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Title: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Martin (Admin) on July 27, 2022, 08:55:59 pm
 
What do people use for Budget Radio these days, now the HobbyKing only have skeletons in stock these days?

I'm actually after HK-TR6a v2  Rx for the HJK-T4a v2 Tx
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/hobbyking-2-4ghz-mode-2-4ch-tx-rx-v2.html


Dodge job post here:  https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,63982.msg696108.html#msg696108
( Last photo, waterproofing with wax )

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Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: TheLongBuild on July 27, 2022, 09:15:01 pm
We have just replaced all our have a go boats with these.


Sold on Ebay but are Howes Models. £ 49.99 with 2 RX  ( £39.99 with 1 RX)


Radio Remote Control RC Electric Stick Transmitter Receiver 2.4GHz 6 Channel | eBay (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224852446181?var=523720901544)
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Martin (Admin) on July 28, 2022, 12:49:35 pm
 
Thanks TLB, whilst on eBay I spotted this... anyone tried these?

Radio Remote Control RC Single Handed 2.4GHz 6 Channel Set:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325285398104?hash=item4bbc854658:g:CMsAAOSw-vdi4lP-


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Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Peter57 on July 28, 2022, 02:52:25 pm
I have been using a Radiolink T8FB for a while. It is an eight channel system and I think it is available for around £60 with one or two receivers.


Peter
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: chas on July 29, 2022, 08:53:01 am
I've been getting the flyeky badged version of those receivers from Amazon cheaply and without a problem. I've just had a quick look and there are plenty of 3 channel ones, you might have to search harder for the six channel ones.

Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: John W E on July 29, 2022, 03:26:37 pm
Well, I just robbed me piggy bank and I have just purchased one of these Flysky FS-T4B Transmitter 2.4G 4CH Radio Control &Receiver For RC Drone UK STOCK 718760106770 | eBay (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/402365446383) - and not a bad purchase - but we will see how it fairs.    I can remember when we used to pay £70 odd £s for a Futaba 2 channel.   I felt guilty then cos it was more than a week's wages.


John
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: chas on July 29, 2022, 04:00:52 pm
That's a great buy, same thing as the hobbyking badged model. There are several in our club, none has ever had a fault. I notice that they have the six channel receiver for about 13 quid, it works with the four or six channel model.
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Colin Bishop on July 29, 2022, 04:13:18 pm
I recently bought the Radiolink T8FBBT with an 8 Ch RX from Howes for under £55. It connects to my Android phone via Bluetooth which means that the programming screens on the TX are not needed. It's certainly a lot easier to program via the phone App than using the TX on board screen systems and there are a huge number of options available. You can visually see the various sticks and controkls operating in real time on the phone screen and set end points etc. I am very impressed with it.

It is supplied with a rachet throttle left hand stick but there is a spring centering conversion kit included which wasn't too difficult to fit.

It is also possible to program it on a PC but at the moment I think operation via an Apple iPhone is either limited or not supported.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJXs3Q4eQbk

Colin
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: RST on July 29, 2022, 07:52:48 pm
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Thanks TLB, whilst on eBay I spotted this... anyone tried these?

Radio Remote Control RC Single Handed 2.4GHz 6 Channel Set:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325285398104?hash=item4bbc854658:g:CMsAAOSw-vdi4lP- (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325285398104?hash=item4bbc854658:g:CMsAAOSw-vdi4lP-)


...Hi Martin, I bought one from Howes earlier in the year but I'm not very fast with my builds and not done anything other than read the manual and charge it since.  Howes said more receivers for it would be in stock, maybe they are now -dunno.  I'm not sure if I would like sailing a model just twiddling a thumb yet but it was cheap enough to take a punt as it claims lots of extra functions.  I like my Volantex Exmitter transmitter with the throttle spring kit attached, because it feels nice and light in the hands, feels more like a tray transmitter like my F-14 and receivers are relative cheap, but it's basic (also why I like it but I well know it won't suit everyone!).


Rich
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Martin (Admin) on July 29, 2022, 09:44:02 pm
 
Thanks Rich, I'll order one and see how  'good'   it is.....
 
 I want it for the  George Turner Fishing boat:
 https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,68492.msg741843.html#msg741843
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Martin (Admin) on July 29, 2022, 09:55:24 pm
 
I've got a 'bee in my bonnet' now about this ( those that know me; "Here he goes again!" ),
Utube seems very fond of the DumboRC x6 radio sets...
( not what i want but great reviews! )

https://youtu.be/CF8LzcZ7n40
https://youtu.be/2Hl5Ty1kRvY?t=705


Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Martin (Admin) on July 29, 2022, 09:57:38 pm
I recently bought the Radiolink T8FBBT with an 8 Ch RX from Howes for under £55.
Colin

Inwoods are doing the for £60 quid with 2 Rx ..... Inwoods is a mile from where I work!   %)
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: RST on July 30, 2022, 01:11:30 am
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Inwoods are doing the for £60 quid with 2 Rx ..... Inwoods is a mile from where I work!   %)

https://inwoodmodels.com/shop/
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: mbm999 on July 30, 2022, 04:17:16 pm
In case you wanted a TX which could handle multiple models, there is the Flysky FS-i6 with a 6ch receiver included (which can also handle telemetry).Prices change all the time but was £52.57 when i looked.

https://www.banggood.com/FlySky-FS-i6-2_4G-6CH-AFHDS-RC-Radio-Transmitter-With-FS-iA6B-Receiver-for-RC-FPV-Drone-Engineering-Vehicle-Boat-Robot-p-983537.html?cur_warehouse=CN&ID=42482&rmmds=search (https://www.banggood.com/FlySky-FS-i6-2_4G-6CH-AFHDS-RC-Radio-Transmitter-With-FS-iA6B-Receiver-for-RC-FPV-Drone-Engineering-Vehicle-Boat-Robot-p-983537.html?cur_warehouse=CN&ID=42482&rmmds=search)
I bought the FS-i6X back in 2020 for £37 free postage (10ch version)  which was an absolute bargain looking back as the same thing now is £62 (but includes a 10ch receiver rather than the 6ch i got).

Cheers,
Mark
NB.
The throttle stick is not centre sprung so if you want it that way you need to buy the kit, approx £7.
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Martin (Admin) on July 30, 2022, 05:42:07 pm
 
You know Mark, I'm know I've got a Flysky FS-i6 set  and a spare Rx somewhere ....
   trouble is, I've been hiding so stuff from the Mrs. for so long, goodness knows where it is now!   {-)


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Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Martin (Admin) on July 30, 2022, 11:40:35 pm
 
Sot it's a lazy Saturday afternoon, so mucking about with.... stuff!

This is a Spektrum DX3s radio that Andy flogged me at Mayhem at Wicksteed in May.
Good condition, considering it's age .... even powers up!   :o

.... Spektrum radio is several cuts above your normal 'budget' radio ...



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Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Martin (Admin) on July 30, 2022, 11:41:08 pm

Aerial had snapped, repaired with 'hot glue' ... and a black pen.

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Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Martin (Admin) on July 30, 2022, 11:43:23 pm
 
Steering rate knob was also busted, dismantled and centre pin superglued.


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Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Martin (Admin) on July 30, 2022, 11:44:28 pm
 
Rx also looks like it needs a bit of hot glue gasket / bolstering.


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Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Martin (Admin) on July 30, 2022, 11:47:36 pm
 
Question: I found these old HobbyKing 'orange' Receivers in my 'pie in the sky' electronics box ....
                are they comparable with this Spektrum DX3s?


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Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: JimG on July 31, 2022, 07:57:47 am
The Spektrum Rx is labelled DSM while the Orange ones are labelled DSM2 so not compatable. Also from Google the DX3s is quoted as being compatable with surace receivers only and looking at the labelling on the Orange ones they are for aircraft.
Jim
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Tug Fanatic on July 31, 2022, 10:46:00 am
............ Also from Google the DX3s is quoted as being compatable with surace receivers only and looking at the labelling on the Orange ones they are for aircraft.
Jim

As I understand it there is absolutely no difference between the legal spec for aircraft & surface on 2.4ghz. The only obvious difference might be that surface has lower power and not have such a long range.

Having said that I have never heard of anyone flying with a "wheel" type transmitter.
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Colin Bishop on July 31, 2022, 11:42:24 am
Lots of info on the Spektrum website but clearly there is a range difference between the different receivers, i.e. Parkflyer, Full Range etc. Also telemetry capabilities.

It looks a bit of a minefield!

Colin
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Tug Fanatic on July 31, 2022, 11:55:51 am
Lots of info on the Spektrum website but clearly there is a range difference between the different receivers, i.e. Parkflyer, Full Range etc. Also telemetry capabilities.

It looks a bit of a minefield!

Colin

I have always found it very simple.

In terms of range most surface applications are within say 200m. Parflyers, which are small & cannot be seen if they are a long way away, are flown within their limited visual range and full range can fly large models to visual range (which is further as they are bigger) including in congested radio space.

I have often flown with parkfly receivers & never had a range problem over a range that would dwarf any model bating lake.

Telemetry is great if you have the necessary electronics at both ends. If you don't then it is just an expensive receiver.

For model boat use any of them will do perfectly well as long as they are designed to work with your transmitter protocol. How you locate them in the model is the big variable.

Note that none of the above applies to toy type rc systems which normally includes the radio supplied with cheaper rc cars etc which might have very limited range - sometimes around 30metres. 
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Colin Bishop on July 31, 2022, 12:16:24 pm
Sorry, I should gave made myself clearer, yes, the range issue is pretty straightforward but the compatibilities between the various TXs and RXs whether OEM or 3rd party needs careful checking. I Have an older Spektrum DX6i DSM2 TX with two matching RXs (one full range the other parkflyer plus a couple of 3rd party 'Lemon' RXs which are backwards compatible with DSM2.

Colin
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Tug Fanatic on July 31, 2022, 12:33:33 pm
Colin
I fly DSM2 as well.

I agree that protocols can be difficult. Spektrum have had, I think, 4 different protocols. Some receivers work with multiple transmitter protocols some don't. It almost feels like planned product churn to me so that we keep buying new stuff.

I am aware of multiprotocol transmitters ( not Spektrum) but they are expensive and I am not convinced about their reliability for flying although the drone community seems to use them. Having said that may drones are 75mm or 100mm diameter so they cannot be flown very far away without FPV about which I know very little.
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Subculture on July 31, 2022, 01:30:06 pm
I use a multi-protocol module, wasn't very expensive. No issues whatsoever. Effortlessly change between Corona, Spektrum, Futaba, Frsky etc. The protocol switches with the model memory.

Manufacturers shot themselves in the foot with the different 2.4ghz standards. They should have got together and come up with a common standard, instead they tried to lock modellers into their specific brand, and opened up a market for cheaper competition.
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Tug Fanatic on July 31, 2022, 01:36:29 pm
I use a multi-protocol module, wasn't very expensive. No issues whatsoever. Effortlessly change between Corona, Spektrum, Futaba, Frsky etc. The protocol switches with the model memory. ......................


Is that an add on module to a FrSky transmitter or something else?

I looked at buying one but the add on modules appear to have become out of stock and the transmitters with the included modules expensive..................unless you can help.
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Subculture on July 31, 2022, 06:17:12 pm
One of these. Used with a Turnigy 9XRpro. They'll work with most openTX tranamitters.

https://www.hobbyrc.co.uk/jumper-4in1-multiprotocol-module
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Tug Fanatic on July 31, 2022, 06:22:02 pm
Thanks for that but as you can see they are out of stock which they have been for some time.

Hopefully availability will change.
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Subculture on July 31, 2022, 06:43:36 pm
There are alternatives, bit more money e.g. https://www.banggood.com/IRangeX-IRX4-Plus-2_4G-CC2500-NRF24L01-A7105-CYRF6936-4-IN-1-Multiprotocol-ARM-TX-Module-With-Case-p-1225080.html?cur_warehouse=CN&rmmds=buy
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Colin Bishop on July 31, 2022, 06:48:08 pm
I bought my Radiolink from Howes as the price was good and they had it in stock in the UK. It arrived two days later.

I know most of this gear comes from China but I prefer the peace of mind dealing with a UK retailer even if it cost a little more.

Colin
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Subculture on July 31, 2022, 08:57:44 pm
For me, when it comes to electronics often the problem is I can't find what I'm looking for from UK stockists.
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Martin (Admin) on August 01, 2022, 10:54:03 pm

What do people use for Budget Radio these days, now the HobbyKing only have skeletons in stock these days?

I'm actually after HK-TR6a v2  Rx for the HJK-T4a v2 Tx
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/hobbyking-2-4ghz-mode-2-4ch-tx-rx-v2.html


Looks like I may just need AFHDS  compatible Receivers, like the  Flysky FS-GR3E AFHDS !   :-))
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?4063255-Compatible-receivers-to-HK-T4A-transmitter
 
 
 
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: John W E on August 03, 2022, 04:53:17 pm
hi, well, me budget radio from Ebay arrived this morning.   The Fly sky model number FS-T4B.     It came with a 6 channel receiver - batteries were not included.


First impressions - yes it does look cheap and it will not take many knocks I feel.  But, having said that, it is basic - no end points adjustment.   There is the reversal switches for each channel on the front, plus, the bind button and it has something called the range test on it - I need to work this one out.


Came basically packaged in a box but the instructions are in German and I think Spanish - definitely foreign :-)   English writing on the box and that is it . 


I am quite happy with it for £26.00 plus £4.00 odd postage.


John
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 03, 2022, 05:06:26 pm
That's a lot of cells for a 2.4GHz set John.

Colin
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: JimG on August 03, 2022, 08:30:26 pm
The range test button will reduce the transmitted power output when pressed. This is used with aircraft to check the receiver reception, you should be able to walk away around 60 paces and still be getting the signal. If this works then it will give at least 1Km range when not pressed. Not so important with a boat as you will be unlikely to need such a range as this is way out of sight.
Jim
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Car wash !!! on August 09, 2022, 06:36:57 pm
We use these for our have a go boats that the kids use and all four are still working after four years of abuse
Stevenage MBC
Title: Re: Budget Radio ?
Post by: Martin (Admin) on August 14, 2022, 06:04:58 pm
 Anyone interested in a Spektrum DX6i & Rx   BNIB?

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