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Title: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: cbr900 on June 22, 2006, 03:04:32 PM
Hi All,

I don't know if anyone is interested in this build as I have never posted anything like this before so please let me know if you want to see more of what and how I am trying to put this model together, as you will see in the first pick I managed to get the box open with out breaking anything, which for me is a good start.
The kit is suprisingly simple as it is really only a static model which I intend to fit a static diving system into.
Title: Re: L A Class Dallas Sub
Post by: cbr900 on June 22, 2006, 03:17:57 PM
I then started by removing all the parts and cleaning them up and storing them in their order, first off I joined the nose section and built the conning tower and attached it then built the tail section but you don't attach it yet. the next step was joining all the control surfaces, the diving vanes at the rear are cut along the hinge line so that you can make the vanes move up and down, small peices of tube are cemented into the tail cone where I have drilled holes to allow the tube insertion.  Then the vanes are drilled and a rod is installed with a collet on each one join by a small shaped peice of  brass wire I will attach a pic so you can see what I am talking about.

Roy
Title: Re: L A Class Dallas Sub
Post by: Daryl on June 22, 2006, 03:26:55 PM
great insight into how to build a sub, do you mind if I ask what kit is it you are building?
 Look forward to the rest of the build.

Daryl
Title: Re: L A Class Dallas Sub
Post by: colin-stevens on June 22, 2006, 07:03:36 PM
Keep them coming, but who is the manufacturer?
Title: Re: L A Class Dallas Sub
Post by: DavieTait on June 22, 2006, 11:51:24 PM
Definately keep this coming as i've got a Seawolf SSN kit that has been converted into a static dive sub by a lot of people over the pond in the USA and I want to see how you get on so I know how to start off my own one !!

Davie
Title: Re: L A Class Dallas Sub
Post by: cbr900 on June 23, 2006, 01:17:15 AM
The kit is a Trumpeter 1/144 scale USS SSN-21 Seawolf? NOT the Dallas I know I must have read the label without my glass's on blind as a bat.
The next sequence will be posted later today when I have caughgt up with the camera..

Roy
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: DavieTait on June 23, 2006, 12:19:45 PM
Even better its the same kit as mine !!!

DAvie  ;D
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: cbr900 on June 24, 2006, 05:16:51 AM
Well I have now started on the WTC and it seems to be pretty straight forward, the onlu thing I find a bit strange is? the WTC is three seperate compartments which are glued together to make one long WTC, but the four central end caps are drilled through so that wires and tubes can pass from one compartment to the other, as you can gather three compartments become one air chamber, the following pics show the motor attached to the rear most cap with the push rod seals in place, the motor is actually embedded in the end cap, the next pic shows the inner two caps with the pump installed I extended the mounting bracket to position the pump in the centre of this WTC section, and finally as all these were setting I painted the top half of the sub black and yes I like the swirl pattern and it will be coated with clear flat or semi gloss have not decided which yet..

Roy
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: DavieTait on June 24, 2006, 12:22:17 PM
Looking good so far.

What make and where did you source your WTC and the gear for it??
I'm thinking of the motor , pump , ESC , etc.

Davie ( definately determined to do this same conversion to my own Seawolf now )
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: cbr900 on June 25, 2006, 01:36:47 PM
The WTC is one of David Welch Type, and the motor is a GWS used normally for a park flyer as they are light weight,light on power usage and the most important cheap, the esc  will be using is an RCE 50amp made for boats and subs as it is water proof, and I am also using three mini servos to save room, I will be using a small 6v gel cell as a power pack...


ROY
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: cbr900 on June 26, 2006, 10:41:50 AM
Well today the first pic will show the WTC as it will go together, it looked very long when I first put all the peices together, too long for the hull I thought, but once it was all there it fitted into the hull with room to spare, having now fitted all the servos inplace and connected all the wiring, I than placed the pump switch in and the tubing to the pump and the release valve, all that was left was the battery and seal the entire unit..

In the third pic I have added the ballast bag and the plastic ring that not only limits the bag expansion but also has a captured nut to aid in the holding down of the top hull section...
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: colin-stevens on June 26, 2006, 08:33:02 PM
thanks for putting youre build on, keep it up. vewy bwave of you to order parts from over the noggin, been considering it myself for ages, but the lack of on the door back up has put me off. cant wait to see how this turns out. did the "working" bits come with the WTC, cant seem to get my head round his web site. also where did the hull come from, cant seem to find it over here.
thanks again and keep up the good work.
colin
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: DavieTait on June 26, 2006, 09:47:22 PM
Colin I bought my Seawolf ( same kit ) off Ebay , you can get some really good bargains if your carefull. Got mine for less than the list price ( including the postage ) and it was delivered 2 days later.

Davie
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: Mankster on June 26, 2006, 11:02:02 PM
Wow, you work fast Roy! Coming along nicely. Replace the Subtech seals with the nitrile orings as the subtech ones can leak under vacuum

These guys http://www.hannants.co.uk/ are a good source for SeaWolf's in the UK.
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: cbr900 on June 27, 2006, 12:58:11 PM
Colin,

It is a Trumpeter kit and I presume available in GB as this one actually came from here yes that is right, I bought it from mayhem forum, The WTC is from Dave Welch the motor is GWS park flyer and most of the other stuff any modeller or model shop would have...

Roy
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: Daryl on June 27, 2006, 01:03:42 PM
Nice model, did you mean the Trumpeter 1/144 scale as I can't find a 1/44?

Just curious
Daryl
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: cbr900 on June 27, 2006, 01:04:28 PM
Mankster,

Thanks for the tip I will do that as soon as I get a chance, there is enough that can go wrong without looking for trouble, as you can gather it seems to be going together very easily and so far everything has just fell into place, I will be back at it in the next couple of days as I have been to busy trying to finish of the Type XX! U-Boat at the same time..

Roy
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: cbr900 on June 27, 2006, 01:12:01 PM
My apologies Daryl I just scrolled up the thread and found the misleading infromation that some dummy typed in (I wonder who) and corrected it, so it now reads as you thought 1/144 not 1/44 God that would need four blokes to lift it and a very big bath to float it in,,

Roy
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: colin-stevens on June 27, 2006, 08:36:59 PM
that will teach me to beleive everything i read. thanks for the heads up. dont like e-bay, got stung twice. once by p-pal and once by the vender. will have another search through hannants, but i can never find what i am looking for on there site. found it easier to phone them then pop over.
will probably join the quue and hang out for the Revell Gato.
thanks every one
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: cbr900 on June 30, 2006, 07:13:49 AM
I have moved a little bit further on and painted the entire hull, applied the transfers and then sealed with a coat of semi-gloss clear, pics will follow shortly. Also if anyone else is going to build this type of boat, I have five pages of text on the build and a cd, which I will copy for anyone showing how to go about it, with it and the printed section you will not need anything else as it is pretty comprehensive,? all you have to do is ask..

Roy
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: Daryl on June 30, 2006, 11:24:49 AM
Hi Roy,
Love the build and it has fired my interest in r/c subs. I am interested in the build details you have.

Daryl
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: cbr900 on June 30, 2006, 12:00:22 PM
The paper work I can email to you but I will have to post the cd as I have found they don't seem to go through email very quickly.  You may have to send me some information for the cd>>

Roy
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: cbr900 on July 03, 2006, 07:03:42 AM
Daryl the text pages have been sent via email you should have them before you read this, the cd as stated in the email will follow by mail..


Roy
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: Daryl on July 03, 2006, 10:24:39 AM
Thanks Roy
Very kind of you thanks you very much.

Daryl
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: cbr900 on July 05, 2006, 06:24:03 AM
Daryl as promised the cd was mailed away to you today Wednesday, I don;t know how long it will take but I reckon you will not see it in under a week..

Roy
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: Daryl on July 05, 2006, 09:11:51 AM
Many thanks it is most appreciated.

Very best regards
Daryl
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: cbr900 on July 08, 2006, 11:33:02 AM
Well I am back in the land of the living, I have had a bad case of influenza the last week or so, anyway back to the building as promised the next two photos are of the hull completely finished painting stickers and all. The top has been painted black and the bottom has been done in a red, the stickers were the put in place and several coats of matt enamel spayed over the lot, seems to stop the stickers from being damaged, Photo 1 is the two halves and photo 2 is joined..


Roy

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Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: cbr900 on July 10, 2006, 08:49:50 AM
Now all that is left is to install the water tight compartment and fix it into the hull, and then it is out to the water to start the balancing program..


Roy
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: magpie on July 14, 2006, 02:39:01 AM
You've done well Roy. She looks great!!!
I'm currently building a Steve Neill Blueback and I've ordered one of Dave's WTC kits like yours. I like!
Jason ;D
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: Made it to 80 (25p Richer now) on July 16, 2006, 06:54:21 PM
I have been to papplewick today and Wolfie (Deans Marine ) was there with several Tumpeter kits couldn't resist getting the seawolf looks like I had better start getting some addresses for WTC and other bits
                                         ;D Bob B  ;D
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: DavieTait on July 16, 2006, 08:35:31 PM
Bob your not the only one lol , i've got the Trumpeter Seawolf kit so its not being left as a surface runner ( had another look at my Type IX and it would have to be surface runner only too small for a ballast system of any kind).

BTW how much does the WTC cost ??is it a kit or do you have to make the end caps , etc??

Davie
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: Daryl on July 16, 2006, 10:11:48 PM
Hi Davie,

This is the link for the guy who made the WTC  for Roy's excellent Trumpeter sub, http://www.frontiernet.net/~bwelch/

The prices are cheeper than over this side of the pond, but then again you have to add the various shipping charges. The Sub Committe has some excellent links to suppliers of r/c sub bits. The only one I know of in the UK is Pandan who sell the Subtech range. Metcalf has the old Darnell range and no doupt there are others.


Hope this helps

Daryl
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: Made it to 80 (25p Richer now) on July 16, 2006, 10:16:18 PM
Thanks for the info Daryl looks like I had better start saving ???
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: cbr900 on July 17, 2006, 08:35:26 AM
Well you will be pleased to know that I have tested the Seawolf and it seems to wotk great I will post some pics next time I go and I will have to remember to take the camera...


Roy
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: magpie on July 23, 2006, 01:11:29 AM
Well you will be pleased to know that I have tested the Seawolf and it seems to wotk great I will post some pics next time I go and I will have to remember to take the camera...


Roy
Yes please do. We want pics!!!!
Very nice mode mate!
Jason
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: Voyager on July 23, 2006, 12:13:20 PM
Yes...we need our fix for the day, bring on the pic's!
Title: Re: L A Class Seawolf Sub
Post by: dunkyg on February 28, 2007, 09:04:54 PM
im just new here CBR and im gradually getting through everyones posts. was delighted to come across ur sub tonight, a first class model by all acounts. its been a while since u last posted on this thread though, did she make it into/under the water? have u pics? would love to see some!