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john54

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Heirloom ?
« on: April 24, 2008, 03:14:22 pm »

Hi All
Just inherited this item (see pics) from my late aunt.
She worked for southern railways portsmouth/isle of wight ferrys paddle steamers ect from the mid 40s to 70s in bars /canteens.
Done some research found out by marks it was made 1905 -1930ish then came to a dead end :(
Anyway does anyone have any idea what purpose it might have served if any?
Thanks
John
P.S Not been let down on here yet hope this is not a first!
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Re: Heirloom ?
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2008, 03:51:21 pm »

How big is it John?
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john54

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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2008, 04:01:21 pm »

Hi its 5in dia @base 4in dia@ top (7in With handles) & 3.5 in tall.
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Roger in France

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Re: Heirloom ?
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2008, 04:25:57 pm »

My guess would be that it was made as a presentation cup and resembles a fairly contemporary "Loving Cup". The original loving cup was presented to a newly married couple who drank from it simultaneously as a symbol of their union.

You will realise from the markings that it is silver plated and has little value as silver.  It may have value to a collector interested in the ferry Co. history. However, that may be difficult to find out. Have you taken it to your local history section of a library or museum?

The shield with "E & Co" probably refers to Elkington who had a plating process named for them.

The "2P" may mean 2 pint size try measuring it with water.....or something better!

If you want to sell it take great care as most small jewellers or antique dealers have two values for everything 1. What they think they can get you to accept. 2. What they are fairly sure they can sell it on for! Ask advice at a reputable auction house but not at your local "old beds and wardrobes auctioneer".

Roger in France.
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Re: Heirloom ?
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2008, 04:32:45 pm »

Hi Roger,

With those dimensions I doubt it will make a pint.

John

Have you tried emailing Elkington, who are still in buisness, with a picture attached. They should be able to tell you what it is.
http://www.sheffield-cutlery.com/elkhist.html

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john54

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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2008, 04:40:30 pm »

Thanks for info just filled it with water (to early for anything else yardarm ect ;)) holds just over 1pint.
So the 2p mark is still a mystery it might be what its worth :(

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Roger in France

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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2008, 04:43:37 pm »

You are probably right about the size (after all I was only a Chief Inspector of Weights and Measures a long time ago and never did have an eye for dimensions).

Traditional "Loving Cups" were quite large and were probably passed hand to hand between all the guests at a wedding after the Bride and Groom had drunk from it. So, it needed to hold a good quantity of booze.

Roger in France.
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john54

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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2008, 05:07:54 pm »

It might have been a long service gift or maybe for newlyweds going to the island for there honeymoon ?
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Re: Heirloom ?
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2008, 07:43:50 pm »

http://www.silvercollection.it/Elkington.html Elkington Plate is OK for marks but 2P remains a mystery  ???

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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2008, 11:13:30 pm »

Hello John54,
Your "object" reminds me of a sugar bowl from the silver service in the officers or 1st class passengers saloon in the older established shipping companies.
Hang on to it they don't make em like that any more.
Cheers, Bob Ferguson
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banjo

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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2008, 11:37:36 pm »

 O0
Bob

I second that, my aged parent has a bowl of exact shape and dimensions, sadly in EPNS, which is part of a "liberated" tea service.
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Re: Heirloom ?
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2008, 11:45:59 pm »

Looks to me too like a bowl for sugar lumps - though maybe a tad on the large size for that? Nice bit of history though.
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john54

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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2008, 06:54:41 am »

Thanks Guys  O0
You did it yet again :)
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