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Le Caux Deux

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Ross Daring
« on: July 16, 2010, 05:16:41 PM »

I donít know whether I should do this because if I start this and it all goes wrong I have egg on my face. But on the other hand Iím hoping that by going this Iíll get some help when I need it and some inspiration too. A bit about me Iím retired, Iíve no skills in any of the disciplines needed to build model boats, Iím an ex AV producer and latterly a IT manager. Iíve got a basic set of hand tools plus a newly acquired Scroll Saw and a tower drill.

So a bit of history Iíve scratch built two boats in the past. A French customs boat, I never fully completed, although it went really well, for two reasons, firstly the joints in my hull construction showed signs of cracking after its first outing, which was just a ply on frame assembly. I tried to coat it with fibre glass but because I had painted the boat fully the matting did not stick to the hull successfully. So I abandoned that and tried again with a tug - Le Caux. The choice of boat was mainly because I had started to take an interest in Tug Towing which I thought would give an extra dimension to the hobby. I built the boat according to the plans and it worked and still does but I struggled with a few things. Firstly I realised that compared to other peopleís tugs mine was under powered, despite following the plans. But with a few mode to props and speed control It works well as on a scale steering course but hasnít the power for serious towing. The basic construction seems sound but itís only with a good helping of filler paste that it looks something like, I followed the same technique as before ply frames and a thin ply skin then glass fibre matting. The upper section of the boat is from plastic card therefore Iíve only had to paint the hull and deck for the boat to look OK. Thatís the end of the history lesson. Oh one final thing when I built the tug I didnít realise this forum existed and I hadnít joined a Club both of which I hope to now get some help from.

So Iím going to have a go at Ross Daring scratch build from the plans in MMI but being silly Iíve decided to change  a couple of things before I start.  One Iím going to build it at about 1/33 the plans are at 1/50 so Iíve enlarged them to suit. Secondly Iíve scrapped the French customs boat so Iíve got 2 motors 2 rudders and 2 prop shafts, and because I like steering events I like the idea of two props and the control over the boat that this gives so sheíll have twin screws fitted (all being well).
Iíve come up with one problem already Ė Apart from the plans and two picture of the boat published with them I can find very little else out about the boat, Apparently their were three boat built of the same class Ross Daring,  Ross Delight and Ross Dainty, so if anyone has any further information I would much appreciate the help. From what I understand from the drawings is that the boats were stern trawlers but without the cutaway stern associated with more modern boats.
As for the build donít expect this to be a quick affair Ė her indoors can always find me something else to do Ė so far Iíve cut the keel (right word?) out of ľ inch ply that I had lying about, and started to cut the frames from 1/8th ply recovered from the skip of a local sign maker, Iíve also made a build board from some spare ĺ chip board. Iím trying to do things as carefully as possible and I have spent a good deal of time sanding the frames to a reasonable degree of accuracy and trying to ensure they are a good fit to the drawings. (see pic)
Iím starting to worry about all sorts of problems that Iíve not reached yet For instance there are no photos of the back of the boat only the drawing, will I be able to get enough detail from that. And never having been to sea in a trawler or been near one will it all look something like itís supposed too.

Mike
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Le Caux Deux

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Re: Ross Daring
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2010, 09:12:31 PM »

By the way
This is what it should look like one of the 2 pictures of the boat thanks to

www.trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/
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wbeedie

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Re: Ross Daring
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2010, 01:25:39 AM »



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Le Caux Deux

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Re: Ross Daring
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2010, 11:03:59 PM »

Completed the frame assembly but I dont know how I'm going to planl the back of the boat the curves look way too complex for my skills
Removes frames from board and checked all the dimensions and everything looks right but I'can't plank the frames in one run which ever way I try

Help!!!

Mike
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Le Caux Deux

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Re: Ross Daring
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2010, 11:04:58 PM »

Close Up of rear frames

Mike
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Tug-Kenny

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Re: Ross Daring
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2010, 11:05:05 AM »


I'm having a go at building a plank on frame ship at the moment, so I know how daunting it feels.

May I recommend Bluebirds thread as a excellent advice.

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7947.0

This is a very detailed explanation and may put your mind at ease. Go on .... have a go.... it's very rewarding.   :-))

Cheers

ken


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Prophet

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Re: Ross Daring
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2010, 11:59:10 AM »

I think many of us will understand how daunting a first scratch build can be especially when you have little experience in modeling. The only thing i can suggest at your current phase is to get as much information collected about the boat itself, read up on all the methods of construction and give yourself a knowledge database to refer to. once you have that, plan the stages of the build, your next at the moment will be plank on frame construction by the looks of it, so read up on how to do that, the previous link done by bluebird is well worth its weight in gold.

in regards to the rear (transom) it would appear that its part of the hull construction rather then a flat rear panel and that planking diagonally will aid in the creation of the curve, as i said once before bluebirds thread clears that up very nicely, but be sure to check the 'build masterclass section of this forum to see how the pros do it.

and lastly .. DON'T be afraid of it, if you make a mistake its wood.. you can repair it pretty easily, remember making mistakes is how we all learn.

be confident in yourself and it will show through your build.

As for the wife .. we all have them , it might be best to 'develop' selective hearing  %%
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japottinger

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Re: Ross Daring
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2010, 04:58:04 PM »

Carry on, doing fine so far!
 designer Jim Pottinger
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