Topic: Christiaan Brunings+Regner Kompakt (Read 20369 times)

Ilcapitano · « **on:** February 22, 2009, 08:41:45 pm »

Good day,

I'll continue here the simple build log of my first steam project. Here are the previous posts about this with some pics: http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=14917.0

Christiaan will get brass propeller with diameter of 65mm, 4 blades and 4 mm shaft. The kit had 3 bladed and slightly smaller in diameter made from white metal.

I'm not going to make engine mount, nor propsaft mount my self. I have a friend who has tools and experience to make these in such a great quality that I'm always tempted to use his services instead of making these parts my self. I know that I should make it my self but I'm always finding good excuses not to.

So Regner and hull is at the moment at my friends workshop. After I'll get it back I'll post pics with this projekt first time on the water.

brgds
Ilcapitano

Ilcapitano · « **Reply #1 on:** February 24, 2009, 11:06:58 pm »

Hi,

Engine and rudder mounted. Test run succesful. Maybe during weekend I'll put her on water.

Ilcapitano · « **Reply #2 on:** February 24, 2009, 11:08:09 pm »

More pics.

logoman · « **Reply #3 on:** February 24, 2009, 11:24:18 pm »

very tidy! thanks for the pictures.

Proteus · « **Reply #4 on:** February 25, 2009, 04:42:34 am »

You will prob find with that type of regulator that it will turn through 360 deg if so you can just move it 90deg from where it is and it will work there , no need for extension. they have four holes in the colum and two semi circles on the operating disc so moving it around is no problem.

Proteus

Bunkerbarge · « **Reply #5 on:** February 25, 2009, 08:11:33 am »

Very tidy set up there with a neatly put together plant and shaft.

Just one word of caution, if you haven't already done so I would file a flat on the rudder stock for the cap head screw to land on. There is a lot more chance of it slipping if you don't take this precaution.

derekwarner · « **Reply #6 on:** February 25, 2009, 08:39:55 am »

Hi Ilcapitano ...as you say

I'm not going to make engine mount, nor propsaft mount my self. I have a friend who has tools and experience to make these in such a great quality that I'm always tempted to use his services instead of making these parts my self. I know that I should make it my self but I'm always finding good excuses not to

We all learn from watching other builders complete their tasks & we learn from watching.......

...& then one day completing the same task our selves.....Derek

Ilcapitano · « **Reply #7 on:** February 25, 2009, 10:35:01 am »

Hi,

Thanks to you all for very usefull advise!!
I'll pass the compliments to responsible person.

Have you got advice how to attach the mahogany to boiler? With bands and glue? If glue is used, what glue can take the heat?

And derekwarner_decoy: you are absolutely right! I'm learning with the best, including you guys!

brgds
Ilcapitano

Bunkerbarge · « **Reply #8 on:** February 25, 2009, 12:16:50 pm »

I would suggest that the planks are simply placed on with spots of cyano at either end. I would ensure though that the first time you flash it up to have plenty of ventilation as the fumes may be excessive. You could also use spots of PVA or any other glue because the glue is only going to hold it in place while you put all the planks on before using brass bands to actually hold it all together.

You could also persevere with putting one band on loosely and then threading the planks into it but you will find this a lot trickier than holding the planks on temporarily with glue. Don't worry about the glue resisting the heat because when the brass bands are on the glue isn't actually doing anything any more.

Proteus · « **Reply #9 on:** February 25, 2009, 01:07:07 pm »

you can also use the thin cellotape type double sided tape, the narrow stuff thats about 6mm , again as Bunkerbarge has stated its just to hold it until the bands are put on.

Proteus

steamboatmodel · « **Reply #10 on:** February 25, 2009, 02:25:52 pm »

If you can it would help if you wrapped the boiler in the ceramic matting then planked it.
Regards,
Gerald

kno3 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 25, 2009, 04:37:24 pm »

Quote from: Ilcapitano on February 25, 2009, 10:35:01 am

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Have you got advice how to attach the mahogany to boiler? With bands and glue? If glue is used, what glue can take the heat?
...

brgds
Ilcapitano

I have attached the wood strips only with metal bands to 2 boilers and they are holding fine. I wouldn't use any glues as they will scorch and make a mess, stain the boiler etc.
However it is easier to work with the wooden strips if you use 2-3 rubber band to temporarily hold them to the boiler, then after you have all strips in place lock them down with the metal bands.

Proteus · « **Reply #12 on:** February 25, 2009, 08:02:32 pm »

Quote from: kno3 on February 25, 2009, 04:37:24 pm

Quote from: Ilcapitano on February 25, 2009, 10:35:01 am

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Have you got advice how to attach the mahogany to boiler? With bands and glue? If glue is used, what glue can take the heat?
...

brgds
Ilcapitano

I have attached the wood strips only with metal bands to 2 boilers and they are holding fine. I wouldn't use any glues as they will scorch and make a mess, stain the boiler etc.
However it is easier to work with the wooden strips if you use 2-3 rubber band to temporarily hold them to the boiler, then after you have all strips in place lock them down with the metal bands.

and you have seen this happen , boilers staining due to a few spots of glue ???take it from someone who has been doing steam a long time it wont stain, it is also the recommended way Cheddar did all there boilers, but what did they know.

Proteus

kno3 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 27, 2009, 08:59:07 am »

Depends on what glue you are using, and if you care about the aspect of the boiler below the wooden cladding.
Since I have spent quite some time polishing my boiler, I chose not to use anything that sticks to it or stains it. But this might not be important to everyone.

Ilcapitano · « **Reply #14 on:** February 27, 2009, 05:39:09 pm »

Many thanks to all! No I have plenty of methods to choose from!

-Ilcapitano

Ilcapitano · « **Reply #15 on:** March 03, 2009, 07:58:57 pm »

Hello,

Still not yet had change to get her on the water.

I have finished the main deck frames on which the deck is resting (see pictures). Also heat insulation is in place on the hull and under main deck (1st picuture).
Superstructures and main deck mahogany is next under work and balancing the boat to waterline with led around the bilge.
I bought some round windows to hull from aero-naut. Window glass already fitted in frames. Great quality.

I though that I'll put one set of batteries for Navigation lights and other possible gadgets, and another for receiver/servos.

jollyroger · « **Reply #16 on:** March 05, 2009, 09:42:12 am »

Moi
Toi on ihan v***n hieno ! Sehän on jo melkein valmis.. Teippaat vaan kannen kinni ja tarrat kylkiin niin sit vaan kesää oottamaan

ronkh · « **Reply #17 on:** March 05, 2009, 10:24:03 am »

Quote from: jollyroger on March 05, 2009, 09:42:12 am

Moi
Toi on ihan v***n hieno ! Sehän on jo melkein valmis.. Teippaat vaan kannen kinni ja tarrat kylkiin niin sit vaan kesää oottamaan

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Ilcapitano · « **Reply #18 on:** March 05, 2009, 11:08:55 am »

Hi,

jollyroger is writing in Finnish. free translation: that's really great, nearly done, just mount main deck and waiting for the summer.

Ilcapitano · « **Reply #19 on:** March 06, 2009, 07:20:09 pm »

Hi,

First time on the water. Here some video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-DXj210mxw
and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3mhkz8lcHE

And pics. Everything vent well. Engine run as usual. I put some two kg of lead to get her balanced.
Next phases will be mahogany planks to main deck, painting the hull, building skylets, mounting windows to hull and superstucture etc. etc...

BR,

IlCapitano

derekwarner · « **Reply #20 on:** March 06, 2009, 09:47:58 pm »

IlCapitano......

her manoeuvrability seems great

Derek

Ilcapitano · « **Reply #21 on:** March 06, 2009, 10:14:38 pm »

Thanks, thats right!

I was surprised to see her maneuver that well. During filming I had to adjust the servos. Propably one can hear beep from my radio...
I did not have more than 2,3bars on the boiler so there is more in reserve.
all in all there were no setbacks at all during seatrials.

Yet there is still ALOT to do to complete this model.

have a nice weekend!

Ilcapitano · « **Reply #22 on:** March 13, 2009, 05:28:56 am »

Hi,

Some pics before and after painting.
I'll varnish it with ackryl mat to get the shine of a little. Now it looks too "plastic".

brgds
Ilcapitano

Ilcapitano · « **Reply #23 on:** March 17, 2009, 10:31:38 am »

Hi,

Boiler has been lagged.
Is it recommended to coat lagging with something? (Varnish, oil...??)

Bunkerbarge · « **Reply #24 on:** March 17, 2009, 05:05:53 pm »

You need to protect the wood from staining by water and oil as well as preventing it drying out and warping with the heat. I would put a couple of coats of Polyeurethane varnish on it. I would also do the planks individually and ensure that both sides are done so I would varnish the planks before fitting them.

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