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Re: Another little project
« Reply #50 on: June 10, 2010, 05:20:35 pm »

The Brass/Bronze body is electrically conductive Ian  O0

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Re: Another little project
« Reply #51 on: June 10, 2010, 08:57:23 pm »

Today I thought I would have a go at some steam pipe and silver solder.

Not having done much ss before, I decided to do some practise items first. The first pic shows a flange blank ss’d to a short length of copper pipe and cut in half. As I wanted to be sure to get full penetration (ooeeerrr), I cut the item in half to have a look.

Success, it appears to have gone all the way through!

I then cut 2 more blanks and had a go at soldering from the pipe end,  pic 2 shows the result, not so good, think again.

 I then turned a flange with a spigot for the pipe to sit in with the idea of putting a ring of ss in the bottom of the spigot, apply heat and let it do its job, but, the pcd of the bolt holes is too small to let me do this with the design requirement of 4mm pipe, so, think again!

I then soldered blank flanges onto a length of pipe from the open end of the flange, filed back to near flat and finished on a flat plate – success, pics 3 and 4 show the results, with some added bling!

Next I needed to work out a way of getting 4 bits of pipe the same. Pic 5 shows a flange positioned 20mm or so from the end of the pipe., with flux and ready to solder.
Pic 6 sees that pipe in the tube bender, using the flange to locate for length, and pic 7 shows the pipe after bending.

Pics 7 and 8 show the finished and polished pipes. These will need to be cut to length to fit into the control block at a later stage.

Overall, I am happy with the results, they aren’t as good as some I have seen, but they’ll do!

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Re: Another little project
« Reply #52 on: June 11, 2010, 12:25:04 am »

I was sent by my company all over the world to bend copper & S/S tubing ( amongst other things.) Nice job....  :-))
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Re: Another little project
« Reply #53 on: June 11, 2010, 07:24:26 am »

I was sent by my company all over the world to bend copper & S/S tubing ( amongst other things.) Nice job....  :-))

What,like finding a skyhook, going for a bucket of holes for fittings, a long stand etc etc. ;D

Forgive my sarcasm, but where and why did your company send someone allover the world to do something that a lot of people can do?

Greg
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Re: Another little project
« Reply #54 on: June 11, 2010, 09:17:41 am »

Installing fluid applicators in Morogoro Tanzania, Tepic Mexico, Harare  Zimbabwe & Simcoe Canada to name but a few.... If you have been to Morogoro, you wouldn't be asking that question..  ok2

There are people working for Bechtel doing just that, running stainless & copper tubing going all over the world. They have it down to an art form... Big world out there..  :-))
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Re: Another little project
« Reply #55 on: June 11, 2010, 11:08:10 am »

Although some learned sources may decry its use, a mate is having total success using the Silver Solder paste supplied in syringes. The paste contains the flux so you don't have to blather Borax or whatever allover. The question that arises is that once opened, the life of the product is limited but the suppliers have been demonstrating the same tube for more than two years. Just replace the cap after use and ensure no airspace at the nozzle end.

 http://www.cupalloys.co.uk/842-silver-solder-paste-i96.html

 I have NO affiliation with the above company but know of at least one ecstatic user.

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Re: Another little project
« Reply #56 on: June 11, 2010, 06:18:23 pm »

Installing fluid applicators in Morogoro Tanzania, Tepic Mexico, Harare  Zimbabwe & Simcoe Canada to name but a few.... If you have been to Morogoro, you wouldn't be asking that question..  ok2...

Wow, that is some place to work, you there recently???

Greg
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Re: Another little project
« Reply #57 on: June 11, 2010, 06:59:21 pm »

No about 10 years ago, We stayed in a company house more or less overlooking Robert Mugabe's palace, well actually didn't see much except armed guards & walls...  This was just before he started kicking the white settlers off their farms to pay for the pensions of the war veterans. It all started going t!ts up so we later dissassembled the equipment in 2 large factories & them shipped to Mozambique, all clandestined, right under their noses...

Wonderful people & country sadly ruined by a madman...
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Re: Another little project
« Reply #58 on: June 11, 2010, 08:53:30 pm »

Isnt Mayhem wonderful!

A great experience mate, I'm glad you got out unscathed.

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Re: Another little project
« Reply #59 on: June 11, 2010, 09:45:00 pm »

Thanks, Great site but we need to let boatmadman get on with his superb thread .. :-))
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Re: Another little project
« Reply #60 on: June 21, 2010, 11:19:27 am »

Any news on the broken tap?

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Re: Another little project
« Reply #61 on: June 21, 2010, 02:30:36 pm »

The steam chest has been soaking in a saturated solution of magic powder for a few days now, when I try and scrape the broken tap with a small drill by hand, there is a metallic residue on the end of the drill, so I think its doing something, but its very slow.

Ian
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Re: Another little project
« Reply #62 on: June 21, 2010, 03:02:36 pm »

Thanks Ian.

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Re: Another little project
« Reply #63 on: June 24, 2010, 10:50:46 pm »

Ian,

Your project is really looking great! You got me hooked on it. Have you made any further progress. I need to get my fix! O0

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Re: Another little project
« Reply #64 on: June 25, 2010, 06:28:20 am »

A little, yes, but forgot the camera!

I made up the steam connections to the control block, needed a jig to get the alignment right.

Then started assembling engine no1. Its taking a bit of fettling but its getting there, I will get some pics tonight or tomorrow.

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Re: Another little project
« Reply #65 on: June 26, 2010, 03:37:47 pm »

here we have engine no. 1 mostly assembled and timed. Just needs the blank plates fitting to the steam chests, the cylinder covers bolting on and the steam control block fitting.

It turns with two fingers on the flywheel, its just a little tight, but I hope it will improve with running in.

Now I have to wait for more copper pipe for the inlet/outlet connections.

Then I will have to beg steal or borrow a compressor!

Ian
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Re: Another little project
« Reply #66 on: June 26, 2010, 03:59:57 pm »

Ian.......don't worry about the compressor  :embarrassed: ...I think there will be enough HUFFING & PUFFING from Mayhem members world wide to rotate the engine for you...it looks  :-))

What type of piston seals [o-rings] did you choose?....Viton or Silicone? & I assume the gland seals are Viton....but how about the cylinder cover gaskets?

All very interesting for steam lovers.........  O0 Derek

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Re: Another little project
« Reply #67 on: June 26, 2010, 04:22:15 pm »

There are no seals in the engine yet, but viton o rings will be used, and hylomar for the gaskets.

Ian
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Re: Another little project
« Reply #68 on: June 26, 2010, 06:12:29 pm »

Ian,

A joy to behold! Can't wait to see it working.

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Re: Another little project
« Reply #69 on: June 26, 2010, 06:25:28 pm »

This is getting exciting...  :-))
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Re: Another little project
« Reply #70 on: June 26, 2010, 09:00:35 pm »

Hi Ian,

I have a boiler (and engine) at the moment that I am remedying for them- if you want to bring the engine round you can hook it up to steam if you want?

A second opinion on trhe engine may be welcome too!!!

Greg
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« Reply #71 on: June 26, 2010, 09:13:05 pm »

Greg,

Thanks for the offer, but its not quite ready for that, I need pipework for the inlet and exhaust yet.

All being well, I will be on Brown How with my 1:1 build tomorrow afternoon, and possibly in the Royal Oak for a bite later.

I would be happy to look at your engine, not that I am an expert though! %%

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Re: Another little project
« Reply #72 on: June 26, 2010, 10:29:25 pm »

Hey hey, getting out the spinnaker are we, it's been good sailing weather past few days- got a feeling it might be wet tomorrow- hope not though.

You'll have to pop in and see us on your way home/to pub or both. I was talking to (just to digress your thread even more! %) ) David(?) Jakes at the Festival of the Sea last weekend, he was very interested in my Picket Boat, i'm busy most sunday mornings however so I don't get down to Barrow Park, so at least you'll be able to see it.

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Re: Another little project
« Reply #73 on: June 26, 2010, 10:38:47 pm »

spinnaker? lol, no, its a standing lug rig!

I know Dave Jacques very well, he builds some fantastic subs, one of which is an 8ft A class model!

If you see a silver Audi towing a white clinker dinghy pass by, thats us!

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Re: Another little project
« Reply #74 on: June 26, 2010, 10:59:44 pm »

While driving your, no doubt, immaculate silver audi, if you pass a beat up red audi a few houses up from the royal oak that's us- No.4.

Happy sailing, I will digress your thread no more. See you tomorrow hopefully.

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