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john j

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New to boat building
« on: November 15, 2009, 02:47:15 am »

Hi all,

As the title suggests, this is my first boat kit. I`ve been bulding and flying model aircraft since i was 6 or 7 years old and flying R/C fixed wing and Helicopters since around 1983, and more recently turbine powered aircraft, so i`m no stranger to working with wood  :-))

I`ve had the kit for a couple of weeks now (artisania latina HMS supply) and i dont anticipate any problem with the hull or the masts, but the rigging, i think i could be in a bit of bother with this i`m afraid. Not being a boat modeler, the termanology is completely ailen to me, so i`m gonna have to quick smart get up to speed on this.

The reason i have decided to build a ship now, is i`m fed up with all the ready to fly rubbish that fill`s the shop shelfs these days, the traditional modeler is all but forgotton about i fear.

My plan is, if i enjoy building the ship, is to sell it on and use the cash to fund a bigger/more elaborate ship, and maybe someday have a go at something like the victory  %%

                     Anyway, take it easy
                                               john
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john j

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Re: New to boat building
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2009, 03:31:21 pm »

Hi again,

Can anybody give me an idea of how many hours work it will take to build the above mentioned kit, and any tools unique to boat building that i wont have for building aircraft, any tools, tips or advice for the rigging ?

                                                   Thanks in advance
                                                                      john
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Re: New to boat building
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2009, 07:27:37 pm »

If you where Dickie D about a week , he seems to finnish a boat most weeks, and they all sail well to .

peter
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Re: New to boat building
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2009, 07:33:37 pm »

Sorry Peter dont do rigging, got shaky hands. :-))
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john j

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Re: New to boat building
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2009, 11:04:31 pm »

If you where Dickie D about a week , he seems to finnish a boat most weeks, and they all sail well to .

peter

Whats this - boat modelers with a sense of humour, well i never  {-) {-) {-) {-)
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john j

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Re: New to boat building
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2009, 11:11:36 pm »

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Wasyl

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Re: New to boat building
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2009, 01:14:37 pm »

I don,t build,at all,as i,ve got 10 Banana,s masquerading as fingers, {-)

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john j

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Re: New to boat building
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2009, 08:54:39 pm »

Does anybody know the best way to taper the the kit supplied dowel thats used for the mast`s ?

                           thanks in advance
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Re: New to boat building
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2009, 09:21:22 pm »

Does anybody know the best way to taper the the kit supplied dowel thats used for the mast`s ?

                           thanks in advance
                                             john

Insert the dowel in a drill chuck. Preferably a variable speed drill.

Wrap glass paper around other end of dowel and start drill.

Make sure dowel is over length at chuck end as chuck will bite into it.

Glass paper might get hot, don't burn fingers.  :-))
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john j

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Re: New to boat building
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2009, 12:33:59 am »

Insert the dowel in a drill chuck. Preferably a variable speed drill.

Wrap glass paper around other end of dowel and start drill.

Make sure dowel is over length at chuck end as chuck will bite into it.

Glass paper might get hot, don't burn fingers.  :-))

I`m not worried about the fingers, i`m used to getting them burned  {-) {-) {-) {-)

I`ll give your method a go with a scrap piece first to see how i get on  :-)) I like the idea, i just hope the dowel is long enough.  

                           Anyway, thanks for the reply
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Re: New to boat building
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2009, 12:44:06 am »

ware a stout glove is my advice also, don't use to long a length or it might start to whip; it happened to me and whacked me across my botty giving  me an unwelcome reminder of my school days!!
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john j

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Re: New to boat building
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2009, 02:22:56 am »

Is this a tried and trusted method or just an idea ?
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Re: New to boat building
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2009, 10:42:59 am »

Its how I did the masts and derricks on my Milford Star and my Coastal tramp steamer. Builds in Working vessels.

However I didnt do it behind my back like Liverbudgie. Weird.
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Re: New to boat building
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2009, 10:56:18 am »

Is this a tried and trusted method or just an idea ?

Used it whilst building my Cuty Sark 20 Years ago. I started by tapering the dowel with a knife then using the drill and sandpaper. Just beware the whip on long pieces

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Re: New to boat building
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2009, 06:29:37 pm »

Use adrill & sandpaper as suggested but drill the top & put in a wire nail to stick in a hole this will eliminate any chance of whip I have tool board at the back of the bench ,I also take some of the wood of with a block plane before i start
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john j

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Re: New to boat building
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2009, 11:17:42 pm »

Use adrill & sandpaper as suggested but drill the top & put in a wire nail to stick in a hole this will eliminate any chance of whip I have tool board at the back of the bench ,I also take some of the wood of with a block plane before i start

Hi guys,

Thanks for the replies  :-)), Yeah, i was thinking of a panel pin or similar to support the other end. I remember making a snooker cue at school and i dont recall it being to tricky.

                                    cheers
                                           john
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john j

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Re: New to boat building
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2009, 02:45:40 am »



Just to see the quality of the pictures from my phone.
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john j

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Re: New to boat building
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2009, 12:47:20 pm »



Just to see the quality of the pictures from my phone.
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john j

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Re: New to boat building
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2009, 12:48:20 pm »

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wideawake

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Re: New to boat building
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2009, 01:38:06 pm »

Hi guys,

Thanks for the replies  :-)), Yeah, i was thinking of a panel pin or similar to support the other end. I remember making a snooker cue at school and i dont recall it being to tricky.

                                    cheers
                                           john

Yes by doing that you're effectively making a temporary lathe with tailstock support.   Might also be useful to fix a wood pad near the centre point of the length set to just touch the dowel.   This will act like a fixed steady.   The dowel will flex enough to run the sandpaper past the steady.   I would certainly taper the dowel first to a square section and then to an octagon.    A small plane will work but I prefer a miniature spokeshave.  i fortunately still hae one that I bought when I first made models some 50 years ago.

HTH

Guy
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