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One way manned mission to Mars.
« on: October 29, 2010, 06:16:23 pm »

Thought provoking and obviously cheaper because its only a one way trip.

But how ethical would it be? Who or what type of person would volunteer for such a one way mission?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/8091965/Nasa-unveils-bold-plans-to-send-humans-one-way-to-Mars-to-colonise-planet.html

Space agency officials confirmed feasability studies were under way to asses whether astronauts could be permanently sent to the red planet, or its moons, to establish human colonies.
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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2010, 06:26:57 pm »

Send bankers.  Lots and lots of bankers.  Stretch the truth a bit and tell them of the vast bonuses when they get back.
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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2010, 06:31:19 pm »

The plans that I've seen discussed are not, strictly, "one way". They're more akin to "go, once we have methods to regularly supply you, and we'll develop the infrastructure needed to bring you back at some point in the future".

That's not , perhaps, any worse morally/psychologically than the original Tudor shipping to the States. Thousands went there with little belief that they'd ever return.

...And a part of me wonders whether dying of old age on Earth is any better than the same thing happening on Mars?

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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2010, 06:33:43 pm »

You'd've thought they may be more interested in the economic and environmental condition of the planet we live on first! Mind, by 2030 everything will be perfect I'm sure...

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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2010, 06:47:58 pm »

The plans that I've seen discussed are not, strictly, "one way". They're more akin to "go, once we have methods to regularly supply you, and we'll develop the infrastructure needed to bring you back at some point in the future".

That's not , perhaps, any worse morally/psychologically than the original Tudor shipping to the States. Thousands went there with little belief that they'd ever return.

...And a part of me wonders whether dying of old age on Earth is any better than the same thing happening on Mars?

Andy

Not in this article it isnt. Yes, they'd send replenishment but there's clearly no plan to bring anyone back.

You are correct there have been suggested missions to do as you suggest. This one isnt one of those. Its one way.
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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2010, 07:29:16 pm »

Martin I think you need to ask for some of that grant because I feel that quite a few members on this Forum could discuss all the probabilities and technicalities of such a mission and in a few years time when all the research money has gone, will  come to the same conclusion as the most eminent scientists... :}
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2010, 07:35:53 pm »

Just put Wayne Rooney on board and nobody would care if the mission was a success or not, he'd just be out of the way. Not been too lucky with Mars though have we?? Dave.
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2010, 07:55:18 pm »

I think a one way trip would go well, being on Mars every day helps you work rest and play!
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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2010, 08:27:58 pm »

One question that's worth asking- if somebody was willing to go to Mars alone it's a fair bet they're not the kind of person you'd go for a quick half with, would you then want to go and start a colony with said person after sitting for a couple of years in a spaceship? Bet they would be even more likeable!
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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2010, 08:43:44 pm »

One question that's worth asking- if somebody was willing to go to Mars alone it's a fair bet they're not the kind of person you'd go for a quick half with, would you then want to go and start a colony with said person after sitting for a couple of years in a spaceship? Bet they would be even more likeable!

I dont think the intention is to send someone on their jack as it were. Even if they liked being on their own they'd probably end up going crazy due to the isolation.

There would be a minimum crew of 4 or more I think.
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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2010, 09:19:55 pm »

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There would be a minimum crew of 4 or more I think.

So, Dodgy Geezer, Justboatonic and who else.....?  %)

Oh, I forgot, Wasyl!  :-))
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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2010, 10:33:01 pm »


So, Dodgy Geezer, Justboatonic and who else.....?  %)


It's one thing emigrating (or being transported) to another continent and having to carve your own livelihood out of the soil...and quite another thing being completely dependent on a government-funded supply ship for the spare parts for your oxygen-making equipment. In passing I should note that this seems to be a recycling of James McLane's 2006 proposal - http://www.thespacereview.com/article/669/1 refers...

This seems so obviously an press tidbit idea floated by NASA Ames research centre to attract funding that I am disinclined to give it any further thought. But those of you with a literary turn of mind might recall C S Lewis's short story 'Ministering Angels' (The Magazine of Fantasy and Science-Fiction, January 1958), which deals with the impact on a long-term Mars expedition when the civil servants responsible for their supply decide that what the all-male astronaut team requires is access to 'ladies of easy virtue'...
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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2010, 11:08:19 pm »

We had the same problem at Botany Bay in 1788
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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2010, 12:15:48 am »

It worked ok2
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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2010, 05:47:27 am »

So, Dodgy Geezer, Justboatonic and who else.....?  %)

Oh, I forgot, Wasyl!  :-))
Its comforting to know,that someone is thinking of him,I,m sure he,ll be happy when I next visit him,  {-)

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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2010, 11:55:26 am »

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There would be a minimum crew of 4 or more I think.
Doc, Lemmy, Mitch and Jet.  And just to scare everybody, Whitaker ("Orders must be obeyed without question at all times". As snazzy a catch phrase as was ever penned).
And, of course, the bankers and Wayne Rooney.  Bankers for biomass on Mars and to improve Earth, Rooney because, well, just because.

I hereby claim the absolute right to refuse to take the subject seriously.
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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2010, 12:13:17 pm »

can we get Posh Spice included as well ?
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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2010, 12:20:29 pm »

can we get Posh Spice included as well ?
OK, but what are they going to do for entertainment?
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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2010, 05:11:20 pm »

OK, but what are they going to do for entertainment?
Satellite TV   %% %% %%


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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2010, 05:43:25 pm »

If I was on that trip I'd might even get a model or 2 built by the time we arrived at Mars.  :}
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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2010, 07:30:52 pm »

So, Dodgy Geezer, Justboatonic and who else.....?  %)

Oh, I forgot, Wasyl!  :-))

You Colin and Malcolm!  :-)) Sorted.
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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2010, 07:37:22 pm »

No way, I have no imminent celestial ambitions - just thought that you and DG would benefit from being nearer to the action for your 'Is Anyone Out There?' topic and of course Wullie is spaced out anyway....

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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2010, 07:55:24 pm »


Can't see any boating lakes advertised in the Visit Mars brochure
Methinks I'll stay here

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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2010, 10:57:44 pm »

No way, I have no imminent celestial ambitions - just thought that you and DG would benefit from being nearer to the action for your 'Is Anyone Out There?' topic and of course Wullie is spaced out anyway....

Colin
Spaced out????...I think you,re confusing me,with that other member, from "Tales of Woe" who likes weed,...its weeds i,ve got,....common old garden Weeds,...willow herb, %%..pee the beds,etc, {-)

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Re: One way manned mission to Mars.
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2010, 11:03:23 pm »

No way, I have no imminent celestial ambitions - just thought that you and DG would benefit from being nearer to the action for your 'Is Anyone Out There?' topic and of course Wullie is spaced out anyway....

Colin

But we'd need a ref, Colin!
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