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Z Drives
« on: July 18, 2009, 06:53:48 am »

After some months of work, I've nearly finished two home-made Z drives.  %)

Just the Kort nozzles to be added and the top gears to be added..
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Re: Z Drives
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2009, 10:06:29 am »

now they are really nice  :-))
when do you start trials  %)
and most important when do you start mass production  :-))  %) .
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Re: Z Drives
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2009, 10:13:40 am »

What degree of rotation will you get?

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Re: Z Drives
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2009, 03:37:06 pm »

What degree of rotation will you get?


The props go round and round and round...  :D

The servo movement should give about 60 degrees either side of 0.. though i am looking in to a belt drive system from the servo to give something like 180+ degrees
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Re: Z Drives
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2009, 04:28:45 pm »

Hi Toesupwa

 Great skilled work, lot,s of thinking a head.  Love blueprints in old style code ( 1/64th  ;D)

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Re: Z Drives
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2009, 09:56:43 pm »

Looking very good.

You've done a nice job with the kort nozzles as well. What diameter are they - to give a sense of scale.

Reference rotation are you aware of Action Electronics P96 Servomorph

http://www.action-electronics.co.uk/pdfs/P96.pdf

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Re: Z Drives
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2009, 11:28:26 pm »

That is lovely work you have done there Toesupwa, it is nice to see things being made, rather than bought in as a finished unit.

It gives a great feeling knowing that you have made it yourself, and even a greater feeling in knowing that what you have created is unique and exactly what you need, with no compromises required to get it to fit the model.

Well done

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Re: Z Drives
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2009, 01:38:40 am »


You've done a nice job with the kort nozzles as well. What diameter are they - to give a sense of scale.

Reference rotation are you aware of Action Electronics P96 Servomorph


The props, with the tips turned off, are now 2 1/2" (65mm) Dia. making the Kort nozzles almost 3" (75mm) OD

I did a 'how to' on RC Groups when i did the Korts.. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1025555

I know of the P96 and there is something similar over in the USA that does the same thing. To get the servo / drive rotation to increase, i would need to convert the drives from the simple arm i have at the moment. That might come as a later development...  ok2
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Re: Z Drives
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2009, 02:39:25 am »

.. and I end up with two working Z Drives..

The Traxxas gear for the top of the shaft had too thin a wall to tap out for a grub screw to hold it to the shaft, so i had to bore out the centre and make up an adapter plate...
Someone at Traxxas also thought that 15/64" (instead of 1/4"  >>:-( ) was a sensible size for the shaft to the small gear...
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Re: Z Drives
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2009, 05:35:52 am »

I know of the P96 and there is something similar over in the USA that does the same thing. To get the servo / drive rotation to increase, i would need to convert the drives from the simple arm i have at the moment. That might come as a later development...  ok2

How About A 3x 360 Degree Sail Winch For The Turning Ability?
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Re: Z Drives
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2009, 06:25:38 am »

Tonight, I've added the Kort's to the drives.  O0
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Re: Z Drives
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2009, 08:42:16 am »

Those Look Absolutely Tremendous Toesup :-))
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Re: Z Drives
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2009, 01:54:40 pm »

as bogstandard says........"That is lovely work you have done there Toesupwa, it is nice to see things being made, rather than bought in as a finished unit"

......and that in it self is a compliment from an engineering professional.......

......but I do not see the lubrication provision in the lower 90 degree 1:1 bevel gear set nor an understanding of the up shaft 90 degree X?:1 gear set which may be WIZZING around @ say 3000 RPM........ Derek
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Re: Z Drives
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2009, 05:04:10 pm »


......but I do not see the lubrication provision in the lower 90 degree 1:1 bevel gear set nor an understanding of the up shaft 90 degree X?:1 gear set which may be WIZZING around @ say 3000 RPM........ Derek


The Graupner versions do not feature any provision for lubrication of the vertical shaft or the lower gearing in the bottom of the Z Drive.. just take them to pieces and add some more grease.

My versions will have the lower ends packed with grease as well as grease between the main down shaft (@ 1500 RPM at full throttle by the way) and the outer housing. I could add a grease nipple to the upper housing to get grease between the outer housing and the housing support though...
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