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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #50 on: May 29, 2007, 09:35:25 pm »

Didnt know you were on with one, you should do a build thread for yours.

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #51 on: May 29, 2007, 09:43:43 pm »

Got a bare hull and a set of plans and now a steam capstan !! thats as far as that ones got so far. I'm going to restart my building soon once this weather settles down into warmer temps ( hellish having 2 squashed disks in ya back !! ). First up will be a 1/350th KGV Battleship then a 1/24th 1970's style Norweigan built seiner ( about 8 were built for Scotland in the early to mid 1970's ).
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #52 on: May 29, 2007, 10:47:49 pm »

You need to do a build thread of those!

You got any pics of your 1:1 boat?

Ian
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #53 on: May 29, 2007, 10:55:10 pm »

Here is a picture of my grandfathers old steam drifter ex Fraserburgh reg Hamnavoe but shows some detail that other photos dont that I posted on trawler photos hope it helps you
http://www.trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/data/516/medium/image221.jpg
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #54 on: May 29, 2007, 11:02:31 pm »

The pipe going up to the under floor of the wheelhouse is the steering chain Ian. Will's photo explains the run line of it better than I could
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #55 on: May 29, 2007, 11:23:42 pm »

Well the Silver Wave BF372 started out life as a seiner/drifter in the early 1950's
http://www.trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/data/516/Silver_Wave_BF372_Shetland_c_1960_s_.jpg
She was like this except for the "new" steel wheelhouse and the trawl gallows aft when I was aboard her in 1989
She was sold and had a second hand whaleback/gutting shelter/hydraulics/power block fitted and she fished for a few years before finally succumbing to the dreaded chainsaw of decommisioning
http://www.trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/data/2/medium/Silver_Wave_BF_372_at_Mallaig_c_1992_.jpg

My families boats were the Jeremiah BF705 ( Zulu type sailing drifter ) which was my Cullen relatives boat from the 1880's till the early 1900's

We then shift sides to my Fathers side for the Philorth FR726 ( again a Zulu type sailing drifter from 1880-1906 )

Then the Philorth FR211 of 1907


back to my Mothers side of the family to my Grandfather Davie Jacks boats
1948-1959 Avondee A826 Strath class steam trawler

1960-1969 Forward Pride A367 - 118ft middle water side trawler

then our last boat 1969-1988 David john A169 the last propper sidetrawler to fish from Scotland



Back to thread lol
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #56 on: May 30, 2007, 08:44:58 am »

Nices ones Dave
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #58 on: June 04, 2007, 10:29:59 pm »

http://www.trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/showgallery.php/ppuser/217/cat/500
Plenty of old drifter photos if you follow the link Davie has shown a fe already but here is the link to my gallery with bits and bobs if you go through it
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #59 on: June 04, 2007, 10:55:07 pm »

http://www.trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/data/505/medium/image10.jpg
Deck layout of a drifter forward of the wheelhouse ;) with the link
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #61 on: June 05, 2007, 08:11:22 am »

Great pics fellas, very helpful, thanks a lot.

Ian
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #62 on: June 05, 2007, 03:15:26 pm »

Davie,

Thinking about the graining effect on the superstructure, would there have been grained panels along the full length,? And would it have  followed around the curve onto the horizontal surfaces?

The rearmost part of the superstructure, would the grained effect carry right over the top?

Or, would the grained effect only be on vertical surfaces?

Puzzled!!!!

Ian
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #63 on: June 05, 2007, 03:55:17 pm »

Vertical panels only Ian the tops of the superstructure would have been painted dark brown as far as I can see
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #64 on: June 27, 2007, 10:03:14 pm »

Really lovely job. Admire the graining thats, hard enough 1:1 scale.
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #65 on: June 27, 2007, 10:07:09 pm »

Excellent graining Ian well done.

Right for deck lights , look at my photo of the Philorth FR211 and you'll see 2 large deck lights on top of the wheelhouse , they also had 2 or 3 lamps on a wire they could attach to the mast above the deck and 2 smaller down lamps on the mast 3/4 of the way up.

The lamps on the wire should be "helmet" style ie they should have a lip around them in the middle.

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #66 on: June 27, 2007, 10:46:01 pm »

Thanks Davie, a great help as usual.

Now, what lights would she display when running? port, starbd, mast head....any others?

Ian
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #67 on: June 27, 2007, 11:19:27 pm »

Port , Starboard , All round White on the mast head and the Stern Light , she would only have used a coloured fishing lamp when lying to her nets and when hauling them if you want i'll try and find out which colours and where they were
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #68 on: June 28, 2007, 12:02:15 am »

Thanks Davie, but maybe thats going to be a little difficult to incorporate. I only use 2 channel radio, but can do the running and standing lights with that.

Ian
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #69 on: July 05, 2007, 07:58:16 pm »

How did you achieve that wood grain effect?

Also, I have been experimenting on some test pieces to work out how to get a wood grained effect - I think its acceptable, Comments anyone?

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #70 on: July 05, 2007, 08:15:51 pm »

You can use a switch unit for the lights with a Y lead from the rudder and set it to work on full rudder with trim and use one that latch  . I have used an electronize but the action will prob work the same. 
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #71 on: July 05, 2007, 08:16:55 pm »

Ian before you go any further detailing the deck PM me your home address and i'll send you a couple of DVD's with films of the Steam Drifters and From Drift net to Purse Net which shows the boats working with all the deck details including colour film showing you have the colours spot on.

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #72 on: July 05, 2007, 08:38:40 pm »

Hi,

Martin, I used a butchered nit comb and a  sharpened rubber to get the grained effect.

Peter, I will be using an action switcher to switch between running and standing lights using the throttle lever.

Davie, thanks, pm with info sent.

Ian
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #73 on: July 05, 2007, 08:52:19 pm »

sorry Ian I mis read the "can" in your post after seeing the" only use 2 channel radio"

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #74 on: July 09, 2007, 10:55:45 pm »

At least you got the hoosie (wheelhouse) rebuilt and the blocks look good keep checking to se how you are getting on do you have plans for this model at all
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