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18 Century Lugger added to the Freebooter Fleet
« on: August 08, 2010, 11:11:22 PM »

This is the latest addition to the fleet  "WOLFSHEAD" An old Saxon name meaning Outlaw ...  An 18 century Armed Lugger....The basic hull is from Orion Mouldings purchased on a very damp Saturday at Whipsteed ... I have been wanting to build another Lugger for a long time and I thought this was the ideal hull to do it
  She's only small 28 inches on the hull...40inches length -o-all (Bowsprit to boomkin)
  She's ketch rigged with (at the moment) a single topsail on the main and mizzen,,, both topsails can easily removed for heavy weather or the main topsail can be replaced by the mizzen to give a reduced sail area... two reef's can be worked into both the main and the mizzen to futher reduce sail (Jack line reefing)
 So far she has sailed in 16 mph winds under full main, mizzen and jib (no top sails) and has proved a very fast sea kindly Vessel
 she is pierced for 8 gun ports (4 pounders and plans to ship a 9 pounder "Long Tom" between the masts are in hand)
The build is 3/4 done and should be completed in 4 to 6 weeks
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Re: 18 Century Lugger added to the Freebooter Fleet
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2010, 11:30:57 PM »









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Re: 18 Century Lugger added to the Freebooter Fleet
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2010, 07:08:05 PM »

AYE   Jimmy ,ya build a fine lookin craft .
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2010, 11:34:48 PM »

Hi Dave
 She's not finihsed yet,
Am just trying out the rig , the wind was 14 - 16 mph so at first I took the main topsail off and sailed her bald headed on the main but she needed a bit more power so I put the mizzen topsail on the main (The main topsail is a huge sail and was too much for the Gusty conditions) and she took off like there was a Revanue Cutter in her wake


 Under mizzen topsail  but bald headed on the main


  Mizzen topsail set on the main mast instead of the main main topsail  (Sort of a reffed top sail)
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2010, 11:44:06 PM »

Sorry about the above But the phone went and You guessed it I hit the wrong button (Send... not the spell check)~'?&%$  :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2010, 06:15:27 PM »

Excellent work  :-)) looks really lifelike on the water (as usual with your models!)

What Orion hull did you use - is it their "Naval Cutter"? (http://www.orionmouldings.com/apps/webstore/products/show/1338748) .
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2010, 09:17:22 PM »

Edward.
Thankyou for those kind words ... Yes it was the cutter hull ... "but "I didn't cut the hull down as I wanted the extra freeboard... I've got some rather poor pictures of the build (I can't take photos for toffee) and am going to try to doctor them up a bit and I also have diagrams of the rigging that I'll post in the next few days ... So as they say watch this space  ...That cutter hull is a nice layup and can be used for quite a few different vessels  :-))
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2010, 10:55:38 PM »

A few more pictures Showing the hatch & deck and the lead keel ... sorry the pix aren't all that good I'll never make a living taking pictures







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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2010, 10:20:29 PM »

These photos were taken at the lake side this morning ( Many Thanks to Juley and her Magic camera)
   The chain plates & the rudder banding are made of tie wraps --- this is an experiment and from the comments it seems to work
   The anchors are hammered out of flashing lead (rolled and then hammered square (This to my eyes gives a rough used look)
   As usual my sail control arm's are on deck they will shortly be disguised under a 9 pounder gun (Set on a circle) and a Long boat
   This is the first opportunity to have her under full sail (its been too windy)  But two extra bits of lead have been added to the keel
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This should be enough for the moment  I'll post some rigging diagrams  shortly of the 3 types of Lug rig ( Ie: Standing,,,Dipping,,,, & Balanced Rigs and the different ways of rigging them....
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2010, 12:24:08 PM »

Rigging Diagrams for Standing ,Balanced & Dipping Lug Rigs






I Hope these are some help for anyone building and rigging a lugger the rig is deceptive simple as there are no stays or shrouds and only a single sheet and halyard for each sail ...I have been using a double halyard (Port & Stb'd) to give the masts added support "some larger luggers did use double ones" also the rig lends it's self to tweeking

I Find this model is surprising close winded and very fast and sea kindly
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Re: 18 Century Lugger added to the Freebooter Fleet
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2010, 12:31:13 PM »

Great work there Jimmy,. thanks for sharing with us....   :-))
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2010, 05:04:04 PM »

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  Aye!!! I bought the hull from "Orion moldings"at Whipsteed on the Saturday at the moment I'm working on the guns

 She's just such a fun vessel to to build and sail ,every thing to just fall into position with a min. of work!!!!
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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2010, 03:37:21 PM »

Did you get any plans with the hull (the Orion website suggests they're supplied with it), if so what are they like?
I'm planning on building a naval brig or cutter (square rigged) for my next scale sail build - as I'm no good at scratchbuilding hulls, the Orion cutter hull looks like a good starting point. A decent set of plans would be a useful bonus!
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« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2010, 04:40:29 PM »

Ed
 it's like this --- The Plans are provided  They are a bit basic ---BUT----  I could easily build a sailing model of an Armed Naval Cutter with the plans provided ... and this Hull
All the main info is there and she's rigged with square topsails
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« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2010, 03:07:55 AM »

Is the extra deep part of the keel amidships something you added, or is it part of the hull molding?

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« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2010, 09:16:53 PM »

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 No old chap it's not part of the molding ... I like my ballast low and midships (sailing vessels sail better and there is less strain on the hull if you keep the ends light ) And I don't like internal ballast except for trimming  The ballast keel is made up of 7 pieces of flashing lead permanently bolted on to the keel and faired in with P 38 car repair filler.
 It makes the hull a bit unsightly out of the water   but she sails extremely well and you can't see it in the water
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« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2010, 08:41:19 AM »

Love the new lugger jimmy, a unusual rig, and seems to sail real well! A worthy addition to your fleet
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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2010, 06:07:36 PM »

Many thanks to Martin for taking these photos at Dean's Marine Show







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« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2010, 06:24:08 PM »





Phillip ...Yes she's a nice little vessel to handle ...and can easily be sailed in wind's up to 16 to 18 knots when shortend down
 The lug rig is a traditional rig and was used on some Large British and Scottish fishing vessels until after the 2nd World War... It is a very powerful rig and many of the vessels were noted for their speed
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« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2010, 01:22:35 PM »

Cracking model!

Do you know if anyone has managed to model an r/c dipping lug?
I guess you'd need at least one extra servo to bring the tack around the mast and possibly a downhaul or something at the 'throat' end of the yard? Maybe even halyard control too?

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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2010, 01:41:48 AM »

Some years ago I designed and  tried a out a systime but it was clumsy and took 6 servos-- 1) for the halyard-- 2) to tip  the yard around the mast-- 3) to haul the tack around the mast --4) for the sheet ---5) for the mizzen (a standing lug) and the Jib 6) the Rudder---It looked like a spider's web around the main mast -but-when it worked she sailed well ...but half the time the gear got fouled or broken and in the end I gave it up as a bad job
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« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2010, 06:51:45 PM »

Looking really nice now Jim, She's got the 'air' of the real thing about her. Back now to le crew and then onto the 'Flying Wombat!

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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2010, 10:11:50 PM »

Tony,
Are you planing to put a periscope in that thing
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