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Dry Dock / Shipyard: Builds & Questions => Yachts and Sail => Topic started by: piratelenn on March 31, 2008, 05:31:41 AM

Title: Sail pattern for tigertiger's revised version of the mary j ward
Post by: piratelenn on March 31, 2008, 05:31:41 AM
Tiger, I must give you props on your new AND IMPROVED version of the MJW.  I got the kit with like intentions and I would be deeply in your debt if you could school me on the topsails and their attachment to the masts and such...I am new to the forum and I must say your build had a large part in my joining.  I have so far enjoyed an hour and a half looking stuff up on the site and I've only scratched the surface.  Any other enthusiasts in Sacramento?

Anyhow Tiger, your help would be greatly appreciated!

Piratelenn.
Title: Re: Sail pattern for tigertiger's revised version of the mary j ward
Post by: tigertiger on May 01, 2008, 04:46:56 PM
Hi Piratelenn
Sorry I have only just seen this post. I was away on business that week.

Give me a wee while and i will get back to you.
Title: Re: Sail pattern for tigertiger's revised version of the mary j ward
Post by: tigertiger on May 04, 2008, 01:30:56 PM
Hi Piratelenn,
Here is the method I used.

The sail pattern itself was made to fit between the masts, and gaff booms. The position of the foot of the sail was guessed. I looked at many model schooners and video from the Gloucester races on Youtube. And a shipsim model of a schooner. There appears to be no definiitive style/pattern used for topsails.

Title: Re: Sail pattern for tigertiger's revised version of the mary j ward
Post by: tigertiger on May 04, 2008, 01:46:34 PM
Some photos and additional information.

Title: Re: Sail pattern for tigertiger's revised version of the mary j ward
Post by: admiral Onassis on July 27, 2008, 07:26:29 PM
Wow. just stumbled upon this.. its gonna be very helpful when I get to rigging.  I'm planning on only one topsail.. the Main.. I like the look of a boat with this plan I saw on youtube. "Dad's schooner"  These plans are far better than any reference I have stumbled upon.  If you have the time, a similar episode about the fo' sail would be an amazing help, as i have spent a couple hours squinting at the photos you already provided and drooling..
Title: Re: Sail pattern for tigertiger's revised version of the mary j ward
Post by: tigertiger on July 30, 2008, 12:59:25 PM
Hi Admiral

How I did the foresail is in the is in the main MJW Build thread on this board.
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2716.0
But I am about to change it slightly to have 3 forsails. but I will not be doing this until October.
Title: Re: Sail pattern for tigertiger's revised version of the mary j ward
Post by: dreadnought72 on July 30, 2008, 02:11:50 PM
Some photos and additional information.
Top marks for an extremely clear demonstration - the topsail looks the business.

Andy
Title: Re: Sail pattern for tigertiger's revised version of the mary j ward
Post by: admiral Onassis on July 31, 2008, 02:36:44 AM
Yep.  Saw it after I posted.  Very concise indeed.  Wish you hadn't mentioned the three foresails..
Title: Re: Sail pattern for tigertiger's revised version of the mary j ward
Post by: admiral Onassis on September 27, 2008, 07:12:52 PM
Hey there buddy.  I'm getting ready to rig my foresails, and wanted to see if you knew any good resources (besides yourself of course) with good pictures of how the sheets are arranged on schooners with three fore sails.  Here is a pic i grabbed off the web that i like.. I love the tall flying third fo' sails..
Title: Re: Sail pattern for tigertiger's revised version of the mary j ward
Post by: tigertiger on September 28, 2008, 01:51:56 AM
Hi Onassis

The only sources I found were to look at actual pictures as well.

There is a book An Introduction to Radio Controlled Scale Sailing Models by Phillip Vaughan Williams https://shop.traplet.com/product.aspx?c=297 available from traplet.
This will also give you an idea of how the flying headsails can be rigged/controlled.

The other scale sailing models book on traplet https://shop.traplet.com/product.aspx?c=293 is OK but not as good. It seems to be a translation of a German book. There is some overlap the Vaughan Williams book, but does have additional useful info.

Go on you tube and search for schooners and Gloucester races. You can find real schooners, a ShipSim computer generated schooner, and some models.

Sorry I cannot be of any more help.
Mark

PS Nice pictures you posted.
Title: Re: Sail pattern for tigertiger's revised version of the mary j ward
Post by: piratelenn on November 29, 2008, 07:25:41 PM
Wow!  Thanks for the info I have been busy with the buying of a new house and the renting of an old one.   I just saw your post today and I really need to get on that build.....the info and pics are a treasure trove of info!  Hope all is well with you and you are getiing a good bit of rudder time.

Fair Winds,

John