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Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« on: November 15, 2006, 09:57:12 AM »

Hi Ian
Yes please fella my mate is currently build a drifter.
these things are like RN corvettes one hull and so many variations.
cheers
gary rowe
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2006, 11:59:22 AM »

And me -  always interested in seeing how other builders tackle the inevitable problems.

Rick
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2006, 02:16:05 PM »

Boatmadman
Were you a virgin before the drifter,i think your very brave as there are a lot of different skills to master in plank on frame.What with constant temperature at this stage in construction and tools to but as well as steam.
looking very good
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gary rowe
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2006, 03:35:18 PM »

Hi,
Gary, no not a p on f virgin! Have done 4 before, but even so, I think this is turning out to be the most difficult.
Temperature? my garage is constantly cold!

This is my first go at steam though!

Ian
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2006, 08:24:36 PM »

Ian,

The ST engine look interesting. Hand tool assembly? Degree of difficulty? Cost?

Rick

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2006, 10:16:22 PM »

Rick,
You can buy them as a kit to assemble I think, but I bought it as a set of castings and machined them. The casting set was 63 I think, but to be honest, by the time I bought all the tools I needed it was prob about 150.
I already had a small lathe etc. The machining was a little challenging, working out how to set up. It involved a little lateral thinking. For one operation I held the workpeice in the lathe chuck, and mounted a dremel flexi shaft in the cross slide clamp and used it as a mill. It worked!

Ian
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2006, 07:56:14 PM »

Nice hull, personally I hate building hullls, maybe I'm to impatient. I usually build from a grp hull, but i have to complement you on yours its really nice. The last hull I built took me 10 years on and off. It was a model of a Trawler/ longliner I used to own. She was built to 1/24 scale which gave model length of 24 inches.

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2006, 09:10:56 AM »

Hi all,

I use filehigh for pics, seems ok.

Ian

http://www.filehigh.com/
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2006, 08:47:27 PM »

I would like to acknowledge the information I am receiving without which this build would probably be impossible as there are no plans for this vessel.

My thanks to Glenn Mcintosh, who has a really good informative website at

http://glennmci.brinkster.net/mcibb/mcibb.html

I would also like to acknowledge the Buckie heritage museum in Buckie, (Scotland for you non brits), for supplying the one and only photo I have of BCK 209 Jeannie Mcintosh.

http://www.buckieheritage.org/

Ian

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2006, 09:26:52 PM »

Can anyone suggest materials to use to represent steel on a superstructure? Would plasticard look ok? And what is the best way to prep and finish?

Ian
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2006, 01:35:54 AM »

Ian,  I really think that a steel structure can be represented by a number of materials as it is all in the paint finish to bring it to life.

I have added a couple of shots of my Ben Ain model which uses ply for bulkheads.  The wheelhouse though uses white metal curved corners and  deck supports but, hopefully, you cannot tell the difference in materials when painted up.  At the end of the day after a good filler-primer and two or three coats of enamel rubbed down at some point in the process you should achieve a smooth enough finish to represent steel.  I added panel lines and rivets to mine to give it some credible surface detail.  The aft housing and hull are fibre glass but, given the same paint treatment, I am hoping that they will both look equally steel like.

Plasticard is possibly a bit easier to work and not susceptable to water but getting the paint to stick to it is a little bit more difficult but when finished you wouldn't be able to tell the differrence between wood or plastic.
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2006, 03:32:42 AM »

Hey bunker

you got more 'G' clamps than I got clothes pegs 8) ;D
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2006, 06:21:49 AM »

Bunker,

That looks v good to me, where did you get the white metal curves from, or did you cast them yourself?

Ian
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2006, 11:22:01 AM »

Bunker,

That looks v good to me, where did you get the white metal curves from, or did you cast them yourself?

Ian

The corners were included in the Mountfleet kit.  The trick is trying to stick them to the ply bulkheads with a bit of support which cannot be seen from the outside.  They do make a much neater job though than carving your own from stock which is how the corners were made on the forward bulkheads.  As you cannot see the insides there that works fine though but the wheelhouse would look a bit clumsy if it was built in the same way.
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2006, 10:42:17 PM »

Think it will be wood and perseverence then!

Nothing done for a few days, SWMBO pushed a 1:1 roller and bucket of emulsion in my sweaties and said go forth and paint before xmas.

Done now, so maybe a bit more between xmas and new year, help rid xmas hangover and prep for new year session!

so, a Merry Xmas and a happy New Year to all my readers!

Ian
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2007, 09:49:04 PM »

looking good, nice piece of wood work and nice DOG!!
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2007, 07:15:24 AM »

Superb 8)
This thread has been of great inspiration to a newbie, I now want to buiid a hull of my own.

BTW
How did you do the graphics?
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2007, 09:16:00 AM »

Hi,

Go for it! Any questions just ask away, pleased to help.

I bought the graphics from signature graphics, they advertise on the directory on this website, good stuff, good service.

Ian
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2007, 09:03:49 PM »

this is one fantastic build project, well done!, please keep the pictures coming, what part is leaking on the stuart engine?

billj
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2007, 01:56:36 PM »

Hi,                      WOW              nice build

Richard,
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2007, 02:02:36 PM »

Looking great 8)
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2007, 06:38:47 PM »

Thanks for that Davie, I have already found your site and 'trawled' through the pics.

Ian
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2007, 08:26:33 PM »

billj ... what engine is that by your name and any pictures you could put in the steam section. Peter
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2007, 08:29:46 PM »

Very very nice well done so far  ;D
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