Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Navy - Military - Battleships: => Topic started by: Backerther on October 27, 2021, 05:31:37 am
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Hi frogman3 ;
Max number of planes loaded aboard the full scale HMS Fencer was I understand were 22 while I have 23 Seafire fighters for my 1/96 Fencer. However,actual number of Seafire I put on the flight deck is 14 for the convenience'sake to get easy access to the inside radio gears at the sailing spot.
1/2;22 planes are set on the flight deck.
3/4/5;When sailing on the water,around 14 planes are suitable to keep an easy maintenance on the shore.
Moreover,this is not an attack carrier like USS super carriers so that it's rather strange if the planes were loaded fully and I think even 14 planes are rather many for the CVE Fencer,perhaps...? %% {-) O0
6/7;Fighter No1 is now taking off at full throttle and flaps fully down,tail gear up passing beside the bridge, seen off by the crews wishing a safe return.!!!! {-) O0 %% ok2
8;Fighter No2 has also started the engine for take off..The deck is surrounded by so tense an air.... {-) {-) {-)
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HI Backether
some very nice pics of your hms fencer an she is sailing beautifull an looks real an ive been studying them to see the detail an i will say that your model work is brilliant very well done :-))
an my NIMITZ pics are all over the show on my p/c SO it will take a few hrs to find the pics as they were all put in a folder as i have all or most of my NIMITZ 7YR BUILD in a folder but for now ive found up a shot of my NIMITZ still in the build stage with my wife jen holding it hope you like it an there will be more pics to follow later
https://ibb.co/mHbpVYC (https://ibb.co/mHbpVYC) :-))
chris
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Hi frogman3;
Amazingly huge hull,first of all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)) :o O0 {-) ♫～♩～♫～ :o
I can't find any suitable words to express exactly my present impressions when I have just seen the pic.!!!
How I envy you and your space to work for the ship as well as so cooperative and broad-minded wife. :-))
Without such a wonderful wife's cooperation,a great model of RCed gigantic super carrier could not be successfully done...
I am waiting for the pics showing nice sailing on the water like a real ship.!!
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HI Backerther lovely pic of you thank you :-)) an i will post one of me when i can find it an here are a few pics of my NIMITZ as got quite a few but i dont want to overload you on pics an the first pic is where NIMITZ is in the test tank checking for leaks an stablity an how much weight will be needed to make her sit propberly in the water
https://ibb.co/XtcNBHG
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AN A shot of her up the pond on her display table
https://ibb.co/pntwBVL
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an crew figures in her bridges an the whole ships lights up as three elevators all work up an down an the hanger doors all open an close from R/C as does all the lights an 5 working radars on the mast an the big sp49 on the rear mast near the bridge an the freshnel landing lights all work
https://ibb.co/ZLhNpX6
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stern shot of her an ive still have to fit all the safety railings an such
https://ibb.co/Ld0GCdm (https://ibb.co/Ld0GCdm)
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on the water with the front elevator in the down postion an hanger door open as she had aircraft in her hangers as well
https://ibb.co/pb1BBP3
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Bow shot an the bridel catches are spring loaded to if it hits the concreate wall of the pond it wont cause an damage
https://ibb.co/2jGbgpP
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an some aircraft shots as in my hand a super hornet in 1/144 scale with nav lights an strobe lights which will be seen in the next shot
https://ibb.co/LtvRM00
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https://ibb.co/WstdCqY
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https://ibb.co/Cm0VTRg
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https://ibb.co/vVNg1R2
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flightdeck all with the lights on ready for flight operations
https://ibb.co/rvSnRkc
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here aircraft elevator in down postion with hanger door open so that aircraft can be seen in the hanger
https://ibb.co/7GNv0PR
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an here my wife jen is on gaurd to stop people touching the carrier as its in a model show but no public in yet as we had just set up NIMTZ for the show very early as it took an hr to fit all the planes on her an they are held on by metal pins fitted in the planes to fit in holes in the flightdeck well that will do for now an if you want to see any more just say an i'll post some more different pics hope you like the pics Sir
chris
https://ibb.co/d5Ts2y9 (https://ibb.co/d5Ts2y9)
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Hi Chris,
Yor wife Jen must be long suffering of bits and painting everywhere in the house, you don't need a "please don't touch card" on that!
(No offence intended: Please don't take it the wrong way -just the second picture you posted of someone looks very commtted to the other halves cause and some very friendly chuckling seeing it)
Superb models in all cases. Would love to have the patience to make something that size, I would never see it through. When I was a kid one of my plastic models was HMS Victorious but I was probably pre-teens and made a bit of a mess of it though I had it on the shelf for years until the usual problem with the humbrol plastic cement in tube type dried out and it started to fall apart!
Rich
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HI Rich yes i get your message an jen is happy an helps me with my build as she has her jewrly making hobby but the stern look she has on her face is because she has an got cancer an not very happy at times as she has good days an bad an on this day at the model show she was not feeling to good no one eles would be either would they <:(
chris
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Oh no, Chris, I didn't mean that (PM'd)! Credit to both of you.
Rich
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Oh no, Chris, I didn't mean that (PM'd)! Credit to both of you.
Rich
HI Rich no worryies
CHRIS an jen
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HI again Backerther
hope you liked the pics of my NIMITZ an i will post some more pics of her if you want an ive been studying your pics of your HMS Fencer an the detail is fantastic on her an i really like your seafires as the one taking off looks real this is a very well made model Sir very well done indeed :-)) an how long did it take to build ?
Regards
chris
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Hi frogman3;
First of all,I am awfully sooooory to be late in replying to your postings that include many marvelous pics of USS Nimitz 1/144. I am a part time worker who works 2-3days a week and got back home one hour before today ,though I am too old now. And I have been watching your pics now in detail and they looked really magnificent every inch the USS Nimitz.!!! O0 {-) :-)) :-)) :-))
"Stunning and exceptional work of model ship in every part of the carrier "is my impression.!!!
My HMS fencer is a model ship while your USS Nimitz is a real ship merely scaled down to 1/144.!! {-) O0 %%
In other words,I am a model ship builder while you are a shipwright. I am correct, amn't I, sir??? {-) %% ok2
1/2;Diesel engine sound unit, while actual main engine of the full scale carrier was steam turbine.!!!!!! {-) {-)
3;Ballast test using 2.3m swimming pool.
4;HMS Fencer 1/96 going back to Greenock for maintenance....?? {-) {-) {-) ok2
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HI Backerther
AN glad you liked my NIMITZ pics many thanks but i like your fencer as its very nicely detailed an i love your seafires SIR they are some bueatifull planes an again very well detailed so all in all we both have have some very nice models an your model fencer is every bit as good as my NIMITZ its just that my model is bigger but we are both model ship builders an very good they are too
CHRIS an ps may i have your first name if possible but if you dont want to give it thats ok an have a nice day
chris :-))
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HI AGAIN
REGARDS YOUR PICS is the first pic a tamyia sound unit ? an i love your deck on your fencer it looks like wood plankin very well done sir she sure is a bueaty of a model very well done an how long did it take you to build ?
chris
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Hi Frogman3 hope you enjoy this link to Gambier Bay. This link is a very comprehensive look at my build over the years.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,59698.msg626675.html#msg626675 (https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,59698.msg626675.html#msg626675)
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WELL this is a work of art an very enjoyable to look at very well done
chris :-))
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Hi Chris glad you enjoyed the pictures the build only took six years to complete. Hopefully I will build the Fencer kit but with a lot more detail added. Just one more seen many times Gambier Bay seen along side a Fletcher class
Stan.
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Hi Chris glad you enjoyed the pictures the build only took six years to complete. Hopefully I will build the Fencer kit but with a lot more detail added. Just one more seen many times Gambier Bay seen along side a Fletcher class
Stan.
HI Stan be nice so see you build it but i cant see how you will fit on more detail than gambier bay as its the tops
chris
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Hi frogman3:
Yes,I used Tamiya made diesel engine sound unit for a Tiger tank for a steam turbined carrier.! {-) O0
It passed 12 years to complete my HMS Fencer that contained about 5 intervals,some were over 1year or more... {-)
I guess years purely spent for building possibly is 4 or so... %) ;D
My first name is Kiyoshi(聖志）that means "holy will"though my family is Buddhist while my university is Christian.！ It sounds something contradictory?? {-) In this sense,many Japanese are sooo contradictory too !!!!
I'll attach a video as follows and pay attention to the simulated diesel engine sound as well as smoking test, that was taken in the video in earlier stage of sailing tests. {-)
Can you hear the sound,sir ??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvY8JFrqUyM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvY8JFrqUyM)
Kiyoshi
Pic;HMS Fencer 1/96 coming back to her homeport near Glasgow at dusk {-) ??
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So yes, we hear the diesel engine sound %) ......models that talk with the Public are attractive or alive :-))
HMS Fencer as built had two boilers and a single main steam turbine and single screw with numerous smaller general service steam turbine generator sets [DC], so each of these elements would be hush power
Two diesel generators would have been installed to provide auxiliary power [electricity] for a cold ship [until steam is raised]
If any 'smartie' at the pond questioned the diesel engine sound, you could tell them the vessel is experiencing some steam turbine Gen Set electrical issues, so the auxiliary diesel generators are running O0
Derek
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So yes, we hear the diesel engine sound %) ......models that talk with the Public are attractive or alive :-))
HMS Fencer as built had two boilers and a single main steam turbine and single screw with numero
Two diesel generators would have been installed to provide auxiliary power [electricity] for a cold ship [until steam is raised]
If any 'smartie' at the pond questioned the diesel engine sound, you could tell them the vessel is experiencing some steam turbine Gen Set electrical issues, so the auxiliary diesel generators are running O0
Derek
You Gun Gobbies had an answer for everything in our RN Weapons dept. 😀😀
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Sorry, not sure what you mean Ned?................... these things happen in real life......
Remember the HMS Queen Elizabeth had a bout of electrical generation issues a few years back
Derek :-X
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Hi Derek;
It's so nice for me to have your kind description and reply on HMS Fencer 1/96 and 1/1. %% :-)
Pic;Leaving the naval base slowly and calmly for the next mission of transporting Spitfires at dusk.?? {-) %)
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It is my pleasure Kiyoshi to be able to offer a plausible [if inventive] explanation for the sound of the Vessel as she departs her Naval Base berth
Remember the Children will love the sound, and 90% of the Parents will think the Battleship is very detailed and good looking {-)
Don't worry about Ned, he must be asleep :P
Derek
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Indeed,even I once used to think a battleship was very attractive and powerful judging from her appearance.
However,I like airplanes and warships that will lead to naturally a aircraft carrier. {-) O0
Dioramic scenes unfolded aboard the HMS Fencer. %%
Over 60 crews are working aboard the ship currently and planing to increase more. %)
Woops, I must go to bed.!! {-)
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HI Kiyoshi an thats a lovely name an jen my wife said it sounds bueatifull sorry but your vid wont work on my p/c what a pity AN your fencer looks a very lovely model carrying seafires an here are some pics of my aicraft on my NIMITZ
[/size] 1ST UP is ASW vikeings
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prowler in front of the normall F18 hornet
https://ibb.co/42T4DW3
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an a intruder an a prowler
https://ibb.co/NNNhrqp
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flight deck line up of a some F14 tomcats
https://ibb.co/gwwhyHY
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AN A Hawkeye on the catapult ready for take off
https://ibb.co/6HsfGV5
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an some choppers in a line up on the flight deck
https://ibb.co/CJxk8V4 (https://ibb.co/CJxk8V4)
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AN HERE a tomcat with a phantom in the hangar deck
https://ibb.co/9nBLJ2t
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an some deck gear
https://ibb.co/yncqLZh
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The Fencer model looks great but I prefer the American version U S S Cophaee hence mine will be CVE 12 sporting a disruptive pattern and Catalina aircraft.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Bob Wilson on the Model Boats site has posted a link to HMS Premier which was a merchant conversion aircraft carrier. It is fascinating just what these second line carriers were involved in during the latter stages of the war and well worth reading.
http://www.royalnavyresearcharchive.org.uk/ESCORT/PREMIER.htm#.YXw0cxzTWUk
Colin
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Hi Chris;
I have enjoyed your USS Nimitz 1/144 pics which are so "gorgeous" with lots of fighters and scout plane as seen in a full scale carrier, well recreated every inch!! :-)) :-)) :-))
Pic;HMS Fencer starting hard to starboard with a high speed in the trial run. {-) %% ;D
Another is a full scale USS George.H.W.Bush.Nimitz class carrier overwhelmingly large like Chris's carrier!!
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Hi Stan;
I look forward to your nice build of USS Cophaee as I guess you will build as precise model as possible like you did with other models so far. :-))
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Hi Colin Bishop;
Thanks a lot for a surely interesting reference on the CVE.
I'd like to read the contents. :-))
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Hi Chris;
I have enjoyed your USS Nimitz 1/144 pics which are so "gorgeous" with lots of fighters and scout plane as seen in a full scale carrier, well recreated every inch!! :-)) :-)) :-))
Pic;HMS Fencer starting hard to starboard with a high speed in the trial run. {-) %% ;D
Another is a full scale USS George.H.W.Bush.Nimitz class carrier overwhelmingly large like Chris's carrier!!
HI [/size]Kiyoshi thank you for posting that uss bush pic an yes she is huge [/font]Ive only seen one big carrier at portmouth an that was the JOHN F KENEDDY an she was huge as well as she was ankored out in the solent as she was to big to come into portsmouth harbour [/font]an your hms fencer looks really good comin out of a tight turn just like the real ship an i have some pics of my nimitz pulling some tight turns an will post them when i can find them as she was very stable for such a large model an she sailed in gale force winds up at sheringham pond as the pond is right on the cliff top right next to the sea an boy was it cold at times but when the sun came out an the wheather calmer its the perfect pond to sail from as i can back my car right up to the pond edge so i dont have to carry the ship far to sail [/font]best wishes to you [/font] chris [/font]
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Here are my two CVN's in 1/96 scale. The unpainted deck is the George H W Bush CVN 77 and the painted deck is the Harry S truman CVN 75.
Duane
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WELL some nice models Duane but it would be nice to see trueman with a full load of aircraft
chris
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It will take some time to get the aircraft onboard. I will be casting my aircraft for both carriers of F-18E, F and G versions. The E-2C/D are already produce and look proper along with the Seahawks Sh-60's. Revell's models aren't bad but they have a stricght leg landing gear. A company that produced the proper looking F-18 with the correct gear no longer produces the model in diecast but I pland on useing them to make rubber molds and then cast them. I will have to pull them apart to make many 2 part molds. The last time I went to get casting resin the resin that I needed was out of stock and not known when they will get some in stock. So I will have to check often to see when they have some. I am looking at 60 to 70 aircraft per ship.
Duane
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Here is a video from a fun run that I go to in Oct in Rocky Mount North Carolina that shows the Truman underway. At 1:50 into the video the Truman makes a high speed run past the video camera and makes a hard turn.
1/96 scale Fleet Run 2018 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ibvFFLKhcg)
Duane
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Great looking models on a great looking lake and the camera person in a position to capture the footage in an advantageous way, showing the models at 'sea level' - thank you for sharing :-) .
Ray.
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Great video Duane of some awesome looking Models. Thanks for posting.
Back to the Carrier theme, a Club Member here in Western Australia is building USS Constellation CV64 in 1/72nd scale. Very much a work in progress, but she has sailed about a half dozen times. I will ask his permission to post some pictures.
Nigel
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Great video Duane of some awesome looking Models. Thanks for posting.
Back to the Carrier theme, a Club Member here in Western Australia is building USS Constellation CV64 in 1/72nd scale. Very much a work in progress, but she has sailed about a half dozen times. I will ask his permission to post some pictures.
Nigel
HI Nigel wow it would be nice to see a 1/72 scale carrier on here as my nimitz was only a 1/144 scale carrier an that was nr 9 ft long so a 1/72 must be nr 20 ft long how does he carry it it about ? an any working features like working aircraft elevators an radars an lights an such hope your freind givers you permission to post the pics wow
chris
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Chris, she is just over 15 feet, and is a one-piece hull. My Mate built a covered trailer to transport her. She sits on a trolley whilst on the trailer, which is wheeled off the back via ramps and a winch. This trolley then carries Connie to the lakes edge and then she is launched by reversing the trolley into the water down a natural slope.
A bit of effort is required, but there are always willing Club members around to lend a hand.
I'll speak to him soon about posting pictures.
Nige
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Chris, she is just over 15 feet, and is a one-piece hull. My Mate built a covered trailer to transport her. She sits on a trolley whilst on the trailer, which is wheeled off the back via ramps and a winch. This trolley then carries Connie to the lakes edge and then she is launched by reversing the trolley into the water down a natural slope.
A bit of effort is required, but there are always willing Club members around to lend a hand.
I'll speak to him soon about posting pictures.
Nige
HI Nige wow wow my carrier was a job to lift but backing down into the water is a very good idea as the water will take her weight but could not do that here as we have concrete walled ponds x2 but tell him id love to see his pics of the lanch an sailing with other ships if poss an some shots in side an has he any working featueres like aircraft lifts an radars an such
ATB to you sir
chris