG-2696.jpg)




Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: ballastanksian on April 14, 2020, 07:55:09 pm

You've done super work on the sails Ken :-)) It amazed me when I first studied the anatomy of a canvass sail!


Yeah, not bad thanks Ken. I am easing my way back into some model boats again. I need to complete the destroyer and Monitor and then I can play with cruisers.
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on April 27, 2020, 07:25:00 pm
Hi all well I just couldn't stand looking at those sloping shrouds any more.
(https://i.ibb.co/8xcBfxP/IMG-2851.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Jn2sD2b/IMG-2850.jpg)
Title: Re: Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
Post by: kpnuts on April 29, 2020, 08:56:43 pm
Done a bit more on this one.
(https://i.ibb.co/RyXkpvg/IMG-2864.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/8N16nYs/IMG-2866.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/vPj5kLL/IMG-2865.jpg)