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Tugboats from Rudder
« on: April 06, 2009, 05:47:09 PM »

Hello

Years back I bought book  Designs to inspire in wich are lots of various designs from Rudder magazine.
They all fascinates me each in its own way , but the most I like these two little tugboats.
I tryed Google them for photos but I guess that I am looking in wrong direction.
So I am looking for any information that could help me find anything useful.
Thanks in advance
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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2009, 06:08:53 PM »

And same drawing with litlle better resolution



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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2009, 06:24:38 PM »

Hi there,

I have recently started a model of the Craig, from the Model Boats magazine plan. She was designed by J.Murray Watts and built by Craig Brothers Marine Railway Company of Norfolk, Virginia around 1924. My information tells me that she was built as a diesel tug, powered by a three cylinder Fairbanks-Morse, 150 horsepower engine. I am running a build thread which you can see here should you wish to.

If you do find out anything else about the tug, I would be grateful for any information you can pass on. I will do likewise..

Barry
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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2009, 06:27:28 PM »

So where is this build thread Barry ?
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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2009, 07:56:21 PM »

Barry

I don't suppose your book has any details on the steam Tugs Mon or Yaw Built by Hawthorn Leslie for the Burmah Oil company around the turn of the 19-20th century. I'm really interested in any line drawings that might exist. I've tried all the usual sources including the BP archive but with no luck.

Thanks

Doug
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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2009, 08:13:47 PM »

Hallo

I only found this thread from another forum. Is that the same plan you mentioned?:
http://www.modelboats.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=1776
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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2009, 08:31:59 PM »

Sorry Richard, I forgot to include it. It is here:

http://modeltugforum.com/index.php?topic=1415.0

It is also as sjoorman has found on the Model Boats Forum too and yes that is the same plan..

Barry
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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2009, 10:27:45 PM »

See if pictures of the Henrietta Foss are close enough to be of any use.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=998176

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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2009, 08:00:19 AM »

Barry

I don't suppose your book has any details on the steam Tugs Mon or Yaw Built by Hawthorn Leslie for the Burmah Oil company around the turn of the 19-20th century. I'm really interested in any line drawings that might exist. I've tried all the usual sources including the BP archive but with no luck.

Thanks

Doug

Doug,

Sorry but I don't have a book with them in, so can't help you on that one. <:( <:(
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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2009, 02:13:28 PM »

Thanks for help everyone, nice photos. :-) Few questions come to my mind because I really don't know much about tugboats.
What were their hulls made of -wood or iron (steel). I see on photos that both were used.
And question about Craig what is building plan like- I only have drawings I posted earlier and where could I obtain them?
 For hull itself I would imagine that these drawings are good enough but I don't know what deck and top of wheelhouse are like.
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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2009, 04:01:26 PM »

The plans are very good indeed and very reasonably priced. I have had no trouble at all following them, and if I can do it then anyone can!!

You can get them from here:

http://www.myhobbystore.com/

Barry
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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2009, 04:55:59 PM »

Thanks for information, I just contacted them :-))
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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2009, 08:54:25 PM »

While searching I noticed few links although they are not directly related to this thread:
lots of photos on this link
http://www.navsource.org/archives/14/10idx.htm
few informations
http://www.tugfest.net/archives/2005/10.html

story about New York Central Tugboat No. 13
http://www.marielorenz.com/inprogress/?p=579

 and another sad end
http://citynoise.org/article/9031

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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2009, 08:58:19 PM »

Barry

I don't suppose your book has any details on the steam Tugs Mon or Yaw Built by Hawthorn Leslie for the Burmah Oil company around the turn of the 19-20th century. I'm really interested in any line drawings that might exist. I've tried all the usual sources including the BP archive but with no luck.

Thanks

Doug

Doug,

Sorry but I don't have a book with them in, so can't help you on that one. <:( <:(


Sorry Barry I misread the posts. The query should have been directed at Sjoormen.

Doug

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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2009, 02:54:51 PM »

Sorry in this booklet there are only the two tugboats .
It is nice book though and there quite few interesting designs in it most are sailboats and few launches, runabouts and other crafts, but as I said only two tugs. Btw anyone knows where to find plans for New York Central Tugboat as in this link:
http://www.marielorenz.com/inprogress/?p=579
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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2009, 07:36:01 PM »

Don't know of a plan but Midwest models do a kit of a similar boat

http://www.midwestproducts.com/item_detail.asp?item_id=102

HTH

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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2009, 07:58:21 PM »

Thank you, it looks like nice build. I will try to contact them as well. I am looking something nice to build and these old tugs looks just right.
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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2009, 08:16:00 AM »

I found more informations on this link (I think that is the same tug as on my first post):
http://modelplans.steamboats.org/p16-van-pelt.html
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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2009, 04:40:34 PM »

After few weeks work  my little tug is starting to look ,.. well like little tug:



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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2009, 07:15:41 PM »

I also have few questions I forgot to mention about these tugboats if someone could help me with.
Hulls of these boats -were they wooden or iron? Were rudders iron?
I also don't know how to make ring round chimney(exhaust don't know correct term)at the base -it is oval like.
And another thing that I must think of is propulsion- i was thinking speed 900 motor and 60 or 65 mm propeller (graupner) boat is about 83 cm long.
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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2009, 09:58:33 AM »

Some progress until now. It is far from perfect, especially compared with Craig from Mr. Footski. But I need this boat for rescue missions ;) and not for static display, so... Still lots of details to do:







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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2009, 11:38:50 AM »

Sjoorman,

Thanks for the compliment, but yours looks good to me. That reminds me, I must start a build log of Craig sometime...
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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2009, 02:16:20 PM »

Thanks. I wish your build would be done by now, so I could get some new ideas. Today I made this slipway. I got no photos for this so I made it from my imagination.As I said it is my first build like this,so I hope you like it.








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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2009, 02:36:46 PM »

That is unusual, but could look great with a bit of TLC. Light sanding, wood stain and varnish. This is the one I have built for Craig. Not quite finished but almost..
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Re: Tugboats from Rudder
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2009, 03:21:00 PM »

Yes, I like yours very much , but I don't know if it is strong enough to carry boat in the car? BTW what is  TLC? Oh another question: does anybody have photo of winch of these tugboats. It looks from plans that it was man driven -is that true? Please correct me.I found this photo in the internet-does anyone know builder?
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