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BBC's "The BOX" - following a shipping container for a year
« on: October 07, 2008, 09:05:05 AM »

Anyone been following this?

The Box: Current location
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/629/629/7600053.stm

BBC News is following a container around world for a year to tell story of globalisation and world economy.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/business/2008/the_box/default.stm

Build your own container!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/16_09_08_bbc_box_d_hathaway.pdf

Where can I find information about loading containers on a ship?
Methods, equipment, rules etc. etc..... just coffee table info!
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Re: BBC's "The BOX" - following a shipping container for a year
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2008, 07:28:00 PM »

Martin...you are working FAR too hard, mate. Go lay down somewhere and take your medication....


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Re: BBC's "The BOX" - following a shipping container for a year
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2008, 07:39:13 PM »

Martin once the medication wears off,watch discovery channel,how do they do it,shows how stuffs shipped around.thats if you can get the channel
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Re: BBC's "The BOX" - following a shipping container for a year
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2008, 07:51:13 PM »

Martin I am siriously going to try to organize a few people to do this. How do you send a container? Is it possible to put a charging station inside the container and a little robot (maybe even an rc robot) that would go out of the container at night and stealthly explore the ship?

Is there any way to remotely control the robot when it's many miles far away?
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Re: BBC's "The BOX" - following a shipping container for a year
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2008, 12:45:55 AM »

Hi Martin , what info would you require regarding shipping containers .Over at Goole we have englands premier inland port which exports and imports a large quantity of containers ,i can lay my hands on info such as manifests plans for loading and discharging and pictures of the equipment used and of course the regular vessils that come to Goole with their cargo . I dont claim to know it all but i can always ask one of the cargo superintendants for you .
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Re: BBC's "The BOX" - following a shipping container for a year
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2008, 08:07:38 AM »


Thanks Daz... just ignore the 'hoi polloi' and assorted riff raff on this thread....!  {-)

I once spent the day At  Felixstowe docks and was fascinated by the lack of human involvement in moving
thousands of containers around. ( http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/Gallery/Felixstowe/Story.htm  )

1. Are the Container straddle carriers adjustable for the 3 different sizes?
2. What mechanism is used to "grab" the carrier? Pins? Clamps? Twist locks?
3. On the ship, how are the containers locked together?
4. What's the maximum number of loaded containers that can be stacked to top of each other?
5. I guess the containers all use an international  'bar code' system, what's it called?
6. Does the crane loader have a camera on the lifting frame to centre 'zero' in on the container?
7. Who, what decides the layout of the containers on a particular ship?

..... as I say, no particular reason, just interested.  :)


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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2008, 09:31:36 AM »

Do you want an amusing/sad story about containers?

One of my duties when working in the UK was the enforcement of Animal Health legislation which includes the controls on importation of animals. One day we received a report that animal like sounds were emerging from a recently unloaded container. The Animal Health Officers swung into action. The container was isolated in an enclosed area; the team donned protective gear; nets were rigged up over the door end of the container; men held catcher loops at the ready; a tranquiliser gun was to hand; the door on the container was slowly swung open; out crawled a pathetic, emaciated cat which had been in the container for about 2 weeks.

Once again England was safe from some foreign, rampaging beast which would carry unknown infection into our green and pleasent land!

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Re: BBC's "The BOX" - following a shipping container for a year
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2008, 08:02:49 PM »

Really, Martin...

'The' hoi polloi? Pleonasm? Tautology? Or what?

OK, OK. Just call me a pedantic old sod.
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Re: BBC's "The BOX" - following a shipping container for a year
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2008, 10:46:47 PM »

That dont sound too hard Martin ,i will be on the docks thurs night and there is a container ship due in so armed with camera i will see what pics i can get for you .
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Re: BBC's "The BOX" - following a shipping container for a year
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2008, 12:42:27 AM »

just posted a few pics on photobucket click on the link to see.
http://s168.photobucket.com/albums/u176/darran77/Goole%20docks/
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2008, 12:48:21 AM »

Excellent stuff! Thanks Daz.
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Re: BBC's "The BOX" - following a shipping container for a year
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2008, 02:03:41 AM »

And there's me thinking the BBC are wasting my licence fee.   :D

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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2008, 08:46:36 PM »

Beats me why the BBC are spending so much of our dosh when a simple phone call (to the right person) would provide the complete history of any container. Making a mountain out of a molehill. Anyway, what is so interesting about a container? A much more interesting project would be to look at the much more difficult diversity of the genuine cargo-passenger liners of the 1960s and 70s with the cargo separation of "break-bulk" and so on. This exercise by the BBC is just a dumb platitude. BY.
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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2008, 09:00:59 PM »

Hi Brian

The Beeb is probably funded like the NHS.  They have to spend it this year or they don't get it next year.

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Re: BBC's "The BOX" - following a shipping container for a year
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2008, 09:10:07 PM »

Call me an anorak if you like but i think containers like many other things are interesting , :D .
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Re: BBC's "The BOX" - following a shipping container for a year
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2008, 10:02:22 PM »

Beats me why the BBC are spending so much of our dosh when a simple phone call (to the right person) would provide the complete history of any container. Making a mountain out of a molehill. Anyway, what is so interesting about a container? A much more interesting project would be to look at the much more difficult diversity of the genuine cargo-passenger liners of the 1960s and 70s with the cargo separation of "break-bulk" and so on. This exercise by the BBC is just a dumb platitude. BY.

Do you not think showing how far the container has travelled from its original port the waste that is involved. The consumer market wants cheaper goods no matter to the quality. Showing the travels of the container in pictures instead of someone tell you where it has travelled from shows exactly the problems we have created.

I think some have missed the point to this program by the commects made.
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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2008, 10:32:34 PM »

Martin, the attached photos may not answer all your questions, but you may find them interesting. They are a selection of those I took while on our QE2 trip, and some show the manner of restraining the containers, while others show the huge numbers of containers in some of the ports we visited. I posted the shot of the damaged containers in Los Angeles some time ago, but I think it warrants repeating, if only to wonder again how the damage occurred. If you look closely at the first photo, you can see more damaged containers near the base of the crane.

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« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2008, 10:45:45 PM »

Really, Martin...

'The' hoi polloi? Pleonasm? Tautology? Or what?

OK, OK. Just call me a pedantic old sod.

Pleonasm IMHO
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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2008, 07:16:44 PM »

Call me an anorak if you like but i think containers like many other things are interesting , :D .
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Re: BBC's "The BOX" - following a shipping container for a year
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2008, 12:23:16 AM »

I think looking after them is starting to get to me  :D they are every where ,
more pills please  %% .
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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2008, 11:26:05 AM »

wander what the bbc would say if the ship sank or the box got lost off the edge?
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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2008, 05:13:37 PM »

I have seen a few boxes lost either fron ships or quays , one was lost off the east coast ,well there was a few ,but this one washed up just down the coast from Bridlington  full of Royal cigarettes ,every man woman and child was selling cheap cigs after then  :} .the other containers contained whisky (allegedly) and rebok trainers , the whisky box was never salvaged well if it was the customs didn't find it .
There was an incident at goole a few years ago when an empty 40 foot box was blown off a quay stack into the dock , it was recovered by anothe company on the other side of the quay, ha  "Oy mate is this one of yours "  {-)   {-)  {-)  {-)  {-)  :embarrassed:.
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2008, 08:12:14 PM »

Call me an anorak if you like but i think containers like many other things are interesting , :D .
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How can you find a box "interesting"?  Jeez.
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« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2008, 12:56:41 AM »

To each his own, Bryan. One man's meat is another man's poison........beauty is in the eye of the beholder........there must be some other cliches I've missed.  :-)Leave poor Daz alone, he may not be feeling well; if he has a cup of tea and a good lie down, he may get over it.  ;)

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« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2008, 03:03:28 PM »

Thank you Peter , what you have to understand BY is that these boxes travel all around the world through a system that recognises them from their seriel number and the owners of them can track every movement ,either by road or water .There were some containers (swapboddies ) at goole that would probably never see these shores again as they were destined to travel between the Bahamas and usa , these units would make great workshops as they are fully insulated and the floors are solid wood and pollished smooth  mmm nice  :D .
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