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QE2 refit
« on: July 27, 2008, 10:21:33 PM »

hi all
I have just brought a second model kit of the QE2 at 1:450 . The kit represents her from her 1972 to 1977 refit. I want to convert this kit to shows as of today . Looking at photos i have found 3 main areas that require work. 1 the penthouse 2 the funnel 3 her rear decks. There are other area like her front crane etc. If any one has a set of up to date deck planes this would be very usefull or know were i can get hold of some.
If you have any ideas on how to modify her funnel all suggestions welcome.

her a photo of my current one almost finished and she is RC.

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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2008, 11:09:45 PM »

When she was re-engined the old funnel was reused by adding an additional piece to the middle and reusing the outside pieces.  I would recommend that you basically do the same with the model funnel.

You definately need a good reference book to follow through her history of changes of which there are many around at the moment.  Try the Carol Thatcher one or the Ronald Warwick one, both of which have some very usefull photo's.  Main areas, as you say are the aft deck, funnel and the penthouses but there are also changes to the original foc's'le crane arrangement, which went from two to a single crane, and the lifeboats were changed a couple of times since the model period.
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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2008, 11:17:46 AM »

Hi,
Just to get you started, heres a pic as of January this year.

Enjoy!

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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2008, 07:23:43 PM »

hi there and thanks for the reply. Well found a set of deck plans in the back of the cunard travel brochure .
It the funnel thats got stumped. Not sure how to go about it.

John
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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2008, 08:51:33 PM »

Nice model John!  O0 Which kit is it made from (Airfix?)

Simon
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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2008, 10:38:33 PM »

Nice model John!  O0 Which kit is it made from (Airfix?)

Simon

No its not the airfix one that 1:600 and shows hers when she was built 1967.
My kit is by gunze sangyo at 1:450 and shows her from 1972 throught to 1977

here a photo of her next to BIG sister and little sister
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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2008, 11:19:34 PM »

As I suggested the easiest way to make the funnel would be to do exactly the same that they did with the real one.  Use the two halves of the original funnel and add the stepped peice that you can clearly see in this picture.  This can be made easily out of plasticard, heated and bent over a suitable former.

I've also included a couople of shots of her new forward crane which may be usefull.

I actually have this very same model which I have been threatening to make now for over ten years!  One day.
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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2008, 12:06:42 AM »

John, here's another shot of the funnel from a different angle.
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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2008, 10:52:02 PM »

hi there and thank you peter and bunker barge for your photos.
Have a look at these 2 photos. Heres my thoughts.
1 on the red they cut horizontally  look from the back to the front
2 at the top of the red the increased the height at the front so it slops to the back.
3 as for the black bit i think they put in a new middle section to take the 9 exhaust pipes.
Since the red is taller and the black is wider it gives the illusion  that the funnel is not as tall as the original steam funnel.
any thoughts welcome.


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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2008, 04:30:23 AM »

I can assure you that the side plates from the old funnel were reused on the new one.  That is why the plating looks so warped in places, this was as a result of the flue fire she had when she was a steam ship. 

What is deceptive is the fact that the centre is considerably fatter to fit in the nine main engine exhausts as opposed to the three old boiler exhausts.  To accomodate this the section at the rear was added to space the side plates out.

Don't be misled by the slight inaccuracies of the model, but study old photo's as compared with new ones to see how it was done.
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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2008, 10:11:44 PM »

cheers bunker barge for thoes photos. I see what you mean now. They cut the old red funnel in half along the ship line then add a new rear section. Any hit gold on this web site see link tones of good photos.

john

http://travel.webshots.com/album/560353671ICAiWV?start=0
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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2008, 10:37:46 PM »

hi i think i have got this wright. The cut the old funnel in half a long the back line see arrow in qe2 s . They then move the 2 half futher apart and added a new section to the rear. In qe2 r+qe2 t1 the arrows show the back edge of the old steam funnel. If i am wrong can some one show me what went were

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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2008, 10:09:08 PM »

hi all here a photo of her engine room. At 6v the plastic props give a reasonable push.


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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2008, 02:50:46 AM »

John,

Have you completed your build?  I'd love to see both Queens on the water if you've got a pic.

Chuck
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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2008, 01:23:54 AM »

Hi there Chuck all most finished the first Queen, That the steam version . Just got electrics and a keel to go. On the second Queen I have not as yet started. Have found a site were theirs loads of photos of her . but what I am after is some drawings . plans . Have only found a set of has built plans but not has a Diesel ship. That funnel is 1 of the hard bits. I not sure how to tackle it yet ie were to cut the original plastic kit . Any ship yard is busy at the moment with Celestine so she will have to wait but it will happen. Hope fully in the fist 1/4 of 2009 i should have put the steam QE2 to sea.

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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2010, 10:49:33 PM »

As Wickstad is cumming soon I thought I must gt a boat finished. So sh still has a fair bit to do but did the first sea trials to day in the bath. She seams to go ok but will have to wait for more open water.

John
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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2010, 07:33:26 PM »

Well got her out on the lake to day. Just like the real ship she had problems on her first outing. Rudder throw, poor plastic props. and a doggy cheep chines reviver that I had to fix.

John
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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2010, 08:17:41 PM »

She looks very good on the water though and sits perfectly at the right line.  It would be interesting to know how stable she is though as this model is quite high so there will be quite a bit of weight high up.
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« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2010, 08:53:24 PM »

It is early days as all her internals are lose . I have removed all unnecessary plastic up top to remove top weight. In the bath she was quite stable.  Once all the bugs are sorted and every thing is fix in permanently in there place I will re check stability.

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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2010, 10:43:35 PM »

She looks marvellous John, well done  :-))

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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2010, 11:00:11 PM »

Hi all
Well the first sea trials highlighted some problems.
I have fixed the rudder
I have put on some new brass props. Only 5 blade shame i could not find any 6 blade at 15mm.
Put in new ESC and a LIPO battery.
 
On the second trials she sailed better . She is still a bit glitchy   but I will try to iron this out.

John
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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2010, 12:37:59 PM »

Well after some more sea trials the bugs have been iron out
The new ESC work great.
I have put a removable keel on her helps on windy days.

Just one or two bits to do on her and she is finished.

John
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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2010, 04:13:07 PM »

Your QE2 is a credit to you, it makes me want to try 'plastic magic'.

Tony.
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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2010, 06:21:18 PM »

Hi Tony
Thank you.
It has taken a bit of time to debug this model but I got there. You should try a plastic kit conversion. Remember bigger the better due to having a bigger displacement meaning you can get some weight in to the model.

John
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Re: QE2 refit
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2010, 06:24:39 PM »

To day I took the legend to her birth place. John Brown ship yard in Glasgow.

John
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