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andyn

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Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« on: June 18, 2009, 09:29:56 PM »

Just aquired this boat, Don't know what it is, will look very nice when it's had a good tidy up. It currently has an old Taycol Comet in it, of which I know almost nothing about. My questions to the general assortment of Mayhemers are:

What is the hull?

What voltage should the motor be running on?

I'm hoping to run it on 3s Li-Po's but if the motor cannot take 11.1v, I'll have to run some 2s in it. We've had the motor chugging away happily on 12v in Bill's pond, the fish weren't happy but we do know it's a runner.



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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2009, 09:42:56 PM »

if you are going to use this motor please put a load of capacitors on it, in the old days we used to wrap foil round the motor in an attempt to cut down the interference that it kicked out. Of course
the radios of the day did not have the resolution that we have today. It was single channel, on the
button, have fun
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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2009, 09:49:34 PM »

Told You Andy. The radio had a single push button control. It work witha clockwork or rubber band ESC unit. That was my very 1st radio set up that I had. O happy days one push for left and three for right.
But dose anyone know what voltage the motor will run on?? I did have it on 12 volts to test it and it was pulling 1.6amps no load. Any Idears???
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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2009, 09:59:29 PM »

In the days of this motor the only batteries you could get were 6 & 12 volt, so take your pick.
What voltage does the motor sound happy on. Personally I would opt for 6volt, at least you will not
burn it out.
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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2009, 10:08:54 PM »

Actualy you had 2 volt accumalators as well so you could have a stack of those in there, although looking at the hull I would say it was running on 2 x 6 volt's. If I was you Andy take the motor out and stick it on e-bay because its a collectors item. Stick one of MMB's mototrs in on 12 volt will give it a nice speed (or you could stick your looney lipo's on it)

Warning----Cover up your fish pond Bill   :-))
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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2009, 10:14:11 PM »

Why Phil?????
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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2009, 10:25:13 PM »

I want to keep the original motor in it, for nostalgia purposes. I was going to put the blower motor from giantspring in it, but seeing as the Taycol works, why bother?

The looney Li-Po's do look the part in it...
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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2009, 10:27:05 PM »

no andy, the loonly lipo's will be lost inside it
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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2009, 10:31:11 PM »

Besides Phil, the more looney you get me going, the faster a boat you will have fired at you in the straight running ;)

Big Li-Po's Ghost...
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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2009, 10:31:46 PM »

Taycol "Comet" runs on 4.5 volt - 6 volt max  :-))

Won't last long on 12 volts I'm afraid.

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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2009, 10:32:26 PM »

Hmmphh Can it be run on 7.2v buggy packs?
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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2009, 10:43:34 PM »

Wouldn't like to say - might be fine but the motor's definitely designed for 6 volt max. - will actually run fine on 4.5.

Can't you remove a cell & just run it on 6?

Nice boat btw  :-))
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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2009, 10:48:50 PM »

Don't really want to go hacking packs apart, use them for other things. I suppose I could buy some Jellys for it, I'll see how it goes on 7.2 first, and air cool it.
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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2009, 10:58:43 PM »

I've got a 6 volt jelly cell you can have Andy (save burning out the motor)
And as you're not using lipo's Bills fish won't end up as sushi (thats why you had to keep it covered Bill---you what Andy's like)
 :-))
Its a nice hull, perfect straight runner   {-) {-)
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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2009, 11:06:58 PM »

I'll have to find an excuse to come down and see you then Phil, any straight running competitions or anything I can come and win for you soon? ;)
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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2009, 11:10:07 PM »

You wont be able to use a modern ESC on this motor.
I cant remember why but do remember it is wound differently to modern motors.
I an sure someone on here will be able to explain why.

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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2009, 11:11:49 PM »

We had it running proportionally on a Mtroniks 15 earlier.
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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2009, 11:15:55 PM »

All or nothing with Andy Bob

I'll let you know the date Andy for the Regatta at Welwyn Garden City   :-))
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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2009, 11:19:01 PM »

Great stuff, that's where the boat came from O0 Not in the fountain is it?
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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2009, 11:21:41 PM »

Stanbrough Lakes  ;)
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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2009, 11:23:31 PM »

Great stuff, I'll be there :-))
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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2009, 11:27:39 PM »

Andy,
Did it reverse as a Taycol Torpedo motor I had wouldn't.

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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2009, 08:47:28 AM »

Come on Phil When is this do in WGC. I will try and make it as well.  %% %%
Re the comment " it will not work with a modern ESC. It dose , however it was only a forwards only unit. We are both power boat users why do want to go backwards????
Yes it is an old motor but at the end of the day it is still only a DC brush motor Simple stuff. As for the voltage? 4.5v -6v sounds about right to me. So with a modern ESC and a 7.2v pack as long as it is limited back it should be fine.
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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2009, 09:55:10 AM »

Hi all, The Comet is one of the few Taycol motors with a permanent magnet so ESC's are OK.  The Star (4 1/2 - 6 volts) was another but this had a built in mechanical speed control, which adjusted the position of the brushes (and pressure) on the commutator.
There were also geared versions of the Comet.

Vintage has posted the voltage range but the motor is not powerful enough to run the boat shown.  The 4 1/2 volts to 6 volts motor designation would originally have utilised the 4 1/2 volt flash lamp battery or 2 x 3 volt cycle headlamp dry  batteries.
When I was in my teens I built a Feltra torpedo boat all balsa and 24 inches loa.  I used a Star motor with 2 x 4 1/2 volt dry batteries in series (9volts) and the boat planed, a rare sight in those days but the batteries lasted only 5 minutes or so!  Maybe just as well for the motor.

Expect power only to be 5 or 6 watts and at a low efficiency.  This is equivalent to a 385 on low volts.  When in use this boat did nothing but pootle along at a slow walking pace.

Either the boat needs a new more powerful motor or the motor needs a much smaller boat!

Nice to see a Comet though, there are not many around now and also great to see some old models being restored and brought back into use.

regards Roy
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Re: Restoration Job - Taycol Comet
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2009, 01:21:52 PM »

I'm thinking about scrapping the Comet idea and going for the blower motor after all, it's an easy enough change.

I'll have to look for something smaller for the Comet then, a little Lesro Sea Urchin should do it.
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