Topic: New project - a restoration/conversion (Read 38905 times)

kiwimodeller · « **Reply #50 on:** May 31, 2010, 11:48:32 am »

I would definitely be keen on line drawings. I am gradually gathering information and if I cannot find a way to get the glass hull over here economically I will either scratch build P o F or make a mold for my own glass hull. Any help is always appreciated. Thanks, Ian.

gondolier88 · « **Reply #51 on:** May 31, 2010, 12:41:13 pm »

Well, as yet, no one else has come forward to ask for Delftship so I'm going to do a line drawing- sorry Kno3- though of course your more than welcome to the drawing.

Kiwi,

The model I have is triple planked in what looks like .9mm mahogany- this is true to full scale- although full scale would have been two diagonal amd one fore and aft planking layer.
The frames are cut from ply. I will draw it in exactly the way it is constructed.

I'll try and get it done asap, however i've got another drawing to finish first!

I'm glad other people share my love for these fantastic boats- again I must thank Barry for his generosity!

Greg

steamboatmodel · « **Reply #52 on:** May 31, 2010, 01:49:05 pm »

Quote from: gondolier88 on May 30, 2010, 01:39:07 pm

Hi Kiwi,

This is an offer to you, and anyone else if there is sufficient interest-

I can take the lines off this lovely model and transfer them either as a physical drawing in the post- or if you are familiar with Delftship I could send you a file of the plans for the boat after i've put in the offsets?

My prefered method is drawing, but as I say, if there is sufficient interest I will upload the offsets onto Delftship and email them.

Greg

I don't have Delftship,but would love a set of drawings.
Regards,
Gerald.

gondolier88 · « **Reply #53 on:** May 31, 2010, 02:12:42 pm »

Ok, so that's Gerald, Ian and possibly Kno3 for drawings- anyone else?

Greg

kno3 · « **Reply #54 on:** May 31, 2010, 09:20:26 pm »

Drawings are fine too, delftship even better

derekwarner · « **Reply #55 on:** May 31, 2010, 09:34:26 pm »

gondolier88

Like kiwimodeller & kno3 ........I would definitely be keen on line drawings for a future project

- Derek

gondolier88 · « **Reply #56 on:** May 31, 2010, 10:40:52 pm »

Hi,

Ok Derek. Lots of interest!!!

I wonder if anyone here knows of a manufacturer of model naval guns- specifically the model Hotchkiss 3 Pounder quick firing gun on my model picket boat= having a detailed look at it today revealed it has a rifled barrel, recessed for holding a cartridge along with the locking breach this would suggest a skilled craftsman or a specific manufacturere made the gun, however there is no firing mechanism to be seen.

I'm a little confused to say the least!

Greg

geoff p · « **Reply #57 on:** May 31, 2010, 11:35:20 pm »

Please put me down for line drawings too. This looks like a really great hull for just about anything, as well as its intended purpose.

BTW, just what are its length and beam?

Geoff

Circlip · « **Reply #58 on:** June 01, 2010, 10:38:29 am »

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I wonder if anyone here knows of a manufacturer of model naval guns- specifically the model Hotchkiss 3 Pounder quick firing gun on my model picket boat

Depends on calibre, were "Hilti" cartridges available when the model was made? Given the standard of construction of the model, could it have been made by one of the Naval Colleges by junior ratings to enter one of the M/E exhibitions? If not self made, WEB were about the only "Commercial" manufacturers.

Regards Ian

benjaml1 · « **Reply #59 on:** June 01, 2010, 10:58:12 am »

Something like this ?....

gondolier88 · « **Reply #60 on:** June 01, 2010, 11:00:41 am »

Hi Geoff P,

Not a problem, I think I will do the drawings and when they are complete I will post a thread in the 'Model Boating' section saying they are available so anyone that wants them can say so- of course I will PMM everyone who has expressed interest on this thread first.

It's 50"LOA and 11.5" beam and about (I havn't measured) 3.5" draft BWL.

Circlip,

You know more than me!!!! I havn't measured the calibre yet- but at a quick look I would say about 6mm -/+ .5mm. I like model guns as pieces of engineering, nothing else, so while I know what to look for as regards making it work, I don't know the first thing about it's history or who would have made it.

Your theory regarding a junior rating's project may be a good one- one of my crewmates on Gondola who worked at BAE systems for years said when he did his machining courses the navy ratings in the workshop who were going on to ordnance and artillery engineering would make miniature artillery or small parts for full size guns.
I will search Hilti Cartridges and WEB, trhanks for the lead.

Greg

gondolier88 · « **Reply #61 on:** June 01, 2010, 11:03:07 am »

Hi Benjamin,

Thanks, but I think that is a Hotchkiss 6 pounder, identical to the 3 pounder, just bigger, and if i'm not mistaken your picture is of the timekeeping gun in Hong Kong.

What I really need are details of model gun suppliers.

Greg

Circlip · « **Reply #62 on:** June 01, 2010, 11:48:42 am »

I haven't said this, but it sounds(?) about ".22" size so possibly "Hilti" or Starter pistol size might fit. Watch out for the local Plods though, it MAY be classed as a firearm.

Regards Ian.

WEB used to have a full back page colour advert on the toy boat mags years ago after being ressurected, The fittings were rather expensive at the time, Catalogue was an arm and a leg too. Think they finally went spheroids up about twenty(?) years ago.

benjaml1 · « **Reply #63 on:** June 01, 2010, 01:35:50 pm »

Quote from: gondolier88 on June 01, 2010, 11:03:07 am

Hi Benjamin,

Thanks, but I think that is a Hotchkiss 6 pounder, identical to the 3 pounder, just bigger, and if i'm not mistaken your picture is of the timekeeping gun in Hong Kong.

What I really need are details of model gun suppliers.

Greg

Sorry I couldn't help...

Lochen · « **Reply #64 on:** June 04, 2010, 01:03:05 am »

Well now!! See.................this is exactly what I wouldn't have had the time or patience to achieve Greg. Your work is looking great so far. As to the stern cabin, I was going to give it the 'plank' treatment internally as well (I don't posess the skills to have fabricated a complete new cabin). What can I say so far but WOW!

The boat has obviously gone to a good home and is in skilled hands with a secure future ahead of her.

Im happy.

Barry

gondolier88 · « **Reply #65 on:** June 10, 2010, 12:22:22 am »

Ok, update time.

Most of my work has been 'head work' recently- thinking of layout problems and engineroom details, so I've had a couple of evenings of actual work on the boat.

The photos show where the cabin is upto- it is now pretty much complete- planked, all the sides on, new illuminated name box (chosen 'Ajax' as the host ship), i've also rounded the corners as per the original.

You can see I've also now pretty much finished the transom too- 2.5mm oak at 45 degrees epoxy bonded to two directional pine planking.

Also, you can see the two little cabin doors I've made with their own brass locks and the brass knob I turned up on the lathe, mahogany framed with teak inlaid panels.

Greg

MONAHAN STEAM MODELS · « **Reply #66 on:** June 10, 2010, 05:00:47 am »

Nice work Greg! She's looking great.

Bernhard · « **Reply #67 on:** June 10, 2010, 06:05:10 am »

Tip Top

Bot Please work a littel faster

...cant went to see it ready...............

Regards Bernhard

derekwarner · « **Reply #68 on:** June 10, 2010, 07:23:56 am »

I must agree Bernhard....with a little imagination

you could be looking at a full size construction

keep the photographs coming gondolier88 .....Derek

gondolier88 · « **Reply #69 on:** June 10, 2010, 09:39:45 am »

Thanks guys,

Faster, faster????!!!!! I don't know

I'll try Bernhard

Quote from: derekwarner_decoy on June 10, 2010, 07:23:56 am

I must agree Bernhard....with a little imagination you could be looking at a full size construction

Wow, thanks Derek, that's a lovely compliment, I'm trying my hardest to get it to look just as full size would, unfortunately this does mean it takes a while!

Hi Nick, thanks mate, I'm aspiring to something you would turn out, lets see eh! Love the new profile pic- what's the connection???

Greg

derekwarner · « **Reply #70 on:** June 10, 2010, 10:46:56 am »

As gondolier88 ..says .....also, you can see the two little cabin doors I've made with their own brass locks ....

Greg...shouldn't the locks be on the outer side of the door set & not the inner?

.....Derek

Circlip · « **Reply #71 on:** June 10, 2010, 11:41:20 am »

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shouldn't the locks be on the outer side of the door set & not the inner?

Might be in Oz Derek but over here we tend to not let perps have access to the lock body.

It's tooooooo good to rush Greg, Ha' porth of tar and all that.

Regards Ian.

derekwarner · « **Reply #72 on:** June 10, 2010, 12:49:28 pm »

sorry Circlip........[which by name is a locking device

] in OZ we have the

locks on the outside of the doors .....mind you I am proud convict stock from the first fleet........

Derek

Circlip · « **Reply #73 on:** June 10, 2010, 12:54:46 pm »

Derek, a Circlip is a locking device ALL OVER the world, was an apprentice making Thousands of the little s*ds MANY years ago.

Regards Ian

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in OZ we have the locks on the outside of the doors

--- I suppose since you KNOW it's going to be broken into, why make it difficult??

steamboatmodel · « **Reply #74 on:** June 10, 2010, 06:39:11 pm »

My Dad always said "A locked door only keeps an Honest Man Honest"
Regards,
Gerald.

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