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union jack
« on: June 09, 2009, 07:50:13 pm »

the sun newspaper has stated that the police have been stopped from wearing a small union flag badge  could upset some ???? any body know were to buy these badges from 
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Re: union jack
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2009, 08:03:27 pm »

Try asking a policeman or call at the station, years ago different forces had their own design of lapel
badges, about a £1 for their charities. These were very popular in the pipe band circles, the RUC had
a nice one as did Strathclyde police. We used to wear them as Tie tacks
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Re: union jack
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2009, 08:15:39 pm »

thanks for info but have not seen a policeman here in perranporth for months  station closes at 5 pm and weekends
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Re: union jack
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2009, 08:13:00 am »

If you search on eBay for "Union Jack Badge" you get 561 hits...take your pick :-))

Of course it should be Union Flag...for the pedantics on here :}

I would think that police are not allowed to were any unoffical badges, not just Union Flags, but what do I know?
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Re: union jack
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2009, 08:39:10 am »

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Re: union jack
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2009, 08:53:36 am »

The troubl;e with the Union Flag is that has been debased by it's use by the facists
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Re: union jack
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2009, 09:00:23 am »

The troubl;e with the Union Flag is that has been debased by it's use by the facists

True, but to use a slight cliche, it's time we claimed it back! We should be able to fly it, display it or wear it without being labelled as nationalist, racist or xenophobic. Proud and patriotic are the words I want to associate with the red, white and blue.

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Re: union jack
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2009, 09:20:16 am »

You are right there. The only reason it gets associated with some groups is that they are the only ones to display it. If it more effectively displayed by the general public it will regain its rightful place in the nation's heritage.
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Re: union jack
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2009, 11:27:47 am »

go to the US OF A  and you see more stars and stripes  in one street  than we have the union flag in the whole of the uk  still thay are still a great nation/ look after there own
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Re: union jack
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2009, 11:31:30 am »

Am I right in thinking that in the USA their flag cannot be defaced...ie used as beach shorts and the like.
another of my pet hates for the use of the our Union Flag
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Re: union jack
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2009, 12:29:50 pm »

a freind was in the staes and went into a shop dispalying stars and stripes flags. he asked if he could buy one, when asked the size he said, my dining table is about this big (waves arams around) so a bit bigger than that. They wouldn't sell him one after that.
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Re: union jack
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2009, 12:52:39 pm »

 In the US you cannot, legally, deface the country's flag, however, you can legally get all kinds of clothing items, and other things displaying the American flag. For example: http://www.nextag.com/stars-stripes-clothing/search-html
  What I don't understand is someone who is a citizen of country "x" proudly displaying the flag of country "y". We see that a lot in Canada, Canadians "proudly" wearing the US flag. Don't see that working the other way around...........Yeh, I know, the US owns most of Canada anyway.

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Re: union jack
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2009, 01:03:00 pm »

Don't you need planning permission (or something similar) to fly the Union Flag (or any other) anywhere than on an official building in the UK? I know there are specific dates laid down for flying them on council offices and the like.

When I worked for an engineering company in Cambridge the list of dates to fly the flag were posted up in the entrance hall.

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Re: union jack
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2009, 02:25:41 pm »

Interesting one this....

We sell thousands of flags, but hardly ANY Union flags or St George's Cross either.  Loads of St Andrew's Saltaire and the Welsh Dragon though.  I guess that the English just aren't particularly patriotic when it comes to their National symbols?

It's a bit like 'God save the Queen', most of us accept it because it's always been there, but I think that most English people would much prefer to have Blake's 'Jerusalem' as the English National Anthem?

Thinking about it, it probably is because the UK is made up of four distinctly separate countries that we use 'God save the Queen' collectively.  The Welsh, Scots and those in Northern Ireland could hardly be expected to sing with any enthusiasm about 'England's green and pleasant land'.  But what would they use instead?

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Re: union jack
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2009, 03:20:58 pm »

Scottish, "Flower of Scotland"

Welsh, "Mae Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau. The Land Of My Fathers". bet I got that wrong.

Irish, "Londonderry Air"
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Re: union jack
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2009, 04:44:25 pm »

Speaking of national anthems, this might give you a laugh....

Last year Hannah went to see a play in england and God save the queen was played,
Everybody stood up and Hannah asked us "why we were all standing",
Angie replied "this is the national anthem"......


Hannah then said in quite a loud voice "no it isn't!!!" Much to the amusement/bemusment of every one around us, I couldn't stop giggling and had to explain to the elderly couple next to us that we are from Wales and Hannah only knows the Welsh anthem....

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Re: union jack
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2009, 03:22:58 pm »

What upsets me is the ignorance when flying our national flag, when in Italy (Lake Garda) 2 years ago the local boat hire and a sunbed hire places had at least 3 of our union flags flying upside down.
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Re: union jack
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2009, 04:00:13 pm »

Even sadder is not having to go to Italy, it is quite often seen in this country too (UK) {:-{ :(( >:-o >>:-( <*< <:( <:( <:( <:( <:(
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Re: union jack
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2009, 04:25:49 pm »

arrow5

Kindly explain to the Forum how one can tell when the Union Flag is flown upside down please?

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Re: union jack
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2009, 05:34:40 pm »

Assuming the flagstaff is to the left of the flags the first one is the right way up and the second one is upside down.



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Re: union jack
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2009, 05:38:43 pm »

just beat me to it to explain. cannot remember how many times ii have pulled that and the royal air force flag up and down a flag pole
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Re: union jack
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2009, 05:59:34 pm »

Normally proper flags have a toggle at the top and a length of rope at the bottom so you shouldn't get wrong :-))
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« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2009, 06:24:29 pm »

Thank you DickyD.   I presumed you knew Malc :embarrassed:
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Re: union jack
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2009, 06:29:31 pm »

go to the US OF A  and you see more stars and stripes  in one street  than we have the union flag in the whole of the uk...

That much is true. Even Rosie the riveter is not forgotten. I stayed at my mate Jim's house. Every single neighbour in the 'hood all had the US flag on their houses.
At my old address I got in trouble with the council for sticking a Union Jack at the top of an antenna mast -- said I needed permission, go figger!
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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2009, 07:45:28 pm »

Here in Canada the federal government was giving away Canadian flags to anyone who wanted to fly them. I don't know if the offer is still open, but it was for quite a number of years.

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