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davidsg1a

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Re: Giant cod problem
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2010, 05:17:26 pm »

It all works on the other channels, I tryd the mode switch and that moves the problem to the other side.
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davidsg1a

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Re: Giant cod problem
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2010, 05:22:31 pm »

Just got a message on the giant cod forum and the guy there says:

(The transmitter is set up to operate with aircraft. Throttle is either high or low depending where the stick is positioned ...there is no centre zero on the throttle stick. Your boat has reverse. Aircraft only use one direction for motor rotation).
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Re: Giant cod problem
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2010, 05:40:12 pm »

Well mine works fine without any "fixing" with Vipers.
I do file the ratchet to give a constant neutral and set up the viper to this.
Turn on Transmitter.
Turn on Viper Switch.
Press set button.
Go full ahead then back to neutral, the green led glows till neutral selected.
Same for astern.

Vipers do however have a car/aircraft setting which can be changed by:
Press set button and switch on.
Press set button 4 times.

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Re: Giant cod problem
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2010, 05:40:12 pm »

Which channel is it?
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davidsg1a

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Re: Giant cod problem
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2010, 05:51:01 pm »

Hey Bob, Iv try doing the things you have said and its still selecting astern when switching on.



Martin Its the third one down.
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Re: Giant cod problem
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2010, 05:58:15 pm »

My wife has a similar problem with her lifeboat.

Switch on Tx, switch on Rx and motor starts up flat out.

Turn of Rx then turn on again, wait a few seconds and it then works fine.

Weird. {:-{
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davidsg1a

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Re: Giant cod problem
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2010, 06:04:54 pm »

Ye think im gona have to bite the bullet and just put up with it, as long as I set it up and turn it all on before it goes in the water I'll get away with it. >:-o
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Re: Giant cod problem
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2010, 08:02:45 pm »

Try it out of the water first.  :-))
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Re: Giant cod problem
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2010, 08:09:46 pm »

When the GC 2.4 TX is first turned on it applies throttle, before turning on the RX and setting up the ESC move the throttle to full power and then full reverse, then centre it. Turn on the RX and set up the ESC.

The GC can be easily improved for use with boats if you are happy to lose the warranty.

1. set the four recessed front dipswitches to mode 1 ie down.

2. remove the 4 screws from the backplate, no need to remove the battery cover , or batteries.

3. Open the case and set the small Mode dipswitch on the PCB to "Mode 2" and the mixer dipswitch to  "Normal"

4. The throttle channel is fitted with a ratchet, undo the small screw and remove the sprung steel arm. Put these to one side.

5. If you are happy with a throttle that does not self-centre then go to 9 below.

6 On the right hand control identify the unused channel 2 ( up and down ) and you will see a plastic arm held in place by a spring. Move the gimbal as necessary and gently slide the arm off it's pivot. Use tweezers to remove the spring.

7. The plastic arm and spring fit onto the throttle mechanism on the side opposite where the ratchet was fitted, fitting the arm and spring is the reverse of removing it and the throttle now self-centres.

8. If you wish, fit the ratchet arm onto channnel 2 by slotting  it into the groove and fix it with the screw. ( Everything so far is reversible if you need to make a warranty claim )

9. This TX  applies full servo movement with only 3/4 TX control movement, this can be easily corrected by simply inserting 1k 1/4 watt resistors by following this guide, there is no need to do the Rates mod.

10. close up the case and refit the 4 screws.

These changes make the Giant Cod 2.4 a much better radio for use with boats.


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Re: Giant cod problem
« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2010, 08:34:22 pm »

dodgy geezer

I looked at that switch and it at normal.

Ok - just a thought.

There are a couple of other known issues with the cheap GC set.

1 - the quality control  can be a little dodgy. On one of my sets I found that one of the wires to a stick pot was only held on with one wire strand. So it's worth checking these (particularly for the channel which is a problem) You may find that a poor connection is the cause of your problem.

2 - all of the channels on my cheap GC set did not make the servo give its full swing - there was 10% or so missing. This can be corrected by soldering a 1K (I think) resistor into the wiring line - see the GC forum for details of this. I wonder if that might have an effect....



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Re: Giant cod problem
« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2010, 09:11:32 pm »


I think that a very good point dodgy , they are very cheap and cheerful but fantastic value for money - 2.4Ghz 4 channel radio for £25!   :o

I suppose several mods are possible, thanks for yours kinmel, I might just move the pot or wire and swap the channel around internally
 as I won't be using more than 3 channels, so I can sacrifice channel 3.

BTW, someone remind me please, which stick movements relate to which channel please?
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Re: Giant cod problem
« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2010, 09:30:25 pm »

Martin if you are not using a channel you can screw a strap across the two green arrowed holesmake it out of plasticard and you may need to put a bit of packing under the middle remove the spring an arm first and use it for self centering somewhere else. any of the pots can be done as you will prob need that one

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davidsg1a

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Re: Giant cod problem
« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2010, 09:32:26 pm »

Hey Martin, thanks for all the help, i'll try and help you now.

D-D is Channel 1
C-C is Channel 2
B-B is channel 3
A-A is Channel 4
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Re: Giant cod problem
« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2010, 09:34:48 pm »

Thanks Peter, thanks David.

 Thank you New York and good night.  

     oHico  :-)

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PMK

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Re: Giant cod problem
« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2010, 10:01:28 pm »

Memo to the Da Man Upstairs:

"Dear Lordy, please can I have one of whatever Martin is drinking?"

This is a bloody interesting thread.
I don't actually own a GC radio myself, so if it's not too stupid a question, what would happen if he (davidsg1a) were to replace the trottle stick with a self-centreing type? Would that be all it takes in order for his Viper work as it should?


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Re: Giant cod problem
« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2010, 10:35:31 pm »

PMK,
If peter likes the ratchet on the throttle stick (as I do).
Just remove the back 4 x screws and you will see the ratchet on the stick.
Set this control to neutral and mark the grooves on the side with a pencil.
Move the stick for this mark to clear the spring arm.
Rub a small triangular or square file on its edge along the plastic groove opposite the pencil mark.
Check that this gives the stick a noticeable neutral point. if it does replace the back.
This will allow you to set up every ESC on the same transmitter signal as the stick will be in the same place every time.
This does work as I have now done it on 4 transmitters.

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PMK

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Re: Giant cod problem
« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2010, 12:28:27 am »

I hear what you're saying about filing that groove. Neat idea; perhaps ought to be the very first modification for any GC owner to consider.
So, if I'm on the right track, the general consensus seems to be, as long as the Viper receives a steady neutral at start-up, then everything will work as it should.
Thanks for the heads-up.

I wonder if it would be possible to squeeze a ready-made self-centering stick in there, such as one, say, from a Futaba set?
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Re: Giant cod problem
« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2010, 07:19:00 am »


I think that a very good point dodgy , they are very cheap and cheerful but fantastic value for money - 2.4Ghz 4 channel radio for £25!   :o


Umm...no. As of a week or so ago they are 5 CHANNEL radios. See the GC forum for details of how to attach a switch to add another channel.

And watch that space for further developments - I suspect the basic transmitter is 6 channel, with two suppressed - work is progressing on unlocking the last channel...


 
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« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2010, 09:28:43 am »

A friend has had problems this weekend with one of these sets.
Used on a sail winch he had problems trying to move the winch on the left stick sounds like the same problem to me.
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Re: Giant cod problem
« Reply #44 on: April 16, 2010, 09:03:07 am »


Are there any spares available for the Giant Cod 4 5 6?!  channel radio system?
Maybe the self centring arm....
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« Reply #45 on: April 16, 2010, 09:19:08 am »

No Mustang Mark made his own

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« Reply #46 on: April 16, 2010, 08:18:10 pm »


Are there any spares available for the Giant Cod 4 5 6?!  channel radio system?
Maybe the self centring arm....


This is what the arm looks like. Sorry I can't post an exact size pdf - the board software won't allow it - PM me if you want the pdf file...
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« Reply #47 on: April 17, 2010, 01:34:07 pm »

Having tried, I find I can't post pdfs anywhere. Looks like I will need personal e-mails for anyone who wants a pdf  :(( :((

Mind you, I have also realised that, with a slight alteration of the angle at the bottom of the arm, this would also make the throttle stick into a 'self-centering' 75/25 stick. Is that what people want - a stick which 'centres' to a neutral which is not perpendicular to the case front, but tilted towards the case bottom? This is what the arm would look like in that case...
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« Reply #48 on: April 17, 2010, 03:46:20 pm »

Having tried, I find I can't post pdfs anywhere. Looks like I will need personal e-mails for anyone who wants a pdf  :(( :((

Mind you, I have also realised that, with a slight alteration of the angle at the bottom of the arm, this would also make the throttle stick into a 'self-centering' 75/25 stick. Is that what people want - a stick which 'centres' to a neutral which is not perpendicular to the case front, but tilted towards the case bottom? This is what the arm would look like in that case...


Some very old  Futaba sets (medalion) where supplied with two spare arms one for self centering and one for 70/30
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« Reply #49 on: April 18, 2010, 11:34:58 pm »

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