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[tweety777]

Hello guys,

Here is my first scratch-build project, which still isn't completed.
I've now planned to convered her to a escortvessel like the Flower-class.
When finished it really won't look like a Flower at all, but those ships will be used for chosing armament.

Here the first pics of the conversion:

The 700 Torque engine is being put back in Josse I, and this photo also shows the current status of the model.

Foc'sle under construction. The main gun will be standing in front of the mast on the foc'sle-deck.

Gun as far as completed now dry-fitted on a not to be used deck.

And this was the last picture.

Greetings Josse

[tweety777]

Next update.


More work on the bow.



Lights being placed.





Lights on.
The light on the right is the stern-light, but it needs to get a difuser.

Lights for when towing one vessel.

Lights for when towing 2 or more vessels.

LED's for the interior or pretty bright.

That's it for now.

Greetings Josse

[tweety777]

Here is a small update.

Been doing some research on the guns, and these are the guns that will used:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL_4_inch_naval_gun_Mk_VII
This will be the maingun which will be placed in a protected turret.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1.1%22/75_(28mm)_gun
These will be the AA-guns in single-barrel "turrets".
These are the barrels i will use:

The barrel in the rear was planned to be used for the maingun, but that turned out to be a 225mm gun, so that one won't be used.
The front barrels (4 of them) are the AA-guns, and the only remaining barrel is for the maingun.

Here a update:

Maingun under construction.

Interior under construction while i can still get there.
The deck above it will be removeable.

Here the front end of the interior is being build.
Before this wall will come a massive block of wood.

And this is what it looks like from the shore.

Greetings Josse

[tweety777]

Yet another update:

Turret under construction.

More work on the interior.

Because of the turret coming on the same deck, but further forward of the bridge there will be about no view on the water from there, so there will come a command-bridge ontop of the current, so that's why the captain is standing ontop of the bridge.

More work on the cabins.

Some more things to protect the towing-line.

Lifeboat under construction.

And yet another launch.
Here are 2 movies off the launch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABru67hZRq4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ymZNSLKuB4

Greetings Josse

[cling-on-bop]

I would have thought the hull looked more like a castle class corvette than a flower, say for the rear. 

[tweety777]

Hi Cling-on-bob,

Only the armament was meant to be like the Flowers, not the hull, sorry for not being very clear about that.
The hull is a bit different from the hull of Zwarte Zee III, which i wanted to build originaly.
She will remain being a tugboat but with the necessary armament for defence against U-boats, aircraft and surface ships.

Greetings Josse

[cling-on-bop]

Sorry, I thought it was a corvette you were converting it to, are you going to use it with the lego crew? 

Looks like it's from tialand, with the chinese crew, just watch out for the pirates. 

[tweety777]

Hi Cling-on-bob,

The crew will be militairy figures, but i will need to buy them, but that will have to wait.

During WWII Great Britain and China were fighting side by side against the Japanese, so i don't need to worry all to much

Groetjes Josse

[tweety777]

One more updat for today:

More work on the lifeboat.

Somewhere during the work today.

Dryfit of the gun on the foc'sle deck.

Closer view at the gun.

Greetings Josse

[tweety777]

More work on armament.
What weapon can give a small ship a huge firepower?
The only weapon that can is used to sink half a merchant fleet, a whole lot of warships, including even battleships and carriers.
That weapon is the: Torpedo!
That weapon will also be added to the armament of this model.
The torpedo that will be used is the US Mark 15.
Here is the first launchtube under construction:

Here in 2 parts.

And here as one piece.

There will be 2 double launchers, one port and one starboard, which means the lifeboat will be replaced by 2 smaller ones, which are to be placed a bit further forward, and will be build as low as possible to remain out of the fire-arcs of the rear AA-guns.

And here a view from above.

Greetings Josse

[tweety777]

Made the first seatrial since more then half a year, and made pics and a movie of it:

Less then a second before going to full throttle.

And while gaining speed.

Here's the movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFgpiE3Ema4


The torp-launcher further under construction.

Hoisted the colours the right way.

Greetings Josse

[tweety777]

Some more progress:

Maingun is being closed a bit more.

Gun itself has been mounted.

The least Christian croses there are (and i'm a Christian myself  ), these are the barrels of the AA-guns.

Front mast has been mounted a lot better so i can at least temporarly take away the front-rope to keep it in place.
That rope was keeping the gun from turning from left to right.

Started building supports for the upper-bridgedeck.

To be able to turn the torp-launchers i've made 2 holes to put a shaft through.

The first torp-launcher has got it's shaft mounted.

Plate for the shaft on the second torp-launcher has been placed.

The best thing for building the torps.
Don't yet know if i will make an actually firing torp-launcher, but i at least want to be able to manually load the torps.

Greetings Josse

[tweety777]

More pics!!!

Possible position of the AA-guns.

Removed the mast to get a better place for the gun, mast will get an other place, as it's needed for the lights.

Added a bar, stairs and workbench (in the winch-room).

Above the stair will come a hatch to keep the water out.

Started making a support for the upper-bridgedeck.

Who said something about a tugboat? From this angle she looks much more like a warship ready to fire her torps.

Helmsman appears to be prepared to ram an other when needed.

Then the night fell, so the lights went on.

Night? We just take an artificial sun with us!

Using the wrong lights to make the enemy think they see a tugboat.

These lights need to be hided a lot more, otherwise this will be a very easy target.

The green lights are to light up the radio-room.

View from the open nose of a bomber.

Greetings Josse

[tweety777]

Started with the more serious work:

The "foundation" for proper work is off course the tools, these are a few of my tools which i've using for the latest progress.

Made my first piece of detailed woodwork (is there a better name for it? It's also used for the sculpture at the bow of the old sailing vessels), and i'm pretty happy with it.

The captain was complaining, 'cause there is a very big risc of falling overboard, so there is being worked on that too now.

The crew wanted to sleep on something better then just the steel (or wood) of the floor, so i've been making the first bed.(Is that correct English?)

Something to sleep under, very nice, otherwise it will get such cold at night.

Stair about to be used.

Wiring is being hiden a lot better, looked like a mess before that.

Greetings Josse

[ronkh]

Wiring is being hiden a lot better, looked like a mess before that.

No kidding!

[tweety777]

Hi Dan,

That is excactly the reason why i'm posting buildgogs on forums, i want to learn to build proper models.
This one is my first scratchbuild model, and when i started building her she was by far my best build model, but then came Well Enhancer, and she looks far better as well too.
Modelbuilding is allready hard enough to do when you know how to do it right, let alone if you need to find out how to do it right all by yourself.
It would be very nice if you would give me some tips for how i can do things like it should be done.

Greetings Josse

[nhp651]

In that case,Josse, will you listen to what is said and put to you.

First of all, you state that( on another build log of yours) you are a student of model boat building if my memory serves me correctly.

Is this a student from college or a self taught student?
If from college..ask for help, in building and finishing techniques for a start.
forget the electronics until you have mastered the technique of basic building and finishing a model to a decent standard.

If there is a model club near your home, go to it and ask how those members finish their models.

Concentrate on one model at a time, not 2, 3 or even 4 as you are building.

Start small so that the project doesn't overwhelm you, as they seam to be doing at the moment, and above all TAKE YOUR TIME, and don't rush a job just so that you can "please" others by constantly blogging........no one is really and honestly interested in quantity, but they are in quality.

I hope you take this as constructive critisism, and not just a dig at your skills.

I used to teach model boat building at "night" school and as you seem to be wanting to do, so  some of my students wanted to go home with a finished model after the first night.

It just isn't possible, and you will get a greater amount of pleasure from your modelling, if you SLOW DOWN and take care and time over a build.
all the best and take care, but above all, take some pride in your workmanship.

neil.

[warspite]

  Auuuuu !!! do be so cruel to the lad, he's trying his best, we all had to learn some time, reminds me of some of the building sites i have been on, before hSE started to get involved, you never know you might be praising the lad on the finished item later  

then again you have seen what mine are like 

[nhp651]

I hope so, Warspite, and I have tried to be as constrctive as possible.

I don't think I was outspokenl, but tried to point out how he could improve..........don't think that is being cruel....just honest.
mind you , you know what they say.......some times you "have to be cruel to be kind"

[cos918]

Hi there Josse
You say you want to learn, we all do and we all never stop learning till the day we die. Most people start some and continual improve there skills.
Look at people build logs and see how they go round problems. If you do not under stand why they did that ask. Don't be afraid to try new ideas. Try diffrent materials on test peaces so you cant get to grips with the material and see how it performs. Some people love wood other love plastic card ,my self I like plastic card put i would never say one is better than the other its a personal choice. Be open to new ideas.
Plan your builds so you have a logical order in which to build and paint. I would only concentrate  on one model at one time ,my self I am think of my next build and problem areas on her but I will NOT get the hull until my current boat is finished. You only have one pair of hands.
model making is a passion and a skill that a life time to master.
If I was you I would put your latest  boats on the shelf and get well enhancer finished, learn from her and take the skills you have gained and put that to good use on your next boat

Just remember those people that make models you see in museums had to start some were


John

[Ghost in the shell]

normally I would sometimes disagree with bunkie, BUT WE ALL HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE

First time out, we may not get it right, but it is only by trying out new methods do we find out what works, and what doesn't.  hey I think i can learn something from josse's wiring, Nord Icelandia is like a rats nest.  more spaghetti than clean connections

[oldiron]

Josse:

 What would you like to see/hear from us in the way the way of help. Would you like us to offer constructive comments on your build as a means of helping you, or would you prefer to ask us questions on a particular part of you build(s)? We could offer various solutions or suggestions to your question.

John

[tweety777]

Hello guys,

Thanks for the response!

I would like to have as many kinds of help there are, as they will all be useful to improve my skills.

The reason why i'm building these kind of difficult models is that i can use them to pull my skills up fast.
Besides that, i like having challenges, and most of all to find a solution for them.

I'm working on Josse I now because she's my first scratchbuild model, so she should had been finished before i started building Well Enhancer.
The advantage of building several models at a time is that you can build on something you like to build at every time, as long as all the models are in different stages of the build.

you are a student of model boat building if my memory serves me correctly

No, i'm doing a shipbuilding study, for building the real ships, not the models.
The study does help to be able to build my models more realistic as i learn there very much different things that are aboard a ship.

Greetings Josse

[kiwi]

Hi Josse,
You have come to the right forum for help to improve your skills.
The guys and girls on here have so much experience, and each has their own forte, or areas of expertise. I myself came back to ship modelling after a twenty year lapse into other things. I had thought myself an above average modeller, until I joined this and another forum. I've learn't so much from these people, and admire their sharing and friendly attitudes.
Listen to them, stick at model ship building, and you will one day become one of those who can hold their head up with the best.
I was one of the lucky ones who started when I was 7, and had a father who could pass on the skills needed on a one to one basis.
My one piece of advice would be to slow down a little, relax, be patient, (ok, I know thats 3 things) and you WILL notice marked improvements in all you do.
cheers
Kiwi
ps
He who never asked, never learned.

[tweety777]

Hi Kiwi,

You indeed are lucky that you were able to start together with your daddy when you were 7.

I've started building kit's when i was 12, but the LEGO was more fun by then as that had the ability to make things working the easy way.
Since i started building a RC model of the Banckert (billing boats) modelbuilding started to get to my most important hobbies.
Right now it's my number 2 hobby, close behind praising God with music, which also helps me to remain relaxed and easy enough to build the really tiny parts.
I think that most of the people here have more years of expierence in in modelbuilding then i live on this planet, 'cause i'm only 19 years old.
I needed to find out all the things myself, and that's why i joined a club pretty soon after making the decision to start building RC models.
In my opinion my skills are improving pretty well, but still help is really very welcom, and i like to try as much different ways as there are.
In my opinion i'm not building really fast, i make something, glue it in place, and then i start making the next part.
That makes it look like i build very fast, but every part gets the needed attention (majorly the accuracy needs to be improved so that things will look much better), but when the glue is drying it's not quite needed to keep staring to that part, so then i pass on to the next one, while i remain checking ones every few minutes if all is still in the right place.

Greetings Josse