Topic: Any pedalclists out there? (Read 6341 times)

Patrick Henry · « **on:** February 19, 2010, 12:41:56 pm »

Any cycle experts about?

I've just bought four cycle wheel spokes to use as propshafts...stainless steel, plenty long enough, fit my prop tubes a treat...14gauge in size. I thought they were threaded 2mm...now I'm not so sure.

Questions:

(a) what does 14 gauge equate to in feet and inches? I can just about do metric if needs be...
(b) what thread would they be likely to be?
(c) where can I buy (as in beg, borrow or steal) four nuts to fit my spokes?

Rich

swordfish fairey · « **Reply #1 on:** February 19, 2010, 01:28:04 pm »

Hi Rich, I used to work in a cycle shop, Russells of York, before I joined the Navy and if I remember correctly , 14gauge equals 2mm...

13 gauge = 2.3mm

14 gauge = 2.0mm

15 gauge = 1.8mm

16 gauge = 1.6mm

I'm blowed if I can remember what the thread was, mind I have that problem all the time.
I seem to remember that there were some nuts that could be used instead of the nipples, ( sorry moderater) that are normally used..

Hope it is of some help.....

....Smudge

Patrick Henry · « **Reply #2 on:** February 19, 2010, 01:39:11 pm »

That's a start Smudge, thanks very much for your help. Looks like a little rethreading job for our sole remaining fitter on Monday then...they don't seem to be a common thread.

Thanks again..

Rich

Netleyned · « **Reply #3 on:** February 19, 2010, 02:38:30 pm »

I would have thought the threads would be Imperial either BSF or Whit
as bike wheels were sized in inches ? IMHO!

Ned

Patrick Henry · « **Reply #4 on:** February 19, 2010, 02:43:41 pm »

It's most strange Ned...I've been trying a few nuts and things on the spokes, and the nearest I can get is a fag paper shy of the threaded screw holes in a 280 motor. Whatever they are threaded, my spokes are a smidge too small. If I can now find out what those threads are and subtract a fag paper, I'll be almost there.

Rich

Patrick Henry · « **Reply #5 on:** February 19, 2010, 02:52:38 pm »

Now according to the great man's website http://www.action-electronics.co.uk/pdfs/MOTORS01.pdf the 280 is threaded M2.3, so I'm guessing my spokes are (minus the proverbial fag paper) M2 perhaps? Whatever that equates to in English...

I've just tried a 2mm prop on the spokes and it's too small, the prop won't screw onto the threaded portion of the spoke.

Rich

swordfish fairey · « **Reply #6 on:** February 19, 2010, 03:07:36 pm »

Hi again Rich, I have found in an old manual on bike repair that the tread on 14 gauge spokes is 2.2 x 56 tpi, that's a rolled thread,not cut.. Smudge

Patrick Henry · « **Reply #7 on:** February 19, 2010, 04:01:05 pm »

Quote from: swordfish fairey on February 19, 2010, 03:07:36 pm

Hi again Rich, I have found in an old manual on bike repair that the tread on 14 gauge spokes is 2.2 x 56 tpi, that's a rolled thread,not cut.. Smudge

Aha..now that's interesting, I found a website where it stated something about rolled threads. So, it's likely that I need 2.2mm nuts then...that's gonna be fun finding those.

Smudge, thanks for your help mate, it's very much appreciated.

Rich

Netleyned · « **Reply #8 on:** February 19, 2010, 04:05:12 pm »

I think the best bet is to cut a known thread siize
I would be inclined to run a M2 die over the spoke end and see where that takes you

Ned

Patrick Henry · « **Reply #9 on:** February 19, 2010, 04:09:14 pm »

That'll be easier said than done...I don't possess equipment such as that any longer, that went with the house/workshop/wife.

Maybe I should buy four new shafts and tubes...seems expensive though just for four nuts.

Thanks Ned..

Ric

DickyD · « **Reply #10 on:** February 19, 2010, 05:45:05 pm »

Hi Rich, what is a pedalclist ?

Tug-Kenny RIP · « **Reply #11 on:** February 19, 2010, 05:48:51 pm »

Don't the threaded spokes have their OWN threaded capture nuts to secure them to the Bicycle rim.

I seem to remember my Father realigning a wheel when I was a child by tightening and loosening them on the wheel rotated on a jig. The nuts had tapered heads on them with screwdriver slots in. (a bit like a golf tee).

If you had these, then you could trim off the tapered top to have the correct size nuts.

Hope all this makes sense.

Ken

Patrick Henry · « **Reply #12 on:** February 19, 2010, 05:56:13 pm »

I haven't a clue to be honest Ken, you could well be correct. I'll go down the local cycle shop in the morning and see what they can can up with. Seems silly not to be able to get the nuts...watch this space, I'll report back in the morning.

Quote from: DickyD on February 19, 2010, 05:45:05 pm

Hi Rich, what is a pedalclist ?

"a pedalclist"...we have so many of those electric cycle things around here Dickie, they are known as "lecalists" and those who pedal their cycles are known as "pedalclists". Simples!!!

Rich

DickyD · « **Reply #13 on:** February 19, 2010, 05:58:51 pm »

Rich check this out.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=12628

Simples !!

Patrick Henry · « **Reply #14 on:** February 19, 2010, 06:04:58 pm »

Yep, that'll be the very things Dickie boy...I only want four though, not thirty six.

Think I'll have a walk round the estate later, bound be a bike laying around somewhere. As we old (ex) sweeper drivers say...'where's a wheel there's a bike...'

Rich

Tug-Kenny RIP · « **Reply #15 on:** February 19, 2010, 06:24:40 pm »

Trouble is, it will be covered by some sturdy rubber and full of air.

ken

Patrick Henry · « **Reply #16 on:** February 19, 2010, 06:26:56 pm »

Ah, but at least I'll be able to ride it home...

Rich

DickyD · « **Reply #17 on:** February 19, 2010, 06:32:35 pm »

Quote from: Tug---Kenny on February 19, 2010, 06:24:40 pm

Trouble is, it will be covered by some sturdy rubber and full of air.

ken

Should you talk about Rich like that Ken ?

Patrick Henry · « **Reply #18 on:** February 19, 2010, 06:34:05 pm »

Rich

funtimefrankie · « **Reply #19 on:** February 19, 2010, 07:08:20 pm »

nipples

Patrick Henry · « **Reply #20 on:** February 19, 2010, 07:13:33 pm »

Patrick Henry · « **Reply #21 on:** February 20, 2010, 07:53:44 am »

The problem has been solved, gentlemen....I bought four common or garden M4 propshafts, I got fed up mucking about with bicycle spokes and odd sized threads. It'll be much easier to obtain props to suit M4 shafts than it would have been to get props threaded to 2.3mm.

I thank you chaps, for your assistance and your guidance.

Rich

derekwarner · « **Reply #22 on:** February 20, 2010, 12:02:58 pm »

Thank goodness sensibility has prevailed U33..................

as there is no such 2.3 mm diameter thread form as a commercially available unit or die nut

. Derek

Patrick Henry · « **Reply #23 on:** February 20, 2010, 12:04:38 pm »

You are talking to a nut Derek...

Rich

Patrick Henry · « **Reply #24 on:** February 23, 2010, 04:50:06 pm »

Shafts arrived today, in the process of fitting them now. Oh..and the props arrived as well, they fit perfectly.

Rich

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