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nickever

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Boat Identification - Newbie!!
« on: September 14, 2009, 02:09:12 PM »

Hi there folks,

I was wondering if any of you fine knowledgable people could help me...

I recently dug these two incomplete boats out of my loft that were left there by the previous owner years ago. I know absolutely nothing
about model sailing/RC boats or boats in general and was wondering if anyone out there could help me to identify them and/or give me
some indication of what to do with them or their approximate value (if any?).

Here's what I do know-

They are both about 1metre long.
There is a removable keel that slots up into them.
They are made from wood (veneer)
There are numerous holes and compartments on the deck (possibly for RC motors/equipment?)
There are no brands/logo's or written marks anywhere on the boats to indicate who made them/what they are for.

Any help whatsoever would be greatly appreciated!!!!

Thanks a lot....

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Re: Boat Identification - Newbie!!
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2009, 04:41:18 PM »

They look very much like 1M class racing yachts. The keel and weight also looks very like the ones used for 1M yachts. They both look very nice!

The deck holes are for access to steering servo and other rc gear - no motors for these.

If you could provide exact length breadth and weights of the hulls and keel, then someone will be able to confirm if they fit the !M class rules.

Ian
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nickever

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Re: Boat Identification - Newbie!!
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2009, 10:24:13 PM »

Ok, thats a great start - thanks!

I will try and get those measurements and re-post with them,

Cheers for now,
Nick.
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nickever

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Re: Boat Identification - Newbie!!
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2009, 11:32:25 PM »

Ok, here goes with the measurements for the boats...

BOAT 1 (red patch on deck)
Length: 995mm
Breadth: 200mm
Weight: 800g

BOAT 2
Length: 995mm
Breadth: 165mm
Weight: 650g

KEEL
Weight: 2200g
Length: 235mm long (along the weighted end)
Height: 460mm

Hope these figures help?!

Here are a few more pics that might help as well....
Cheers!
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Islander1951

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Re: Boat Identification - Newbie!!
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2009, 10:13:06 AM »

Looks like an IOM for boat one, and possibly USOM for t'other one.
The keel is right on the minimum weight for the IOM.
I'm just guessing here, and could well be wrong!  :-)
Very nice hulls, I wish they were mine  :}
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nickever

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Re: Boat Identification - Newbie!!
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2009, 10:40:53 AM »

Thanks,
What does IOM and USOM stand for? Remember I am a complete newbie here!!!

Are these hulls likely to be worth anything? If so could anybody recommend somewhere to sell them
other than ebay? I might consider selling one hull and using the proceeds to go towards financing
doing up the other. Also which one would you sell? Ahhhhh So many questions.

Thanks for the help so far though guys....
Cheers.
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Re: Boat Identification - Newbie!!
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2009, 01:59:33 PM »

IOm is an international class racing yacht, length 1m, which makes them easily transported in an average car. The racing is very competative and great fun. I dont know about USOM.

I would be tempted to keep the IOM hull, there are plenty of fittings readily available

Here are two websites:

http://www.sailsetc.com/index.html

http://www.housemartinsails.co.uk/

I have used Housemartin in the past and can recommend them. Your hull will provide an easy entry into the class allowing you to learn and then decide if you want to get really competative, but be warned, this is when the cost starts to ramp up :o

As it happens, I have a sail winch servo for sale. I have used a similar one in a 1m yacht with success. See http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=19598.0

Ian
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Re: Boat Identification - Newbie!!
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2009, 02:34:57 PM »

Firstly, they are lovely hulls.

Where are you? US? UK? This may make a difference as to what they are.

As for value.
Depending on the age of the hull, they may not be a competitive hull anymore.
The last time I saw a non-competitve boat (a Marblehead) it did not sell for a long time and went for about 160 pounds. And this was a fully rigged boat with 3 sets of sails (for different wind conditions).
It also looks like you only have one keel and bulb.

Your hulls are wood, so may attract an enthusiast. But whoever buys the boat may have to spend 100-200 each (potentially more, IOM can be very expensive) to get them on the water. This will put a serious dent into any sale value.
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2009, 03:00:59 PM »

USOM is a one metre class mostly built and sailed in the USA, and they are lighter weight boats than the IOMs.
I think that they usually weigh about 5 1/2 lbs, and the IOM is 4Kg.(8.8lbs)
The narrower width of boat 2 is what makes me think that this is what you have here( less buoyancy )
I too would keep and sail the IOM, and you don't have to spend a fortune to get it on the water.
Fishing shops are good for braided dacron, dyneema or spectra line,also swivels, snap-hooks etc. ( also stainless wire for rigging)
Also look here for parts     http://www.pjsails.co.uk/
Have a look here for a guide about IOMs, section 2.9     http://www.ivorbittle.co.uk/
Talk to people at your local sailing water, and show them what you have; you might even get a scruffy old boat and be able to transfer all the bits!
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Re: Boat Identification - Newbie!!
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2009, 03:14:45 PM »

As has been said
Consider keeping them.

The last time I saw an older one meter boat, with a basic (non racing) set of rigging, it had been bought for 50.
If was a nice boat (although not wood) and sailed nicely.


If you don't want to keep them, stick them on ebay with a low reserve (25 each perhaps), or no reserve, and hope for a bidding war.
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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2009, 06:43:54 PM »

Thanks for the advice folks - most helpful!

Think I will continue to try and find out more about them and then consider selling at least one of them on ebay (or maybe a site like this would be more appropriate?).

Not sure what to do about the keel though as I only have one. Would that style of keel be easily replaced to match the boats as if I sell a boat I would probably sell it without the
keel and keep that for my boat. Or would a buyer be more interested in the hull and the keel? My only concern is the weight and then the cost of postage.

If I do decide to sell I will post here to let you know so anyone who is interested can have a look.

Any more info gratefully received, and thanks again...
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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2009, 11:08:14 PM »

Keep the keel, you will need it.
No point in selling it and then spending big /$$$ for a new one!   :-))
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Re: Boat Identification - Newbie!!
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2009, 02:19:35 PM »

Firstly, they are lovely hulls.

Where are you? US? UK? This may make a difference as to what they are.


It says on his postings "Location: St Ives, Cornwall UK" which I believe is in England TT.  ok2
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2009, 01:03:14 AM »

It says on his postings "Location: St Ives, Cornwall UK" which I believe is in England TT.  ok2

I think he may have updatedhis profile since my post.
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