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Title: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on June 23, 2021, 08:52:17 pm

So heres the next lamb to the slaughter.
(https://i.ibb.co/J5B5jgj/PSX-20210623-203428.jpg)
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Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: Plastic - RIP on June 24, 2021, 07:23:50 pm
That looks like a nice model - looking forward to see this build - the last 1/12 F1 that I built was the Tamiya Ferrari 312T
Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on June 25, 2021, 08:41:02 pm
Work begins on the Renault RE20 Turbo, I think I'm going to enjoy this, my first F1 car, looks quite complex and well detailed.
(https://i.ibb.co/4pD0B51/IMG-7246.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/J2JS1vG/IMG-7247.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/hdYYwF3/IMG-7248.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/9vz3RRT/IMG-7251.jpg)
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Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on June 26, 2021, 08:50:02 pm
First disappointment with the Renault RE20 Turbo kit all these screws, springs and nuts are all in the same bag, when I bought the Mefistofeles it came with this case (ignore the ships rigging parts it what ive been using it for since) it just goes to show how manufacturers cut corners.

(https://i.ibb.co/GpwXJ6r/PSX-20210626-203640.jpg)
Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on June 27, 2021, 08:23:01 pm
The level of detail in this kit is awesome I love the way they've done the working suspension (not even left the first page of the instructions)
I decided to jump ahead a fair way on the instructions and mak a start on the engine.
Talk about detail it even had the gearbox casting number There are 28 parts to just those cylinder heads, the pulleys all work I've barely started the engine if this is what F1 kits are like I think I will be building lots more.

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Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: SteamboatPhil on June 28, 2021, 08:29:40 pm
Brilliant another great piece of work, question ,for me the numpty and not having made a kit (airfix of course) for many years and getting  into it, what glue / bonding do you use, I guess the days of the big rubbish squeeze tubes have long gone  :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on June 28, 2021, 08:50:07 pm
Generally mate I use super glue (don't use it on clear parts as when it dries it foggs the clear parts up(I've been told if you dip them in Johnson clear first they don't fog up but I've not tried it so cannot confirm that) I use parts glue for clear parts.


More work done on the RE20, so many control cables to add

(https://i.ibb.co/zRNG41S/IMG-7288.jpg)
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Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on July 01, 2021, 08:42:40 pm

Work on the RE20 continues, ive barely started the engine, I'm pleased with the way the weathering on the fuel lines look.
(https://i.ibb.co/0jbw654/IMG-7304.jpg)
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Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on July 10, 2021, 09:22:20 pm
OK so you may have noticed I've not posted for a week, well the house insurance doesn't like people posting on social media when you are away.
We were in Scotland last week visiting my missus very poorly father.
We went on a walk up screel hill (they call it a hill, it's more like a small mountain) it was well worth the climb though the view was nothing short of spectacular.
I recon you could see for 30 miles in all directions (and that's not on a clear day)
(https://i.ibb.co/5xZm1mJ/IMG-7415.jpg)
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(https://i.ibb.co/72kXMCW/IMG-7411.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/1Lq3cL0/IMG-7410.jpg)

Anyway back to the build more work done on the suspension and a start on weathering the front engine casing, lot more to do on this, for some reason my usual methods are not working I usually find mixing talc with the paint or sprinkling it on gives the white highlights I want also I generally add burnt umber to get a burnt on from heat oil effect none of which seem to be working here. I don't understand as I've used these methods for years and they've worked every time, can't think what I'm doing different, dementia I recon.
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Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on July 11, 2021, 08:51:30 pm
Hi all started back on the cockpit.
(https://i.ibb.co/c8WX2T6/IMG-7419.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZLy4hCb/IMG-7420.jpg)
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Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on July 12, 2021, 08:56:45 pm
There are so many cables with this, ive barely started (gets quite confusing)
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Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on July 14, 2021, 09:09:32 pm

More done to this (I'm really enjoying this)
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Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: SteamboatPhil on July 14, 2021, 10:12:14 pm
Was the rivet detail on the moulding or did you add it ?
Looking good
Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on July 15, 2021, 06:24:09 am
Rivet detail was molded in.
Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on July 17, 2021, 06:58:26 pm
More work on the RE20 the ht leads are very soft rubber tubing onto which you are supposed to push these very hard vinyl plug caps, totally impossible so my answer get some copper wire file the end down so the rubber tube fits in then push the vinyl caps on the wire (at the thicker end) then slide the cap onto the tube.

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Those nuts on the suspension roots caused more than a few swear words what a pita (can't tell you how many times they ended up on the floor) a real trial of patience.

(https://i.ibb.co/9w2vKQ1/IMG-7489.jpg)

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Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on July 18, 2021, 09:23:42 pm
OK so we all know yellow is a pita but as a lot of this is yellow I thought I would spray some of it (I have to say I'm really pleased with the outcome)

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(https://i.ibb.co/MyTx053/IMG-7514.jpg)

those brake disks were a bit of a disappointment fit wise the twin discs would not go together, ther is a shoulder the outer disk is supposed to slide over (it didnt) but a little work with a dermel (by hand not in the dremel)grinding disk persuaded it to fit.
(https://i.ibb.co/G9QDpKc/IMG-7513.jpg)
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Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on July 21, 2021, 07:49:14 pm
More progress on this.
(https://i.ibb.co/FXt8dzs/IMG-7533.jpg)
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Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: SteamboatPhil on July 21, 2021, 08:00:46 pm
Truly brilliant  :-))
Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: Circlip on July 22, 2021, 11:20:08 am
Even without KPnuts mods, the standard of detailing in the basic ( ???? ) kit is vastly superior to Airfix's original two bob kits, but Tamiya really set the ball rolling.


  Regards  Ian.
Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on July 22, 2021, 09:04:31 pm
OK first off (as with everything in this kit) either the locating holes are too small or the locating pins are too big either way on the rear suspension it is really important to drill parts 342L and 343L holes out with a 1.8 mill drill like this.
(https://i.ibb.co/pKNq5p1/IMG-7545.jpg)

Or you will end up with the problem I had with getting it off without snapping the pin that it goes into off as it will not go fully home if you don't drill it out.


The pluming on this is a nightmare (I should have labeled all the pipes at the start of this build) I am constantly having to go backwards and forwards through the instructions to find which pipe goes where, lesson learned.
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Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on July 24, 2021, 04:59:15 pm
Hi all the instructions tell you to leave 2.5 mm of the stud sticking out of the hub and thread the wheel nut onto that unfortunately the narrow part of the hole  into which you are supposed the thread the studvont is recessed 3 mill into the nut, my initial thought was to sand 3 mm off the nut thus bringing the thread able area forward, however the nut is tapered (as is the centre of the wheel) in the end I decided to drill the nut out so the hole was the same all the way through then drill that out 1.4 mm and thread that onto the stub, worked a treat.
(https://i.ibb.co/yNyMZNm/IMG-7581.jpg)
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(https://i.ibb.co/Y7FZP1v/IMG-7590.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/zH46wZM/IMG-7589.jpg)

The skirts are just placed there for a look see as there is loads more to do before they are finally fitted.

I'm really pleased with how this is going, I wonder if protar did any more of these F1 kits and if they can still be had on ebay and such.
Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on July 26, 2021, 08:48:17 pm
More work on this she now has all her wheels, one of the many really cool details of this kit is they even went to the trouble of molding the wear indicators on the tyres.


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Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on July 27, 2021, 09:06:38 pm

Some of the exhaust and turbo parts primed, and the worst decal applied I'm not going to say that was hard but it did involve quite a few expletives and quite a bit of nail biting (they needed cutting anyway)
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Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on July 28, 2021, 09:14:42 pm
So did some work on the turbos and exhausts and added another decal (these big decals are a real pita I think I in the future I may cut big decals into smaller ones.
I'm really peed off I've got to take the rear suspension all off as I've forgotten to add the air cooling ducts to the disks, gthey were a pain in the first place.
(https://i.ibb.co/pR0NMmx/IMG-7654.jpg)
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Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on July 29, 2021, 08:47:29 pm
More work on the turbos and added the forgotten brake cooling ducts.

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Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on July 30, 2021, 07:45:17 pm
Well the turbos are installed (what a pita) loads more plumbing to add, and of course (I'm really dreading this) the headrers. Added a couple more decals to the fuselage soon be able to add the pontoons permanently.
(https://i.ibb.co/XVGVP6W/PSX-20210730-192723.jpg)
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(https://i.ibb.co/VNN502T/PSX-20210730-192830.jpg)

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Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on July 31, 2021, 06:59:51 pm
Added those headers (if I had hair I wouldn't have now) they needed loads of heating and bending to get anywhere near fitting.
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Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on August 01, 2021, 09:33:43 am
I didn't realise the pontoons on these cars floated (they are mounted on a leaf spring of some sort, at least that's what it looks like to me)
Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: Circlip on August 01, 2021, 10:08:25 am
Was this due to "Skirts" originally fitted? Renault got the FIA to ban them I thought due to turbo probs?


  Regards  Ian.
Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on August 01, 2021, 07:17:29 pm

I don't know mate.
Hi all nearing the end, it says on the box removable covers to show detail, well it took me near on 2 hrs to get those side skirts to look anything like good fitting. I can imagine the conversation oh let me show you all the detail, by the time I got the skirts off they would have lost the will to live so the skirts will be staying on (shame after all the work that went into the turbos)
(https://i.ibb.co/yBprPhT/IMG-7731.jpg)
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Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on August 03, 2021, 08:51:08 pm
Work progresses on the RE20, on the last leg now. Bit peed of with the instructions re the seat belts if you follow the instructions your seat belts will go round the seat nearly twice so now I need to alter them and they were a pita the first time.
(https://i.ibb.co/QPDFdsv/IMG-7748.jpg)
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Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: T888 on August 03, 2021, 09:03:27 pm
Nice  :-)) :-))


You should apply for a job with Red Bull F 1 looks like they could do with some one who can do a good job building F1 cars. {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on August 03, 2021, 09:18:02 pm
Thanks mate
Title: Re: Italari 1/12 Renault RE20 Turbo
Post by: kpnuts on August 05, 2021, 04:53:32 pm

Well this is in tribute to Joe (my missus dad)who sadly died this morning
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